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Current talk page Current talk page
List of old achieves
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First Archive First Archive - 2011
Archived on: 20:33 GMT, 25th May 2013
Second Archive Second Archive - 2012
Archived on: 20:38 GMT, 25th May 2013
Third Archive Third Archive - 2013
Created on: 20:42 GMT, 25th May 2013

Signature[edit source]

Your signature failed. Special:Diff/3960080/6820978Jr Mime (talk) 13:28, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

Put exactly this in your Preferences -> Signature -> Custom signature:
{{subst:#ifexist:Template:Signatures/Leon Art|{{subst:Nosubst|Signatures/Leon Art}}| [[User:Leon Art|Leon Art]] ([[User talk:Leon Art|talk]])}}
Thx, — Jr Mime (talk) 14:38, December 10, 2012 (UTC)
Check the "I want to use wiki-text in my signature" box right under it. — Jr Mime (talk) 15:23, December 10, 2012 (UTC)
Leon, did you add the code to your preferences? Your signature is still crapped up! — Jr Mime (talk) 15:56, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, print screen it and Copy paste the code under (the signature code). — Jr Mime (talk) 17:01, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
Ah! Are you using visual editor or source mode? — Jr Mime (talk) 17:09, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
Put this in signature, check the box right under:
{{subst:#ifexist:Template:Signatures/Leon Art|{{subst:Nosubst|Signatures/Leon Art}}|[[User:Leon Art|Leon Art]] ([[User talk:Leon Art|talk]])}}
Jr Mime (talk) 17:51, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
Also, don't upload personal pictures to the wiki, upload them at http://imgur.com please! — Jr Mime (talk) 17:59, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
Remove the <nowiki> tags. — Jr Mime (talk) 18:05, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
Print screen it again, and upload at imgur please. — Jr Mime (talk) 18:11, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
Check the "I want to use wikitext in my signature" box. — Jr Mime (talk) 18:33, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
Yay! It works! Your welcome! :) — Jr Mime (talk) 18:51, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Signature broken[edit source]

Just wanted to inform that your signature looks broken somehow... 5-x Talk 20:14, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

Re:editing pop standard portal[edit source]

Sure thing! I added Category:Player-owned port and Category:Scenery images to both, because that's what they are. I also added Template:Trans to mark them as needing transparency. Blaze_fire.png12.png 20:13, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

Icefiends Ghorrock Weakness[edit source]

Hey, I was just at the icefiends at Ghorrock last night and their weakness is bolts, not crush. Rune full helm (Guthix).pngJohnny CashGuthix cape.png 15:45, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Template help[edit source]

I'm not quite sure what just happened in chat, but talk pages aren't used all that much these days. If no one spots in in Recent Chnages who can help you, it goes unnoticed. I'd recommend RuneScape:User help - it suffers from the same lack of noticability, but a few of us check there every now and then to see if we can help out. cqm 15:17, 18 Jan 2013 (UTC) (UTC)

Was it not you asking about something with {{Infobox Bonuses Beta}}? cqm 16:33, 18 Jan 2013 (UTC) (UTC)

PoP Random Event rewards[edit source]

The table contains less information than the list that you replaced. You deleted useful information that people have asked for in order to fit it into a table. A table is not a good format for explaining what the rewards do. Please change it back. Shogo Yahagi (talk) 19:57, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

What would be the point of having a table and a bulleted list? Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 20:04, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

Yo, I don't know what's going on but please stop reverting to your version. You all are on the brink of RS:3RR. Talk it out on your talk pages and stop edit warring. Once you all reach a decision, then change the page to whatever you all agree on. However, do not continue to revert because you're not getting a valid reason for their stances. Talk it out. Do not edit war. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 16:54, January 30, 2013 (UTC)

Except that you're changing it back too. Just stop. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 17:22, January 30, 2013 (UTC)
By the way, if you don't mind me asking, why is it you go after Ansela (who was trying to prevent an all out edit war) and not talk about it with Shogo Yahagi (the one who was reverting your edits)? Also, calling Ansela childish for protecting the page will get you nowhere and will only exacerbate the conflict What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 17:45, January 30, 2013 (UTC)
She was merely trying to prevent an all out blown war that would result in you and Shogo being blocked for violating RS:3RR. I do not see that as childish, but rather taking action to ensure that the fighting does not continue. She did not use the protect tool to ensure what she wanted happened. Also, what was to stop you from asking Shogo on their talk page why they were undoing your edits? It is not an admin's responsibility to settle disputes in edit wars, but rather that of the disputers ie you and Shogo What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 18:15, January 30, 2013 (UTC)
Hold up. Don't try to blame this on me. I did try to discuss this and I was ignored. I posted on his talk page the very first time he reverted my changes to try to avoid exactly this situation.
On another PoP talk page, someone mentioned that they had been waiting to use their Adventurer rerolls because they thought they would cancel voyages in progress. I thought that information was already on the page, so I checked the page and was going to add it. I found that the list of rewards had been changed into a one-item list and a table which contained inaccurate information. I changed it back to a list, made the corrections, and added the missing information rather than adding a footnote to the table that would be longer than the table itself. When I saw shortly thereafter that it had been changed back, I posted to his talk page rather than make any further changes, as you can see above. I have reverted his changes exactly once, because he had reintroduced errors to the page, messed up the formatting of the other table on the page, and more importantly, had already been told by an admin to leave it the way it was. Shogo Yahagi (talk) 18:56, January 30, 2013 (UTC)
The only one I see being childish here is you, and your inability to see any reasoning beyond your own. She put it back to the previous version because she thought that version was better and she protected it to prevent an edit war. That is not being childish. What is being childish is refusing to try and understand why others don't agree with you and writing their actions off as childish, and claiming that you're the only one trying to make a discussion in a space that is intended to have a brief summary, not a discussion, while completely ignoring attempts to discuss the issue. Just take a look at the first part of this discussion to see what you ignored What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 21:30, January 30, 2013 (UTC)
Hi, Leon. Thanks for responding on my talk page. I've placed a list of the main points there. Sorry I didn't give you a more clear explanation in the summary, but the R3 policy said something about not trying to settle differences of opinion through the summary info, and I wasn't sure how much I could put there. Shogo Yahagi (talk) 21:48, January 30, 2013 (UTC)
(Resetting indent). I mocked up a possible compromise table. It can be found here. Still needs some work, my coding skills aren't best, but I'm trying to get someone on that. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 22:43, January 30, 2013 (UTC)

To go back to what I was saying earlier - it doesn't matter if you think you're right or wrong. Do not break RS:3RR or you will be blocked. If you get into a predicament like this again, simply leave the person a message. Don't continue to revert, ever. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 01:10, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Zaros' alignment[edit source]

You are right about the part of Control and Manipulation, I understood that they said that manipulation, emptiness etc. all are a part of control, but oh well, thanks for correcting me, you made me less confused :). Zanovar (talk) 13:07, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

FYI[edit source]

[[wikipedia:Page name|link text]] We have that coding for wikipedia links. Use it instead of a url. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 17:03, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Try and talk to them. Pop into [[Special:Chat]] and see if they are in there, maybe. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 17:18, February 6, 2013 (UTC)
One thing to remember is that admins are usually watching, especially during UTC afternoon time. They'll step in when they think it's necessary. You could always leave a message for one if you think they need to step in and haven't already. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 20:56, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Warning[edit source]

Funny, you say not everyone is American, yet you clearly assume I am. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 18:30, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

Ability book & Alchemy spells[edit source]

Please check and make sure you're not creating double redirects when you move pages. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 07:19, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

When you want to move a page, go to Special:WhatLinksHere and it will list all pages that link to the article you're on, including redirects. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 22:22, February 17, 2013 (UTC)
If you don't, I will smite you. ^-^ Alternatively, you could check Special:DoubleRedirects or Special:BrokenRedirects. Those are good pages for checking basic maintenance tasks. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 22:40, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Balmungs[edit source]

I'm pretty certain that the mythological Balmung not being an axe is evident in the phrase "magical sword", and the sword bit does not need any special emphasis. This isn't a Year 1 reading assignment where the important words are bolded to draw attention to them. And 3RR is only relevant once three edits are reached; we only have two each today. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 13:21, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

Re: PoP[edit source]

Speculation is speculation. Take it to the article's talk page, where there's already a section on max level. --Saftzie (talk) 13:59, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

No. Your speculation is speculation, no matter how many "disclaimers" you want to put on it. Really, take it to the talk page for the article. --Saftzie (talk) 16:25, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

Yo. Until we can prove they cap at 10 or any certain number, it's best to leave the page as is, which gracefully neglects to mention any level caps for crew members. If you'd like to put a cap notification there, please show some sort of source or evidence of 10 being a cap. Thanks, Achievements Coelacanth0794 Talk Contribs 17:25, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

Player-owned port/Ship updates[edit source]

That is all. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 13:32, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Outside images[edit source]

When taking images from sources outside of the game, such as official videos and news posts, remember to tag them with the Fair use template. The only exception is if they are taken from the RuneScape Bestiary, where you should use the Bestiary template instead. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 18:18, February 28, 2013 (UTC)

Also, if you don't find a place for [[:File:Bandos_Face.png|this]] by 14:00 UTC, it's getting deleted. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 12:23, March 1, 2013 (UTC)
Adding templates is {{fair use}}, but it can go into the upload summary/description box if it's a brand new file, or edit the page if it's replacing an older file. And only admin+ can delete files/pages, so I'll get on that now. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 12:57, March 1, 2013 (UTC)

Dragonfire shield edits[edit source]

13:52 Dragonfire shield (magic)‎ (diff | hist) . . (+777)‎ . . Leon Art (Talk | contribs) (Expanded) [rollback]

YOU WIN! Maxgold.png MolMan 13:59, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

Spelling[edit source]

Information icon.svg  Hello, Leon Art. Your recent edit used American English. Per the style guide, British English should be used in articles, so please try to adhere to these guidelines in subsequent edits. Thanks. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 11:24, March 13, 2013 (UTC)

Double redirect[edit source]

The page is located at Elder Artefacts, not at Elder Weapons. The latter is a redirect to the former. Your continually redirecting it to the latter is creating a double redirect. You can add the section link with # yourself, but leave it directing to artefact. MolMan 19:13, March 14, 2013 (UTC)

this[edit source]

The next time a user is blatantly vandalizing, please give them a warning. MolMan 15:51, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

no MolMan 16:38, March 16, 2013 (UTC)
Sorry. That message was actually a joke where I was poking fun at my own mistake. Do you seriously not understand? MolMan 16:49, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

Bandos' Gender[edit source]

In the new lore for Tribute to Guthix (which you can see in the forum thread QFC 15-16-643-64570987), there is a description of a female, boar-like god of war, who orcs followed, which the Naragi called Tuska. She had one eye destroyed, and then Guthix took out the other with his god-weapon. In The Origins of Gielinor, we see Saradomin fighting a boar-like god with ruined eyes who was confirmed to be Bandos, a god of war, who orcs follow. --Whyareall (talk) 18:08, March 18, 2013 (UTC)

  • EDIT: QFC 15-16-330-64612578 confirms that they are different. --Whyareall (talk) 18:12, March 18, 2013 (UTC)
    • Yes, I changed my mind. It was based on the assumption that Bandos was Tuska, which was proven wrong. --Whyareall (talk) 09:43, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

Re:[edit source]

I'm attempting to talk about it here. Law rune.png Samberen Nature rune.png 13:51, March 22, 2013 (UTC)

Signature[edit source]

Hi again Leon. Can you do the following, so you don't subst your signature? Change what ever code you have in your preferences for your signature to this code:

{{subst:#ifexist:Template:Signatures/Leon Art|{{subst:Nosubst|Template:Signatures/Leon Art}}|— [[User:Leon Art|Leon Art]] ([[User talk:Leon Art|talk]])}}

Thanks, — Jr Mime (talk) 15:03, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

I actually use an easier method, as I can't rely on {{nosubst}} being on every wiki.
Create Template:Signatures/Leon Art/1 with {{Template:Signatures/Leon Art}} and alter your signature in your preferences to be {{#ifexist:Template:Signatures/Leon Art/1|{{subst:Template:Signatures/Leon Art/1}}|— [[User:Leon Art|Leon Art]] ([[User talk:Leon Art|talk]])}}
The problem is that your preferences are set to put the content of the template your using as your sig onto the page when you sign. So instead of having {{User:Cåm/Signature}} put onto the page, you get what's in the page instead. It sux, no? cqm 12:46, 19 Apr 2013 (UTC) (UTC)
Ya. If u edit my talk page, check the end, you will see whole signature code. nosubst always worked on any wiki for me. — Jr Mime (talk) 13:42, April 19, 2013 (UTC) <-- SEE!
This is what it used to say: {{SUBST:Signatures/Leon_Art}}, now I used Muud's suggestion. . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 08:57, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

Infobox Seed[edit source]

Are you going to use this template? It's just sitting there unused. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 14:18, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

RE[edit source]

Because it was a relatively big part of combat before the updates. You should either start an RfD for them, or find a new home to house the short paragraphs and redirect those pages. MolMan 19:54, April 20, 2013 (UTC)

RuneScape:Requests for deletion has instructions. MolMan 17:34, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

Sig[edit source]

Dude, your sig is still subst-ing onto pages, do the stuff Muud suggested up ^there somewhere again. Real Nub 19:58, April 20, 2013 (UTC)

USA Userbox[edit source]

Don't change publicly used userboxes to use as your soapbox, please. ɳex undique 19:38, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

RS:3RR[edit source]

Remember that? Doesn't look like it to me.

FYI, your reverts back to your version kept breaking my attempts to fix it. And your grammar still sucks. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 14:10, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

RE:asasd[edit source]

It has been stated in the edit summary several times what is wrong with it: it is too vague a reference. Also as you have violated RS:3RR I have protected the page to prevent further edit warring. Please use the talk pages to solve this dispute What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 16:04, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

Oh I believe that the evil twin folk tale inspired the event, but that does not mean that any future references are a reference to the previous one, but rather to the original. Also, I checked, and nowhere did anybody use the reason of adminship for reverting your versions. In fact they used the exact same reason that I did: that it's too vague a reference to be considered What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 16:11, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
Admins are just as responsible as anybody else for maintaining policy. Also, from checking the page history, you were the only one actually breaking policy. Also, Ansela did attempt to use talk pages (admittedly her attempt was rather poor at solving the issue). As for the vagueness: it has nothing to do with how you are putting it. The link is just too vague while there is a stronger and therefore more likely reference. She attempted to compromise while you have made no attempt whatsoever at doing so, instead just attacking anybody who disagrees with you. And please provide links for where adminship was used as a reason for reverting your edit, cause I cannot see any What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 16:26, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

Armadyl[edit source]

Where does it state that he's the god of supreme justice, as opposed to just law and justice? What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 16:40, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

I'm afraid that we cannot use that source sorry What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 17:02, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

long-ass title[edit source]

I'm very tired and not really in the mood for reverting all your edits regarding the alleged non-canonicity of god letters so I'm here instead asking for the source saying god letter are not canon

Headers have no character limit; isn't that nice?
But yeah, source please. cqm 00:41, 23 Apr 2013 (UTC) (UTC)
Little trick I picked up from [[w:c:uncyc|Uncyclopedia]], where posting massive headers like that in forum discussions is perfectly acceptable Wink I'm also kind of lazy after a 12 hour shift.
On one edit: the removal of Guthix finding Gielinor 12000 years ago, if you think about it, it kind of fits. I'm not entirely sure where the length of the ages was stated (possibly the old game guide) but it sounds about right to me. cqm 08:31, 23 Apr 2013 (UTC) (UTC)

Re:Freneskae shmurf[edit source]

It was stated in an interview with Ossy on "RuneZone", whatever that may be. The entire clan was talking about it, as well as threads on our clan forums. Anyway, I can't help you find the video - since I haven't found it myself yet. I think it was on a radio of sorts..? User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 17:59, April 23, 2013 (UTC)

I believe a transcript is on its way. In the mean time, listen to the Mendel Song. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 18:18, April 23, 2013 (UTC)
Dunno. I assume it will be posted on the RSOF and/or the Scrying Pool forums. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 18:44, April 23, 2013 (UTC)
Okays, I will. ^_^ User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 09:48, April 24, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Infobox Seed[edit source]

Hey, no problem. But you gotta thank Moley for the code. :P Alchez 14:40, April 25, 2013 (UTC)

Gods letter.[edit source]

Seems peopel are thinking, "some" of the gods letter are part of the lore, which is not, I checked at Runescape website, It no longer is. Help me out at the Gods talk page, and Guthix talk page (I made topics) Kinglink15 (talk) 19:18, April 25, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not involved in this edit war... MolMan 20:10, April 25, 2013 (UTC)

You sure?[edit source]

Wikipedia and IMDb both say the James Cameron film was released in '09, and the Elemental Workshop IV quest was released on 1 March 2011. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 18:20, April 26, 2013 (UTC)

Ms... 18:29, April 26, 2013 (UTC)

RE:[edit source]

Since when have messages that have been left on Ansela's talk page been aimed at you? What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 20:05, April 26, 2013 (UTC)

Re:(Template:)Experience boosting sets[edit source]

Experience boosting items? Experience boosters? Then the skill pendants can be added as well. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 08:17, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

Well, I wouldn't mind the Yaktwee Stick and Witchdoctor gear being added to a third category (we'd have SoF, minigames and miscellaneous), but then we'd also have to add pendants, clan rings, etc. and rename the template "Experience boosting items". User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 08:23, April 27, 2013 (UTC)
I know, but as I said: don't use the category as the defining variable, use the 5%exp boost. Clan rings boost 45%(?), pendants boost 50% and 100%, Hati and Sköl boost 100%. All the items/completed sets in we're talking about boost 5%.... that's distinct, and that's what I'm referring to. . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 08:58, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Elder Artefacts[edit source]

The thing is they're NEVER referred to as "The Elder X". Not once. The Staff of Armadyl is ALWAYS referred to as The Staff of Armadyl or just the "Staff". That's its official name. Same for the Stone of Jas. Same for the other items. We should use their official, canon names, not ones that "sound logical". Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 16:12, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

It's still officially called the Staff of Armadyl, even if that isn't its true name. A lot more people know what the Staff of Armadyl is compared to "The Elder Staff" (Which is it is NEVER once referred to as). We shouldn't be using fanon names tbh. --Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 16:34, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Seren[edit source]

In the god page some one put " It was also discovered that Guthix came to her homeworld before the first age, while he was looking for the Perfect World." should we leave it to that, or remove it due to no proof. (Unless there is proof)Kinglink15 (talk) 20:45, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

Any reason why?[edit source]

Why did you do this? Just wondering../bren/tc 21:34, May 2, 2013 (UTC)

Uhm, the original images that were there before were the same size to one another. Why should the icons be smaller? o.O/bren/tc 12:50, May 3, 2013 (UTC)
I asked you before to propose this on the talk page of the template. Don't revert it because you think your version looks better./bren/tc 23:01, May 3, 2013 (UTC)

Religion[edit source]

I'm guessing you missed the some of the pms I sent you.

In relation to drawing parallels between irl religion and in game religion, it complicated and can cause offence. This only applies to modern religion though. No one can deny the similarities between the Desert Pantheon and the Ancient Eqyptian religion, and more importantly because it's not been used for millenia it's not going to cause offence. cqm 19:04, 3 May 2013 (UTC) (UTC)

Crown (Elder Artefact)[edit source]

Help me out here if you can my friend, I am sending this to you because i seem to be geting in a depate with Hallowland, She, if you check my talk page, claims that Fiara was made during the gods war, but proof was shown she was made after it, the end of the third age, which was when Guthix was awake, and made his guardians at some point before sleeping. She claims that Fiara Post over teh hedge letter meant the stone, but as we know, she was given power by guthix to be a guardian way before the cave was assigned to her. Saradomin was known to have the stone for a long time, until he lost it to Zamorak somehow, she still seems to think she is right, and I could use help to end this debate. If you need to review some facts, please do so. Kinglink15 (talk) 20:55, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

Tackle box[edit source]

A common file is transcluded in several articles so that info only has to be maintained in one article. See [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Tackle box/Slots|WhatLinksHere/Tackle_box/Slots] --Saftzie (talk) 16:35, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Teaser hint images[edit source]

I found those last two recent image hints on their official ow.ly page here: http://ow.ly/user/runescape. They would then be used on their official facebook/twitter pages within a day or two after being uploaded there. pjJ4pBM.png Abyssal vine whip.png 14:08, May 10, 2013 (UTC)

Nah, sometimes the images shown are bits of art drawn up by someone else that they decided to mention on facebook or twitter. pjJ4pBM.png Abyssal vine whip.png 18:12, May 10, 2013 (UTC)

User talk:31.13.15.117#Azzy[edit source]

∿∿∿∿∿∿∿∿∿ MolMan 14:37, May 11, 2013 (UTC)

Re:The reason I use NOTOC on my talk page[edit source]

Tbh, I've never really played with navboxes much, I just played around with it, copying bits and pieces from other working bits of it. There's still a weird gap at the bottom (like 1-2 pixels) that's annoying me, but it seems to be a navbox issue in general. Stick it on my to do list ;)

I like having them in groups. I don't think there's any real guidelines on it, but it just looks neater having them separated/grouped where possible. I'm not convinced on the "Younger gods" title-header-thing, but due to a lack of better phrase it illustrates the difference. cqm 22:02, 14 May 2013 (UTC) (UTC)

Re:Ga'al[edit source]

No. It's just fun. FUN FUN FUN. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 13:45, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Challem[edit source]

No idea. Is there a new episode? I was just wondering. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 13:01, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

...I know all that, I was just asking whether it's been released already... :P We can only use the episodes as a refernce using the {{atl podcast|episode #}} template. However, due to the spam filter, we have to add each episode manually - Ty does that. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 13:20, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

Jas Gender[edit source]

Hey mate, Just asking, where did it say Jas is a women? Like, was it in the nwe runezone interview? or what?66.229.206.111 13:39, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

Jas' singular gender[edit source]

Jas#Gender Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 10:41, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

We don't know whether Jas is male or female (Jas#Gender). Thus Jas should be referred to as "they". That is the singular neuter from when the gender is unknown/irrelevant/absent. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 11:27, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

God symbols[edit source]

Making the symbols in the infobox |75px stretches the cell weirdly. Bigger isn't always better. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 06:32, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Het[edit source]

Tumeken had a dream. Het was human. Because gods can dream about humans. Bad Tumeken! User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 15:37, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

User:Fswe1/Archive thingy User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 16:37, May 25, 2013 (UTC)
Try copypasting the base code then decorating as you please? User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 18:04, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

RE:[edit source]

Ha ha, better late than never, eh? =D Looking at the welcome, something must have gone wrong that day, most of the message is cut out! 222 talk 03:33, May 26, 2013 (UTC)

Re:5th (although that was 4th)[edit source]

Yes, I agree with your point about Tuska's godhood. About Zaros' godhood, Mod Mark said that in his friend chat channel at march 26th if I'm not wrong. I don't have the exact quote but I have fragments that came after his statement. After that, he stated that Zaros could control a god like a puppet, even if they had a godsword (with a tone of humor as he was talking to the community). Here is the link to this statement: http://i.imgur.com/DeOmFhR . Thanks for coming to discuss and not despairingly reverting everything, you are one of the few that do that. Magpie.pngHallowlandtalkWoodcutting-icon.png 14:55, May 26, 2013 (UTC)

Skargaroth[edit source]

Skargaroth not wanting to be worshipped isn't mentioned in the memories whatsoever, only Tuska. The description of Skargaroth searching for battles likewise seems to be describing Tuska. Looking at a transcript of the first podcast, Tuska and Skargaroth are only mentioned once, and that's only to say they don't have god emissaries. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 17:03, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

It definitely isn't in Above the Lore. I'll remove it from the page until you can provide a source. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 08:07, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Moia[edit source]

Please don't undo edits when you are unaware of policies regarding the offending content which was removed. Thanks, Suppa chuppa Talk 04:14, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

Sure, I probably should have explained in more detail. Our trivia policy has general guidelines for acceptable and unacceptable trivia. Despite the heading "trivia," minor glitches and miscellaneous facts are generally not allowed in the section. Suppa chuppa Talk 16:31, May 28, 2013 (UTC)
The best feature (in my opinion) of rc patrol is the ability to use keyboard shortcuts. The shortcuts aren't documented though, which I guess they probably should be. I use it to go through all IP edits that happened during the day. I'll usually select 100 edits, all namespaces, and click the checkbox for anonymous edits. When I click submit, I'll have a list of the last 100 IP edits. If I use the left and right arrow keys in the command textbox, I can easily navigate back and forth between edits. The edits start with the earliest, so I can just press the right arrow key to go through the edits that happened during the day. If I see an edit that was vandalism, I can press 'r' to revert it quickly. If the edit wasn't the last revision on the page, I can press 'c' to see what changes have been made since then. Some other shortcuts are 'w' to warn the user with a dropdown list of templates, 'u' to undo the edit (you can provide a reason), and 'b' to block. Basically, I can go through hundreds of edits in just a couple of minutes with it, easily reverting any vandalism that was uncaught. Hope this makes sense. Suppa chuppa Talk 22:31, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Tuska's Race[edit source]

Race is for what they were originally, before they became a god. We don't know if she was always a boar-like creature, all we know is she was a boar-like creature when Guthix encountered her. For all we know, she could have been a bird-like thing that liked battle and one day ate an elder artefact, becoming a god, and then chose to adopt a form suited to her interest in battle. This wiki is not the place for speculation. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 12:17, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

Just because it's highly likely doesn't make it confirmed. Even if it is highly likely, we shouldn't present it as fact. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 12:29, May 28, 2013 (UTC)
Also, boar-like isn't a race, it's a description of her physical appearance. That's not what the sction is for. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 12:31, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

Alignment to philosophy[edit source]

Saradomin's Philosophy[edit source]

Seems some FWE1 doesn't want it to be light, like his Emissary stated, because anotehr god "owns" Light Philosophy. I made a talk page article on Saradomin, talk in it if you wish.Kinglink15 (talk) 16:48, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

WE are talking in there about his philosophy his Emissary stated his new one, She said "Light and Order." If you agree with me or not please go to Saradomin talk page.Kinglink15 (talk) 10:29, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

I don't see why. My latest edit combined the views of both discussing parties, so it should be solved now. Smile User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 14:17, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

Re:God's template[edit source]

Because we don't need endless navboxes. Navboxes, unlike articles, are for navigating easily between articles of similar nature/contents, and as such should be to the point. Adding a cat who claims to be Zaros or a Mahjarrat whom an insane housemaid who miraculously got stuck in the Shadow Realm claims to be a god doesn't really add. We might as well add Lucien and the Dragonkin too. In fact, they are actually confirmed to be nearing godhood. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 14:28, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

Uhm... We KNOW that Saradomin is the god of all three things. I don't see how adding all three to the infobox AND lead sentence could cause any harm, as it satisfies both parties. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 14:34, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
If an emissary doesn't say he is the god of wisdom it doesn't mean he isn't. And examine texts are canon, since KGP does in fact stand for Killer Gentoo Penguin, just to name something. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 14:49, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
Aye, I've read it. Also, Julienne does not say Saradomin participated in the Naragi God Wars. By your logic, that should be assumed non-canon as well. All I'm saying is that the emissaries aren't holy books you should follow by the word. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 15:20, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Edit pendant table[edit source]

It should have been lowercase since its not a proper noun and it's not capitalized in-game. Suppa chuppa Talk 15:41, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Lol[edit source]

Normal unseen Typo DX *slashes at Typo Fariy*  Kinglink15 (talk) 20:26, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

Also how do I make my signature to look like yours?Kinglink15 (talk) 20:44, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks man :P Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png
How? Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png
No... not really, do I really need it? Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png
Nvm, I think I got it.Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 01:53, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

You know, your Signature looks different than before O.O.Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 04:41, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

Thannks ;P but seems you're background has to much...light, where the name doesn't show.Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 15:28, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, I notices, thanks. And what I mean is, that I can't see the name at all, the background of it is like, white.Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 15:37, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
I hope u also don't mind that I got some things I saw off you're page, think u can link me where they at, or how to get them?Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 16:23, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
Almighty, thanks, also U follow Guthix teaching, and u are godless :o? JOIN MY CLAN FELLOW :DQuest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 16:52, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

Re: join my clan[edit source]

So you own a clan also?Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 17:14, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

oh, Join my clan then :P, I'll let u keep that rank, plus my clan is a privet rp clan mostly :PQuest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 17:22, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
aww, ok :(Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 17:35, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
Alright lol, add me on rs? my name on it is in my Page :PQuest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 17:47, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
Yup, and ok, added u.Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 17:51, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Wahisietel[edit source]

Yes, I still have to do the Curse of Arrav, Temple at Senntisten, Ritual of the Mahjarrat and World Wakes sections. I'll do some more tommorow, although I guess the template could be removed for now. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 18:36, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Random fact[edit source]

On a related note to Talk:Radiant alchemist's amulet#Random_fact, patches that have one of the new farming plants growing in them are full of weeds in NIS. Not sure if there is anything else to check atm (don't have a shining alchemist's amulet to check that; and the Fragment pieces on NIS are simply those from September (jagex recycled the ingame item, and slightly recoloured the fragments). IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 11:13, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Zamorak's Book, and its emphasis on Chaos[edit source]

From what you're saying, it sounds like we're agreeing, but you're removing it anyway. Could you explain your reasoning a little more clearly, please? Snowskeeper---Till Hell Freezes Over. (talk) 16:09, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Wait, you're trying to indicate that destruction is involved as well? Well, it is, but only insofar as it supports Chaos--his Chaos is then used to support Creation, which is also a part of Chaos and which he also seems to support.  Snowskeeper---Till Hell Freezes Over. (talk) 16:11, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Reason:[edit source]

Erm...*The God Letters were made to clarify and add the lore* in the past and not to align with it (even because nearly no lore existed). Some things are still canon as I said, and I don't understand your message at all... What in the world are you trying to mean? Magpie.pngHallowlandtalkWoodcutting-icon.png 18:15, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

God-letters are non-canon, and should not be used as proof for anything. They say as much in the pages they're on, on the Runescape website. Snowskeeper---Till Hell Freezes Over. (talk) 18:19, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

I am actually voting for their replacement if the quote is canon (@Snowskeeper). And Leon Art, sorry I really tried to understand both of your messages but I just can't. The God Letters' articles were both sources of lore and places for entertainment, much like the postbags. There are things with no sense which can be identified *very* easily, that was not canon even for the time they were released, these were to provide fun and a distraction to readers. The true lore part was mentioning Zaros, explaining Gielinor and things like that. That is what have been considered at the time they were released. Today, most of the things that had to be considered are not canon but some of these things are still true, such as the fear of Saradomin at Zaros' return, Runescape being a nickname for Gielinor, the names of the gods, etc. I was telling Snowskeeper and Kinglink15 to replace this valuable lore with other sources and not remove them at sight, not to keep them in articles. Magpie.pngHallowlandtalkWoodcutting-icon.png 20:00, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
It says, on the pages, at the top of the page above all the letters, that they should not be considered canon and that they are SOLELY for entertainment purposes. Using them as a source of lore and quotes is, therefore, not a thing we can do here. It certainly isn't valuable information, unless incorrect information is valuable now. Snowskeeper---Till Hell Freezes Over. (talk) 20:06, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Zaros is the strongest![edit source]

He said this at the end of march, I think I already gave you the link and everything before. This was after The World Wakes quest. To clear up, Mod Mark was referring to him in the present. Magpie.pngHallowlandtalkWoodcutting-icon.png 20:03, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Yea, Mod Mark said everything that day. Magpie.pngHallowlandtalkWoodcutting-icon.png 20:12, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
As I said..........."To clear up, Mod Mark was referring to him in the present." Mod Mark was talking about him in the present not in the past. About "losing a lot of power", Viggora says the stab of the staff of Armadyl only weakened Zaros at the time, he didn't lose significant amount of power, probably because it didn't spent too much time draining his power as he left his body right after. About the godsword by Mod Mark's part, he was supposing any of the young gods wielding a godsword, not saying that they did at some point. Magpie.pngHallowlandtalkWoodcutting-icon.png 20:36, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
God...Please read more carefully. I never said Zaros was more powerful, I never said Zaros has the same amount of power, Zaros was banished during the God Wars, I said that he can defeat the god he chooses to and for that is the strongest... Mod Mark was referring to Zaros in the present when he said that....not to Zaros in the fourth age, third age, second age or whatever. Magpie.pngHallowlandtalkWoodcutting-icon.png 22:05, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
I beg you to read more properly. Zaros was not on Gielinor at the Third Age, when the god wars occurred. Plus, Mod Mark didn't say he needed a godsword to do that. About you saying he lost at least 1 tier, you didn't present source and that's speculative. And it wasn't a joke, it was source, it reinforces what Viggora says but at the present time. Magpie.pngHallowlandtalkWoodcutting-icon.png 10:40, June 4, 2013 (UTC)
Again I beg you to read more properly. Zaros didn't participate in the god wars (he didnt send troops to fight during god wars or anything similar) but Zarosians did by pure option. Much like Seren with elves. The conflict stated in the book of sliske didn't happen during the Third Age, it was the Second Age when Zaros was attacking the desert... And no I'm not trolling evidently. Magpie.pngHallowlandtalkWoodcutting-icon.png 13:12, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Definite source[edit source]

You're better off asking Ben or Fswe for source links. I listened to one of those Above the Lore podcasts and hated it due to the amount of mumbling. Could you leave post-defeat speculation off the Zaros page though, please, at least until you have the source? Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 20:46, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Zaros Tier:[edit source]

Why did you remove his Tier? I can understand the color, but why the Tier? Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 21:06, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

In Runezone They stated "Guthix and Zaros were Tier two, Guthix bring a more powerful." WE don't know how low his tier is now, and we shouldn't speculate at all.Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 10:29, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Redirects[edit source]

Special:DoubleRedirects. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 18:32, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

There are details of all tiers of auras, but apparently we only had supreme so I added them back to the page. Also the switch template works fine for me. If you're previewing a page then it won't show up, though. Also I linked you the double redirects because they are from your page moves. Go fix them. (: Click "edit" on the left ones, then copy/paste whatever is at the right-most onto the redirect page. So edit the Greater Corruption page, and replace #REDIRECT [[Greater corruption]] with #REDIRECT [[Corruption]]. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 18:50, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Edict on the God pages[edit source]

Talk:Gods might be a better place to discuss it. Doesn't matter too much though. Suppa chuppa Talk 18:34, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Harold[edit source]

Well, it's currently named based on his in-game name, which is what we use for articles. You could make a request on RS:RFM I guess. Being bold is fine, but sometimes some people might not agree with what you do. Don't worry though, it's nothing bad. Suppa chuppa Talk 19:17, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Actually, the talk page would be better. Suppa chuppa Talk 19:20, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Ocellus[edit source]

Source please? I don't think it's ever been stated he is a guardian of order. =) User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 19:21, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

I have no idea what you're talking about[edit source]

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Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 14:02, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

I prefer Hitler to Obama tbh Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 14:51, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
FOR BIG BROTHER POSTERS OF COURSE, wouldn't want anyone to misinterpret this Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 14:52, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
lrn2signature Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 14:56, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

Justification for this edit?[edit source]

--Andorin (Talk) (Contribs) 08:35, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

But are the facts presented in the exerpt untrue? --Andorin (Talk) (Contribs) 08:41, June 8, 2013 (UTC)
This was highly inappropriate. One, people are obviously disagreeing with you, so removing the section entirely and claiming "k no compromise" is an act of (edit) war. Two, there is content in the section you removed entirely that has nothing to do with what you're disputing. From the behavior in that edit alone, if I were a neutral sysop, I would probably issue you a short block for edit warring. As it is, I'm getting neutral sysops involved in this little dispute. --Andorin (Talk) (Contribs) 08:49, June 8, 2013 (UTC)
Your edit has been reverted, and the page protected. Please do not just remove content you don't agree because you don't get your way. Just because it come from a god letter does not automatically make it untrue. cqm 08:58, 8 Jun 2013 (UTC) (UTC)
Please voice your opinion on how God letters should be used in articles here. Hopefully we cancome to some sort of agreement. cqm 09:09, 8 Jun 2013 (UTC) (UTC)

Edit warring[edit source]

This is a warning informing you that if you engage in an edit war over content with another user within the next month, you will be blocked from editing with a duration of one week. Here, edit war is defined as reverting another users revert of an addition/removal you made or inciting another user to do the same. Any disputes about content must be taken to their respective talk pages and disputed additions/removals must achieve consensus for the change before the article may be edited to reflect this. Note that this warning is being issued as the result of multiple disputes that have been improperly handled by many editors, and you are not being personally singled out. Suppa chuppa Talk 17:14, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Sara Sword[edit source]

Because it's a confirmed bug and will be fixed next week. Plus, it means the actual image of how the sword is supposed to look is on its page. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 18:04, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Because how it currently looks is a bug. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 18:41, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Desysop[edit source]

Desysop = to remove one's sysop (administrator) tools, as did not happen with Ansela due to consensus (ish). User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 17:34, June 17, 2013 (UTC)

To further this explanation, sysop is shorthand for system operator or more commonly known as admins. The two terms are interchangeable as far as wikis go. To sysop someone it to give them admins tools (block, delete, etc.). A desysop is the opposite of that. cqm 23:40, 17 Jun 2013 (UTC) (UTC)

Your userpage[edit source]

Hey, I've temporarily protected your user and talk page cause there seems to be a vandal out after you and I have no idea how to do a range block. It's a temporary measure that will be undone (hopefully) once we've dealt with the vandal What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 01:05, June 30, 2013 (UTC)

They've been blocked and your pages unprotected What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 01:25, June 30, 2013 (UTC)

Seren[edit source]

Sup, long time no see huh? I am concerned and confused, could ya quote me where it is confirmed that Seren is a LGBT? Friends of mine saw it and looking for proof but can't find it.Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 16:17, June 30, 2013 (UTC)

Nvm I found it.Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 16:21, June 30, 2013 (UTC)
More like Mind-fuck if you ask me.Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 08:58, July 1, 2013 (UTC)
That what shocked me, Seren being (maybe) a dude before being a god.Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 09:06, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Wiki page for sources[edit source]

Cam's lore project is doing that. =3 User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 09:43, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

Re:skill clickpic[edit source]

Yeah, they do look the same (skill clickpic uses [skill]-icon as its image), but clickpic adds a link to the skillpage as well, which is why I prefer it wherever the skill icons are used (with the exception of the skills' pages, where the link is redundant). Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 14:00, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Please help me understand[edit source]

Well, considering it has been argued over for the past week as to whether Zaros can be described as evil, it could be said that you and Fswe were both in violation of 3RR. Also, which admin refuses? And can you please check the links you post? I had two links to your edit and I was a bit confused until I looked at the page history. I originally thought I was being accused of 3RR :s

As for the content of the reference, it is a little... weasly. It suggests there are several different interpretations of what Zaros represents, controlling is seemingly the main focus this. Beyond that, Mod Osborne appears to say evil and emptiness are often associated with Zaros, but this is an effect of his controlling nature, that they are just interpretations of his actions rather than what he represents. However, good an evil are both subjective terms when it comes to defining the gods. Zamorak was originally deemed evil and Saradomin good when the game was in it's early stages iirc. I would try to stay away from such absolute terms when defining a god's associations regardless of jagex statements. cqm 23:46, 17 Jul 2013 (UTC) (UTC)

Nty[edit source]

You're assuming that I give a fuck. Now please, kindly get your pseudo-officials to ban me or whatever they do this day when they have their heads up their arses. RSN: Warthog Rhys Talk Completionist's cape... Coming soon. 11:01, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

Just drop the false intellectualism... It makes you look as stupid as you would be without it. RSN: Warthog Rhys Talk Completionist's cape... Coming soon. 11:41, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

Stop[edit source]

Do not involve yourself in something this stupid. Ronan Talk 12:41, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Leak[edit source]

It's the RuneScape 3 BTS Video. Kara will be showing up at the Battle of Lumbridge, which is part of RuneScape 3. How is concept art of RuneScape 3 being shown in a RuneScape 3 Behind the Scenes video a leak? Jagex intentionally put that screenshot there, there for it is not a leak. /thread. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 19:22, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

Also, from the Leaks article: "Things that are not classed as leaks: Behind the Scenes videos or posts Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 19:24, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

Aviantese[edit source]

Please stop intentionally adding false information. The plural of Aviansie is Aviantese. There's no separate name for the race or any of that nonsense. As for slayer tasks, Jagex use shared Java script to automatically add an S to monster names, it seems ("cyclops" → "cyclopss"). Now please read through RS:3RR and refrain from edit warring. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 19:48, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

Actually, it seems to work correctly on some slayer monsters... Anyway, "aviansies" is still rubbish. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 19:55, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
...I'm not even going to respond to that. To the matter at hand, I believe Aviantese was stated ages ago in Temple of Ikov. Either way, "aviansies" is a common mistake and Jagex often make it in recent updates. That doesn't make it correct. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 11:33, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
I don't want to dignify the obvious attempt to put me in a bad light over nonsense by responding to it, sorry. In addition, the Jagex wiki also says "aviantese". User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 12:38, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
I consider repeatedly doing the same action, despite reverts, edit warring, albeit in good faith. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 13:03, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
Could've checked the page history/talk page to see that it had been added and removed multiple times already. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 13:18, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
*sigh* Fine. My refusal to discuss the Zaros revert was because it had already been discussed as well as added+removed three or four times. The Aviansie thing was simply not true. I'm not trying to be mean here, but perhaps it would be advisable to be a bit more, uh, careful. As for myself, I have worked in accordance to every policy (not that you've broken any). Also, had you not edited, I would not have reverted. Simple. Now please forget this matter... User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 13:36, July 20, 2013 (UTC)

Rune guardian[edit source]

We don't do disambigs for two articles, we have {{confuse}} for that. ;) User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 15:26, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

Generally. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 15:30, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

Why did you move it to (Rune Mechanics) and not just (pet) or something? Why even move it at all tbh? Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 14:41, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

Re:God symbols[edit source]

[[File:Emoticon-Facepalm.gif]] I'll let you realise your mistake… Temujin 11:48, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

[[File:Emoticon-Facepalm.gif]]
If I were you, I'd start by taking a few seconds to actually look at the upload history of the files in question, rather than needlessly asking the wrong person the wrong questions. Temujin 12:07, August 11, 2013 (UTC)
An apology would have been appreciated >_> Temujin 11:51, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Bandos[edit source]

No, it's not been released at all. I have no idea how he looks. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 21:10, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

No, it was me. I only know he has been updated to look very different from OoG, but this concept art has not left the confines of Jagex HQ. ;) User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 11:31, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

Black Ibis LvL[edit source]

Hey Leon, just a heads up that Black Ibis can be found before the last room. i.imgur.com/rT9k5uh.jpg I'm not sure how the room level requirement affects teh outcome of finding ibis, or if it does. Fs5lj.pngSlyptalk 15:10, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

I wish that screenie was mine... Have you gotten any Ibis, just curious. Fs5lj.pngSlyptalk 16:42, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Disambig > guide[edit source]

A disambig page is a list of pages that a term can refer to. If people want to know more about one of the links they click on it. You were turning the page into a one-stop-guide on the SoF masks instead. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 16:11, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

RE[edit source]

Update:Q&A: The Death of Chivalry MolMan 19:20, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Your spelling[edit source]

If you know you have trouble spelling things, use a spellchecker set to British English. And there's still no excuse for misspelling a word when there is already an example of it on the page. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 21:07, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

No[edit source]

WGS was the one I meant ;-) To be honest I hate voice acting, it's usually very cringey and amateuristic. DoC did have somewhat good voice acting, at least for Sir Owen. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 09:23, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

My main problem with voice acting is that the player is not voice acted, which makes it feel a lot more forced and less natural. Of course that's better than forcing a voice upon the player. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 19:37, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

redirecting[edit source]

You need to stop trying to use the visual editor to make redirects because you never make them properly. MolMan 17:18, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

There's no need to be smarmy, you can ask what you need to do to fix your problems, or you can just stop. MolMan 17:43, August 23, 2013 (UTC)
#REDIRECT [[PAGENAME]]
where PAGENAME is the name of the page you want the redirect to go to, e.g. Ghouls to Ghoul. And don't copy paste it in Visual editor, because that will drag across the coding for the page where you copied it from; font family, size and colour, bolding and italics and page background colour included. Hope that helps. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 17:48, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

Referencing[edit source]

There is no need to copy the same references over and over. Use NamedRef MolMan 20:57, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

It's already there... RuneScape:Style guide/References and citations#Repeating a reference MolMan 21:04, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

Re: No More Clan[edit source]

That's Right, I am Clanless now :P oh also, seems my signature symbol that had godless disapeared, help? lol.Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 21:06, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

-Shrugs- My godless Symbol on my Signature is missing, help me in this idk how to put in the new one. Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 21:10, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Signature[edit source]

Yup!!, I need to learn how to do that, because I wanna add Guthix Symbol replacing the one on the left.Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 21:24, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

Yup, I did it! I am Awesome!:D Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 15:52, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Gods[edit source]

...lol! XD Seriously though, what are you talking about? I've never removed that table, I only corrected some references and punctuation in that edit. You seem to be confusing me with someone else. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 08:10, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

No, I didn't remove it. I merely suggested to remove it. No offence, but it seems to me you undid my edit without even looking at it. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 08:40, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
No problem, just make sure to look a bit better next time. Wink User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 10:05, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

Edit warring[edit source]

Your edit warring with other editors on lore-related pages has gotten really tiresome. I don't want to repeatedly have to protect articles just for a few users who cannot reach an agreement. I understand that you want the articles to contain the most accurate and up-to-date information, but it has reached the point where progress is not being made due to the sheer amount of conflict between users. Please refrain from edit warring in the future as I will be forced to take action and block any involved parties if this continues. Thanks, Suppa chuppa Talk 08:09, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

Naragi God[edit source]

No, it really doesn't say ANYTHING of important. All it says is that he died. HE DIED!? OMFG Wow. How did you manage to stretch that into 800 bytes? MolMan 22:36, August 26, 2013 (UTC)

It says he died. That's all it says. And you're using it to list things we don't know. MolMan 22:39, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
You also need to follow RS:UTP. I'll give you that I was a little abrasive, but that absolutely does not justify insulting me the way you did. MolMan 22:41, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
My answer is that you like stretching a statement out of nothing. There is so much useless drivel in what you wrote. It can easily be simplified to "There was a Naragi god that died." Everything you had beyond that was useless. MolMan 22:54, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
No. That is absolutely not true at all and you know it. I meant we can remove most of it because most of what you added was we don't know what happened and we don't know if this. That's not encyclopedic material, it's useless. MolMan 23:05, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
  • very little is known about a mysterious and unnamed Naragi god, that lived prior to Guthix ascension
  • It is unknown if there this Naragi god was alive
  • whether Saradomin knew about this god
Okay. So all we know is the god was there and died. Also, don't ever use "till" in your writing again. MolMan 23:23, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
Generally, it's not bad. But when 90% of the information is about lack of knowledge, it is. "Till" is informal speech, don't use it. Ever. MolMan 23:58, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
Instead of listing one by one what is not known, list what is known then add "Nothing else is known about this god or its interactions."; As for "till": if you know that word, how do you not know about "until"? >.>... MolMan 13:48, August 27, 2013 (UTC)

You can add some of that info on Gods, but I don't think there's enough known for a standalone article. Suppa chuppa Talk 22:52, August 26, 2013 (UTC)

Zamorak[edit source]

State a reason for your reverts please. Also, what you said wasn't even true; Zamorak cannot be considered benevolent because he wants chaos and destruction to achieve his goals. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 10:35, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

No, he cannot be considered benevolent at all. Even is his goals are, his means (chaos) are outright evil. And of course Moia and Moldark and stuff praise him; but they're biased. Just like Julienne and Padomenes are wrong saying Saradomin is the "one true god" - it's just propaganda (also, Moia has daddy issues and Moldark is a fat old man). User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 12:48, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
Moia and Moldark and many players consider him benevolent.. Therefor he can be considered benevolent. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 12:59, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
Zamorak preaches strength through chaos. He thinks that spreading chaos helps mortals break out of their patterns and create a better society. He means well, ie he is benevolent. Have you even read his god book, Fswe? Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 13:07, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
I am pretty Sure it was stated that Zamorak isn't evil. His means and goal may seem evil, but their misunderstanding. Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 15:27, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
"Benevolent" implies a universal and unwavering kindness or ambition to be moral/good. It's not a proper word here except quoting (these quotes are just bias on his followers' parts). Zamorak knows his goal and if he plans to accomplish it by any means necessary (which I'm fairly sure is the case), then he is not benevolent. MolMan 15:37, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
"Benevolent: Well meaning and kindly." Your definition is too.. strongly put I think. We do not know his intentions (fully) we do not know that of anybody, and certainly a personal guess does not cut it. As a member of the Godless, I also don't trust his motives/intent, but that's not the case. We can only comment on Zamorak based on what he says himself or what his followers say. It all comes down to the point that we need to stay neutral. Basically, personal moral judgments doesn't work well, unless Jagex says it is so, and Jagex have said they want to give real choices to people (although, with the possible exception of Bandos), see Fswe1's talkpage with my initial comment on Zamorak if you wish to read more. -- . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 17:30, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
That's a literal definition, what's important is connotation. If we don't know his true motives, then we certainly cannot say he's benevolent. Also, himself and his NPC followers are about as biased as it gets. It's fine to elaborate on how his followers view him as benevolent, but to state it as if it were objective fact is wrong. MolMan 17:34, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
"Also, himself and his NPC followers are about as biased as it gets" - so a Saradominist or Zarosian account is much more trustworthy? "to state it as if it were objective fact is wrong" the article doesn't state that nor should it, it states only that he could be. That is a correct and just assessment if you ask me. If you read my comment on Fswe1's talk page you might understand my point of view: Zamorak has had a long history of being portrayed as evil (mostly by their ideological counter part (Saradomin/ists) but also by "his own followers" like Evil Dave), Jagex made it clear they want to break with this few (where Sara=good, Zammy=Evil, Guthix=naive tree-hugger), as with Sara (TWW & DOC) they too intent to give Zammy more depth as a character. I think wikia should respct their artistic wish and make sure there is a break with this long standing view of Zammy=evil. Based on this discussion you can probably see how deeply rooted that conception is, and therefore, how important it could be to state that he is not necessarily evil but may just have a benevolent idea that is radically/fundamentally different from a Saradominst concept. If you want evil - Mod John A appointed Bandos, Mod Osborne thought Tuska could be a good pick, but Zamorak has been mentioned to have a real and viable philosophy where you can get behind.  . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . .  17:45, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
Also, google's definitions are good for a basic idea of what a word means, but if you want a real definition, use either Wiktionary or a well renowned dictionary like Merriam WebsterMolMan 17:37, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
You may call me biased, but in both your dictionary suggestions I find my first definition to be closer to both of them than I find yours. However, this is besides the point. If you want to have somesort of philosophical discussion about Zamorak and his "alignment", I welcome you with open arms, it's a very interesting topic. But I don't think it's very fruitful or useful for the discussion Fswe1 and I started. I think Jagex reasons (the ones I just stated) settle it, pretty much. Please tell me where you disagree. . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 17:52, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
Saying "he could be benevolent" is not encyclopedic. Reword it to say "His followers view him as benevolent" and expand from there. I never said he's evil, I just said don't call him benevolent. There's also no problem with saying that a misconception exists which purports him to be evil. Does this clear things up? Everything make sense now? MolMan 17:49, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
I like your suggestion, but I wonder... why is the first not encyclopedic?  . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 17:52, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
It's wishy-washy, ambiguous, and practically speculation that just minces the truth. The best way to go with this is state he is misconstrued as an evil god and probably continue with a paragraph that's along the lines "Zamorak's followers view him as benevolent because blahblahblah as evidenced by Bob Loblaw..." I'm sure you get the idea now. It's not that we want to remove the bias of his followers (at least not in this particular case), but we want to present it properly; as their view, rather than give it merit and call it the certain truth. MolMan 17:56, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

According to Merriam Webster, encyclopedic means:

  • of, relating to, or suggestive of encyclopedia or its methods of treating or covering a subject

Encyclopedia means:

  • a work that contains information on all branches of knowledge or treats comprehensively (comprehensive means: completely or broadly/having or exhibiting wide mental grasp) a particular branch of knowledge usually in articles arranged alphabetically often by subject.

I don't see how it was not encyclopedic. And to state that Zamorak is only benevolent in the eyes of his followers, is to not do justice to the legacy of ages Jagex what to break - mind you: this was said mulltiple times. Added to that...I would like to say again that it is not said without doubt that Zamorak is benevolent, but that this is merely a (more or less likely) possibility. To not make this clear is to actually introduce bias, which is probably favouring Saradominists - something Jagex certainly wants to stop as Saradomin is often seen as the God of Good. . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 18:17, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

Are you seriously going to argue a definition? LOL MolMan 22:05, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
Saradomin Is not the god of good, it was stated it depends on the followers view on them, but originally Saradomin is not the god of good he is the god of order and wisdom, good isn't near where he is. Sure he is seen that by his followers but I agree with Mol the way you wish to use the word is misguided. Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 22:10, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
Yes, Mole, I obviously am asking for the definition of a word when I don't understand how you seem to interpret it differently. You basically opened to conversation about a definition, because I react to people's questions and statements - seems logical to me. Let me ask you concretely: do you agree with my statement (this one: To not make this clear is to actually introduce bias, which is probably favouring Saradominists - something Jagex certainly wants to stop as Saradomin is often seen as the God of Good). . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 11:49, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
LOL, when did I tell you to reference a dictionary for any and every part of an argument?... I'm done speaking with you; just use the agreed upon outline. MolMan 17:38, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
Never, but I also didn't. So stop crying about that.. it also doesn't help your argument one bit. But I have to say, it's nice to see you agree with the most of us that it's not necessary to change. . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 09:14, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

Saradomin[edit source]

No, it's because you added stuff about Saradomin destroying Askroth to a section that speaks about how he does stuff for the greater good, when even Saradomin himself says that he was just having a tantrum when he destroyed Askroth. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 11:57, September 2, 2013 (UTC) 

You added his stuff on the Naragi homeworld as a "source" for him doing things for the greater good, despite it being irrelevent. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 13:20, September 2, 2013 (UTC)
"In order to achieve what he aims for, order, Saradomin is willing to use methods that could be regarded as ethically inappropriate or even outright evil by his followers, such as the Naragi genocide (as mentioned in the Guthixian Memories and spoken about during The Death of Chivalry quest)." How does that not imply the Naragi genocide was a result of Saradomin wishing to achieve order? It reads as if it's as an example of what he does to achieve order, the stuff about him not necessarily being good is in a different sentence. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 08:54, September 3, 2013 (UTC)]
Furthermore, when the section about him doing questionable stuff to achieve order was removed due to lacking a source, you added it back with information about how he razed Askroth, despite said information being irrelevant, and not a source for Saradomin doing things for the greater good. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 08:57, September 3, 2013 (UTC)
I really don't know why I bother arguing with you. It feels like talking to a brick wall. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 10:21, September 3, 2013 (UTC)
Honestly, I'm past the point of caring. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 10:28, September 3, 2013 (UTC)
This issue. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 10:36, September 3, 2013 (UTC)
Because no matter what I say you aren't going to change your opinion, and no matter what you say, I'm not gonig to change mine, so it's an exercise in futility. Plus the issue was resolved even before we started arguing... --Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 10:43, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

Re:CiteGeneral[edit source]

Hm... theoretically, yes, even I could do that, but it would require a separate parameter for this particular episode, and it would need to be filled in exactly how the time is incorporated into the video URL, which I doubt many people would manage to do. Generally, it's not impossible, but seems like a lot of trouble with very little profit, especially considering scrolling to the approximately correct time is a matter of seconds. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 19:45, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

Aura images[edit source]

The reason I was changing the aura images was because a lot of the detail files were showing up here. Some of the files don't have corresponding pages, so I was hoping you could find a way to fix this. Thanks, Suppa chuppa Talk 16:00, September 3, 2013 (UTC)


Re:File:Full.gif.png[edit source]

Get someone to oculus you in the outfit instead of using the photobooth and cribbing the result from the adv log? Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 19:48, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

No. I said "instead of". Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 08:17, September 4, 2013 (UTC)
The tenses of the green parts don't even match. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 08:26, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

Parents[edit source]

"parent" stems from the Latin word "parens" (parent-), which means - surprise! - "parent", id est either gender. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 13:55, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

Show 'em. =P User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 15:31, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Re:!!![edit source]

What? You said it was ok :DQuest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 12:52, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Because Saradomin was winning the first few 10 minutes I logged on, and as Kara said, we can either join the winning side, and end the battle quicker to stop the world from suffering, or balance it out and make them both go boom. I picked to finish it fast. After all, we got Godless spies in each camp no?Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 13:40, September 5, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, it's just the battle, it's like a few weeks battle going on in lore wise (or a month and a half.) They just improve power a bit, that's all. And yes, Kara said that, you can check it if you like.Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 14:03, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Vyrewatch membership[edit source]

That's why I put In the Darkmeyer disguise, they believe this user to be a Vyrelord. :3 Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 15:50, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

YUP!Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 01:54, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Rare drop table[edit source]

Information icon.svg  Hello, Leon Art. You added a rare drop to Jelly, which has access to the rare drop table. This creates duplicate entries for drops. If you are unsure if a monster has access to the rare drop table or if a drop is on the table, check the bottom of the monster's drops list. If it has access to the rare drop table it will be located there. Remember: You do not need to be wearing a ring of wealth to gain access to the drop table; this only improves the chances of a better drop. Thank you. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 11:01, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Surula[edit source]

So why not just mention that taking a voyage from Surula grants a free reroll? Your wording made it sound like she'd only just started taking up the third slot What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 18:47, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

I've added in that taking the voyage grants an extra voyage without all the fluff about how she takes up the third slot. Bit of advice: only mention what has changed, do not mention something if it hasn't changed What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 19:21, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Portent page[edit source]

"nbsp" stands for "non-breaking space" and is generally used as a special HTML character "&nbsp;", being replace by a ... non-breaking space ^^ . However, as we have a bot that clears visual editor mess-ups, amongst which the non-breaking space, it was put into a template. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 04:51, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

Robots, in the software sense; although managed by an actual human user of the wiki. For example User:TyBot and User:TyA. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 06:08, September 24, 2013 (UTC)
The line between "human using software" and "software running autonomously" is incredibly thin. A bot can strictly be either. The former would be someone pressing "run" on a bot's script, while the latter is the bot (or the computer system) triggering the script automatically. The end result could be the same. The software does whatever it is programmed to do... For the wiki's case, it can clean up articles (the syntax usually); it could revert vandalism automatically, etc. Why a different account? The accounts have a "bot-flag" which makes their edits not show up in Recent Activity by default. But I'm sure there are other people around who can explain their use on wikia much more clearly and concretely. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 07:03, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

RE:February[edit source]

Lol, sure. Suppa chuppa Talk 07:00, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Mahjarrat quotes[edit source]

You can use notes= to write notes on the reference, but tbh it's unnecessary most of the time, most quotes are self explanatory. Feel free to add them if you wish though. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 11:52, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Brassica Prime[edit source]

Nah, it's because Guthix allowed him to stay. I think Osborne said so in the TDoC Q&A or a livestream, but I'm not sure. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 13:54, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

No. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 15:34, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Asterisk[edit source]

Not entirely sure. I believe it has something to do with the reference not being verified (id est how recent it is). I think it was due to the accessdate parameter being named date. Or something. You should ask Cam, I guess... User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 13:50, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Switch Templates[edit source]

There doesn't need to be a discussion policy wise on the usage of a switch template. However, it isn't necessary as the only difference is in the image itself for the Imcando pickaxe. No switch templates load properly in the two mobile skins that exist (both Wikia applications and the mobile skin). I didn't rollback the edit, I just removed the excess as there is enough room in the 660 pixels allotted to articles for both images at once. I personally hate all articles that use the switch template. Ryan PM 15:15, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

Doesn't matter. Switch template isn't needed on the page in question. Ryan PM 18:14, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

Realms[edit source]

By messing up I only meant the Infernal Dimensions part. :P You also undid some stuff like putting Abbinah in the alphabetically correct place. To respond to your edit summary

  • "E.g. Britain is part of the Human realm," - is it? That's speculation. Treat it as a separate realm until we get confirmation.
  • "and the Gorak plane doesn't need to have the label Goraks inhabit it.. that's overly clear :-/" - irrelevant - for consistency either all or none should have their "main" race stated.

"also hobgoblins are crossbreeds but unknown where first made" - sounds like speculation too... The only crossbreeds we know of are fayrgs and raurgs. Hobgoblins are simply "agile guerilla goblins". User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 07:15, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

Jagex said the opposite actually, they said that the human realm was NOT Earth. May have been in the lore reddit thing or a campfire, I cna't remember which. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 15:04, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

Dealing with Scarabas[edit source]

If the quest Dealing with Scabaras is short in the infobox, why is it long in the overview down the page? [[User:Latias1290|La]]tias1290 17:54, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Help me understand please[edit source]

About this: 1. Having different templates start on new lines does not add spacing to the page itself (as long as there is not an empty new line in between), but does improve readability when editing the source of the page. 2. The <!-- --> I added removes an additional space at the top of the page, that is a result of using a switch info box. Compare where the first paragraph starts in my revision, and the previous one. (In my revision it starts at the top of Owen's chathead, while previously it started about half-way down his head).

And regarding this: 0. See 1. above. 1. This is what I see with your Sic + the extra line of text; in blue I indicated your extra line that should only appear as a tooltip, but for some reason is added as actual text. 2. It's actually still the same template, but with a different parameter. Your version has the line "This article is about the veteran adventurer found in Lumbridge." twice, immediately below one another; that just looks (and reads) bad(ly). Regards, IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 14:08, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

Wut[edit source]

My Russian is perfect, I speak a few words of Italian and I know literally nothing about Hindi. I don't see why this is related to my correcting a typo, though... (hence the heading title) User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 18:17, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

Not sure if serious or trolling. Also, I'm fairly sure 99.999% of all keyboards are qwerties. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 20:10, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
I meant English keyboards - still, Spanish or German ones are almost the same, save a few characters (ñ, ß, etc.). Additionally, some interpunctional characters are different from English ones (like slashes, question and exclamation marks or apostrophes). But they are the same in general. Obviously this doesn't apply to languages who don't utilise the Latin alphabet. Id omne dictum, why are we discussing the types of keyboards? User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 06:29, October 9, 2013 (UTC)
So, next time, I should leave a typo on the grounds that it may have been made due to a different kind of keyboard? User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 12:22, October 9, 2013 (UTC)
...does it matter? User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 14:42, October 9, 2013 (UTC)
We've been talking about keyboards because I came up with a semi-funny (i.e. deliberately not funny, making it pseudo-funny) edit summary of my own rather than using one of the custom ones, which I, by the way, cannot remember having ever done? Bit of a waste of time. At any rate, I'm going to Rome in a few hours. Drop this. Please. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 18:38, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

RE:My Pages[edit source]

Check here. Suppa chuppa Talk 15:35, October 10, 2013 (UTC)

Re: on advice of Fswe[edit source]

Firstly, sorry for accidentally deleting your talk page. My fastdelete buttons decided to load as I clicked on leave message. I might try to modify the script at some point to reduce the chances of it happening.

Secondly, sorry for taking so long to reply. I'm in the progress of rebuilding my laptop, and it may be a while before everything is working correctly again.

Regarding the asterisks, I'm not sure. It's nothing we've customised on the wiki as far as I can tell. There's certainly nothing that relates to it in {{CiteGeneral}}. I suspect it's part of the extesion itself, but I'm not sure what behaviour would trigger it. Perhaps Wikipedia's extensive help pages document it, but I can't find any mention of it anywhere. I'll ask around Wikia's skype channel next I'm on to see if anyone there has come across it before. cqm 23:53, 10 Oct 2013 (UTC) (UTC)

Special:Diff/8108776/9108430[edit source]

Please use the correct capitalisation and spellingas shown in-game (i.e, our page names). Eg, it's "Red d'hide body" not "Red Body". HaidroH rune.pngEagle feather 3.pngCandle (blood red).png 1XqyDNM.png Crystal triskelion fragment 3.pngHazelmere's signet ring.png 12:00, October 11, 2013 (UTC)

So? Use the in-game names. We are a wiki, not a slang dictionary. HaidroH rune.pngEagle feather 3.pngCandle (blood red).png 1XqyDNM.png Crystal triskelion fragment 3.pngHazelmere's signet ring.png 12:09, October 11, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Korasi's Sword[edit source]

I found that image over on Graphical updates/Items pjJ4pBM.png Abyssal vine whip.png 14:27, October 12, 2013 (UTC)

MPD post quest dialogue[edit source]

Hi Leon. Should I post on your talk page, or continue the discussion on my talk page in future? I have only recently started editing again so I am afraid I have forgotten.

On Wahiesetel; I first picked the Option 'I'd like to talk about the citadel'. Then the option 'I'd like to talk about what happened at the empyrean citadel'. He replies 'I was happy to learn that you supported the Empty Lord while debating with the gods. I'm sure he is aware of your deeds', 'Sliske may be acting recklessley but at least you remained calm and dedicated to Zaros.' You then have options of asking him about Zaros, Sliske, Stone of Jas, etc. Perhaps this only appears to those who sided with Zaros.

Cheers buddy --Akthanakos camel chathead.png Karimabuseer Talk Azzanadra ghost.png 17:51, October 17, 2013 (UTC)

Did you side with the Zarosians in TWW? Mod Ollie has said the option would only appear if you did! Selecting the Zaros option gave me a message about feeling an odd sensation/chill down my spine --Akthanakos camel chathead.png Karimabuseer Talk Azzanadra ghost.png 16:08, October 18, 2013 (UTC)

I am only cb stats slightly above 80, and I managed to do BoTD - I found it was easiest to complete with mage. I died loads, but I realised that the most important thing is stunning abilities for the boss fight, if that helps. And I have supported Zaros since 08/09 (when my signature was made!) - I genuinely believe that following Zaros is the best choice for the adventurer. Though you raise a good point with the Iccy/Wahiesetel contradiction. Silly Jagex! --Akthanakos camel chathead.png Karimabuseer Talk Azzanadra ghost.png 11:28, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

I am sure you are definitely capable of doing it bro! Do you use the door to separate Grimson & Hreidmar? Ah, I see what you mean! I don't personally believe that Zaros is the most benevolent god- rather, I think it'll be the most beneficial to my character in game. I do agree that we don't yet know enough. If I was Lord Karim irl, I would instead perhaps back Armadyl...or maybe even Saradomin as he perhaps has the strength to see peace through in the Gielinor. Even if he is a power hungry bastard, haha. --Akthanakos camel chathead.png Karimabuseer Talk Azzanadra ghost.png 19:54, October 25, 2013 (UTC)

I ignored the chaos dwarves; I lured them outside, and shut the door on them hehe :D to stop him from healing, I just saved my thresholds for it. I originally was using ancients, but I wasn't hitting high enough so I switched to Polypore strike as the staff gives a hidden +10% damage boost, as well as taking a super set :) any both storywise (it will be most interesting) as well as the fact that he is such an isolated character with such obvious power; it would be wrong to not attempt to reap some of the benefits. Also, I am notoriously loyal in real life; like, if a girl screws over a mate I'll get quite protective. So seeing as I randomly declared myself a Zarosian like 5 or so years ago, I was almost always going to keep along with it - like, I did feel mildly guilty for abandoning Saradomin when I played as it was a break from loyalty for me! Though of course, after TDOC and MPD, I am glad I am no longer a saradominist! :) What are your own beliefs bro? --Akthanakos camel chathead.png Karimabuseer Talk Azzanadra ghost.png 22:54, October 26, 2013 (UTC)

I am not sure about the polypore; I seem to hit much higher with it than I do with the wand of treachery. And the teleport thing is super annoying :( I occasionally trapped the dwarves outside one by one, killed them off quickly and use the gained adrenaline to use 'regenerate' once my food had run out. This works well, as Hreidmar only seems to be inclined to use the healing special when he is in combat, so you will be healing whilst his hp will stay (roughly) the same. Ahh, I completely forgot about that Sliske quote. I love it! Highlights and justifies the player's heightened sense of self importance. And whilst I do see why you would want to be godless, I do not think it'd be as interesting. Are there many godless players about? I am a recluse when it comes to playing, so I have no idea as to worshipping demographics. I completely agree with your comments about the story lines. Whilst stuff like Murder Mystery is excellent at fleshing at Gielinor's little niches, the Myreque and mythical/epic stuff is hugely entertaining as it is so immersive and has so much depth. What is your favourite storyline with Gielinor? --Akthanakos camel chathead.png Karimabuseer Talk Azzanadra ghost.png 17:44, October 28, 2013 (UTC)

I think most RS players will have a certain level of detachment - that is, doing what they think will be more interesting as opposed to what would perhaps be the more right thing to do (as arbitrary as the idea of 'right' is!). Or maybe that's just me haha. And I agree! If we were untouchable as The World Guardian, it would make for a much more boring storyline. If the Godless took almost a resistance/guerrila role, assassinating Gods who are hugely more powerful than them David and Goliath style, it'd be aaaaawesome. Yeah I know what you mean! I want my character to be consistent with the rest of the game world. Having him as a predestined hero almost breaks the fourth wall, to an extent - as well as demeaning all of our in game achievements. That LotRO idea sounds awesome. At times, I find myself justifying that my character is still alive haha! Like, after I died against TokHaar Hok I was just like 'well, I clearly had an emergency teleport out!'And no, the character's storyline is a great answer...though it is cheating a bit ;) mine would either be the Mahjarrat storyline, or the Myreque :) I'm sorry to have let you down :p I will try and find a true believer for you! I used to be part of a FC where everyone was pretty devote Zarosians. And I'm not sure how accuracy scales with damage - I assumed it only affected a splash or hit ratio kinda thing, but idk :P and dw you're not spamming; I am enjoying the convo! --Akthanakos camel chathead.png Karimabuseer Talk Azzanadra ghost.png 00:18, October 31, 2013 (UTC)

Bandos[edit source]

Stop vandalising Bandos please, i.e. deliberately adding nonsense. I have heard what Mod Osborne said, and he was wrong about one part (vengeance) and phrased the other (humour) very badly. Bandos enjoys the slaughter of his followers, but saying he has a sense of humour is like saying Hitler had a good sense of humour. Also, it's not edit warring if you're removing vandalism. Even if it's good-faith-vandalism. Nevertheless, I'd rather you removed it yourself. Oh, and this is my final word on the matter. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 06:24, October 25, 2013 (UTC)

Fine, I'll reply. Ahem: ↑ User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 07:19, October 25, 2013 (UTC)
All right, I'll elaborate... as for the humour part; it's already in there. The part about sadism and follower-wars details Bandos' source of fun, whereas simply saying "he has humour" is not specific enough and could, theoretically (and practically to someone unfamiliar with Bandos), mean that he is "your favourite grandpa who makes brilliant jokes about dogs". Hence that part should be removed; it's already there, but explained in a more thorough way. As for the no grudge holding: that is partially wrong axiomatically, and partially put in the wrong place. Bandos does hold serious grudges; Guthix banished him and he sent Graardor to kill him (but not before obliterating an entire realm in anger - if you don't hold a grudge against someone, you don't become that angry). As for not holding a grudge against us for defeating him, that's rubbish IMO, but let's assume it's true, due to MPD. That means we are a special exception, so put that somewhere between the MPD and TCC sections, being specific that he doesn't hold a grudge against the adventurer. Again, saying he simply doesn't hold a grudge is too general (and wrong for all cases except us). Happy now? Finally, "some form of sadist" is incorrect English, but that's already been dealt with, User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 07:27, October 25, 2013 (UTC)
  1. ...yeah, that's what Osborne meant... He gets lots of fun at the expense of his followers... He's not a jolly gnome with a good sense of humour. That's undeniably ridiculous.
  2. Graardor isn't Bandos - he probably has trouble understanding/expressing what his master meant. If you remember, Bandos was furious and ashamed at his defeat. He will want a revanche with us/Zanik and obliterate us utterly; this, too, is fact. To me, he seems no less intent on vengeance than Melville was, but that's just my opinion. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 19:01, October 25, 2013 (UTC)
I'll admit it, that made me chuckle. And of course I've listened to everything. >.> And yes, you should be listening to me, since, clearly, you're coming to the wrong conclusions. In your words: Bandos knows enjoyment and exploits his followers sadistically to get some, but saying he has a sense of humour is stupid. Likewise, saying he doesn't hold grudges is equally stupid (not to mention incorrect), while saying he would desire a rematch to destroy his opponent would work. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 19:40, October 25, 2013 (UTC)
"Bandos has a sense of humour (he can crack a good joke)" Lol. No. Again, he is Bandos, the god of war, not Yelps, god of fun. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 12:30, October 26, 2013 (UTC)
Would you two agree to something along the lines of "Bandos has a good sense of humour and enjoys mocking gods that he perceives as weaker than himself, such as Icthlarin."? Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 12:45, October 26, 2013 (UTC)
I have no idea what you mean by that. Tell me one good joke Bandos has ever told. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 13:05, October 26, 2013 (UTC)
Humour does not necessarily equal Bandos telling jokes. It does, however, mean that Bandos has a rather jovial personality, and enjoys making fun of others. Hence "Haha! So you've come to save your fair maiden?". Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 13:29, October 26, 2013 (UTC)
Oh, and he describes Death and Strisath and Sliske's new toys. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 13:31, October 26, 2013 (UTC)
Stating he has a jovial personality, providing these examples, is fine. Saying he has a sense of humour is stupid, for it implies Bandos is a joke machine. @Leon: And I'm not trying to find good arguments - this isn't a debate - just trying to convince you of a fact. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 15:26, October 26, 2013 (UTC)
Where did I ever deny that it was said? I'm just saying it's wrong. Rather, you interpreted it wrongly. See Ben's comment above. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 16:26, October 26, 2013 (UTC)

Regarding your edits[edit source]

I don't want you to edit war any more pages until you've resolved the matter with the relevant user(s). In this case (Bandos), talk to Fswe about the matter and don't get sidetracked. If you ignore him and continue to edit war, you will be blocked. HaidroH rune.pngEagle feather 3.pngCandle (blood red).png 1XqyDNM.png Crystal triskelion fragment 3.pngHazelmere's signet ring.png 07:18, October 25, 2013 (UTC)

He's been notified via private message in S:C. -- Recent uploads SpineTalkGuest book 20:23, October 25, 2013 (UTC)
This is about you. Besides, I've already told Fswe that this applies to him as well and he's agreed. HaidroH rune.pngEagle feather 3.pngCandle (blood red).png 1XqyDNM.png Crystal triskelion fragment 3.pngHazelmere's signet ring.png 21:14, October 25, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Zaros[edit source]

They were possibilities that Mod Jack put forward. Well, for the second one, Azzanadra misinterpreting other sounds for Zaros' voice may be a more accurate explanation. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 10:46, October 26, 2013 (UTC)

Special voyages[edit source]

I wonder why you added this? Doesn't it do the same as the Table of Contents (TOC)? Dragon dagger.png AmoVos 14:34, October 28, 2013 (UTC)

Stop[edit source]

  1. The thread has not ended yet.
  2. General consensus seems to be that quotes that aren't at the top of the page can stay.
  3. Stop having a tantrum. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 18:38, October 30, 2013 (UTC)
Oh, and 4: The thread does not concern audio files. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 18:40, October 30, 2013 (UTC)

Hello, the thread he is referring to can be found at Forum:Remove character quotes. Your edit summaries imply that you are having a tantrum, which is probably why Ben felt it necessary to say that. Please read over the above thread and give your opinions there. Continuing to behave in this manner will lead to a block for you to be able to calm down. svco4bY.png3Gf5N2F.png 18:54, October 30, 2013 (UTC)

Are you referring to how I removed the huge ugly quote from K'ril Tsutsaroth, and how Fswe removed the tiny terrible quote from Moia? Just because we think those quotes were unnecessary (especially in the case of K'ril) does not mean you should go around removing every quote you can find. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 18:57, October 30, 2013 (UTC)
You can stay up-to-date with all the current discussions on the wiki by checking out RS:AD, which can be found on the navigation bar on the top of the screen under "Community" if you're using the Wikia skin. Passive-aggressive editing is never the way to go, and if you thought a thread should be made, then you should've made it. :P svco4bY.png3Gf5N2F.png 19:10, October 30, 2013 (UTC)
To start a thread, you'd navigate to Forum:Yew_Grove, type in the name you want the forum to have in the box on the right hand side, click "Add new topic" and write what you want to write. You'll then need to hit save. svco4bY.png3Gf5N2F.png 12:12, October 31, 2013 (UTC)

enchant level 5 jewelry[edit source]

Looking at the enchant level 5 jewelry page, the history lists that you changed the xp gained from 58.5 to 78.

Where does this info come from? Every sinsgle time I cast it I only get 58.5 xp. Is there supposed to be some other chriteria involved to rise the xp gain? Otherwise this xp entry is throwing off calculations. 98.209.133.170 03:25, November 1, 2013 (UTC) Mikezorander 98.209.133.170 03:25, November 1, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Sorry :([edit source]

I think he(?) means that if you make Choice A during the quest, and another player makes Choice B, you will have different versions of Zaros, and a player who made Choice C will have yet another different version. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 19:03, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

Zamorak's tier[edit source]

If you have a disagreement over the format of Zamorak's tier, then please take it to either the discussion page or to the talk page of the person you're disagreeing with. What you do not do is revert back to your version regardless of the state of the discussion. Edit warring is not productive to the wiki whatsoever What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 12:21, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

Clearly you didn't read my edit summaries, so of course I'm annoyed. I KNOW he was tier 4. You kept adding his post-BoL tier to his BoL form, which is nonsense (by that logic we could add a post-death tier for Guthix). As for the formatting, don't use slang abbreviations (BoL) on articles... Next time your edit is reverted (twice), please take a look at why it is reverted rather than re-adding it without even stating a reason, ok? Thanks. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 12:36, November 3, 2013 (UTC)
So why did you keep reverting it back to your version regardless of the state of the discussion? What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 12:34, November 3, 2013 (UTC)
That really does not excuse your behaviour. You still committed an edit war, and although you did try to contact Fswe and avert it, you still went ahead and put it back to your version several times. There's a reason why we have the RS:3RR policy What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 13:19, November 3, 2013 (UTC)
Three times you added back in what Fswe removed. That is edit warring What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 14:23, November 3, 2013 (UTC)
His giant form is actually very specific to the BoL and he may not be able to assume it anymore due to having lost his power. I see Ciph's dealt with that now though. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 13:40, November 3, 2013 (UTC)
He hasn't assumed his giant form post-BoL. Id est; the giant form cannot be tier 5. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 14:39, November 3, 2013 (UTC)
Irrelevant. He hasn't used his giant form post-BoL so isn't tier 5. What happened pre-BoL doesn't matter because he was tier 4 anyway. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 15:27, November 3, 2013 (UTC)
...seriously, are we resorting to that now? At any rate, I most certainly am not. The giant form was only ever used when Zamorak was tier 4. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 15:46, November 3, 2013 (UTC)
Please stop making a complete fool out of yourself and actually read what I have written, okay? Zamorak was tier 4 during and before the BoL. His giant form is also exclusive to the BoL and before that. Ergo, the giant form has only ever been used by tier 4 Zamorak. When the BoL ended, he became tier 5 and hasn't used his giant form since. Ergo, the giant form can't be tier 5. Stop telling me Zamorak and Saradomin were tier 4, then became 5 and 3 respectively: I bloody know that. And in case I seem angry: I am. If I say X, I don't need a response that boils down to "No, it's not X - it's X, so go away." User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 20:03, November 3, 2013 (UTC)
Oh, and please archive your talk; it's making me lag. ;-; User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 20:04, November 3, 2013 (UTC)
"Then you conclude: that picture = T4, hence only mention T4 stuff. But for me that's waaay too specific." - that's the status quo though. Switched infoboxes are that specific. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 18:34, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Zamorak Switch Template[edit source]

I checked and Zamorak has different clothing on for battle - it covers more of his skin and his decorations aren't as large. There's also the size difference of his wings What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 13:23, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

What about his shot from Missing, Presumed Death? Pretty sure that's identical to the standard one What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 14:23, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Bandos trivia[edit source]

What do those pieces of trivia have to do with the god? Unless it's known that that island or that word translation is a reference to that island, then it shouldn't be included. As for your argument that there is similar trivia on other pages, it could very well be because these trivia have something to do with the god and aren't necessarily a coincidence - for example elven culture contains lots of Welsh references and translations so Seren's name is also Welsh, but Zaros the god is not related to the Greek village Zaros What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 06:57, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

So remove it then. Unless there's a direct link it shouldn't be put in What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 07:07, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Zaros/Seren[edit source]

I don't think it was actually said that the god ascended, just that they don't potray themselves as the gender they were before ascension. Obviously, having never ascended, that applies to Zaros, as he didn't have a gender (or even exist) pre-ascension :P. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 09:57, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

Raven probably was talking about Seren though, but there is still the possibility he wasn't. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 09:59, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
Yes, it's probably Seren, but it may not be. Zaros does not portray himself as the gender he was before ascension, because he didn't ascend. Mod Raven is exactly the kind of person to troll us by saying stuff like that. At any rate, there's also the possibility it's a weird crystal god we don't even know about :P. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 10:14, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
I'm not saying he's lying, I'm saying what he says has more than one interpretation. The obvious one is not necessarily the correct one. But anyway, if you want to add speculation to articles and present it as fact, feel free, but it's your fault if it gets proven wrong and the Wiki's reputation for inaccuracy is further justified. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 10:36, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
Do you have any solid evidence that it refers specifically to Seren? From where I'm sitting, "weird crystal god" could easily refer to an as yet unseen god, or it could refer to Seren, but given the ambiguity of the statement unless if you have any further evidence then as far as I am concerned it is not wise to present it as solid fact What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 10:47, November 13, 2013 (UTC)
What would count as unambiguous would be a statement specifying either that the "weird crystal god" is Seren or that Seren was not female before becoming a god What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 14:46, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

I think that reference was added as a source that he is, indeed, a god, as pre-MPD, we had no actual in-game source saying so. Regarding Brassica's alignment, he also speaks of deliciousness being power in his new dialogue. And you can't really make a joke about Brassica Prime: Brassica Prime IS a joke. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 12:27, November 14, 2013 (UTC)

KQ leak[edit source]

Hi Leon Art,

Can you upload this image on the leak page? Via ImageShack, Photobucket, Imgur or Flickr? So it can be uploaded according the rules?

-- K'ril Tsutsaroth chathead.png Quilafa Guthix chathead.pngTalkBandos chathead.png 20:45, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Just want to make sure you're aware[edit source]

Forum:Quick_3RR_clarification - this is a forum regarding changes to RS:3RR in order to prevent the edit wars that seem to break out over lore What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 21:02, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Requests for Merging[edit source]

That is not what the Yew Grove is for. That belongs at the proper request page , thanks. svco4bY.png3Gf5N2F.png 21:13, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

RE:future concern[edit source]

Zamorak would fall under the category of getting one, as his other form is notably different during a specified event (BoL, golden additions and details that don't make him look like something from Nintendo 64), and that info that falls along with that event is relevant to that form. It's similar with Saradomin. Achievements Coelacanth0794 Talk Contribs 21:24, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Godhood tier table thingy.[edit source]

Why did you merge the number and the name of the tiers? It just made it look silly and sloppy, and I see no benefit for doing so. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 11:06, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

I changed the table to fit what both of you want (Leon having them both under "Tier", Ben wanting them in different cells). Is this an acceptable compromise? Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 11:16, November 25, 2013 (UTC)
I like Ansela's solution, yess. Them being linked isn't any reason for them to be in the same cell, by that logic we would have their description in the same cell too. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 11:33, November 25, 2013 (UTC)
The name and numbers are different too. The name is well, the name, and the number is the position. The number is not the name of the tier. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 11:39, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

Gods page[edit source]

I see you have made this edit. While editing is nice, you should be discussing it rather than arguing over it in the edit summary. You have been told things like this enough times already. svco4bY.png3Gf5N2F.png 13:23, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Thingy[edit source]

The be funny in the way where something is 1% funny (0% being hearing your mum's died and 100% being the funniest thing you've ever seen). This response falls under that. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 17:14, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

OMG do you guys never learn?[edit source]

Please... Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 18:34, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

RE[edit source]

I don't think the overstated popularity is that noteworthy to mention; it had nothing to do with NPOV. If you disagree, you're free to undo my edit. MolMan 22:45, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Kingdom ... self?[edit source]

By "self" I meant that karamja itself is a kingdom (even though that is not strictly true). Italay90 (talk) 18:05, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Me[edit source]

  1. You callin' me a cake, punk?
  2. Is not every day one's afterbirth day?

ʞooɔ 07:22, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Come into chat please[edit source]

[[Special:Chat|now]] HaidroH rune.pngEagle feather 3.pngCandle (blood red).png 1XqyDNM.png Crystal triskelion fragment 3.pngHazelmere's signet ring.png 10:55, December 4, 2013 (UTC)

Zamorak[edit source]

Amazing! An edit you have repeatedly made (note the use of the present perfect here ;)) has been reverted half a dozen times by at least three different users and yet you insist on doing it again? As you may understand, I am becoming increasingly doubtful when it comes to RS:AGF. Now, please be a lamb and revert your edit before this becomes another bloody revert war, the article is put under protection and Fergie goes on a rampage blocking everybody? Love, User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 20:59, December 4, 2013 (UTC)

Seems Fswe beat me to it. Curse his Ninjaness. I blame lag. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 21:06, December 4, 2013 (UTC)
Well, the examines section (which is rather ugly and out of place and has only a fifth of Zanik's trophy case) isn't necessary if we use switchfobox. Would we do that solely for the examine texts? Of course not. However, in his BoL/giant form, other parameters are also different, such as tier and, most importantly, image. Also, Pietel, I suffered the same lag so you can't blame that. ;) You're getting slow - perhaps you should travel to Cambridge to rejuvenate? User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 07:22, December 5, 2013 (UTC)
Also, allow me to point you to RS:3RR, which you seem to be ignoring. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 09:40, December 5, 2013 (UTC)
Also also, 4 examine texts would be fine in one infobox, as long as you don't specify where they originate, which would be fine. I mean, it's pretty self-explanatory that the first two are from BOL, for example. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 10:03, December 5, 2013 (UTC)
I don't see why, honestly. Maybe you are referring to cook's latest addition? I agree that 4 examinations maybe fine for one infobox, but if you don't specify where&when those examinations are from, then you also lose information. I disagree that you can, a priori, know which examinaiton belongs to which event (be it MPD, BOTD, BOL-cut scene, During-BOL, or later situations). I really don't see how that would be possible. If you know it from memory, sure, but that's not what you said :-/ While I agree that it's certainly not as out of hand as Zanik's examinations, I do think it's necessary. If you think it's ugly, please, do improve on it. But to make a switch template because you would like to add some examinations, that really seems like overkill to me. If you say "well because Zamorak has some gold trims there and different examinations, it is warrented that he has a switch tamplate" then you could with just as much ease say that he should have 3. Because when he is not locked in battle with Saradomin he doesn't have that large kamehameha beam - which also makes him look quite different. Saradomin really does have a significant breakpoint: from fith-age ancient Greek warrior king to 6th-age ...what ever look. Zamorak only has a slight trim loss. The fact that he dropped tier and you want to use that as a criterion, I would also like to dismiss that. Looks aren't limited by the tier gods are on (for so far as we know), and that's all information that can be shown the way it is now. Pre-Bol: 4, Post-Bol: 5. Also note that Bandos also doesn't have another switch template thingy because he's on a different tier. To add unnecessary switch templates really significantly clutters the page and makes it less easy access. They should only be used for more significant differences, like Azzy and Nabanik for example. I hope this is enough delibieraton? ;)  . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 14:02, December 5, 2013 (UTC)
The examine text is irrelevent, there is quite a significant difference between Zam's BOL model and his MPD/BOTD one. The BOL one is MUCH more detailed and stuff, if anything, we should use that one as the one in the infobox because it looks nicer. Regardless, your opinion is irrelevant, you're not allowed to break RS:3RR and change something back after it's been reverted THREE TIMES BY THREE DIFFERENT EDITORS without resolving a discussion or even starting one in the first place. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 14:54, December 5, 2013 (UTC)
The only reason that it is more detailed is the size, unless you refer to the additional gold, which isn't detail but decoration. If you think that more beautiful then.. that's fine. That is however a personal opinion and I'm not aware of the policy that the most appealing image should be used when another is equally detailed, more recent and easier to use (no unnecessary kamehameha-beam). The discussion was resolved, I think. Ciphrius Kane's solution was adopted for as far as I remember (using the MPD version). Then it was reverted again by some-one else. Anyway, regardless your opinion I did not think I break RS:3RR. Which was arguable broken by Fswe1 on the God page when he re-added Bandos' prior tier.  . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 19:47, December 5, 2013 (UTC)
It's not just the gold trims, it has more polygons in general, proper eyeballs, ect. And yes, you did break it, you reverted something that had been reverted three times by three different editors. There was NO discussion on whether to use the switch infobox or not. At any rate, they're different models, therefor a switch infobox should be used. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 10:56, December 6, 2013 (UTC)
It also doesn't look like it came out of OSRS. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 11:17, December 6, 2013 (UTC)
If you weren't that arrogant it would be a different story... but really dude, stfu. "There was NO discussion..."?? How can you be so damn sure?? Tell me how you disprove that negative, really just humour me, show me how. I will let you on to a secret: ppl can send PMs, there can be discussion without you knowing about it. And since you don't even bother reading the discussion Oil and I had, id sure as hell doesn't surprise me that it escaped you that there actually was a discussion about it, want a little hint? What about this? Also.. wth does 07 have ot do with this??  . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 11:33, December 6, 2013 (UTC)
I see no discussion about whether a switch infobox should be used or not anywhere, could you please link me to it?. At any rate, discussion is completely pointless if it's not actually done with the people who are reverting your edits, especially if they can't even see it.Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 11:38, December 6, 2013 (UTC)
Apologies, I see it now, my dog was distracting me. At any rate, Ciph seemed to believe that his BOL form looked identical to how he did in MPD, which was untrue. Regardless, Ciph not was the one reverting your edits, and people have reverted your edits (and you have reverted them back) since then with no discussion.Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 11:44, December 6, 2013 (UTC)
Looking at it again, it looks like Ciph didn't even actually respond to your proposal of only using one image. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 11:47, December 6, 2013 (UTC)
Apologies accepted, but please, refrain from those tendentious remarks, it really doesn't promote healthy discussions (it certainly annoys the hell out of me). Especially if you disagree on online fora.
I would like to point out something that I think is important. The word "identical" has an aura of absolutism, which isn't useful. When you look at the difference between Saradomin-5th & 6th age then you see quite a big difference. Also the difference between Zamorak-god and Zamorak-statue/Mahjarrat is similarly big. The difference between MPD/BotD and BoL is not that big, only a matter of trim (I dismiss the kamhehameha, that's his power not part of his body). If you don't think the trim is that big of a change you may think they look virtually identical. I never look identical, a frown is different the wind blows my hair. Game models may be different but he certainly doesn't look radically different, they look pretty much identical to me (I assume Ciph had the same opinion). I also remember Ciph mixing in the discussion I had with some-one else. . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 11:59, December 6, 2013 (UTC)
Pointing out the differences in Zamorak's forms to show you it isn't simply the gold trim. 1: Higher polygons in general. 2: BOL model has gold trims around the edge of his top. 3: BOL model has yellow claws on his fingertips. 4: BOL model has a more detailed forehead-gem. 5: The bit of cloth hanging down his robe bottoms is shapped differently. There are more differences, of course, just pointing out some of them. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 18:39, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Re: SoJ & AKAs[edit source]

Sure we can, but I'm not messing with default infobox templates. I was merely removing a(n) (at this time) pointless parameter, without removing information as the AKAs are all stated in the first sentence as well. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 12:05, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

I have no problem moving the AKAs to an appropriate spot in an infobox. In this specific case, however, a general "interactive scenery" infobox is used; are AKAs in general useful for this type of infobox? Either way, if you're asking about my general stance, I am not for nor against moving the AKAs, and I don't mind having AKAs. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 14:58, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

*sigh*[edit source]

1. OldTier 3 has been merged with OldTier4 to become NewTier4, as evidenced by Saradomin and Zamorak being moved from OldTier3 to NewTier4. This means that the OldTier3 and OldTier4 are now not reliable anymore.

2. How on earth does it make sense for Bandos to be the strongest of the young gods (apart from Guthix)?!

It would be nice if you would actually think about this kind of thing before mindlessly reverting it. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 15:55, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

The system was changed, therefore you are making an assumption by assuming that the old forum thread is still valid. I don't have to "back up" anything - the claim is that Bandos is tier 3 and that claim needs backing up. I'll ask mod Osborne on Twitter anyway, so we'll know for sure.
I did not mean to patronise you - I apologise if that is how it came across.
I did not think Zaros (who was banished) and Seren (who 'sploded) relevant to the situation. Anyway my point still stands - why would Bandos be more powerful than Saradomin and Zamorak? We can make assumptions, sure, but since this discussion is about not-assuming things I don't feel like going there. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 20:16, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Hiya[edit source]

I've noticed your recent edits to the Zamorak page, and I have concluded that the following changes should take place. This has been agreed with several other users:

Firstly, The switch infobox will be brought back onto the page, with Normal/Bol as the titles. ("Normal" won't probably be the title, but you know what I mean). The whole page looks stupid. You have a section devoted to examine info, which looks ugly (And what's worse is in the infobox there's a link that says "See article"). In the "Normal" section, there will be the current image, the godhood tier 4/5, and the examine info from MPD and BOTD. In the BoL section, there will be the BoL option, both tiers 4/5, and the BoL examine/s.

Secondly, the #Examines section will be removed. As mentioned above, the examine info will be merged onto the switch infobox (and thus be more accessible)

The gallery will remain. I may be wrong here, but I believe it was you who moved some images from sub sections into a gallery. I'm completely fine with this. Oh, and obviously the BoL image will be moved from the gallery into the switch infobox.

I've noticed that Fswe and Ben have argued whether Zamorak is aligned to power or not. I've left it as so. And while I'm here, please don't forget about RS:3RR. HaidroH rune.pngEagle feather 3.pngCandle (blood red).png 1XqyDNM.png Crystal triskelion fragment 3.pngHazelmere's signet ring.png 12:19, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

Because your idea is, no offence, bad. I don't think I've ever seen a page with a section with Examinables. This isn't me parting with Ben, but just what seems right. I really don't know why you continued to remove the switch infobox once again and again.
I'm not sure what you mean by having "some information [to where] the various examinations apply to", because don't we have that on every page with multiple examines?
And look, if you and Ben are going to continually argue about what the best structure is of the page, then you're going nowhere. I've done this so we can go somewhere. If you want to suggest a change, please, at least put it on the talk page. Edit warring is not the answer. (By the way I just woke up so if anything looks odd just tell me) HaidroH rune.pngEagle feather 3.pngCandle (blood red).png 1XqyDNM.png Crystal triskelion fragment 3.pngHazelmere's signet ring.png 22:15, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

Saraderpmin and Zamowack.[edit source]

Um, SixthAge!Saradomin does NOT appear in Ritual of the Mahjarrat and The World Wakes, for obvious reasons, and PreSixthAge!Saradomin doesn't appear in The Death of Chivalry and The World Wakes. Likewise, BattleOfLumbridge!Zamorak never appears in any quests whatsoever. Why are you saying that they do? Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 18:23, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Zamorak was also never tier 5 during the Battle of Lumbridge. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 18:25, December 8, 2013 (UTC)
And Saradomin was never tier 3 before the Sixth Age.... Do you even realize what the Switch infobox is for? Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 18:27, December 8, 2013 (UTC)
Ah, didn't see what Haidro said. Regardless, that's inconsistent with the examine texts and images, and how pretty much every other switch infobox on the wiki is formatted... Also, please don't put visual editor crap on my talk page again. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 18:39, December 8, 2013 (UTC)
Exactly... that's why I think the decicion as curious in the first place. So what about that link?? Do you really think I do that (visual editor crap) on purpose??  . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 19:55, December 8, 2013 (UTC)
I'm guessing the 3/4 tier for BOl Zamorak was that he briefly used his BOl model after Saradomin defeated him before Moia teleported him away. That doesn't apply to Saradomin, and Haidro didn't even say anything about him anyway. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 18:41, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Edit warring and RS:3RR[edit source]

Hi Leon, I just wanted to inform you that your most recent edits to the Saradomin and Zamorak are consistent with the definitions of edit warring as listed in RS:3RR and as such I have temporary blocked you for these edits. The offending edits may be seen here and here. I would advise you to take another look at RS:3RR, specifically the most recent revision of the page which specifies under what circumstances the revert of a good-faith edit on a lore page breaks this policy. Hopefully you will learn from this and take controversial edits to talk pages where they may be discussed before making blanket reverts like you have done. Thanks, Suppa chuppa Talk 18:44, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Can I ask why this policy is applied selectively then (e.g. this )?  . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 18:58, December 8, 2013 (UTC)
I only apply policy to edits that I see. Suppa chuppa Talk 19:00, December 8, 2013 (UTC)
Also, what are you talking about? That doesn't break any policy. Suppa chuppa Talk 19:01, December 8, 2013 (UTC)
Additionally (since you picked my edit as an example...), that edit was made before the recent 3RR amendment. But that aside, it is considered edit warring to revert a revert (vandalism, spam, etc. excluded), be it good faith or not. The edit you linked was not that, it was just a revert (indeed, what are you talking about?). Per the "new" policy, the revert I made may not be reverted. On Zamorak and Saradomin, however, you did revert a revert, which breaks 3RR. And not for the first time, I might add. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 19:06, December 8, 2013 (UTC)
idk... but in my world November 10 (RS:3RR) is before 5 December (your edit, fswel), and for Suppa, the point I was talking about:
  • In the case of lore-related articles, do not in substance revert a previous revert to the article. Content disputes can and should be taken to the article's talk page (and involved parties should be notified), and no further related edits should take place to the relevant sections until the conflict is resolved.
Hope that helps ;) . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 19:53, December 8, 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, read 5 November there. >.> Anyway, glad you understand the policy fully. I hope switch infobox is also completely clear now. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 20:19, December 8, 2013 (UTC)
But do you??
And now, I'm still waiting for the link to that place where it's desccribed that what I was doing is wrong. Because I can't deduce that from this . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 07:29, December 9, 2013 (UTC)
You just quoted the 3RR policy on what you did wrong... As for the infobox, you must treat the different infoboxes as different entities entirely. If it helps, see one infobox as Zamorak and the other as Plausible Pete, one of the Pete brothers who is a master in rhetorics and who resembles Zamorak. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 07:59, December 9, 2013 (UTC)
Ah, by the way, this is also against policy. The information was removed by at least three different users (heck, even IPs) and you kept readding it with the brilliant edit summary ":3". I won't make an issue of it, since you've already been blocked, but please make sure that doesn't happen again, OK? User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 08:41, December 9, 2013 (UTC)
Hey... don't be a dick, okay? Regardless of my mistake(s), you have far from a clean record.  . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 09:16, December 9, 2013 (UTC)
Please don't insult people who are trying to help you. Surely you don't want to break UTP as well? I'll be off now - toodles. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 16:06, December 9, 2013 (UTC)
Don't worry, I rarely do. . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 16:29, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

Why remove a ref?[edit source]

Because it's broken. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 21:36, December 12, 2013 (UTC)

Looks better. (: sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 01:33, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

References[edit source]

I'm not sure if you saw my message to Pascao, or if you just happened upon that reference, but thanks for adding it. Can you also add links for this and this? MolMan 21:56, December 16, 2013 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Seed[edit source]

You made this a few months back, but never ended up doing much with it. So far, you've only changed Kalferberries, and that was way back in April. Do you have some plan to rework all the produce pages? Or can I clean up this template's usage in preparation for speedy deletion? Or perhaps you'd like to look into making this a task for a later time? MolMan 19:22, December 19, 2013 (UTC)

Armadyl colours[edit source]

Armadly's associated colours are listed as "White, pale blue, silver, amber, orange". I have a theory on this that may make sense.

God Wars and before, Armadyl was associated with the colours white, pale blue and silver, for whatever reason. But then Zamorak blasted Forinthry, wiping out the armies within that land, which included the entirety of Armadyl's Aviansie troops, and what he thought was the entire Aviansie race.

But then he returned to Abinnah, found the remnants of the Aviansie there, and he changed his form, his "aspect", to that of the phoenix. And then he returned to Gielinor, after the edicts were lifted, and it is at that time that the colours red and amber came to represent him also.

Is this logical to anyone you? Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 10:30, December 21, 2013 (UTC)

Talk pages[edit source]

Generally messages on talk pages are directed at the one whose name comes after the talk page. If you want to address users other than the owner of the talk page, then use their talk page, not the current owner's. By doing what you're doing right now, this can cause confusion by giving the impression that you're addressing somebody that you're not. So can you please in future use the addressee's talk page? What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 19:07, December 21, 2013 (UTC)

What may be clear to you may not be clear to everybody else. Plus, by using somebody else's talk page, the recipient is not notified, while the unintended recipient is, which could lead them to think that you are addressing them. There's also the issue with confusion arising from who is addressing who if this keeps up, such as you thinking I was talking to you one time when I posted on Ansela's talk page and hence talking to her about your misuse of pronouns What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 20:23, December 21, 2013 (UTC)
I am referring to this edit by the way What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 20:40, December 21, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Aviantese[edit source]

See Wahi's talk. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 15:21, December 28, 2013 (UTC)

...you don't get what the policy means, do you? Wahi's actions were in full accordance with 3RR. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 15:25, December 28, 2013 (UTC)
Uhm. No. That's Mod Osborne being silly and disregarding an existing plural by ignoring it. It's called a lorefail (albeit minor). How can the plural of something be my "personal opinion"? -.- User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 15:28, December 28, 2013 (UTC)
Again, see Wahi's talk. Two perfectly fine sources there and I can't be bothered looking for more. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 15:32, December 28, 2013 (UTC)
...of course they say "aviansie" in the world event. >.> That's after the mess-up. Look at the original sources referring to aviantese. Ashuelot, Armacus and (apparently) the examine of the Armadylian altar are more reliable. I can't find a single source using "aviansie" as plural before Mod Osborne's thingy, so it was either a retcon or a lorefail. Most likely the latter, because retcons are generally announced. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 15:45, December 28, 2013 (UTC)
I honestly have no idea how you interpreted the above as "this is my opinion". Especially because it is impossible for the statement "the plural of X is Y" to be an opinion... If you'd like to hear my opinion on the matter, I think the usage of "aviansie" instead of "aviantese" is just a common mistake like "Feneskrae" instead of "Freneskae", "Velbadan" instead of "Veldaban" or "Dragonkins" instead of "Dragonkin [pl]". User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 15:51, December 28, 2013 (UTC)
"My opinion is that the plural of dagger is apple mush." That's ridiculous. Something (semi-)official can't be an opinion. You like it or you don't but it's fact. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 18:54, December 29, 2013 (UTC)
Because it's a mistake, obviously. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 10:40, December 30, 2013 (UTC)
*sigh* User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 10:50, December 30, 2013 (UTC)

RE:3RR[edit source]

This isn't a revert of a revert, it's just a revert. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 15:29, December 28, 2013 (UTC)

...The move that happened five months ago, long before the 3RR change, to which absolutely nobody contested? In all honesty I had forgotten about it. At any rate, the rule isn't really relevent, it was changed to stop revert wars, and we're discussing it. In fact, I tried to start the discussion first, but you editconflicted me and I didn't notice ;_;. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 15:52, December 28, 2013 (UTC)

RE: WE2/BnB image[edit source]

IMO, it would be better if we used our own images, instead of using jagex's. for example, TWW, BOL, BOTD, etc. In fact, since we have two towers in WE2, we can even merge the two tower images into one and use that: File:Armadyl's Tower.png and File:Bandos's Tower.png.   az talk   13:39, December 31, 2013 (UTC)