User talk:IsobelJ/Archive4

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Scarabtomb[edit source]

Is basically another bad version of [[:File:Kalphite Nursery map.png]]. MolMan 16:15, June 7, 2016 (UTC)

File redirects[edit source]

In cases where an item page has no file that is named "PAGENAME.png", it is absolutely valid and acceptable to create a redirect from "File:PAGENAME.png" to a file used by the article. It's common practice and the precedent was set by Forum:Change to Exchange icons. MolMan 16:42, June 14, 2016 (UTC)

This practice finds the most usefulness with files that are used more often, such as File:Guam seed.png for use in drops lines; however, no rule states a minimum usage before a redirect is acceptable. No rule should exist either. If for whatever reason we made an automatic list of gloves, or th items, or blue items, being able to get File:Starfire gauntlets (40).png without an extra input is invaluable. Not just for that item, but for any item whose article does not have a "PAGENAME.png". MolMan 16:47, June 14, 2016 (UTC)

relevant to you[edit source]


In case it gets cutoff:

I guess? --Jlun2 (talk) 11:27, June 15, 2016 (UTC)

Image signatures[edit source]

Well, if you only used an image that's already on the wiki, I suppose you could do [[File:blah blah.png|link=User talk:Whatever]]. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 16:15, June 29, 2016 (UTC)

Or User:Urbancowgurl777/Signature? --Iiii I I I 16:22, June 29, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Signature[edit source]

I was planning to use imagemap to make the image clickable, something that (afaik) cannot be done with external images. So my current signature will be it, even though I want it in [[w:c:halo:User:Wilc0/Sig2|my own style]].


Agility-icon.png Wilc0 Why doesn't anyone want to talk to me?

Invalid thumbnail parameters[edit source]

I left you an answer for the error message on RuneScape:User help, but just incase you want the answer quicker I'll reply to you here as well.

The max resolution an image on the wiki can have is apparently 12.5 million pixels. If you scale down [[:File:Eastern Sea Map.png]] by just 1% you'll get it below that cap, and that should correct the error message. We had to do the same for File:PHAS Hint Map.png a few years ago. Hope that helps. — Heaven Sent (talk) 19:48, July 9, 2016 (UTC)

Re:Stuff[edit source]

Afaik no idle anim has always been used as an argument in cases like this. As for nxt and stuff, of course it's allowed, but why would you ever use an nxt image when it's objectively worse? It's not a matter of opinion really. E.g. lighting in the abbey image: it was originally intended to be yellow, nxt making it blue is almost certainly not an intended change but Jagex not bothering to manually add the proper lighting there and thus using a generic one instead. Therefore the nxt lighting is worse. You all probably think of me just being annoying in these cases, but I fail to see how what I say is not simply common sense. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 14:52, July 16, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, I wasn't a fan of its existence anyway. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 20:40, July 19, 2016 (UTC)

There is no point for that.[edit source]

Why do I need to give that to you? If Catcherby and White Wolf Mountain was added with no source at all too, even month wasn't added, just being said that it will be reworked in the future... Lairud123 (talk)

New exchange pages[edit source]

If you go to a non-existent exchange page, there should be a "Create exchange page(s)" button alongside the "Create page" and "Discuss" ones.

I will admit that the pages I made need some updating for the correct item values and buy limits.Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 11:06, August 9, 2016 (UTC)

Hi, I'm really sorry about not properly naming my images! Thanks for the guidance. I look forward to contributing more soon. HMSRUNE (talk) 15:58, August 15, 2016 (UTC)

Mapsh[edit source]

As I was trying to say before you left, :P, here's a link to the content. Can't edit (i.e. upload new versions and things) but can view everything. beep User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 09:26, August 18, 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome. Was hoping Ansela'd first me, she usually posts cute snakes. :3 User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 07:52, August 19, 2016 (UTC)
The link is broken. D: On the bright side, I saw a squirrel today and it was adorable. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 09:52, August 19, 2016 (UTC)
yaaaAAAAaaaAAaYY oooooowwwll :D User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 10:12, August 19, 2016 (UTC)

UTP[edit source]

That's cute. You actually think I insinuated anything? Moreover, even if I were, insinuating someone has a neurological disorder does not constitute a breach of UTP, as it was not used as an insult and it is not a profanity. It's characterising a behaviour. Stuff I've done. Paul Z Talk bite me HS Contributions 19:39, August 23, 2016 (UTC)

Pet names[edit source]

The names that Ben and myself moved them to are (almost) the ones they should be in, according to the image policy. It's not our fault that Paul didn't know, or ignored, that policy when he originally uploaded the pet images. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 21:12, August 23, 2016 (UTC)

Yet again making unfounded assumptions about my intentions. Tsk tsk. When I originally uploaded the images, nothing was known about this special case, and no one was communicating about it. There's absolutely 0 blame to be had there. More salt for my popcorn pls Ansela. Stuff I've done. Paul Z Talk bite me HS Contributions 21:20, August 23, 2016 (UTC)

Skilling pet pages protection[edit source]

That's actually completely unnecessary, and reactionary in a delayed sense. I'd already conceded that - in light of RuneScape:IMG#Image name - <pet name> (pet).png was the correct name for the detailed images of the pets. The issue with the clashing names has also been resolved in that same motion. Things were not clearly laid out before action was taken, and it was disorganised. This led to confusion and frustration for multiple people. Stuff I've done. Paul Z Talk bite me HS Contributions 21:20, August 23, 2016 (UTC)

Ghoul fight[edit source]

Hey, look, I don't want to make a big deal out of this (took some reluctant convincing to write this up in the first place), but your revert summary wasn't very helpful. Obviously the matter's subjective and if we disagree on it then fine by all means, but I did try to explain the reason for reverting (i.e. less clarity of subject due to hectic shadows and dark lighting), whereas 'it's fine' isn't really indicative of its being better than the previous version. Again, it doesn't really matter, but, err, just saying, I guess?
Got any more owls? User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 10:07, August 30, 2016 (UTC)

The new image definitely wasn't against policy, merely my own opinion. In this particular case, I felt LD and shadows detracted from the quality of the image to the degree that I decided to revert, not because it was strictly against policy (in which case I'd like to think someone else would have beaten me to it). Point taken, though. Lovely plumage. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 12:46, August 30, 2016 (UTC)
Btw, be honest: are the images I take myself so terrible? They keep getting replaced for no reason whatsoever, I can confirm that's also off-putting. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 14:21, August 30, 2016 (UTC)
Afaik nxt is permitted, not preferable? But even so, the majority of the replacements are almost identical and nxt benefits such as draw distance don't play a role, so that's definitely discouraging. Thoughtless replacing 'just because nxt' is not a valid reason imo. At least I don't suck with images, though, I guess, thanks. That said, I'll de facto have to retire from the image business. Qualis artifex pereo! User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 21:23, August 30, 2016 (UTC)

Demonic Skull for RC[edit source]

Apparently, you added that it's 119k XP/hr here which is still on the page. Oddly, a search on youtube gives ~200k XP/hour instead: 190k, 200k, etc. Anything that might have such a large discrepancy? --Jlun2 (talk) 20:24, August 31, 2016 (UTC)

Re:Photoshop[edit source]

I would assume they're probably using the Quick-selection tool because it's quicker, instead of using the Polygonal-lasso tool with the Anti-Aliasing checkbox marked to to make their selections and masks. Quick select can be perfectly fine if they're refining their radii and using "Auto-Enhance" alongside it. But they really do need to be using auto-enhance to get smoother selection lines and masks. This requires more system resources however, so most users tend to leave it off unless they're using a professional grade PC. — Heaven Sent (talk) 16:42, September 14, 2016 (UTC)

Just to clarify a bit more, I do most of my Wiki-transparencies in GIMP because the outcome is better. Quick-selections work best when you have high-contracting colors between your subject and their background; what we get with depth-of-focus. For in-game screenshots without depth of focus, the backgrounds remain as clear as our subjects, making it much harder for the software to make clean selections as the two subjects intersect, or colors began to blend. This is what their tools should look like if they're going to be using Photoshop, but they should also be urged to use extreme caution when using quick-select to make large selections; it's probably best to use the Polygonal-lasso for fine details and in low-contrast areas. — Heaven Sent (talk) 17:27, September 14, 2016 (UTC)

Count[edit source]

The NPC is large, aye, but we don't enlarge chatheads just because NPCs are bigger, that makes no sense. Especially considering huge monstrosities like Vorago. :P Exceptions are File:Queen Black Dragon Head Detail.png and similar, but those aren't actually chatheads. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 16:22, October 4, 2016 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for the clarification, I was not aware of this (although I do have a peculiar sense of déja vu...but that isn't the first time). Let's conclude that it's a peculiarity of NXT, then, aye? Aye. I still fail to see how it's any better, seeing that, ignoring the size, the biggy-biggy-what-rhymes-with-biggy version cuts of the goatee and neck, in addition to lacking textures (presumably NXT uses directx, which has been unable to render chatheads correctly for a few years now, as opposed to opengl...) and lighting detail. So...that. :/. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 19:20, October 4, 2016 (UTC)
gentle poke User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 15:48, October 5, 2016 (UTC)
I don't recall NXT images' being preferred no matter what, as far as I know a YG thread established NXT images are allowed. But I could be wrong, don't hold me to that. Either way, I would say RS:UCS applies here. If a full version of the chathead (plus proper textures) is available, why not use it? I'm not a fan of the "it looks like this in-game" argument really, since (i) it does only in a certain game mode and (ii) nobody would say that if by some bug half of his head was missing. :s User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 17:16, October 5, 2016 (UTC)
Looking at page histories, that bit of RS:IMG was added in April, whereas the first proper discussion on whether to allow NXT images or not was in July and its consensus was that they should be allowed. I don't think it's ever been established that they should be preferred. RS:IMG should probably be amended... While in some cases it's obvious where, for instance, draw distance is concerned, in cases like this it's equally obvious that Java should be preferred, methinks. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 18:45, October 5, 2016 (UTC)
That would seem like a good idea then. Note that, as far as I was able to discern from its page history, RS:IMG has not actually been changed to reflect the outcome of that discussion, whereas the April edit had been made without any preceding discussion. Which is a bit odd, yeah. In any case, my personal recommendation would be to simply allow both and use common sense on an ad hoc basis to determine which is the best for a given image, or allow either if it makes no difference, rather than enforcing either of the two across the board. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 07:18, October 6, 2016 (UTC)
All righty, thanks. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 09:26, October 8, 2016 (UTC)

Reverts[edit source]

Hey why are you reverting my edits? Anything you find objectionable? (Heroes' Quest, Free-to-play Mining training)

You even deleted the images I took so much time to create. :(

Wonderfl (Reply) 08:38, October 12, 2016 (UTC)

Reverts[edit source]

Thank you! Very kind message you posted on my talk page. Yes, I was very annoyed that images I took many minutes to create were deleted just like that (the mining one was very elaborate, I drew the mine, the bank, and the route to get there). Anyways, nice site you have here. I'll keep posting as and when I can. Good job! Wonderfl (Reply) 16:30, October 13, 2016 (UTC)

Monsters template[edit source]

Hello again. I've created this template and would like some help with it. First up, please check out the revamped Pay-to-play Monsters section and see if you like it. Secondly, the template itself requires a bit of work. The notes must be hidden if there are no notes to display. How can that be done? Thanks and regards. Wonderfl (Reply) 07:05, October 22, 2016 (UTC)

Purple theme[edit source]

Can you please change the link color to this? #ffcb02 It looks better than the current one. Its a golden that complements the purple.

Regards Wonderfl (Reply) 12:16, October 24, 2016 (UTC)

Visual equipment guides[edit source]

Hi Isobel,

Do you care to see if you like the major additions I made to the Melee guides? I hope someone doesn't delete it outright. It took hours to craft properly. At least see if you like the idea.

Regards, Wonderfl (Reply) 13:59, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Strange children question[edit source]

About the strange girl revert, so you didn't loose it if you logged/lobbied? Also did it have a proper name? Because like Lairud said on my talk, I've copy+pasted it on strange boy. Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 21:34, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

I've checked in my CC, and a clannie said that it didn't disappear when logging/lobbying. Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 21:48, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

Stuffs[edit source]

Hi. D'you reckon something ought to be done about Grim Reaper, who has fifteen navboxes? And, completely irrelevantly, I made User:Fswe1/Vexillology. Do you think it might be useful for something in the mainspace? Arbitrary people I asked found it interesting, at the very least. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 18:53, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Nay, I don't mind, thanks. It would obviously me more than a gallery if used in mainspace, I imagine, and have some prose about flags and heraldry, as well as some text on development history. Main purpose would still be to showcase all the banners and flags and explain in detail what is on them and, if applicable, what that represents. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 08:09, November 15, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Map stuff[edit source]

Until I have my computer back, I can't really do anything proper to anything. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 17:35, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

Map tips?[edit source]

Hi! You seem to have some experience on making maps, so can you please help me on something? What would be a good way to connect warp points from 3 different maps of different sizes? I tried naively using lines to connect them, but since the maps are small, the lines overlap each other and become a mess. I also tried using shapes with numbers on them, but since the maps are from an old gameboy game, it seems to cover up the landmarks.

Any suggestions? 🙂 --Jlun2 (talk) 02:47, December 2, 2016 (UTC)

Armour vs equipment[edit source]

I chose to name it "armour" because the image is just of the armour, and it's impossible to get an image of all four pieces of Superior Vesta's equipment being worn at once. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 17:23, December 5, 2016 (UTC)

Tree Man posts message on Isobel's Talk Page[edit source]

Just to say thanks for your help. Woodcutting cape.png HS Exeter Fun Talk Woodcutting cape.png 18:17, December 7, 2016 (UTC)

the Wikian title[edit source]

Hello! Following the discussion at RuneScape:The Wikian, you have been granted the Wikian title! Please make arrangements with Gaz Lloyd to receive the title in game. If you could please add your in-game name to RuneScape:The Wikian/Users, it would be most appreciated. Thanks and congratulations! svco4bY.png3Gf5N2F.png 01:08, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you[edit source]

... for this, and for your kind words & support! JivaSoul (talk) 22:11, December 15, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Your comment on my title vote[edit source]

I know I've still got the title in the end but I'm just here to let you know that the permanent mute happened in August 2013, on my old account which I no longer use. I have been playing a separate Ironman since. Even other people agree that a permanent mute for saying "Markdonalds" once is obscene in itself, though I've moved on since of course as the account is now inactive. I'm just surprised you're holding something against me that happened three years ago. Ozank Cx 14:38, December 22, 2016 (UTC)

GIMP guide[edit source]

=D User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 12:19, December 31, 2016 (UTC)

🠝🠝🠝🠝🠝🠝🠝🠝🠝 — Heaven Sent (talk) 14:26, December 31, 2016 (UTC)

LD on images[edit source]

Yarr, why are you removing LD tags for NPC images that clearly have LD? As a matter of fact, it does interfere with the images, even if very slightly, as it changes the colours. This was all discussed, I believe, in 2010, and it was decided that LD should always be turned off for NPC/monster images and DIIs, since the wiki is supposed to show the proper look of the subjects, and not enhanced by external lighting. :) User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 08:46, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

The gnome ones (not sure which you mean by Coel's; the Cannonballs?) have very noticeable LD. I didn't realise IMG is ambiguous on the matter, had presumed it would outright prohibit LD given the last time this was brought up. Would it be worth starting a thread to solidify that? User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 18:13, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

DPL[edit source]

DPL guide Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 20:21, January 4, 2017 (UTC)

interface border template[edit source]

For easier transparency

Not sure if you need it for the transparency guide. --Jlun2 (talk) 11:25, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

Re:Vexillology[edit source]

No, it isn't (unless you count the banner on display at the Outpost, or the banner of Farradorn). However, heraldry is a thing, some flags have some (minor) lore attached to them and people (on Tweeter at least) found it an interesting read. So there's that. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 18:30, January 6, 2017 (UTC)

I had considered adding the information to the individual pages (with the dev history bits for the trivia section), but decided against it on the grounds that a central page listing all flags in-game would be neater for purposes of comparing different things. For readers interested in that, it's certainly a more convenient source than having to scour the individual pages for information, or look at the image category, which really isn't much more than an awkwardly formatted gallery without prose. Before I expanded the page beyond a few galleries, I had some people read it and they found in interesting, whence my decision to expand it to be mainspace-worthy (quality-wise, at least). That all said, whether the page is to remain arguably boils down to how RS:G (which has remarkably little information on anything that isn't an NPC/monster/item article/image...) is interpreted. Given that the page is not a stub and at least a handful of people found it worthwhile to read (and the subject is not trivial, even if not really featured in-game beyond being able to make your own heraldic standards, designing a clan vexillum, etc.), I would deem the article OK to be in mainspace but it goes without saying that I'm biased. You said you'd asked some people in the Discord server, did that yield any opinions? Perhaps the article could be expanded to be more relevant to in-game stuff by renaming it Heraldry and listing information about Renitee's services, the herald cape guys, family crests (Fitzharmon, Sinclair, ...), etc.? User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 09:43, January 7, 2017 (UTC)

Re:Wikian title[edit source]

Thanks for letting me know! ɳex undique 17:56, January 7, 2017 (UTC)

Calc guide?[edit source]

Do you know if someone is making a guide for Calculators? I don't know much about them, otherwise I'd make it. Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 07:56, January 19, 2017 (UTC)

Editing Guides And Such[edit source]

I noticed you're helping out with the RSW editing guides and I wanted to ask a couple things. A) Can I help out? Is there a project page that I'm too dumb to find? B) is there a guide for the game cache to see the NPC's and items and stuff? I have a loose grasp on it, but I want to know more about it without asking S:C all the time. --9xFavoY.pngScuzzy Betahib8CAd.png 20:28, January 19, 2017 (UTC)

Upcoming updates[edit source]

Could you fix the reference on the last entry please? I suck at using cite templates. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 20:58, January 20, 2017 (UTC)

Protean cog[edit source]

That one guy, some other users on Reddit[1], and I also asked around in Reddit FC about this and people confirmed that they got some right after the update when they were added to game. Again, no personal experience on the matter but to me the variety of people confirming it makes it very convincing. Also, the guy got the XP value right so if it really wasn't available, how could he have known that? Thingummywut (talk) 17:45, January 26, 2017 (UTC)

Re:PTS[edit source]

Go ahead. I'm keeping it archived in my mainspace, though. --9xFavoY.pngScuzzy Betahib8CAd.png 22:02, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

Re:Project ideas[edit source]

Works for me, thanks. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 06:47, February 10, 2017 (UTC)

Response[edit source]

I reverted because that is the official quote. I don't know if that quote was changed with the update. I don't even know where those official quotes come from, tbh. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 16:05, February 23, 2017 (UTC)

The Giant Dwarf[edit source]

The magic requirement was said to be not boostable here. But there's nothing in the update notes from the week of August 19, 2013 that suggests anything changed. I'm honestly inclined to revert the edit since it makes no sense and it's not referenced anywhere else on the article. --LiquidTalk 21:02, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Forum:Twitter refresh[edit source]

Hi, I've added your name to the list of users with access to @RSWiki and given you the [provisional] CoTag '^IJ' -- of course you can change that to whatever you'd like if you prefer. Smile Ronan Talk 09:47, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

Question reguarding maps[edit source]

I couldn't help but notice that some of the maps you've been uploading have been zoomed out from the previous revisions, kinda smushing the minimap icons together. I was just curious where the standard for this was set? Nothing wrong with it IMO, I'd just like to know why is all :P --9xFavoY.pngScuzzy Betahib8CAd.png 19:16, April 4, 2017 (UTC)

Crop[edit source]

Is there a way you can edit this to make it looks like this?. Also can GIMP edit pictures like that? Thankies. Santa hat.png Powers38 おはようヾ(´・ω・`) 19:05, April 5, 2017 (UTC)

It seems fuzzy. What do you think? File:Enchanted_Key_MH1_-_Grand_Exchange.png Santa hat.png Powers38 おはようヾ(´・ω・`) 22:25, April 5, 2017 (UTC)

User:IsobelJ/Dropping monsters list project[edit source]

Project is all done. The few pages left are spirit gems, which are included in the DPL because of some other template they have on the page (but dropping monsters are definitely included) and the sling, which has been discontinued. Not really sure what to do on that one, think Gaz said he'd think about it. Christine 17:53, April 23, 2017 (UTC)

Just kidding, I found many many more!! Outlined the new project on RuneScape:Maintenance/Project ideas. :) Christine 22:57, April 23, 2017 (UTC)

Farming Images Project[edit source]

Hey, I am really interested in your farming images project. If you don't have any problem, over the next few weeks I'll start uploading the growth stages for everything. Once question, you want the images uploaded to [2] right? Bpgartside (talk) 15:16, April 27, 2017 (UTC)Bpgartside (Superturtle2)

RE:Wikian title[edit source]

Hi, I would love to be nominated for the wikian title. Sorry for the late reply. CephHunter (talk) 15:22, May 16, 2017 (UTC)