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Clicked wrong undo option. I'm sorry.[edit source]

Misclicked. That was on entirely me. Was attempting to remove the edit by Anonymous Contributor Beneath you in History. The edit of IP 90.186.212.94. It added confusing text underneath the Quest Textbox. I apologize for the mistake and inconvenience, I will ensure it doesn't happen again in future. Blueday0100 (talk) 16:03, December 19, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Dark mode[edit source]

Dark mode is currently on hold while I wait for Onei to not be busy. I don't remember if he went into specifics in the thread, but the plan is to have a script pull CSS from a wiki that I've specifically set up for the theme. It should work better than the JS proposed in the thread, which was taken from the Doctor Who Wiki and has an unavoidable flash of the white theme as the JS loads (which defeats the purpose of a dark mode).

Unfortunately Onei hasn't had time to work on it in the past few months, and I can't really do anything without knowing what the script will or will not change, and what still needs to be styled by hand. --Iiii I I I 22:29, December 19, 2016 (UTC)

"The" Jack of Spades?[edit source]

Are you sure the quest name will be "The Jack of Spades" and not just "Jack of Spades"? Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 07:27, May 31, 2017 (UTC)

My question wasn't based on the leaked news post, I was just wondering what your source was. :P I'll just wait for now until it's released before I create the category, since those cannot be moved :S Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 11:25, May 31, 2017 (UTC)

Wikian[edit source]

Thank you for supporting. Quest Icon Crest.png  MarshP  Rune platebody (Guthix) detail.png 14:14, June 1, 2017 (UTC)

hey[edit source]

ha we have same birth day ty for helping rs wiki

RE:Discontued content[edit source]

{{Discontinued content}} is the neutral one. :P Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 00:24, June 6, 2017 (UTC)

Nvm, I see what the problem is. Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 00:25, June 6, 2017 (UTC)

Oreb[edit source]

Oh look - 'Reaper title - Oreb' That enough proof? What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 15:01, June 9, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I've nae been having a good week, frankly it's been very depressing fer me What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 21:20, June 9, 2017 (UTC)

RE:Slayer mask page[edit source]

Thank you for making the design better on my slayer masks page contribution. I didn't know how to make it look that way!

Thank you for making the design better on my slayer masks page contribution. I didn't know how to make it look that way!

Aaduarte Chambel (talk) 01:47, June 12, 2017 (UTC)

RE:Pet granularity[edit source]

Look a YG thread :) Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 12:31, June 13, 2017 (UTC)

RE:Automated edits[edit source]

Of course. Didn't think to log into my bot account on my phone as I used the js script to resolve them. Thanks for the reminder. - Purple partyhat.png Sparky Kitty the WikianFiremaking.png 12:55, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

Congrats[edit source]

Congratulations on your Rfa. - Purple partyhat.png Sparky Kitty the WikianFiremaking.png 23:30, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

CC rank[edit source]

I had ranked your account to admin, poke me or Gareth if you want to be able to babysit avatars too. Please remember to update RS:RANKED if you change your name! --LiquidTalk 00:45, June 28, 2017 (UTC)

RE:Animation watch[edit source]

Sure. :) If you could please merge {{The Magister}} with {{Sophanem Slayer Dungeon}} like {{Monastery of Ascension}} has both the bosses and the dungeon. :P Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 21:02, July 3, 2017 (UTC)

Actually, since there's only one single navbox for animation overrides, it's probably better if you use the template checker. Unless you wanna make multiple navboxes for animations? Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 21:42, July 3, 2017 (UTC)

Re:Stuff[edit source]

I'm trying, honestly, I don't want to cause discord, but I fear I inherently cannot stop because of the, er, stupidity, for lack of better word, I perceive at people blindly following policy without using their brains. Er, no offence, by the way. Also, Java > untrans'd NXT per RS:IMG, but that aside. Moreover, while I've tried accepting the status quo, it does mean I'll never be able to upload images again without a certain someone's swooping in and replacing them within the hour (I can't help but notice he only does that do images upladed by me, and he's the only one doing it too), and I don't think I can accept that, since images have always been a strong suit of mine, and I enjoy orbing stuff. Frankly, I'd rather be blocked at this point, so that I have an excuse to just go, like Mol did. :( User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 07:29, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

A thread like that would stand little chance, and the other one was just closed a few weeks ago anyway. I don't use NXT for the only obvious reason: I think Java is superior. For now at least. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 14:09, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Varrock guard[edit source]

Erm, why did you delete the Varrock guard chathead, rather than adding it back to its article, since it had apparently been removed? User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 06:18, July 13, 2017 (UTC)

That'd be nice, I'll add it back to the page then. If I'm not mistaken, it does require {{obfile}} to be added, though. Thanks. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 10:35, July 13, 2017 (UTC)
Cheers. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 11:19, July 13, 2017 (UTC)

Re:Event mystery box[edit source]

Thank you very much for providing this clarification! I had no doubt at all that Event mystery box (Build A Beach) was removed with good reason, I just wished to be assured that creating a new page for both mystery box sizes was not necessary for this event.

Hopefully we will find out which mystery box is used soon! Perhaps it might just be a variant of a recent mystery box (this one seems to be a good match so far), only with the rewards esoteric to the previous event in which it was used not available. With the Utmost Sincerity, Respect, and Integrity, Completionist cape.png Audx [[User talk:Audx|the Wikian]]Runecrafting master cape.png 05:55, July 18, 2017 (UTC)

Here we go again[edit source]

Java images that are to be replaced should be tagged with {{java image}}. A list of Java images that require replacement can be found in Category:Images taken in the Java client.

It's for images that require retaking. This one does not. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 18:21, July 24, 2017 (UTC)

My bad then, I misinterpreted the statement, assuming sanity. Apparently 'java images that are to be replaced' is a pleonasm now... If we're going to replace perfectly all right images (actually, no such tagged image has actually been replaced, but they're going to be eventually, so it appears, even though it's a bigger waste of time than replacing all lower case letters O with lower case omikrons on every article - actually sounds like a job I should go about doing, 'innit) with pretty much identical or worse versions just to display a different label, welp, shave me bald and call me Wendel, 'cause I'll be better off in a mental asylum. *deep sigh* Don't take it personally. I tend to resort to mad ramblings in the face of brick walls. Have you read Cloud Atlas? If not, you should. Either way, I feel like Mr. Cavendish in the Aurora House.
Cabbage cabbage cabbage. Pie Iesu domine, dona mihi requiem. *THUMP*
Weeeeeeee.
On a completely unrelated note, I started a ninja thread in addition to my minigame one - if you have any suggestions for ninja updates/fixes, feel free to suggest them. It should be on page 1.
PS. You should probably ignore the rest of this message. Did you know a clanmate estimated my age at 35-40? I was shocked, mate, yay I was. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 20:38, July 24, 2017 (UTC)

Cleanup image[edit source]

Thanks for restoring it. I have little else to say, really; as I argued, the templates have different uses, since Cleanup image, unlike Retake Image, AA, Interfering combat, etc. does not actually warrant retaking. :) User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 18:55, July 25, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for all your help & for the all the trouble caused :D I was struggling on that whole external image thing. Leee x (talk) 02:22, July 29, 2017 (UTC)

Mod Pages[edit source]

Just wanted to say that I love all the new Jagex Mod pages you're created/updating. I think they are amazing! Pernix cowl detail.png MAGE-KIL-R Zaros symbol.png 01:33, August 7, 2017 (UTC)

Re:Query[edit source]

I don't remember. Presumably the same place where I got the image, so perhaps Linkedin or his Tweeter account. I'd never guess a name, though. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 06:39, August 7, 2017 (UTC)

I asked Stu at some point, he was transferred to a different project (not RS; mobile games or applications or someting if I recall correctly). Shame, since he made some great content. On a side note, think we should list all dev diaries written by jmods? I'm inclined to think so. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 17:20, August 7, 2017 (UTC)
I am on holiday at the moment, so can't work properly, and it requires a lot of copy-pasting. I'll get started on it when I come back, though. Also, some content developers that don't have a table entry are still missing proper articles (e.g. Chris LC, James B, Matt H (Mod Newmatic), Rahul V, Mod Trick, ...). Some aren't the most notable but since we have a list of developed updates that more than justifies an article. The official wiki pages on the website with Category:Content by X have all been deleted, haven't they? :( User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 17:38, August 7, 2017 (UTC)
Oh, and I suppose the audio department can be done simultaneously. Stephen Lord, Adam Bond and Ian Taylor are very notable, and then there's others less well known but still pretty established like Chris Jolley and Grace Docksey. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 17:43, August 7, 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. I definitely suppose there's interesting stuff to say for some; e.g. James's accounf of creating Desert Treasure from a mess made by interns, or Chris LC's plans for the sea slug series. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 17:47, August 7, 2017 (UTC)
Mod Stu suggests making separate categories for Jagex employees that no longer work on RS (but used to), such as Roderick and Tim. Any suggestions? User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 08:51, August 8, 2017 (UTC)
Nice. We probably need a navbox now don't we? Also, if you want, the articles I made today and yesterdays are lacking images but I left some locations where to find them in case you're bored. Oh, and the ninja team might need its article now; curent members (nicely listed on a forum thread), former members (gulp) and large projects done, methinks. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 16:02, August 8, 2017 (UTC)
Great, good job. I'll hopefully grind out some more former content devs today and tomorrow, but I'm still on holiday so taking it easy. :P Then comes the onerous labour of making/fixing redirects and updating disambigs and confusion templates... User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 16:57, August 8, 2017 (UTC)
Oh, would you mind creating tables for holiday events, D&Ds and miniquests as well? User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 17:02, August 8, 2017 (UTC)
Not a clue. Can look into it later. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 17:42, August 8, 2017 (UTC)
Mod Stu (bless him) gave us this;

2014

  • One of a Kind - Raven +more
  • Fate of the Gods - Rowley +more
  • A Shadow over Ashdale - Funnel team (Stu (dev), Ollie (boss), Goya (design), Joe Redstall & Paul Roach (environment), Damo (character), animator was called Victor but I don't remember his mod name) (IIRC Mod Hunter had moved to Ninja by that point)
  • Mighty Fall - Jack (design), Doctor, Deg, +more
  • Plague's End - John A, Stu +more
  • Broken Home - Jack (design), Wilson, Ollie +more
  • Heart of Stone - Deg, Raven +more

2015

  • Dishonour Among Thieves - (Nameless/Watch?) Ollie +more
  • Dimension of Disaster - (Guardians?) Stu (design, most quests, worldbuilding), Rowley (achievements + Demon Slayer), Doctor (systems & bosses), Dave (writing), Jack (Zemouregal's notes), Joe & Alex (env), Damo (char), Hing I think (anim)
  • Hero's Welcome - (Dukes) Wilson +more
  • The Light Within - (Watch then Dukes) Ollie, Raven +more
  • Lord of Vampyrium - (Guardians) Rowley, Stu, Ollo (Nick M), Joe & Alex (env), Damo (char), Hing (anim), Sarah & Andy (QA)
  • Call of the Ancestors - (Watch) Deg, Ollie +more
  • Beneath Cursed Tides - (Watch) Deg, Ollie, Avatar +more

2016

  • Nomad's Elegy - (Dukes) Raven, Wilson
  • River of Blood - (Guardians) Rowley, Stu, Orion (boss, hallucinations, blood essences), Joe & Alex, Damo, Hing, QA I forget might've included Manti & Andy
  • Kindred Spirits - (Dukes) Raven, Wilson
  • Gower Quest - (MTX) Moltare (design), Daze (dev) +more
  • Children of Mah (Watch)
  • Impressing the Locals (Guardians) Rowley
  • Sliske's Endgame (Dukes)

2017

  • Back to the Freezer (TAPP project) - Helen, Nexus +more
  • Menaphos quests (Titans)

Shattered Worlds was by the Eternals, which at the time included Ollie (product owner), Deg, Raven, Stu, Tomb, Erator (devs), Chaose & Ramen (QA), Chilly (Paul R) & Luke F (env), Chambers (char), animator I forget

User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 19:43, August 8, 2017 (UTC)

Well that sucks. I do think that people that switched position should also have their old positions include as categories though. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 07:57, August 10, 2017 (UTC)
Just realised the person infobox has no gender parameter! Seems fairly important, especially when there is no image available. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 13:35, August 10, 2017 (UTC)
Graham was a copy-pasting accident, sorry. Also, NPC infoboxes have them, I don't see why actual people's shouldn't. Besides, there's nothing to assume (nor have I ever heard of a debate, lol) - we know everyone's gender already. Except Mod Stu's of course since I don't think immortal gods have genders. :P User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 16:37, August 10, 2017 (UTC)
As good as done with audio, I think. On another note, User:Smithing/Game Guide might be useful. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 07:20, August 13, 2017 (UTC)

Re:Vanity images[edit source]

woops sorry, i'll do that then. thanks for the heads up ^^ Superperry1 (talk) 15:25, August 17, 2017 (UTC)

so now i seem to be unable to remove this [ [File: [image] |220x280px]] from my imagebox, any solutions? Superperry1 (talk) 15:41, August 17, 2017 (UTC)

Re:Nice[edit source]

I wasn't trying to be nice. He's been (presumably deliberately) ignoring every one of my messages on related matters, not to mention that he blatantly ignores common sense with his uploads. Because apparently an image with an LD overlay is preferred to one without, as if we have a policy dictating NPC images are better with as many graphical effects slapped on as possible. I haven't outright insulted him nor am I planning to (I am of the opinion that's beyond civil conversation). But I shall call a spade a spade, when needed. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 17:32, August 20, 2017 (UTC)

Even if LD is turned off/low, there may be various other effects at play. Since I think we can all agree they didn't specifically change Max's model to be brighter and have less contrast, it must be a lighting effect inherent to the area. Perhaps it cannot be turned off (in which case Java > NXT with graphical poobah) or perhaps it's a different setting. Either way, if this is accepted as a standard, it means that every NPC/monster/... image must be replaced if the area in which it is located changes. New skybox? New NPC image, since according to this situation, area graphics are part of the NPC model, even though they are clearly not. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 19:12, August 20, 2017 (UTC)

Template:Training guide[edit source]

Hi JaydenKieran,

A few minutes ago you reverted my edits to Template:Training guide, without any edit summary except a link to the relevant style guide. The style guide linked (RuneScape:Style guide/Navboxes) does not forbid using a non-standard approach to formatting a navbox, so I don't believe it justifies your edit. My version is fully compliant with everything that style guide actually says, and makes it easier to find the relevant skill, since all the skills are in the positions players are used to. Please could you give me your rationale for your edit? Best wishes, GKFXtalk 18:14, August 24, 2017 (UTC).

Re:Final warning[edit source]

I'd go against some of these points but shan't for it's pointless to argue. Therefore I can but reply with "yep, read it" (also you needn't have listed everything, I'm tired of formalities). If it is bureaucracy's wish to throw logic out the window and worship a three-letter-label above all else, so be it. As you suggested, I've tried both talk pages (which Tony consistently ignores; I'll be quite plain here - I used to like and respect him, but it's become overtly clear that a prominent goal of his has become to thwart aught done by me in image maintenance under the guise of helping the wiki and 'following policy' (in addition to the other edits/uploads he makes that are undeniably to the wiki's benefit - he may be a cur towards me, but does good work otherwise. Mostly). And nay, I shall not veil this sentiment by faked gestures of politeness because I cannot stand that kind of stuff, and I am of the opinion that those who do not respect me deserve equal treatment in return. If you still assess that calling his delightful behaviour of undoing almost all of my recent filespace edits, most often utterly unnecessarily and ignoring common sense (yes I use the term again, can't think of anything else) when one could logically draw but one conclusion from a simple pro-and-con list, and then playing mute when I resort to his talk page 'the pretence of a mental issue' (or whatever it was I said) is a breach of UTP, I'm not stopping you, go ahead and block me if you will. But I, for one, would deem his insolent behaviour towards me as inexcusable as, by this assessment, mine, so please block him too then, or at least forget to feed his goldfish or something) and the Yew Grove, to no avail. Obviously edit warring is not an alternative and as such I have refrained from reverting aught since the last major discussion on the issue unless I was certain beyond a shadow of doubt that my arguments were irrefutable. Clearly this judgement was an error on my part. E.g. the cave monk; I figured everyone would agree that a smaller image with shadows, enhanced brightness and clipping feet should make place for a version without any of these issues - inexplicably, however, not so.

Very well, then, do as you wish. But hark, know that what you ask of me is to sit idly by and watch as perfectly all right images are replaced by objectively inferior versions (and I'm not talking about normal uploads (e.g. Kaleb Paramaya) here, nor even cases of inferiority in the form of small changes in LD or whatever - but see, for instance, aforementioned monk) and policies are followed blindly and literally with narry a thought about why the policy exists, and in what spirit it conveys what guideline. That, my friend, is quite a burden. I wish I had stopped minding image business months ago altogether, as I should have but alas! I'm both too passionate about that field of wiki'ing in which I have for so long been involved and I, by character trait, cannot abide gross misdemeanours in the face of rationality. I can only say it would be most difficult for me to stop now (as you may have noticed, I tried a couple of times recently...). So again, if you wish to block me (there goes my record - oh well), voici.

Finally, I apologise for the long sentences, but I hope you'll appreciate them. ^_^ Think of me what you will; but from my current perspective, I'm just trying to help the wiki with what I think (and can argue and have done so) is best for it, only to be opposed with no heed of said arguments nor any sense in general. One may think this is ridiculous, but such is the boat I'm in. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 15:46, August 30, 2017 (UTC)

RE:Discord[edit source]

Done. Sorry I didnae get back to ye sooner, was oot all day yesterday What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 08:40, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

Yew Grove Revision Undo[edit source]

Not sure how I did what I did, but I realized when I was fixing my signature on my Yew Grove post for the "Cautious header" that I deleted some comments. Went back to fix it and got edit conflict, so I guess you already undid it. Just wanted to let you know the revision that removed comments was accidental. Thanks for fixing it though!  RS AdvLogMyles Prower  Talk 17:57, September 27, 2017 (UTC)

Quests/Strategy[edit source]

As I was ticking off quests I've already done, I noticed the following quests are not listed:

  • Impressing the Locals
  • Unstable Foundations lol why is this listed in runemetrics?

There may be more though - going to sleep now. Hailfire boots.pngBren 04:45, October 1, 2017 (UTC)

re: discord has died[edit source]

likewise

see you on the other side

Star Talk ayy lmao ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 21:08, October 13, 2017 (UTC)

Vorago/Strategy[edit source]

Hey, this Manhattan2 guy is adding back incorrect things to Vorago/Strategies page. I'm not sure he's doing it in bad faith. Could you do something? 5-x Talk 13:44, December 10, 2017 (UTC)

Edit summaries[edit source]

It helps if you use them sometimes then. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 20:47, January 11, 2018 (UTC)


Thats mine[edit source]

thats my ip and i removed that line it's annoying how users can be robocops on here. when they ain't admins.if we can remove the ip from talks that would be awesome thanks EvilRedLion (talk) 23:07, April 4, 2018 (UTC)

Why the Notification?[edit source]

Earn "The Wikian" title in-game by editing the RuneScape Wiki!
JaydenKieran
a day ago · RuneScape Wiki

Hi, The above notification appeared today and will not go away no matter how many times I click it... Funny thing is; I already have it. 3ICE (talk) 11:09, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

List of achievements[edit source]

I've added that note as people were confused why the amounts on the wiki differed from the amounts found in-game. I've been discussing it with Mod Asherz for several months now, he (or others) have fixed a lot of the issues I mentioned to him already, but some remain. However as he is busy with Mobile, this has become a very low priority understandibly. However it seems Mod Shogun is interested in fixing it possibly if time permits while he's working on the M&S rework as noted on the reddit post. Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 17:16, August 1, 2018 (UTC)

The list however also mentions the totals and as such the discrepancy should be noted here as well. Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 17:21, August 1, 2018 (UTC)

Beach[edit source]

I ate my first one after the heatwave had started today and it said I can eat 5 more. Also, last year this is how it worked and it's good to assume that we haven't had changes. Thingummywut (talk) 14:09, August 3, 2018 (UTC)

Very possible. Now that you mention it, it might've been the case last year, too. I do faintly remember either facing it myself or reading about it. Thingummywut (talk) 14:21, August 3, 2018 (UTC)

RE: Spamfilter[edit source]

Ah okay, thanks! Was a bit curious as well as to why one set of links for one site would be blocked whilst another that leads to the same wouldn't be. Fishing cape.png Kate the HuntressQuest.png 12:43, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

DPL[edit source]

Hi... who should I approach on the wiki regarding DPL? Fishing cape.png Kate the HuntressQuest.png 18:37, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Christmas Advent Calendar (2018) - Christmas jumper (KBD) token[edit source]

Hey JaydenKieran! :)

I saw that you added the KBD jumper token for December 25. Do you mind if I ask where this info came from? I looked at Jagex's info on the calendar but I couldn't find anything about it.

Thanks! :)

Karlshammar (talk) 10:46, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Re: Re: Christmas Advent Calendar (2018) - Christmas jumper (KBD) token[edit source]

Ok, thank you! Is there any way to learn how to datamine the cache available on the Internet? This is all news to me. :)

Karlshammar (talk) 13:49, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

TemplateData "Custom" suggested wiki-text formatting[edit source]

I'm finding a couple of templates that don't have TemplateData associated with them, and one of them has a format that is best when not inline or just simple block. It's the {{Inventory}} template.

When it's put in in the visual editor, it should have a format like:

{{Inventory|align=right|orient=h
|Cannonball\12 | | |Steel bar
|Steel bar |Steel bar |Steel bar |Steel bar
|Steel bar |Steel bar |Steel bar |Steel bar
|Steel bar |Steel bar |Steel bar |Steel bar
|Steel bar |Steel bar |Steel bar |Steel bar
|Steel bar |Steel bar |Steel bar |Steel bar
|Steel bar |Steel bar |Steel bar |Steel bar
}}

E.g. the align and orient inline (if present), and the 1-28 parameters on the following line in groups of 4.

Is there a way to do that with the "Custom" suggested wiki-text formatting?

Thanks! Cache117 (talk) 02:24, 1 January 2019 (UTC)