User talk:Sannse

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Apology[edit source]

Sannse, I am very sorry for harassing Pordenone on different Fandom wikis. I was sick and tired of him threatening people from Fandom staff. I hope you forgive me, and I promise never to harass him ever again! Thanks!

PS: My Fandom IP address is

2601:4C4:4000:C420:B0AE:E854:D903:94E5 06:22, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Keylogger advertisement (quite a few actually...)[edit source]

Hi. Angela is not responding or anything a the moment, so I'll have to rely on you to remove this keylogger advertisement. Keyloggers break the JaGex Rules. Infact, there are quite a few. They are all Google advertisements by the way.

Heading: Hidden Keylog Recorder

Description: Capture all passwords & read emails Used by law enforcement agencies.

HTML link:

That was only the first one.

Heading: Buy WebWatcher KeyLogger

Description: The only key logger used by intelligence agencies worldwide.

HTML Link:

That was the second one.

Heading: Undetectable Keylogger

Description: Secretly record every keystroke! View Remotely! Money back guarantee

HTML Link:

That was the third and final one.

Thanks. Dragon chainbody.pngEmosSysop crown.svg 09:27, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I've reported these. Please could you tell me the page you saw them on? And what skin you were using at the time? That will help us track them down and get them stopped. Thanks -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 17:18, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm not really sure what page I saw them on; infact, they appeared on quite a few. I am currently using the Monobook skin, and I was using Monobook as well back then. Dragon chainbody.pngEmosworldSysop crown.svg 09:26, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
We've blocked these, although we will have to watch out for new ones. If you see them, please let me know! Thanks -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 19:23, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Carbon Monobook[edit source]

Hey, I noticed you take part in a lot of our skin discussion and I have a question. The wiki's monobook custom, [[RuneScape:Theme/carbon.css|Carbon]], has a problem where the main page shows up as white instead of the normal scroll colour. An image is on this page. Why does this happen? Thanks. Chicken7 >talk 08:11, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

hello[edit source]

ms sannse, i am seeking your help on an idea i have proposed for the wikis, i was thinking about creating a high court system to give users with a reasonable excuse a fair trial to legally discuss the ban, and flaming can be advoided, the thing is, banned user's talks are either redirected or ignored oe even protected (making them virtually untouchable) so, i sent the proposal to the yew grove, but they think that users will have to be unblocked to do so and that can create problems, thereore, can you help in that making the court hearing page accessable to the banned user, but blocking him/her from all other pages(excluding talk)? thank you. because i really ned your help on this one and i know it will not take off with the users thinking it will have to be a democracy to do this. Explorer's ring 3.pngBtzkillerv has entered the building! Cape (blue).png 19:52, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid that's not possible, you can't be selective about bans in that way -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 17:59, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
sigh, okay then

Explorer's ring 3.pngBtzkillerv has entered the building! Cape (blue).png 12:25, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Forumadminship[edit source]

There was recently a discussion about a user being given forumadminship. The user, known as InstantWinston, has achieved consensus to become a forumadmin but not a sysop. As a local bureaucrat, I do not have the power to give another user forumadminship myself. Therefore, I request that you grant the necessary user rights. Thanks in advance. Dtm142 00:06, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi, sorry for missing this message. There is a technical problem with this, forumadmin isn't showing on the rights page for me, but I'll get someone from the technical team to fix that. Hopefully I'll be able to do this soon. -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 10:04, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Has it been fixed yet? (just wondering, not being pushy)

InstantWinstonDragon 2h sword old.pngold edits | new edits

23:39, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

That would be amazing if you actually got it working! O_o Wintumber tree.png C0ngratz406 (talk) Santa hat detail.png 08:30, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

We're all routing for the technical team. Go, team, go! ~kytti khat 15:46, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi sorry for the delay, I've not been around much over the holiday. Nor have the tech team of course :) so we haven't been releasing new code. But the fix has been added to the code and should go live next Tuesday. I've also set things so that bureaucrats have the forum access rights. -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 16:20, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
I just wanted to check up on the progress of the code change. It’s Wednesday (at least where I am) and the changes do not seem to have been made yet. Was it Tuesday next week, the 13th, that you were talking about? Quest map icon.png Laser Dragon Task map icon.png 22:10, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Argh, seems the fix didn't work! I've talked to Nef (they guy working on this) and he can't see why his changes didn't take. He's going to have another go. Sorry about this! -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 10:05, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
And he's fixed it :) looks to be working to me now -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 10:50, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

New problem: I can now see all of the special mod stuff, but I can't actually do anything. I tried to deal with a report, and it said I'm not authorized to access this area.

InstantWinstonDragon 2h sword old.pngold edits | new edits

20:20, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

More forum related requests :-P Could you remove “My first Category” from the forums and update to the latest stable version (if it won’t kill the forum) when you have time? In addition, the forumadmin permission does not seem to work for bureaucrats. Quest map icon.png Laser Dragon Task map icon.png 22:25, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

I've managed to remove the category (and kept the Tavern). But I'm having trouble finding controls on authorization... still trying to work that out. The problem is that the phpBB forums are a strange add-on that we allowed on a couple of wikis, but didn't continue to support. We don't add them to new wikis, and we aren't used to dealing them them. Only about 5 wikis out of the 10,000 or so on wikis have these, the others have the wiki forums installed instead. I'm not sure of the solution at the moment, but we'll figure it out :) -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 18:01, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for all your help with Forum Admin and the forums :-) Quest map icon.png Laser Dragon Task map icon.png 04:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, everything works now, except for three reports from November. A new one came up yesterday or the day before and I dealt with it fine. I think those particular reports are glitched.

InstantWinstonDragon 2h sword old.pngold edits | new edits

22:06, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Ah, that's great. Maybe the system just won't let you deal with reports from too long before you got access. Either way, glad it's working now -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 18:15, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy New Year!!!![edit source]

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!! From: Bonziiznob Purple partyhat detail.png

11:29, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

And to you and all on RuneScape Wiki! -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 17:27, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Remove a Bureaucrat[edit source]

Can you remove Ppiotr2 from Bureaucrats? The right was added during FourmAdmin testing, and was never removed. Thanks in advance. Quest map icon.png Laser Dragon Task map icon.png 08:38, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi, that's done -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 13:00, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Help![edit source]

We're having real trouble with a persistant vandal recently, any chance you can do a checkuser? The usernames are CS2, CS3, CS4, CS5, CS6, CS7... CS11, CS12..., plus a few more. If we can get an IP range, then hopefully we can get that blocked.

Thanks Administrator Hurston (T # C) 18:00, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I got a hold of Kirkburn on central and he managed to block the IP. =) Karlis (talk) (contribs) 18:02, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Karlis, sorry to bother you Sannse Administrator Hurston (T # C) 18:03, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Uploads Problems?[edit source]

Sorry to bother you but myself and a couple other users have been experiencing problems with image uploads, specially adding transparency to some images and re-uploading them.

To reference, please check out Image:Ghostly.PNG, which has had several attempts to re-upload the image with transparency. The current image does not have transparency, but if you notice it has been reverted to a previous image. If you view that previous image the transparency is present, but not on the current version. Also, if you do a search for Image:Ghostly.png, you will see the image appear as transparent in the search results, but again, not in the actual image article.

Also, on Image:Lesser reborn mage.png, you will notice it may or may not have transparency. To some users it does not, however in my browser it does...but it has not been applied to the template it is linked too [[Template:Reborn|here]].

Can you please not me know if this is a problem the wikia is experiencing with uploads or if I am doing something wrong... Thanks!

Bonziiznob Talk

06:10, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi, yes we have had problems with one of the servers not showing current images today. I'm sorry about that, it should be fixed now. I can see the various versions of the image in the history - so hopefully that's the end of it.
And guys, you are never bothering me :) I'm here to help -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 22:43, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Is this acting up again? I am trying to update images but it's not reloading it... :S 09:11, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
For some reason the server(s) is/are not showing the some of the images. You can upload new ones, but not new revisions of the image... --Rollback crown.svg Spencer (Talk | Edits | Contribs) 01:28, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Artur is doing work on the servers at the moment, which should fix a lot of problems with images not updating fast enough. It should be starting to work for some people, but those of us on the London servers will still be seeing some problems at the moment. Hopefully he will be done soon! Sorry about this -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 20:24, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Vandal Bot[edit source]

He's back, this time under the bot name 'Anti-Vandal Bot'. I've indefed the bot and protected the site for 30 minutes while we cleared up the vandalism. Is there anything else we can do besides reverting and blocking? Andrew talk 04:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

He came back three more times. The site has been protected for the next 8 hours. Andrew talk 05:02, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Fighting Vandal-Bots[edit source]

Hi, as you know, we have been fighting a vandal bot. Would you take a look at this and tell us if the idea is remotely possible? Thanks - Prayer Jediadam4 (Talk) Bandosgodsword.gif 19:40, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi, yes it's possible... but I'm not sure how probable it is. The tech team have so much to do, so it's difficult to get another project added :( But I'll look into it, and see what might be done -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 20:30, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Desysopping[edit source]

Hi, sorry to bother you. Not too long ago, we had a discussion on the Yew Grove about desysopping an sysop who was abusing his sysop tools. The discussion can be found here. As you can see, he closed the discussion at the end, and nobody was sure about what to do, thus nothing was done about the desysopping. The discussion was later archived. Well, Puremexican is no longer active and has quit the RuneScape Wiki, thus there is no reason for him to have sysop rights. So could you desysop him? Thanks. C.ChiamTalk 05:54, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Well as it happens, we are trying a bit of an experiment at the moment... and we have given Bureaucrats the ability to do this for the wiki. We are hoping to give more control to the wikis in the future, with the ability to turn features on and off and so on, this is a move in that direction. So please ask one of your friendly local bureaucrats for help :) -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 09:28, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
I see. Thanks, I'll contact a bureaucrat now. C.ChiamTalk 09:32, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

The Yew Grove[edit source]

It appears we have reached a consensus in regards to a forum set-up about splitting the Yew Grove. Can you help us begin it. Thanks!

Bonziiznob Talk

06:39, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

No problem :) it's set up. See Forum:Index -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 12:02, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
I have done my best to make all the necessary changes. How would I easily find links such as RuneScape:Yew Grove#for example in articles and relink them to the forum discussion? Can you overlook the forum, and see if I did everything correctly? Sorry if I sound too hesitant, I'm not an admin or sysops, just an everyday user, so I don't want the community angry with me if I just destroyed their Grove. I want to make sure it's right. Thanks! 14:43, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Whoa, loads of work done! :) You can find links to the old page via Special:WhatLinksHere/RuneScape:Yew Grove, but I would suggest that it's not worth fixing all of those by hand. Each will redirect to the main forum page now, which could just have a line saying "see <here> for old archived topics". There will be fewer and fewer clicks on those links over time anyway.
On the general changes, all looks good to me! -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 15:27, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

We (as a community) appreciate your assistance in getting this transition done as quickly and smoothly as possible. Thanks Sannse! Karlis (talk) (contribs) 15:33, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

I concur. Thanks for the help, much appreciated. 15:58, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Anytime! I'm glad to help :) -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 16:13, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi[edit source]

Hey! So nice to see you working on our wikia! Santa hat.png Powers38 おはようヾ(´・ω・`) 12:07, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Just lending a hand :) -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 12:09, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Good job! Liam - Beta Tester (talk) 09:28, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Happy St. Patrick's Day![edit | edit source]

Happy St. Patrick's Day!

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Andrew talk

Thanks :) -- sannse<staff /> (User:Wikia:sannse|talk]]) 11:00, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikia[edit source]

Just a thought, but does User:Wikia or The creator belong to you guys? Wikia is welcoming IP users, but somehow, it's using admins name. Santa hat.png Powers38 おはようヾ(´・ω・`) 13:00, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

It's ok, I've turned it off. Administrator Hurston (T # C) 13:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Sannse, I've disabled it according to the instructions, but it is still doing it. Can you help? Administrator Hurston (T # C) 13:16, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Nevermind, it seems to have caught up with itself and stopped. Administrator Hurston (T # C) 13:48, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi, looks like you already have this sorted.... [[Wikia:Forum:New features coming on Wednesday]] for more on this. -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 08:43, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

'Nother dupe[edit source]

We have another copycat... :/ WWTDD? 16:03, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

That looks like a separate wiki, rather than a copy of this one? They don't appear to be using content from here (which they could do with attribution anyway, of course). It doesn't look like a problem -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 13:58, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Possible problem with IPs again[edit source]


I've just blocked an IP which has been blocked before when there was a problem with the wiki assigning a single IP to several users, which you unblocked last time. Can you look into it please? The IP address is Cheers. Administrator Hurston (T # C) 10:36, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, yes, that's a bug. The same IP was being assigned to several users again. The techs are looking into it. Sorry about that! -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 09:26, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Obsolete Extensions[edit source]

Hello, I was wondering if you could disable the following extensions, as they are now part of MediaWiki 1.14.

  • DeletedContributions (it's creating a duplicate link on the top of contributions pages)
  • UniversalEditButton

Thanks! Quest map icon.png Laser Dragon Task map icon.png 20:24, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

They are both scheduled to be removed next week. --Uberfuzzy<staff /> 13:23, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Massive Vandalism[edit source]

There has been massive vandalism on the MechScape Wiki by one of your Admins. He has deleted 40 pages and blocked 5 users (including me) for 1 year, all without reason. He has also replaced the main page with the word 'Nuked'. Could you please do something about this. Theboy1001 19:09, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Blog?[edit source]

Why was the blog feature installed on the RuneScape Wiki even after we signed the page saying we didn't want it after this discussion? Andrew talk 14:35, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi, sorry about that... a typo in the exclusion list. It's fixed now -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 14:52, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
No problem. Thanks for your help. :) Andrew talk 14:53, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

What happened to the "No duplicate wikis" thing?[edit source]

Currently we are having a discussion regarding several duplicate RuneScape Wikis that have been found. Arn't duplicate wikis not supposed to be created? I can't seem to find any policy about this but I know from experiance that if you request a wiki to be created and theres already a wiki about the same topic the request doesn't go through. So why did these ones go through? It would help if you cleared things up there. Thank you. --— Enigma 16:45, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi, the policy on this changed a few months ago, when we introduced automatic wiki creation. If you [[wikia:Special:CreateWiki|create a wiki]] now, you don't wait for approval at all, The wiki is created automatically. So although we still strongly recommend that people work on one wiki per subject, we no longer disallow wikis on the same topic. We can merge wikis, although we wouldn't do so if they were wanted by the founder or there were other reasons to leave them alone. Mostly it's not necessary, these little RuneScape wikis are not going to affect this one :) -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 15:58, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
One of them consists of templates and articles copied and pasted from this wiki and other fansites like Sals Realm. You can tell because they are still full of links that lead to here and there. :s Andrew talk 16:01, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
The rules on copying still apply. It's allowed to take content from this wiki (and any other with a suitable license) but you must give attribution to the source. And, of course, if the source doesn't have a free license, then you can't copy from it (except with permission to put it under the Creative Commons license). I would suggest that you tell the wiki founder that, and ask him to give attribution. If that doesn't work, and there is still a problem, then you can mail Wikia and we will have a look -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 16:56, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Wiki forums[edit source]

Hello Sannse, on the wiki forums sysops and forum admins are unable to close/delete reported posts. I was wondering if you could change this or delete/close the current reports for us. Also, is there any way for us to use the moderation queue so posts don't have to be deleted? Thanks. Smile Andrew talk 04:02, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Oops, missed this one. Do you mean the phpBB forums? Unfortunately, they were an experiment that didn't work out... so they are only on the few wikis that tried them out, and are no longer being added or developed. Which all means that there are some horrible bugs in there, and no way for them to get fixed. And I don't even know how to use the admin controls I'm afraid. Sorry not to be of more help -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 17:22, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Would there be any way to give us access to the admin controls so we can try to fix it on the admin CP? I have some experience with phpBB. Andrew talk 22:37, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
This version of phpbb is heavily modified, so there aren't all the same otpions available and I can't give you more access. But I have asked the technical team to look at the problem, and see if they can help -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 18:36, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey...[edit source]

Hey,I've edited your talk page to remove a redlink clogging up our wanted pages,so now you'll get a "you have new messages and yada yada" thing. So,see ya! --

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Captain Sciz
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17:18, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) it reminded me of a message I'd forgotten! -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 17:22, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Offensive adverts[edit source]

Hi Sannse. I'd like to bring your attention to a discussion regarding Evony advertisements. There has been unanimous support for the removal of these advertisements, so could you remove them? We are aware of [ this], but we'd just like to establish our standpoint regarding these advertisements. Thanks. C.ChiamTalk 09:34, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Hi, we are removing these every time we see them... they are universally disliked, including by us! The problem is, that each time ask one of our providers to remove an ad, another appears on a different network (or even on the same network, with different details). I'm afraid it's a "wack-a-mole" situation, and one that sites all over the internet are going though at the moment. We have a new ad guy, who is very keen to get these off the site, so we will keep at it! -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 01:04, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
Awesome, thanks! C.ChiamTalk 01:04, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
While we're on the subject of removing ads would it be possible to remove the RuneScape gold selling adverts as well? Andrew talk 01:29, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
Again, it's a case of remove one, and another 3 will appear the next day... but we'll keep trying! On those ad networks that let us block key words, "gold" is one of those we block. If they come through on Google, they are easy to block... but on other networks it can be tricky. All I can say is, keep sending in specifics (see that bad ads page linked above) and we do care about these ads. I don't think we will ever be able to get rid of them completely, but we will certainly keep trying to improve the quality of the ads we show. -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 01:44, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. Smile Andrew talk 01:46, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Persistent vandal[edit source]

This vandal seems to have an unlimited supply of accounts, which he uses to remove content from whichever page strikes his fancy. I'm not too keen on locking the site down, so could you look into it? WWTDD? 17:29, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Hah, and apparently I'm the unrepentant one. Aaron haaa 17:31, September 13, 2009 (UTC)
[[w:User talk:Sannse#Global block request -|I'm a telltale, too.]] OMG! ShinyUnown T | C | E 17:34, September 13, 2009 (UTC)
If you need to, block and make sure that "Block anonymous users only" is not checked. I'll be happy to do more checks if the IP changes. -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 18:05, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Concerning ad hiding[edit source]

Hi Sannse, I made some changes to my personal monaco.css file that hides the ads on the main page, but I wasn't sure if it was allowed or not so I commented it for now. In the Terms of Use it says, "Not intentionally block, remove, or otherwise obstruct the proper functioning and view of advertisements by other users, including but not limited to changing or adding javascript or CSS changes to the Service that would prevent the proper display or function of advertisements." Since it specifically mentions by other users, is it OK as long as it's only in my personal .css file? Andrew talk 02:44, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Hi, yes, your own css files are not a problem... as long as you don't affect other users, we don't mind what you put in there -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 01:18, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Images don't refresh[edit source]

Hi. This problem occurs on this wikia very often. Users upload an image, and a other user adjusts that and uploads a new version over it. But then the image still shows the original image with the dimensions of the new one.. A lot of users experience this problem. Any way that this can be fixed? Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 11:14, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Hi, it's usually best to use Special:Contact for problems like this, but I've asked Uberfuzzy to have a look -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 16:48, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
Hi, yeah, its a problem we're dealing with right now. Its an issue with our caches (NOT your browser's cache, there isnt anything you can do about it). The new image gets sent to our main server, and stored. Then a "message" gets sent to the cache network (see CDN) that sits between you and us, to let them know that the image has changed, and they should mark their copy as 'old', and the next time it gets requested, they should contact us to get the new file. The problem is occurring where that message is getting delayed or not sent by us (lag/servers backed up on work), or not getting acted on fast enough by them (too much to do?). This causes you till still see the "old" version of the image, and not the new one for a while. This is very noticible if the size changed, because our servers know that the size is different, and send that in the html to your browser, but the image data sent by the CDN network, is of a differnt size, leading to smushed/stretched images. One of the other effects that you guys may have noticed, is that depending on where things are bottlenecked at, some thumbnails (anything resized is considered a thumnail) of images dont change right away (this issue is mostly on our end). We're fine tuning the process that created thumbnails as they are requested to make them get created faster, and also adding new servers to make them even more fasterer. So, some of the problems are on our machines, and we're working on them, but some are on someone elses machines, which we cant fix. We can work with them to identify the problems and get them fixed. The reason not everyone sees the same problems when they happen, is the CDN has "nodes" all over the world, and you might be closer to a different one based on where you are, sort of like cellphone towers. I hope this made sense. --Uberfuzzy<staff /> 17:05, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
Okay, thank you for your reply! I understand now. Glad to hear that you are working on it. Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 22:43, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
Hi, just wondering, does this whole section of discussion include what's going on at this page? Or am I thinking of a totally different problem? Am I the only one who sees how hectic that page is with a messed up cache? Almost all of those images were updated weeks ago, why haven't they updated yet? They're all... glitchy... O_o So many questions... Quest point cape.pngLil Diriz 77 Talk Summoning-icon.png 07:54, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
It looks to me as though the updated files are glitchy too - look at the file history. The problem seems to be in resizing animated images. The system just isn't coping with calculating the animation when changing the size. I would suggest you upload images that are the size you want to use in the article. -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 23:05, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Do you use 4chan?[edit source]

Saw on your user page that you check up on Uncyclopedia, so was wondering if you knew what a meme was. =D --Fruit.Smoothie 03:15, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Yep, I know what a meme is, and I also know enough to stay well away from 4chan! ;) -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 01:58, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
=O! More than I expected


Merry Christmas to you, Sannse ^_^!

A time for cookies, love, snow, trees, and all the rest.

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Your fellow Wikian, Fruit.Smoothie
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awwww... thanks! -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 21:46, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Copyright Infringement[edit source]

Hi Sannse,

We are currently considering a ban on this user for breach of several rules, including copyright infringement. I was told by a helper that CR is not for the Wiki users to handle, but for the Wikia staff to handle. If that is indeed the case, then could you please take a look into this case? The copyright infringement occured when Parsonsda copied the contents of several books found in RuneScape word by word into his library. I cannot show you the books at the moment, since they have since been removed by other users for violating copyright law. I will post a link here when I have found them in the page histories.

Thanks, --LiquidTalk 22:55, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Special:Protectsite[edit source]

Hello Sannse. Recently, it was noticed that a change was made to Special:Protectsite, such that it is now limited to Wikia staff, Helpers and VSTF members. However, the Wiki has experienced several Vandalism Bot attacks in the past, and we would like to be able to use this tool to lock the Wiki and stop Vandalism Bots effectively. We do have a policy regarding the use of the tool and will only use it when absolutely necessary. As such, could permission rights be granted to sysops and bureaucrats for the use of this tool? Thank you. C.ChiamTalk 08:00, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

We have used Special:Protectsite in the past, and it has helped. This Wiki is the target of many attacks. We've been using protectsite for awhile effectively, before Caleb was even around. But only in extreme situations that require it. Please re-grant the rights for us to use it. Thanks. Chicken7 >talk 08:07, March 19, 2010 (UTC)
Hi, sorry for the slow reply - busy week! The feature has been switched back to allow admins to use it. It was part of a global change, but I know you've had problems here so we are happy for you to have access. -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 21:07, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

RevisionDelete[edit source]

Recently there was a vandal who put a name & address in an article, and removing it meant deleting the page and restoring everything but that edit. I did some searching, and found revisiondelete, and saw that it can be used to allow sysops to hide stuff from users, without hiding it from other sysops. Is there any chance that the ability to delete specific edits can be granted to sysops? I'm not asking for oversight, just to hide stuff that can cause serious problems, like personal information, which is currently a hassle to remove. IQEMHVABucket detail.pngrwojy 05:44, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

I've never heard of this tool before, but it seems like one that could benefit our administrators. I myself have also seen similar situations like the above in the past, and it has been a hassle to deal with it. We of course would put appropriate restrictions in place to ensure that admins don't abuse the tool "unknowingly". Cheers, Chicken7 >talk 06:39, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
(Not Sannse) This is one thing that won't be enabled by Wikia; because it is oversight. This tool, unfortunately, is too easily abused and requires too much time to undo to make it practical. Also, it really isn't that much quicker anyways :3 Ajraddatz Talk 13:38, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
That's actually not true, oversight was just a hack. Revisiondelete is much easier to undo, and it isn't oversight, exactly, because it can be enabled for admins to hide an edit from users, and another group can be enabled to hide from admins & other users. SNONZGBucket detail.pngrwojy 15:13, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
He's right, it's not oversight, which is "permanent" and done via Special:HideRevision...However, Special:RevisionDelete is a completely different feature and special page, is not permanent...can be seen by other users with the right, and is easily undoable. And each item "hidden" is logged in the deletion log ([[w:c:magistream:Special:Log/delete|example]]). As for the justification, It'd probably be best to go with Special:Contact. --CharitwoTalk 15:23, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't read through the description well enough. Thanks for the clarification :) Ajraddatz Talk 18:08, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
Yep, special contact is best... we prefer that because the request will go straight to someone able to change the settings, and because it gives us a central record of requests. If one of you can send that in, we should be able to help :) -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 03:40, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Deleted images still useable[edit source]

Hi there. Recently one of our editors, Parsonsda, uploaded an image he found on a copyright infringing third party copy of RuneScape, known locally as a private server. He admits this here. I deleted the image and removed the links to the images in his signature, yet he was able to put the deleted images back into his signature by changing the links thusly. Is that supposed to happen? It seems like this could easily be exploited by a vandal. They could upload an offensive image and still be able to use it even after it was deleted. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 18:44, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Hey Psycho, I know a bit about stuff like this, and while I can't answer your question completely, I can put a little light on it. First of all, after an image is deleted, the image itself remains on Wikia's servers for a while, in case someone wants to restore the file. That is what happened in this case, it looks like; the image was still in the database. I find that it takes a couple of months before that database is cleared. Beyond that though, there isn't much that you can do. Vandals, if they were really intent on having those images, could just upload them onto photobucket or another Wikia project, and use it that way. For example,
that is a Red LEGO Brick from Anyways, I hope that this shed some light on the situation. Just remember one thing; if we were so concerned about vandalism, then we wouldn't be doing this in the first place ;). You might also want to wait for Sannse/someone more knowledgeable than me's answer, 'cause I don't know everything. Ajraddatz Talk 19:43, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Hummm... Aj is right that images are not deleted fully when they are deleted (which is why admins can restore them) but they shouldn't be usable. I'll see if I can find out what's going on here - sannse<staff /> (talk) 04:31, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Rich text editor issues[edit source]

Stuff like this keeps happening with the Rich Text Editor. And when its not stuff like that, its stuff like this. What's up? Is there anything we can do to fix it? kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 01:26, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I've put a bug report in. Any other examples would be useful... thanks! --sannse<staff /> (talk) 18:49, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
We think both issues are solved, please can you let me know if you see them again. Thanks -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 18:59, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
Thank you, I will do so. By the way, the previous "deleted images still useable" problem isn't a problem. Parsonsda just uploaded it to the chinese version of RuneScape wiki and used the direct links here on this one. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 21:22, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
Ah, thanks, I missed that -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 23:56, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
The RTE issues aren't quite solved, I just saw this edit. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 23:41, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
Psycho is right. This edit managed to add over 1200 characters to that page. --LiquidTalk 01:53, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
Argh! I've reported this, thanks for letting me know -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 22:34, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
I'm not quite sure what this is, but it could possibly be the RTE, since it looks like computer code. --LiquidTalk 12:35, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
(Yes, that is an RTE thing) Ajraddatz Talk 19:22, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
The original issue is still around, as seen in this edit. --LiquidTalk 20:04, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
Don't worry, Wikia knows that this thing is still around, and to the best of my knowledge they are trying to fix it. Ajraddatz Talk 20:05, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the examples. I think the Grenwall one is a cut-and-paste error. That text is included if you copy outside the content area. The original issue is in the bugs queue, but I don't know when it will be fixed yet I'm afraid. -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 21:02, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

IRC Cloak[edit source]

Hey I requested an IRC Cloak and was told to message you here, So yeah Lol I made a request on the page too. Thanks.   Swizz Talk   Events!   20:12, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Hi, you need to actually catch me (or Uberfuzzy) on IRC. This is the only way we can verify everything we need to. I'm usually there for part of the afternoon (PST) and some of the evening. Sorry I can't be more exact than that -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 22:36, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

File history merge bug[edit source]

Hi, recently I came across two images covering the same subject, File:Cockatrice icon.png (current) and File:Cockatrice icon.PNG (obsolete). Since we as a community have decided to preserve contribution history wherever possible, instead of deleting the obsolete PNG version, I merged it with the current png version. The obsolete version had the following revisions:

  • 06:44, 1 September 2008
  • 22:22, 30 August 2008

and the current version had just one:

  • 01:34, 13 August 2009

When I merged the file histories, the revisions came up in this order:

  • 06:44, 1 September 2008
  • 01:34, 13 August 2009
  • 22:22, 30 August 2008

I'm no horologist, but I'm pretty sure 2009 comes after 2008! I've encountered this problem before, however, and deleting and undeleting the file page will put the revisions back in the correct order. So I did that, resulting in the history that you can see right now. This bug has been annoying me over the past few days, and I figured you should know about it if you don't already know. In case you need to know the exact steps I took, they are:

  1. Moved File:Cockatrice icon.PNG to File:Cockatrice icon.png, creation of redirect suppressed
  2. Confirmed that I wish to delete the existing File:Cockatrice icon.png
  3. Undeleted all deleted revisions of File:Cockatrice icon.png, this is where I was confronted with the out-of-order revisions explained above
  4. Deleted all revisions of File:Cockatrice icon.png
  5. Undeleted all revisions of File:Cockatrice icon.png, resulting in the revisions appearing in the correct order

If you could pass this along to the techies or anything like that, I'd appreciate it. Thanks, kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 02:15, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I've asked DaNASCAT to look at this... sounds odd...
In general, it's better to use Special:contact for bug reports, I don't always get to talk pages as fast as I'd like! Thanks -- sannse<staff /> (help forum | blog) 00:54, July 9, 2010 (UTC)
Oh, for those interested this bug was reported, and has now been fixed. ajr 00:55, July 9, 2010 (UTC)
Oh, ok thanks I will be sure to use that next time. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 00:56, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

Arrr...[edit source]

Ahoy Sannse,













Matt (t) 23:12, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Ahoy, and thank yee my hearties (belatedly). Especially as ITLAPD was also my birthday :) -- sannse<staff /> (help forum | blog) 04:33, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Well, in that case... (see below) Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 04:56, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Happy Belated Birthday[edit source]

Original video

Happy Belated Birthday, Sannse, make a wish! Happy Belated Birthday, Sannse!

Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 04:56, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Awwww.. thanks! -- sannse<staff /> (help forum | blog) 19:43, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

More namespaces[edit source]

Hi Sannse,

Is it possible to have the namespace count (22) increased to, say, 24? We have a need, or at least a use, for another namespace for our Charm data. I've noticed that some other wikis have more namespaces, so would it be possible to do the same here? While another namespace is not necessarily essential, it would be very helpful and would bypass many of the issues we're facing as we try to implement our new and improved charm logs. If that is not possible, could we remove some of the little-used namespaces (such as Exchange talk or Forum talk), or do they have to be in pairs? This is not exactly a request for more namespaces, because we'd need to discuss it on our forums.

Thank you,

ʞooɔ 00:44, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it's possible to add some extras. They do come in pairs (for wikis with talk pages rather than comments) but we don't need to remove any to add more. Once the community agrees, just let us know via Special:Contact and we'll look at adding them -- Sannse 03:31, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

help[edit source]

why does it say who uoploaded picshures now its anoying

Why do images say who uploaded them now 23:03, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Hi, it's one of the additions of Wikia's new look. The aim is to help visitors see that there is a community behind the articles, and hopefully join in and edit themselves :) -- Sannse<staff /> (help forum | blog) 04:23, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

Image Attribution and Wiki Independence[edit source]

Hi Sannse,

I'd like to add a few more thoughts about our conversation in the IRC the other day dealing with the new Oasis theme. In it, one of your main points was that we (the community of the wiki) won't always make the best decisions for our editors, and therefore Wikia must step in to make them for us. Hence, we are not allowed to remove things like image attribution.

However, this is at-odds with statements made by Wikia staff before. For an example, see this quote written by you. In it, you said "I comes down to 'your wiki, your choice'." (I assume what you meant to say was "It comes down..." instead of "I comes down..."). Another example was an email sent by Uberfuzzy to Azaz129, one of our bureaucrats. It can be found here. Uberfuzzy said that "a large stable community can exist and be fairly self sufficient at Wikia, with little need from staff/helper intervention", and that the RuneScape Wiki was "a shining example of [Wikia's] dream".

Such statements promote the independence of wikis and our ability (especially a large, active wiki such as this) to make our own choices. Why has the open atmosphere shifted so much from then to now? How much have the priorities at Wikia changed?

Thanks for your time,

--LiquidTalk 23:03, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

Hi Liquidhelium, I don't think that the priorities have changed, we still want every wiki on Wikia to be a success, and for the communities (both local and global) to grow and thrive.
We have been worried for a while about some wikis removing features. Mostly because this is often done by admins who don't like a feature, without them realizing that it is something that "the silent majority" might use.
A good example is the activity feed (which is on MyHome in Monaco). I've seen wikis that removed this, and I've also heard users say that this is the most important page on the wiki for them. Older users may prefer Recent Changes, which is obviously better for experienced users, but a newer user may get more involved because of the simple "one glance" feed that shows them key activity.
So what we are trying to do is to identify the key features and say "these must be available". If someone were to ask to remove the edit button and to get everyone to edit by adjusting the URL (to give a bit of a silly example), we would obviously say "no". The overall framework is one of the factors we see as important, which is why we are asking people to keep their customization to the content area (tables, infoboxes, whatever) and to the general theme of the wiki.
Image attribution is a new feature, and we don't yet know if it will be one of those that's a key to helping wikis grow or not. The idea of this feature is to help in some problems we've identified with new users realizing there is a community behind the content, and that they can join and edit. So the intention is to try it on all wikis, and find out exactly how well it works. We will definitely be watching to see the future of this and all the new and changed elements of the skin.
We definitely don't want to take away from the independence of this wiki, I totally agree with Uberfuzzy that it's a shining example of a wiki community. What we want to do is to do our part in providing that community with a platform that helps bring them new members, and helps them build the wiki.
I hope that helps -- Sannse<staff /> (help forum | blog) 01:57, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

Merge log[edit source]

(I know you might say use Special:Contact, but I like somethings where more people can see them) I was wondering what this was, and to my knowledge wasn't always there (or I'm just metaphorically blind) and why it has nothing in it. I know Special:MergeHistory is the page needed to log actions, but it seems to last be checked 14 months ago. So I am pondering whether this is an outdated log and special page (since ?action=delete and Special:MovePage can do the same to a similar effect), and why have a special page that no one can access? Thanks. Ryan PM 01:54, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, on that note, could admins please be allowed to use that extension again? It makes life easier. ajr 01:57, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
I don't know about this feature, so I'm getting info :) I'll get back to you (Aj, prod me on Skype or wherever if I forget) -- Sannse<staff /> (help forum | blog) 19:03, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
It's a feature that's not enabled by default - but it was easier to not hide the log :)
And, yep, I can get it enabled for admins here... will do! -- Sannse<staff /> (help forum | blog) 02:26, October 29, 2010 (UTC)
Done. --Uberfuzzy<staff /> 21:24, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Category:Blog posts[edit source]

I'm getting no response from Uberfuzzy on this so I'm gonna ask you. Is there any way at all you could permanetly remove the pages from [[:Category:Blog posts]]? Matt (t) 06:56, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

That's been taken care of, matt... click that link... Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 06:58, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
Ohhhhhh whoops. =D Matt (t) 07:02, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

It seems that we have a big problem...[edit source]

User:Ikin has made unacceptable decisions and I think DDoS'd User:Evil1888's personal website by IRC and a help from another friend named "Seth". We have been discussing it here, and I'm very worried by the behavior because in the past she has been blocked for abusing AWB, to my extent active here. I think you may want to talk to her... --中亚人/中亞人 (Chinasian/Jeffwang16) 跟我谈话 12:53, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Sannse, you may disregrad the above. Jeffwang/Chinasian is still relatively new to our wiki process and did not understand that we are fully capable of handling it on our own. Take a peek if you like of course, but the situation is well in hand. Thank you.--Degenret01 14:22, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

You do not understand we need to get the local police involved. This is very, very serious, and DDoS'ing is illegal. Degenret, since you're not authorities (and neither am I) I recommend just authorities manage this serious problem. --中亚人/中亞人 (Chinasian/Jeffwang16) 跟我谈话 16:14, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Sannse, I haz a cookie for you right there -> Cookie --Farming cape (t).png Ikin Talk 14:31, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Degenret01, let me know if I'm needed :) -- Sannse<staff /> (help forum | blog) 06:56, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

User:[edit source]

I'm sorry for that; please don't kill me over it. I have enough to worry with from the three bureaucrats that I probably enraged by deleting their IP redirects. Frown --LiquidTalk 01:16, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Heh, I think I can cope without the redirect ;) -- Sannse<staff /> (help forum | blog) 06:57, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Image attribution[edit source]

Hi Sannse. Can we get image attribution removed here? We seem to be overwhelmingly against it and it goes against our local policies. ʞooɔ 18:53, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

The addition to make it removable by settings isn't in place yet, but in the mean time you can go ahead and remove it via CSS. I think there's some old code in your stylesheet already that will do this? -- Sannse<staff /> (help forum | blog) 01:03, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

wikia cloak/ hi[edit source]

hi its KDanger 100 leaving the requested message for you Zaros symbol.png KDanger Talk 02:08, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

OK, thanks -- sannse (help forum | blog) 01:16, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

IRC[edit source]

Yep -- it's me. Michagogo (talk) 20:35, July 29, 2012 (UTC)

Hello![edit source]

I am TyBot! Hear me rawr! Also, I'm TyBot/ZammyBot on IRC. TyBot (talk) 01:33, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks both -- sannse (help forum | blog) 01:45, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Hair[edit source]

Hair was here. Hair 02:29, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Customisation[edit source]


can you please give me a quick explanation on how to customize my wikia's looks? For instance like the custom look, with the map in the background. I don't understand how to reach this level of customization? THank you!  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Purepot (talk).

Hi Purepot. There's some good help on this on our Community Wiki. You can start [[w:c:community:Help:Theme_designer|here]], then see pages linked from there for more detail. This wiki was probably themed with more advanced tools, but for most wikis Theme Designer is a good place to start.
By the way, it's best to use this page just for Runescape Wiki related issues :) You can message me [[w:c:community:Message_Wall:Sannse|on my Community Wiki message wall]] or on my talk page or message wall on your wiki. Or you can send questions and feedback to the whole Community Support Team by using our contact form (the same page is on your wiki). Hope that helps! -- sannse (help forum | blog) 22:21, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

#Arrr...[edit source]

Before I forget: HAPPY early BIRTHDAY :D MolMan 22:07, September 16, 2012 (UTC)


Thank you :) -- sannse (help forum | blog) 16:18, September 17, 2012 (UTC)

I heard it was your birthday![edit source]

Have a gigantic cake :D.HaidroH rune.pngEagle feather 3.pngCandle (blood red).png 1XqyDNM.png Crystal triskelion fragment 3.pngHazelmere's signet ring.png 22:40, September 18, 2012 (UTC) Cake detail.png

Don't fall for Haidro's tricks. As of this post, his birthday is in 3 days and he just expects to get an even bigger caek out of you by doing this. MolMan 22:43, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

Happy Bday![edit source]

Have a gigantic smile, combined with Haidro's Caek. — Jr Mime (talk) 22:46, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

Wink emoticon.svg

Yay caek and smiles! thanks both! -- sannse (help forum | blog) 18:28, September 21, 2012 (UTC)