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Welcome![edit source]


Hi there, TheLastWordSword, and welcome to the RuneScape Wiki!

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Again, welcome!  Tien  21:47, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Personal Image[edit source]

InformationHello. An image or video that you have uploaded appears to be personal. Personal files should not be hosted on the RuneScape Wiki (see RS:NOT#HOST). If you want to add a picture or video of your RuneScape character, or any other media that doesn't fit in an article, you may upload it on an image hosting site, such as Photobucket or ImageShack. You can then insert it into your userpage simply by copying and pasting the URL where you want to insert it. Also, if you do not wish to use one of the afformentioned sites, you may also upload them on the Photo Share Wiki. Since it is also a wiki, any images it has will also work on this wiki if used correctly. If you have uploaded a picture of your avatar, you can instead directly link to your avatar picture by pasting character name/full.gif for full avatar and character name/chat.gif for chathead. If you need more details feel free to ask any question you have on my talk page. Iiii I I I 22:31, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

I hate to tell you, but that's not just a set of personal images, that's a CONTRIBUTION, OF WHICH I AM RIGHTLY PROUD. I will upload them again, and you will keep your unwashed newb hands off of them until you have read the talk page for the Orb of Oculus!

Ok, that -was- rude, but...[edit source]

I ended up uploading only two images for the discussion page on the Orb of Oculus. Other users with dodgy, unmemorable names keep editing my user page, without discussion or notice. I would like that to stop please.

On a lighter note, I've noticed that there is no Userbox template for total number of questpoints, and would like to know if I should create one myself, or if someone else would prefer their own version. Thanks!

Images preferred in .png[edit source]

Note to myself on capturing images in .png format.

Recapturing the images isn't that hard, but may take awhile in-game. Can I convert the files I alredy have in MSPaint (yes, I think...) and will the image quality suffer (dunno...hope not, saves me a lot of Fishing work!) (unfortunately, answer is obviously yes, and more work)
In Summary:
1) Capture original images in .PNG
2) Crop and process images BEFORE uploading them to RSWikia
3) Mark files for Speedy Deletion {{D|Reason}} (hopefully as few as possible from now)

Uploaded the PNG[edit source]

I succeeded in uploading the png files, but just barely. It was a real pain, and I had to spam-click it into submission, not the best methodology, I know, but it worked. 8-) Would someone else like the hellacious job of deleting the old files? "Take my old files...PL0X!" No such luck, huh? Ok, it'll happen eventually, but I'll have to stomp on buggienesses to get it done. Thanks.

Check out the images of the Shilo underground mine "Karamja Hard #" (#s 1-8) for the images (in .png!!!) for discussion, debate, etc. Where does that discussion take place, for the files themselves or the destination pages??? 0_o

Your "hidden area" images[edit source]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the image you uploaded is not a hidden place. It's in the same area where you fight the Jungle Demon in Monkey Madness. As such, I have deleted them. If you wish to keep the image on your userpage for any reason, please upload it with either or, not here, since we are not an image-hosting site. Thanks.  Tien  16:15, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Tons of places are like that, but we don't have images of them taken with the orb because they already exist (and thus they are unnecessary, since we already have images of them). The picture of the Jungle Demon area is already on the Monkey Madness article, with the wooden platform and the gorilla statue. The one you uploaded was essentially a duplicate of that image but with things missing from it. That's why it was deleted, along with the fact that it was not used in the mainspace and also the fact that you used it on your userpage. Images for your userpage should not be uploaded here, but on either of the two sites I mentioned above.
I'm not sure what you mean by the "value" of these images for players who have completed the quest. If you intend to keep these images for yourself so you can remember the quest, then simply upload it on Photobucket or Imageshack, and there you go.
In addition, if you want to mention the fact that you can see the Jungle Demon place from Ape Atoll Dungeon, you could make a trivia section in the article and add it there. I'm not trying to cause you strife or anything; it's how the wiki works.  Tien  16:33, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
I have a feeling you haven't read what I've said. Feel free to keep the images you took for personal use, but just upload them on or instead of on the wiki. Surely you still have them saved in your computer? If you intend to use the images somewhere in the mainspace, I'll undelete them for you since mainspace images can be uploaded here. The reason I deleted them in the first place was because they were unused in the mainspace but were on your userpage (thus making it a personal image).  Tien  17:30, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
          • Clarification of the above: Everyone else got to upload their images of "hidden places", even as I was being denied the same level of participation, because I PHYSICALLY & "COMPUTAIONALLY" COULD NOT put my images on Photobucket at the time, and it wasn't until MONTHS LATER that I found Portable Apps and a Mozilla Firefox browser that runs off a stick. I wanted to be in the middle of this process while it was still ongoing. There is no glory in running up and down the field after the game is OVER. That was the whole purpose of my Catch-22 rubber-hose beat-down described above. If that is NOT the case, why wouldn't a REASONABLE person make an exception for an urgent and otherwise unavoidable exception to a red-tape pendantist's rule, especially in light of RS:AEAE? Taken together with Psycho's BLATANT violation of RS:AEAE, this is starting to look like a "hidden" pattern, no? *****

RE: I'm almost ready to give up...[edit source]

I am too, actually. It seems like you haven't read any of my paragraphs above. Here is the key point you seem to have ignored:

  • You can still upload images for your userpage if you want to. If you want to upload that Jungle Demon place again, do so on or, not here, since are not an image-hosting site. Just make an account on either site, upload the image, and copy and paste the Direct link on your userpage.

Also, no one is stopping you from uploading images on the wiki. Just make sure you're going to put it on the mainspace somewhere, or it will be deleted. This goes for all images. If it's not on an article, then someone will delete it. In addition, make sure that it isn't a duplicate, or someone will most likely delete it too.
Just trying to help.  Tien  19:53, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

When linking to images on other wikis, you need to keep going until you're past the page with the file history/file links on it. For example, if you want to link to [[w:c:sharephoto:File:Banana crate.PNG|File:Banana crate.PNG]], you need to click on the image again until you get this link:
Hope this isn't too confusing. O_o --Iiii I I I 21:03, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Your Userpage Code[edit source]

Nothing on the wiki is owned by anyone, that goes with mainspace, files, templates, etc. Do you mean that you couldn't get Template:Goal to work?? Sorry, but I really can't be of any help since I don't really know much about templates and such. User:Azliq7 is probably the biggest brain on templates and coding and such and you should ask her if you still need help. Unicorn horn dust.png Evil Yanks talk 23:48, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Upload under Original[edit source]

Re-upload your Music interface picture under the original on the playlist page. This is to prevent the loss of previous versions of that file that others have uploaded. This is for posterity and for consideration. Before uploading an image, check to see if there is an older version of said image. Ryan PM 17:36, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Cropping[edit source]

Sometimes it happens, nothing you can do but re-upload it. =) Karlis (talk) (contribs) 19:54, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Split Notice[edit source]

You might be interested in the templates page which has just about every template that you will need to use. Also, why is your child hunting me. I must have missed something Lol Unicorn horn dust.png Evil Yanks talk 06:59, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, how did I forget about that. lol =D In case you are wondering I am not specifically targeting you, it automatically changes what it uses to the user who is currently viewing it. I might see if I can make it randomise what phrase it says! Unicorn horn dust.png Evil Yanks talk 04:58, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Brimhaven Dungeon[edit source]

Technically, if you're referring to a single player, you should use "he/she" rather than "they." What you're talking about is a "he-she." Lol  Tien  00:50, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

A slash usually indicates "or." Anyway, seems like you're a fellow grammar fiend... you may want to offer your opinion on this Yew Grove thread.  Tien  01:00, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Summoning Familiars[edit source]

Hey man, great works on the HD closeup images of summoning familiars! They're great =D Mr Moo Cow99 23:44, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

Also, on your picture Obsidian Golem, someone said it was taken from game guide? Please have a look at that before I make it trans... Mr Moo Cow99 23:48, February 16, 2010 (UTC)
Seems like this is fixed =P Mr Moo Cow99 00:29, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, it's me again =P I wasn't on wiki for a while, but now I'm back! About preping shots for transparency. To make it easier, you can take the shots at a place with a non-changing background. Like for example, in the desert or in a POH. Personally, anything's ok with me when it comes for shots that I need to make transparent. Mr Moo Cow99 03:42, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Re:New Ket-Zek[edit source]

I've added the original filename back to the Ket-Zek article, which shows your version of the Ket-Zek =D (although Damnads applied transparency to it. He actually did it as I was placing the image XD). So, now everything should be fine Smile. It wasn't a bother, if you need anything else just ask ^_^! Quest point cape.pngLil Diriz 77 Talk Summoning-icon.png 22:06, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Userpage[edit source]

Threatening an admin of blanking their userpage is never a good thing.. Especially if they were just doing normal things. scoot4.pngscooties 19:54, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Exceptions point 2 Smile Chicken7 >talk 23:14, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

I felt that it was overkill to create a sub page for something which fits perfectly on the main page. I kind of go into more detail at RuneScape:Requests for undeletion/Hidden locations. Unicorn horn dust.png Evil Yanks talk 01:43, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Odd[edit source]

What's so odd about February 19? --Iiii I I I 22:21, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Staff of light.[edit source]

I reverted the image simply for the fact that the 'orb' for the loan really wasn't needed and we already had an image with all the requirements on the page. I didn't feel that the loaned item symbol added to the image in anyway. If you have any concerns, please by all means revert it back or contact and administrator. --Ring of kinship detail.png CaistlynTalk Contribs 22:00, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

hidden faces[edit source]

That's a great imagination, but that's all it is. Like looking at clouds, or people seeing Obamas face in the smoke cloud of the burning twin towers.--Degenret01 08:23, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

          • Tytan H., a staffer at Jagex, is known by some for his vague allusions to certain unsavory ideologies. This in fact, is one of the reasons Mero left, as he had inadvertantly exposed a very young player to an analysis of a coded message found in Dorgesh-kaan. I think I would have left too. Who needs that kind of crap, much less having to be a leader under those conditions? *****

Re:Re:Riot[edit source]

Riot, because of the new constitution and hitting too high.

Easter pic[edit source]

If inserting a picture into an article, please make sure to size and place it correctly. If you need help, please let me know ‎20px‎AtlandyBeer.png 16:07, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Picture that take up 1/4 of an article should probably be re-sized. It was re-sized and moved. Please stop re-inserting the large size. ‎20px‎AtlandyBeer.png 16:19, March 29, 2010 (UTC)
Interesting that you took our talk to the article to point it out to everyone. My point is that I am not against your image. I also agree that we need a picture of the event. For you to just insert a large picture in the beginning of the article haphazardly looks poor. If you would like to continue this discussion, please do so on my talk page. I will be happy to correct the picture to look more streamlined in the article. Thanks ‎20px‎AtlandyBeer.png 16:48, March 29, 2010 (UTC)
          • In Atlandy's defense (not defence, this is my talkpage) the image was huuuuuuggggee. However, as it showed the entire room, you had to have a certain size to see what the heck was in the room, instead of a smaller pic with a bunch of one-pixel objects. Yes, you *can* click to enlarge, and yes, sometimes big images make a page slower to load. But the traffic to this site has fallen off a cliff due to a dangerous lack of 1337, and the resulting HORRENDOUSLY HHHHHUUUUUGGGGGEEEEE, OBNOXIOUS, LOUD!!!!!!!, AND SILLY "VIAGRA FOR SIX-YEAR-OLDS" ads make the pages load *infinitely* slower than any large pic, and send people away running and screaming. You can see how a positive-feedback loop results from this, right? I originally objected on aesthetic grounds, but my inarticulate artistic impulses were basically spot-on; epic pics and content create traffic and more importantly, CONTRIBUTORS (as opposed to plagiarizing some other fansite). Such contributors, when they bother to show up here, (and "vandalize" the Hunter Gear pages with *ENTIRELY ACCURATE DATA* ((**GASP!!!**)) ) are thinking something like what I say here:

Event Illustration Atlandy, you have no event pic whatsoever. You need to let those who can, do, because you can't'. --Sw0rd1801 16:32, March 29, 2010 (UTC) If you want to be the Alpha Dog, you better **** bigger turds, purse-poodles. I produce. You don't. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TheLastWordSword (talk • contribs) on 16:38, March 29, 2010 (UTC).

Which is, indeed, not my prettiest moment, but all too true. Of other contributors of even more EPIC material, it would be even MORE true. If we actually had any of those. Which we mostly don't.

And don't even get me started on the conversations that "conveniently" disappear from discussion pages...*****

Re:Gif Ent pouch[edit source]

No, the way you say it is the only way to do it. On the few occasions I have done that I open each page I will need to change in a new tab to be sure I don't miss any. And don't worry about "Don't edit user pages", this is one of the exceptions. Or if you are worried about it, let them fix it when they see the red link/no picture on their page.--Degenret01 00:30, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Spam Yew Grove threads[edit source]

Please do not make any more inappropriate YG threads.--Degenret01 15:11, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

I didn't see any wrong changes to your user page from admins. Have you thoroughly read all our policies? Its quite a jumble, I know, I've been blocked before (long ago now). If an admin takes an action you disagree with ask for full clarification on the whys. We need to be able to justify our actions.--Degenret01 15:46, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Highscores Box[edit source]

Hi, if you're using the {{Hiscore autoupdate}} template, you just need to change the player name in the template. I found one at User:TheLastWordSword that looks like this currently:

{{Hiscore autoupdate
| player	= Fragarach1
| page		= User:TheLastWordSword/Hiscore Data‎
| interval	= 1
}}<br /><br /><br /><br />

Once the player name is fixed the data should start updating again. --Quarenon  Talk 15:25, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Quality images[edit source]

I saw your screenshots page, and your images are pretty good! Maybe you'd want to join Project Myface, as you'll have your own subpage then, and more visitors. You do have to keep the page a bit refreshed, as you have some images([[:File:Juna1.png]], [[:File:New spider.PNG]] and File:Tz-Kih.png for example) I hope to see ya. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 03:11, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Admins Amok[edit source]

Thank you for your comment. The D.A.Project isn't the end of projects focused on admins, their behavior, and their interaction with the community. However, I do hope for it to be a stepping stone, a journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step, as they say.--

Helm of neitiznot (charged).png Azaz129 Crystal shield.png Talk Edits Contribs

04:57, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Ice Titan[edit source]

ORLY? Did you think it was good? I had a fair bit of trouble at the semi-transparent part lol. I'm happy you liked it though :). Quest point cape detail.png Brux Talk 21:09, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

OoO[edit source]

Sure go for it. It don't matter none to me. I've never even read that page actually. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 19:56, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Dialogue[edit source]

All dialogue pages and sections were deleted because it violated UK copyright laws. The discussion is here, if you're curious. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 19:57, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

          • I was never really clear on this until I reread it just now. I ended up contributing to these dialogues as people WENT AHEAD AND MADE THEM ANYWAY! OMG! But I have to admit, I do kind of miss them, especially the ones for Familiars. Gave me something to look forward to when I finally got the levels. {SHRUG}*****

Re:Request[edit source]

Sadly, I am no scripting wizard, or even in the least knowledgeable about them at all. Sorry. But perhaps the AutoWikiBrowser could be of use depending on what you are looking to do exactly. Even for that I know only its' name, not how to use it. If you go that route be aware that if you choose to edit at over 5 edits per minute, it needs to be on a separate account. Check here RuneScape:AutoWikiBrowser/Requests for details. I know that User:The_last_username_left does some scripting/coding stuff of various sorts, he may be able assist you better. Good luck.--Degenret01 22:19, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

Re:SaraBot seems pretty cool[edit source]

SaraBot is my AWB account. Not a bot. Sorry for the inconvenience. SaradominSign Me! 15:32, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

Np! I would recommend trying out AWB before you go off and make a account for it. :3 SaradominSign Me! 15:53, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Familiar Screenshots[edit source]

Thank you very much Smile Your images are really good as well. Never fret, I only plan to get 70 Summon sometime in the future when I feel like it and when I have enough charms for it Lol (I need that Bunyip >:O) LordDarkPhantom 20:03, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Lol I tried going there and using protection prayers and chivalry but it drains too fast D: LordDarkPhantom 20:17, October 14, 2010 (UTC)
65 LordDarkPhantom 20:24, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Ice Titan[edit source]

Thanks. I just do whatever is needed to be improved on the Wiki. Personally I don't really like my image as well...Recent uploads SpineTalkGuest book 20:49, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

----[edit source]

What is it with you and not transparent ;/ --Farming cape (t).png Ikin Talk 13:29, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

Spirit Coraxatrice[edit source]

Hi, when an image doesn't update like that, its not because of anything you did, and its not something that you can fix. Just wait and it'll fix itself after a while. The problem, in case you're curious, is with wikia's image servers. You can't fix it no matter what! So we must just wait... *waits* kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 19:05, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

So you know[edit source]

When making subpages of any page, MAKE SURE THE CAPITALS ARE THE SAME. If you don't it makes a completely different page. Matt (t) 20:44, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Sandboxes[edit source]

I'll just field the questions you asked Degen. No to both. Sandboxes can be completely empty if you'd like, and you can have as many as you want to. C.ChiamTalk 13:59, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

Transparent? I could elaborate more but that's really all there is to it. You can check the Recent Changes to see if any admins are online (since they will generally be able to answer any queries) or you can leave a note at RuneScape:User help. C.ChiamTalk 14:17, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
          • This "transparency" was in reference to PsychoRobot's rather unhelpful information that I was not allowed to create my own private sandbox. (As per above, the blatant violation of RS:AEAE. Sinister, or just Psycho?) I was too new to know any better, and as for Psycho's reason for telling me so, his name seems to solve the mystery adequately. After all, it's not like editors are competing with each other, and therefore, there is no need for a "competitive advantage", right???*****

Re:Wikibugs[edit source]

Nope, all's well over here. Are you using Monobook or the (shudder) new Wikia skin? Real Nub 21:01, November 13, 2010 (UTC)

Eh, it's probably Wikia's fault. Blame them, they're the hosts...Real Nub 21:13, November 13, 2010 (UTC)

Virus Damage to my Flash Drive[edit source]

Get an antivirus program (like AVG Free or ClamWin), scan both the computer and the flash drive. Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 17:01, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

I do not see how a virus could come from here, files are scanned upon upload. Do you have a decent firewall?--Degenret01 05:43, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
          • Turns out it was more than likely Jagex's Highscores page. This is why they constantly warn you about your antivirus. They have only three Mel-class programmers over there, on a steady diet of meth. Everyone else uses Runescript. That's what I'm willing to wager "muh hat" on anyway. *****

RE:Oh! You're here, instead of playing? What a surprise![edit source]

Hey, the version you uploaded might be slightly bigger, but the lack on anti-aliasing and transparency makes it slightly less appealing. Suppa chuppa Talk 15:13, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Er, so what're you suggesting? Suppa chuppa Talk 23:43, April 25, 2011 (UTC)
If you think that you have images superior to those that we currently have, then by all means go ahead and upload them. Suppa chuppa Talk 22:26, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Enema Ends[edit source]

(Set your user preferences to "ads on" for a week. How often do you run and then flinch at coming back?)

A Wiki is supposed to be open to anyone, and having rules that help form a Community from a bunch of individual "anyones" is the Business Model of each Wiki, and the Wikia system as a whole. A Wikia is NOT supposed to be an impenetrable fortress of "Manson Family" regulars who defend their place in the spotlight against all comers. This is a social place. Stop being so anti-social. OR I'LL MAKE YOU PAY FOR AND EAT LOTS OF VIAGRAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

lol. -- PIKWIT 13:58, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

you are a very humorous person. i like you. --Iiii I I I 00:25, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

RE:Help would be greatly appreciated.[edit source]

Well, we've been going through lately and tagging all non-AA images to be replaced. So even if we did keep yours, it'd just be replaced sometime in the near future. I'm not saying my version of the image is great, but it does have AA so it's nice and smooth. I take it you can't run AA on a shared computer? Even so, your image is half a pixel bigger than the former, has no transparency and no AA so... It has a lot going against it. An ideal uploaded image would be taken with an Orb of Oculus, have all graphic settings at the max except for Lighting Details, fullscreen with the object as big as can be, and have transparency. That would certainly make "everyone" happy. (; sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 23:36, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Btw, since you seem to insist on reuploading your image over and over, we have to talk it out to determine which should stay for now. Otherwise it's just revert warring. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 23:38, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

RE:Elite Membership has its privileges.[edit source]

Morning (: Yeah I saw you discussing it a few days ago. *Looks at picture more closely* It looks like a mold for a gigantic ring or.. collar. Nice find on the hinges and handle. I wonder what's inside.. Also I wonder what strange creature will be wearing a collar. <.< sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 16:20, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

The Cramulet isn't shaped like that. ): It has a rectangular pendant, though I suppose that could go in the hole. Bob or Neite could make since, since they're involved with the dragonkin. Not sure about a catspeak amulet. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 16:31, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Nice Work![edit source]

Thanks, bro! :D LordDarkPhantom 18:38, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Screenshots[edit source]

I just visited this page, and you seem to complain about how your images are constantly replaced, and I'm assuming that you know the reason, but I'll say it anyways - a majority of your images do not contain 4x Anti-aliasing, which is not applied to most of your images, such as this particular one. If you wish to improve your images, I suggest you apply 4x AA to your images as it makes the image smoother. Best wishes, Spine :) Recent uploads SpineTalkGuest book 14:53, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

I'm just saying that image standards have risen since the OOO's been invented, 4x AA, a lot of images standards have changed since I registered. Best of luck. Recent uploads SpineTalkGuest book 18:59, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Image reverting[edit source]

Information icon.svg Please stop reverting to lower quality images, as you did here. Continued revert wars may lead to you being blocked from editing and uploading for a period of time. Thanks, Suppa chuppa Talk 00:04, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

LOL. Have fun over there. You obviously don't understand that lower quality information and images are replaced with higher quality ones. It doesn't matter who uploads something or writes it. Have fun with your blog or whatever. Suppa chuppa Talk 00:16, September 16, 2011 (UTC)
Let us know when Sal's isn't 3 years out of date, thanks Lol ʞooɔ 00:21, September 16, 2011 (UTC)
Sure. Suppa chuppa Talk 00:24, September 16, 2011 (UTC)
I don't take a site seriously if it doesn't have a Dungeoneering guide after a year and a half. ʞooɔ 00:27, September 16, 2011 (UTC)
I guess we have slightly different definitions of the word "open". ʞooɔ 00:34, September 16, 2011 (UTC)
My main insight about Sal's Realm is that they will not be able to pick themselves up off the floor just because they're a platinum site and supported by Jagex. They don't have the manpower or the community needed to build a good fansite. 70% of their images were taken before the HD update three years ago, they're missing gobs of quest guides, and almost everything is circa 2008. They may have a "nice" community, but frankly their site is no longer relevant. They will need to take greater measures than a reskin (which is really all that the redesign was; the content stayed mostly the same). I would encourage them to go open-source like the wiki, because they don't have enough editors to stay current.
On a slightly different note, the wiki would be platinum-supported if not for Jagex's rule about gaming advertisements--that's not my words, that's Jagex's. Wikia is for-profit, and it's absurd to expect them to stop showing game ads on a popular gaming website. The whole fansite program is a transparent ruse to make sure that RuneScape players aren't exposed to other games, thus keeping them on RuneScape and making more money for the company. It's kind of sad, really. ʞooɔ 00:40, September 16, 2011 (UTC)
I have to be honest and tell you that I don't understand what you're saying. I don't think we beat on people who contribute--while our warning/rules templates could probably use a more human factor, I don't see where we beat on people for trying to help. Your examples are foreign to me, and I would appreciate it if you explained what you meant about "Ref. weighing hunter gear to unlock pages" et al.
I'm also a little bit bewildered with what you mean about Merovingian. He's made two edits in the last six years, and I can hardly say that what he left us with was glorious. Your second paragraph completely baffles me. What "new guy jitters"? Also, did you know Merovingian personally? I don't quite understand because you registered in February of last year and he's made one edit in that timespan. I wish I could give you a better response but I don't get what you're saying. ʞooɔ 23:08, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

There are only two entities involved in the ads problem: Jagex and Wikia Inc. The RuneScape Wiki is stuck in the middle in a profiteering game that they're both playing. Wikia is not willing to take an estimated $200k-a-year hit by displaying Domino's and Clorox ads instead of Starcraft ones. We have no say over the ads besides the blatantly inappropriate ones about botting and goldselling, and no amount of community clout is going to change that.

On a different note, we are making progress in building a better community. When you think about it, every other major fansite has a successful forum; we don't, mostly because Wikia has lacked the motivation to do anything about them. The other fansites would have no community to speak of without forums, and it's rather remarkable that we've managed to do what we have without something like that. ʞooɔ 23:22, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not seeing that in the history of the pages I'm looking at, or the protection log. Could you give me specifics? We all have a tendency to view earlier times as golden, even when sometimes they weren't. Back then, we didn't have anything near the popularity that we do now, we didn't have the speed at which we get new updates, we didn't have anything near this depth of information that we have now, and we had even less of a community back then. Things were not glorious back then any more than they are now. ʞooɔ 23:34, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

I think that the page history has been admin-ed to death (on many pages), but I could be wrong on that point, and as for the protection log, I'm not even sure what that is. (Wikia stuff is a mystery to outsiders, and even Wikipedia isn't doing enough to make it transparent to new people, so that's a Wikia thing as much as anything else.) "Golden age" myth? Maybe some, but my memories of the items in question are too specific for that to hold much weight. :D For specifics, I think what I already gave you is the best that I've got to offer. Check the plant disease talk page for my comment there, as it has a bearing to this discussion. Maybe my lurking days were the peak, and the Wiki declined before Mero left, but that's not the way I remember it. -- PIKWIT 23:54, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

I think it's unlikely that the revisions of the page were deleted, and I need to see actual evidence of it to believe it. Mero was only around for what, 8 months in 2005? His last content edit was in July, about 4 months after he founded the wiki. I hate to break it to you, but the wiki sucked back then. It didn't have 500 pages until he was gone. When did you start lurking?
Anyway, I haven't heard any specifics of what's wrong with the wiki now. As far as I'm concerned, the wiki is in pretty good straits right now, especially compared to other fansites. ʞooɔ 00:04, September 17, 2011 (UTC)
Looking at things a little more closely, it appears that there were 81 pages on this wiki when Merovingian left. There were 6 images and what appears to be two users. Were you ever actually here when Merovingian edited? ʞooɔ 00:17, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think that I'm going to be able to convince you, and that we have radically different views of the Wiki. (It's as if we were looking at 2 different websites, isn't it? Lol.) So let me leave you with my main points, and I'll try to continue with this converstion later.

The Battle-plan: 1. Include "High end game functionality" [disease talk page], trivia as pages [Banana crate], and teach new contributors who are busy making levels how to do stuff without beating them over the head about coding/procedural errors. 2. Let people "dump-and-pump". If an image isn't "Wiki-fied", put it into good shape and be glad you have someone's eyeballs and effort. I've done the math on this on one of my pages: a half-hour a week times 2Million CH00Bs is 25,000 man-years of work, more page views, fewer cheesy ads, better relation to RSpop, blah blah blah. 3. If you get more community, etc, then you can ask Jagex THE CORPORATION to lean on the MediaWikiaMedia recto-cranial-crats to jam a filter into this mess. 4. My comp here is [email protected]#$ and I'm losing my temper, so I'll try again tomorrow. Thanks. -- PIKWIT 00:45, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

I continue to be bewildered by what you're saying. We include lots of complicated game information, whether it's algorithms, lores, or interesting trivia. We do all these things, and you're just not looking for them. We don't beat people over the head for small things. We really only leave messages for vandalism, and even then not very often.
I don't understand your...idioms. Dump and pump? The simple truth is that we are not going to get 2 million people editing the wiki. It's utterly ridiculous to expect to get even 1% of that number. There's nothing we or anyone else can do to improve that, because most people just aren't interested in fansites or wikis.
We already report the inappropriate ads. Those are not the problem here. The problem is the gaming advertisements. No amount of community will get "recto-cranial crats" to take a multi-hundred-thousand dollar hit. It's a pipe dream.
I really can't tell what you're trying to say, and your explanation raised more questions that it answered. You seem to think we have a poor community, which seems to mostly be because you kept reverting an image you made and got warned for it. You also seem to hero-worship someone who left here 6 years ago, and appear to think that those first four months (when we had less than a hundred pages and no community to speak of) were the best of days. What is going on here? ʞooɔ 01:58, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Cook, on which of these 100 or so pages did I see the banana crate on Ape Atoll, the one I'm standing right next to in one of my own screenshots??? I believe I am one of the first in RS history to find the route to stand right next to it, or at least to have documented it with a screenshot. I BEGAN THIS EPIC QUEST HERE AT RS WIKI AND NO PLACE ELSE. If you found only 100 pages here when you took over, you got [email protected]# - ****ed, okay?

There are 2 million players on the highscores. If they each spent a half-hour a week for a year here, that's 25,000 full time employees at 40 hrs/wk for a year. It's on one of my pages!!!! Go look!

The Talk:Disease_(Farming) page has a discussion that includes everything but 600 millisecond game tics for cryin' out loud! !What?! -- PIKWIT 22:51, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

You've completely lost me. What the hell is the banana crate and why do you keep talking about it? I am telling you that your supposed glorious wiki in the time of Merovingian did not exist. When he left in July 2005, there were fewer than 100 pages. What are you smoking?
Also, that's completely ridiculous to even imagine that 2 million people will put in 30 minutes a week here. It's worse than a pipe dream, and it's not worth even calculating.
I can't tell anymore if you're trolling me, being elliptical, or genuinely believe you're saying something that is understandable. ʞooɔ 22:55, September 17, 2011 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but how the hell is a banana crate relevant? Why do you keep talking about it? ʞooɔ 23:06, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Nevermind. You guys have never understood epicness in the game. Go back to BBQ and botting, and forget I said anything. -- PIKWIT 23:11, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

We don't bot, thanks. Also, there's nothing epic about a stupid banana crate. If you were able to comprehend the necessity for factually correct and insightful information, you might realize that. Suppa chuppa Talk 23:14, September 17, 2011 (UTC)
This. No one can tell what you're saying because you don't make sense. ʞooɔ 23:16, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Please write the words "ALL HAIL CTHULHU" on this image a few times i can't because i don't have image editor. I will pay if you want


All Hail Dark Lord Cthulhu 22:15, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

No one wants to add Beta content until just now, and the ads have gotten worse. I wonder why?

RE:PoP[edit source]

We talked about it in chat and created a list, found [[User:AnselaJonla/Captains|here]]. My edit had absolutely nothing to do with you, and I didn't notice you had even added a new captain until after I saved and checked the history. We had been working on if captains were randomly generated or not since PoP was released. Do not tell other editors to "butt out", this wiki can be edited by anyone. Since, according to the list, they are obviously randomly generated, I removed the captains and deleted their articles. Please revert your edit to the template. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 23:55, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

Well if you look at the edit history, you will see that the list was a) only created a couple of hours ago and b) has only had a few people contribute to it. If you have any Captains not on that list, go ahead and add them. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 00:25, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
Add it to the table, not to my talk page. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 00:43, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
Take it however you want. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 00:49, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
Somebody's going to add it in sooner or later, why not just help us out and add it? What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 01:04, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
I have read the relevant conversations, and I have tried to comply with your wishes, but your standards are set way too high by the looks of it. Clearly you only respond to requests, and when you're given a request, you act like I've only just jumped in when I've been following the conversation the entire time What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 01:32, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
It was mentioned in [[Special:Chat]], and I know I am not the only one following this, given how it appears in Recent Changes too. I only joined in now because Ansela has gone for the night and I thought you'd like a swift response, and I didn't realise you wanted people to state if they are following your conversations What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 01:43, December 13, 2012 (UTC)

I don't plan on monitoring the chat all day just for situations like this. That's what the discussion pages are for, and further that creates a record of why things have been done a certain way to prevent a useless re-hash of a decision. (Sadly, DDD is not a hard and fast rule around here.) If you had mentioned on the discussion page that you had noticed the randomizing of names and planned to delete the list, I would have noticed immediately. I check the discussion pages pretty often before I make an edit, and that's as far as any honest contributor should have to look for guidance on community consensus. You N00BY Wiki-nerds are just creating more hoops for guests to jump through to monopolize the Wiki. I hope that silly little stipend is worth being such asses. OneEyedGnome 16:11, March 11, 2013 (UTC)

You're still a bunch of stuck-up assholes. --ThatOneCH00B 16:54, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

Precious components[edit source]

Hi! I see you added devices and machines to the precious components article, you don't have to do that since the article already lists those devices and machines. For that reason, I've reverted your changes. Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 22:27, June 12, 2018 (UTC)

the Wikian[edit source]

Hello, this is just a notice to let you know your nomination for the wikian was unsuccessful. Feel free to read over your nomination for advice on how to improve for your next nomination. svco4bY.png3Gf5N2F.png 02:13, August 3, 2018 (UTC)

Leaving Wikia[edit source]

Hi TheLastWordSword,

If you're not already aware, The RuneScape Wiki is migrating to a new wiki with Jagex's direct support. In order to raise awareness, we currently have an ongoing thread (Forum:Leaving Wikia) that discusses all the changes: Why we're moving, where the new wiki will be, and what our next plans are. It would be great if you could give it a read and a comment so that you're aware of the changes!

Thanks, HaidroH rune.pngEagle feather 3.pngCandle (blood red).png 1XqyDNM.png Crystal triskelion fragment 3.pngHazelmere's signet ring.png 03:30, September 28, 2018 (UTC)