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Where have all the Avas gone?

(Long time asking)

It appears as if removing Warden while someone has an ava out is a Bad Idea, since here are none in the pool right now. Rich Farmbrough, 00:59 20 January 2014 (UTC).

As usual I explained badly (or insufficiently). I had an Avatar out at round about the time of your post, it vanished, not in the usual "whoosh" manner. I assumed it had timed out, and visited the cit to re-summon. My working hypothesis is that you removed the right while I had the ava, and this expressed the AWOL ava bug, which we are all familiar with. Of course this may be wrong, if you wish we could experiment, either way it's not a big deal since its a very rare event, it is interesting though. Rich Farmbrough, 16:51 20 January 2014 (UTC).

Re:Hi

Haha, thank you!  :-D I never really thought of myself as having "gone away", though I don't think I've done a big edit for ages. Good to know someone still remembers me though.  :-) Leevclarke talk Max_logo_mini.png bulldog_puppy.png 10:52, January 20, 2014 (UTC)

RE

I heard you go to MIT? Is that true? If you see a tall black guy named Devin, can you tell him "hi"? MolMan 16:32, January 20, 2014 (UTC)

The fundamental theories behind a wiki are Be Bold and Ignore All Rules. MolMan 16:34, January 20, 2014 (UTC)
I plan to ignore that per RS:IAR. MolMan 16:39, January 20, 2014 (UTC)

RSW Clan Administrator Maturity

Dear Liquidhelium/Archive 23,

Recently, the maturity level of administrators has been called into question by some clanmates. We would like to remind everyone that as an RSW admin, you are a representative of both the clan and the wiki. Therefore, please remember to keep the clan chat a place for everyone to enjoy. We are not trying to be the "fun police." Rather, we want to make sure that everyone in the clan is respected. If you didn't see the recent thread, please reacquaint yourself with the clan chat rules.

With this in mind, there are a few specific behaviors that are troublesome. Clan administrators are meant to be players that other clanmates can trust to go to with issues. Please endeavor to maintain this trust. We would like you to please note the following points.

  • The pattern of joking about power abuse should stop. There should be no perception of power abuse in the clan.
  • Several clan rules now are pattered under the "accepted until someone requests the conversation to end." There have been several cases of users jokingly invoking this rule. Constantly "crying wolf" about this will make it much harder for a clanmate who legitimately wants an offensive conversation to stop to utilize the rule if he/she has seen us joking about it earlier.
    • If you see someone "crying wolf," please discourage the user from doing so.
    • Please do not "cry wolf" yourself.
    • If possible, please leave PM on so that other users can contact you privately if needed. We understand that sometimes you may not wish to do so, but please try to be available whenever possible.
  • Please try to show a little restraint with your language. There's nothing to say that you cannot use profanity, as long as the filter is respected, but some users have used it excessively. Some have also been a little too confrontational.
  • Some things have been said in the clan chat that have been reportable or mutable. Please avoid these. Check over the Rules of RuneScape to make sure that you do not break them, as they take precedence over our rules. A muted administrator is an ineffective administrator.
  • If there is a heated argument or conflict going on (not to be confused with a debate), please try to resolve and mediate it with class rather than exacerbating the issue.

We intend this to be a simple reminder for you to maintain a pleasant decorum in the clan. Thanks for being a part of the clan!

Best, --LiquidTalk and Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 03:13, January 21, 2014 (UTC)

Re:RSW Clan Administrator Maturity

Is this about my famous quote "You is ban" also why aren't you replying to my phone texts :( -- Recent uploads SpineTalkGuest book 03:31, January 21, 2014 (UTC)

RE:A quick note

Liquid, my comment wasn't intended just for you. It was to pretty much everyone since pretty much everyone complains about the current theme. I understand completely that not everyone (more like no one) is capable of coming up with a theme and figuring out the code to implement it. However, to anyone who has an idea, I urge them to get together with people who know what to do and come up with some examples. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 17:23, January 26, 2014 (UTC)

RE:RSW Clan Administrator Maturity

At first I was like "wtf did I do" until I realized you were posting that on the talk page of every admin.... Andrew talk 06:10, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Happy Birthday

Thanks Helium. I hope you are well. <3

Bonziiznob Talk

23:04, February 3, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Edit warring warning

I was trying not to edit war today. Which is actually why I asked for the protection on the disambig, to give everyone a chance to cool down and decide if the page conveyed the information accurately.

With IP83, I did go straight to his talk page immediately after the first undo to xp lamps. It's why I left such a succinct edit summary, because I had every intention of explaining it better on his talk page. After I figured out a better phrasing to convey the information correctly, then I changed it. Then, after a further edit by a third editor, I realised the phrasing was still faulty and so made the distinction between "SoF lamps" and "TH lamps" clearer. I forgot for a while that what is so super-clear and obvious to me is sometimes not so clear to other editors

On dragonbane bolts, I asked Spine to decide which version was better. I didn't intend the page to be protected, and it can probably be undone. I explained the page issue to to the other editor once I realised that he hadn't noticed that I'd only reformatted his information; I got the impression he thought I'd totally reverted it back to the state it was in before his edits.

I have tried asking third parties to step in. I have tried, and tried, and tried. Most of the time they never respond, or they log out of RuneScape immediately after receiving my pm. The only sysop I can consistently rely on to actually respond to a request for help is Ciph, and I know he cannot be called a neutral party when I am involved, so I don't ask him for anything other than page maintenance and anti-vandal issues.

I also know that I struggle with tone in messages. A lot of this ties back to not realising that what is obvious to me might not be so obvious to someone with their brain wired all correctly and stuff. And unless someone is willing to help me with talk page message phrasing, I can't say that I'll always judge it correctly. I am trying to get better, and I tried avoiding talk pages altogether, but that obviously isn't such a good idea.

tl;dr edit warring was not my intention, I forgot that I was seeing solutions that others probably weren't, I did use talk pages, immediately in the case of IP83, a third party has to be willing to help which they often aren't, and I know my tone sucks and it's a mental block that I trying to overcome. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 02:07, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

Mind me asking why? . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 15:51, February 11, 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, and you're right. I should be a nice person, I agree. But that discrepancy is really annoying to me. I hope you can understand (while not condoning it) :P . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 11:20, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

Hai

Haven't seen you on in awhile. Just wanted to add some graffiti to your talk page while you don't notice. Lol User:Exor Solieve 04:15, March 5, 2014 (UTC)

2014 RSW Family Photo

The 2014 RSW Family Photo is in! Feel free to check it here! See you all again next year, svco4bY.png3Gf5N2F.png 21:43, March 5, 2014 (UTC)

<3

<3 Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 23:44, March 5, 2014 (UTC)

Zamorak infobox

I don't know what you did [[:Template:Zamorak/Infobox|here]], but please revert it back or fix it or delete it or whatever. Thanks. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 17:21, March 29, 2014 (UTC)

How about you take care of it since you got involved? sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 17:52, March 30, 2014 (UTC)


Featured article

What is this monstrosity you have created mr helm? [1] Santa hat.png Powers38 おはようヾ(´・ω・`) 14:38, April 19, 2014 (UTC)

plz pay ur parking ticket soon

gonna have 2 tow ur car soon k Andrew talk 06:12, April 23, 2014 (UTC)

rules

[2] Could you update rule 9? :) Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 15:57, June 16, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 21:13, June 24, 2014 (UTC)

RE:First

Oh, when I'm on my literal deathbed, I'll be sure to vandalize the main page so everybody knows. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 07:26, June 26, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for leaving a note, by the way; I was worried I was going to end up without a talk page archive for 2014. That would have been sad. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 07:31, June 26, 2014 (UTC)

89

Except 89 doesn't need the randomness of being a normal number to contain those properties. MolMan 12:14, June 26, 2014 (UTC)

Hi

This happened. Just a reminder. Elune (talk) fetus is a good boy 14:09, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

yes

but it's so cute Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 07:20, July 12, 2014 (UTC)

Re: You're alive!

Alive? Who's alive? I'm not alive. — Enigma 17:53, July 23, 2014 (UTC)

OOOOooooOOOOOoooOOOOoooooOOOOooooooOOOOoooo — Enigma 00:46, July 24, 2014 (UTC)

RE

That was meant to elicit a reaction! You of all people though hahahahah. Sorry kevkev. Time to make it about apples! MolMan 11:14, August 18, 2014 (UTC)


1st

first cqm 20:40, 21 Aug 2014 (UTC) (UTC)

2nd

second Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 21:31, August 21, 2014 (UTC)

Grats

grats Raglough (talk) 09:16, August 22, 2014 (UTC)

Noob

noob - Korasi's sword.png Archmage Elune  TalkHS Void knight deflector.png fetus is my son and I love him. 21:18, August 27, 2014 (UTC)

Stuff

When are you normally online? Catch me ingame, there's something I'd like to discuss. Bluefire2  Choose OptionMy page Talk to me! Edit my sig pl0x Guestbook pl0xOil4 I made this 18:17, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

More convenient than you may think. I'm in Cambridge, MA at the moment, wanna meet up? I'm going to MIT today anyway... Bluefire2  Choose OptionMy page Talk to me! Edit my sig pl0x Guestbook pl0xOil4 I made this 10:09, October 14, 2014 (UTC)
Frown Bluefire2  Choose OptionMy page Talk to me! Edit my sig pl0x Guestbook pl0xOil4 I made this 03:02, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

200M magic

I wanna give you my final magic drop MolMan 02:15, October 22, 2014 (UTC)

Christmas event

You can still get all the Christmas cosmetics, or at least the cheery ones, by doing a spot of snowboarding. Takes less than an hour, I'd estimate. I did it, got the snowstormer thingy which is quite fancy in my opinion, and I only did that today. Might want to try it! Minnakht (talk) 12:49, December 31, 2014 (UTC)

Same-sex marriage

I support same-sex marriage.

Love, ʞooɔ 04:45, January 6, 2015 (UTC)

RFCCA

As someone who is very inactive in the CC, I feel the need to ask you to justify your closure of this thread. There is a huge amount of consensus for 5-x to receive back his admin rank, and most of the negative comments come from people who aren't even members of the clan. Bluefire2  Choose OptionMy page Talk to me! Edit my sig pl0x Guestbook pl0xOil4 I made this 11:27, January 9, 2015 (UTC)

I agree with Bloo. In addition, you closed a discussion which was still very much active. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 18:40, January 10, 2015 (UTC)
The request had reached the end of its fortnight run. Requests do not stay open indefinitely to serve the possibility that someone might want to add another comment. Ronan Talk 18:50, January 10, 2015 (UTC)
Discussion was still going on. Liquid just killed that. He should have extended the discussion period. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 18:53, January 10, 2015 (UTC)
liquid y do u do all of the things wrong sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 19:48, January 10, 2015 (UTC)
The discussion had exhausted basically all of the relevant points. I did not think that there was something new that someone could have brought up to change the course of the discussion. --LiquidTalk 23:40, January 10, 2015 (UTC)
What made you think there was no consensus? sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 23:51, January 10, 2015 (UTC)
See response on bloo's talk page. --LiquidTalk 23:59, January 10, 2015 (UTC)

How was there "sufficient hesitation"? There were two people who said "not yet", versus eleven who said "yes". I know we don't just tally votes, but this is ridiculous. You should have at least given the discussion more time. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 10:37, January 11, 2015 (UTC)

Like I said in my response, I treated everyone who said that he/she would prefer waiting for the discussion to end as a not yet. I also ran this by two others before closing, and they agreed with the closure. --LiquidTalk 21:10, January 11, 2015 (UTC)
I feel that that is a poor stance given that he has little to nothing to do with the thread. The "not yet" voters mainly focused on the fact that there was too much going on rather than 5-x not being ready yet, since he was not involved in the YG thread. Also, didn't he leave before all of this started? I don't see how he can be held in the same light as the others who left during the madness. In addition to their arguments being weak, the opposers seemed to be biased and their arguments were rebuked. If anything, the deadline should have been extended with a note on why & where the discussion should have gone from there, imo. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 21:19, January 11, 2015 (UTC)
I think that it was a good argument, given that the events discussed there affected 5-x, and his actions were part of the thread. Even if we accept that the not yets were focused primarily on there being too much going on, I would still argue that it is not a weak argument given that said users would want to evaluate future RfCCAs in the context of the results of the clan chat discussion. I agree that some opposers were biased, and I gave much less weight to those arguments. However, I do not believe that the majority of these users were biased. --LiquidTalk 00:35, January 12, 2015 (UTC)
Who are the two people you asked? Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 09:11, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
I poked Gareth and Cqm. --LiquidTalk 16:10, January 13, 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I am sorry to bring this up again but I still feel unhappy about the way this thread was closed. I was one of the people that argued that this rfcca should not take place until after the thread about the cc was closed (on that thread). I did not suggest this because of my opinion about 5-x’ suitability to be a clan admin, rather I thought that the outcomes of the cc thread might influence how the rfcca would be run and throw up information that would be relevant to the rfcca. So I’m disappointed that this has been taken to mean that my position was “not yet” and then assumed to mean that I would oppose 5-x becoming cc admin. I think some of the other people who argued this may also feel unhappy about the inferences made from their arguments.

If you do not look at the “not yets” and people concerned about the rfcca being run while the cc thread was still open, there are only a few people who opposed 5-x becoming an admin again. As you said yourself, some of the arguments made by people opposing were not very convincing and the people who made them seemed to be biased. There were also some sincere and relevant concerns raised, though there were only a few of these. Because of this I am not convinced that there was enough reason to close the thread as having no consensus. I am not assuming that you did so consciously, but I think you (and also Gaz and Cqm) may have let your own opinions influence the way that the thread was closed. I would like to see the rfcca either be re-opened to allow more discussion (if you, Gaz or Cqm have concerns that you think are relevant then I would gladly see them discussed) or be re-closed by someone else.

Thanks Magic logs detail.pngIsobelJTalk page 13:19, January 17, 2015 (UTC)

My understanding is that people usually take the stance “not now” if they believe that a candidate is not ready to receive a rank at the moment. This is considerably different to people wanting to wait because they are concerned about the current state of the clan. This first I would consider sufficient hesitation, while the second I think should have been handled differently. You have discussed this several times now, but as I pointed out in my first post I was not happy with the way the rfcca was closed (having read your responses to other people about this). After your response directly to me I’m still not convinced of how you took the decision to close it as having no consensus. I could talk to another admin about re-opening or re-closing the rfcca and I will do this if you will not consider doing anything about this. However it’s disappointing that you will not consider making changes yourself, after having several people question the decision that you’ve made. Magic logs detail.pngIsobelJTalk page 10:13, January 18, 2015 (UTC)

Same-sex Rfccas

I support same-sex RFCCA Closures.

Love, Korasi's sword.png Archmage Elune  TalkHS Void knight deflector.png fetus is my son and I love him. 00:48, January 11, 2015 (UTC)

Support Slayer helmet (c).pngImmo Voted Worst Wikian 2013 Slayer cape (t).png 00:50, January 11, 2015 (UTC)

I marry same-support sex. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 00:54, January 11, 2015 (UTC)

RE

Cool, but it's not like I'd leave the house to see you.

I heard Massachusetts literally turned into snow. MolMan 18:18, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

Hey mate, hope you are well

On this day, at this time, I achieved 99 Construction. Raglough (talk) 04:00, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Marijuana

Is legal in DC. Might hit home soon. Maybe you and I can light up a doobie in Baltimore one day. MolMan 23:10, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

not surprising at all that liquidhelm is doing the marijuanas Ajraddatz (Talk) 17:38, March 22, 2015 (UTC)
did you know bill clinton did the marijuanas --Iiii I I I 17:40, March 22, 2015 (UTC)
i bet he was blazing it up with helm and monica Ajraddatz (Talk) 17:43, March 22, 2015 (UTC)
guys gtfo we're 420 together get ur own doobies MolMan 17:44, March 22, 2015 (UTC)
you all gtfo from my talk page. especially you, ajrabbitz --LiquidTalk 15:09, March 23, 2015 (UTC)
wow. nice to see you too. btw elune made some nice userbox i thought you might like it: User:Elune Anzu/Userbox/420 for immediate publishing on your userpage :D Ajraddatz (Talk) 05:25, April 14, 2015 (UTC)

Rawr

Ohai!

Bonziiznob Talk

22:10, April 19, 2015 (UTC)

Say hi to everyone for me <3 22:28, April 19, 2015 (UTC)

Re:Warning

I am nice, but this one had pmed me and flamed at me after tellinghim I will provide him with information, and continue not to leave me alone when I asked him to stop. I accept the warning, And I do understand, but do inform him that editing the page just because he showed information. I also did nothing against him if it was on the Edit summery, I thought I had deleted it into something else, and I do apologies to that. Thank you, and please keep an eye on The Godless page incase it goes into unblock, as The Mol Man also reverted the page before I did anything, (as  Ireverted it once) Other people will jump intto it soon.Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 04:15, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

I do have some concerns of course I do not wish to put it in here, May I go ahead and Pm you in game? or would you have me post it here?Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 14:29, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Log in

You might want to confirm this edit is you. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 08:57, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Slipping standards, tsk

Check your userpage! The Liquid I know would never have left it in a state of disrepair like that. Ronan Talk 21:40, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

blocked

Hi, well my concern came in now, may I know why I was blocked? I was given no warning, or notification about it, may I know why??Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 21:41, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

deletion of talk page

The talk page you deleted had a valid message on it, you are a bad DDD violater :(. — Jr Mime (talk) [VSTF] 00:13, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

hi

Original video svco4bY.png3Gf5N2F.png 13:44, July 14, 2015 (UTC)

Closure

Can you check over Talk:The Godless for consensus? The users involved are stubborn and won't come to a neutral admin. Thanks, Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 18:24, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

It has come to a consensus and should be righted based on these statements: Kinglink: " Vorago tried to do this alone" and "it only proved that each factions were allied.", and by Kane: "Scopulus acted as representative of both Vorago and the Godless on a temporary basis" And by myself stating that Vorago was only a temporary ally and by in game dialog from Scopulus, Vorago, Moia, and Kamiee.Kcin2424 (talk) 18:43, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

Re: :(

Well, it is the more logical redirect for this wiki. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 13:51, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

50,000 edits

This isn't my 50,000th edit, but close enough --Iiii I I I 22:21, August 5, 2015 (UTC)


Boo

I got an email haha. I do miss this place. One day I'll come back! Santa hat.png Powers38 おはようヾ(´・ω・`) 11:36, August 27, 2015 (UTC)

Closure

I had a very valid point. Why was this not addressed? MolMan 02:25, August 28, 2015 (UTC)

Same-sex marriage

I support same-sex marriage.

Love, ʞooɔ 16:43, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Marijuana

It's legal in DC now, let's get together and blaze it with Clinton.

Love, Korasi's sword.png Archmage Elune  TalkHS Void knight deflector.png fetus is my son and I love him. 16:06, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

Clan chat thread

Thanks, I'll get on with rewriting the pages. If I do anything wrong, let me know. Magic logs detail.pngIsobelJTalk page 14:05, November 6, 2015 (UTC)

please fix

please fix:

--Iiii I I I 06:34, November 12, 2015 (UTC)

You're invited!

To my 120 Runecrafting party. It's finally happening.

Where?

Runecrafting Guild

What world?

World 46

When?

~ US ~

PST: 2:00 PM on 5-Dec
MST: 3:00 PM on 5-Dec
CST: 4:00 PM on 5-Dec
EST: 5:00PM on 5-Dec

~ Europe ~

UTC/GMT: 10:00PM on 5-Dec
BST: 11:00 PM on 5-Dec

~ Australia ~

AWST: 6:00 AM on 6-Dec
ACST: 7:30 AM on 6-Dec
AEST: 8:00 AM on 6-Dec
ACDT: 8:30 AM on 6-Dec
AEDT: 9:00 AM on 6-Dec

Thanks for coming if you can, Hailfire boots.pngBren 04:06, November 29, 2015 (UTC)

Edit: Change of date, also fixed some Australian timezones from PM to AM. Hailfire boots.pngBren 22:14, December 3, 2015 (UTC)

You closed the dtm thread and therefore ruined the wiki

Frown Korasi's sword.png Archmage Elune  TalkHS Void knight deflector.png fetus is my son and I love him. 23:33, December 12, 2015 (UTC)