User:Cqm/Archive 5

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Heads up[edit | edit source]

I patched that bug that was breaking tundra.edit and pushed it out as v0.2.1. It's additionally now possible to completely blank pages, because it wasn't before, by giving an empty string as the wikitext eg. tundra.edit("Page name", ""). tundra.delete and tundra.undelete are also now back in, because I accidentally left them out of v0.2.0 because I'm a silly person. Anyway, 0.2.1 is already being loaded on the wiki, so it's all perfectly usable. If you need assistance with implementing something with it, you know where to find me (my talk page). Also, while I'm still doing documentation, look at the tundra object in your console to see if certain functionality exists rather than just going off that obscenely incomplete list on the wiki. Matt (t) 11:45, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Also, if you want to work with the unminified version, you can just copy-paste this into your console and run it, because Tundra doesn't have a catch to see if it's already loaded. Matt (t) 11:49, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
I am actually terrible. Thank you for finding that, sir. I already pushed that patch out and it's already being loaded on the wiki. Two things though. Firstly, you see that object that gets logged out to the console with error messages? You can use a .fail callback to respond to errors with the data in that object, like this:
tundra.move("Old title", "New title").done(doSomething).fail(function(error) {
    // Handle error
The error is exactly the same as the object that gets logged out. Since moving a page throws an error if the page you're moving doesn't exist, you don't have to pre-check if the page exists, you can just do something like this (incorporating your code here):
tundra.move(pagename, newFilename, config).done(function () {
    console.log('file renamed');
}).fail(function (error) {
    if (error.code === 'missingtitle') {
        // The page didn't exist; respond to that in some way.
Second thing, in case the readme didn't make it clear, Tundra is supposed to be used like this:
mw.loader.using("tundra", function() {
    // Put your code that uses Tundra here.
Tundra does begin to load as soon as the import statement runs, but it's asynchronous, and in the short span of time of the page loading, it might not be finished loading yet by the time your script runs. Using mw.loader.using makes sure it is. Keep in mind that it's also asynchronous, and the function you give it won't necessarily be run at the same time as the code around it (it might be if it's already loaded, but please don't rely on it). Perhaps you can do something like, putting the code that creates on the form on the page inside mw.loader.using so it's ready and functional as soon as it appears and to reduce timing conflicts inside your own code. Matt (t) 12:43, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

God letters talk[edit | edit source]

Sorry, forgot to thank you for notifying me ;) Greatly appreciated :3 . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 18:51, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Chatlogs[edit | edit source]

I would just like to have all references to that name in search results etc removed for personal reasons. Hope you understand. :) Rankata28 (talk) 09:39, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Hur[edit | edit source]

o.o sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 23:21, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Yeys ^-^ sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 23:43, June 9, 2013 (UTC)
Yey it does ^-^ Good job & thanks. <3 sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 01:56, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

hi[edit | edit source]

<Hair> CÅM

you keep join/quitting in the chat. Please fix. Thanks. Hair 06:26, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

I saw it[edit | edit source]

And now that I have some juicy blackmail, I am going to make you my bitch. MolMan 15:21, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Desysop[edit | edit source]

Thanks for the explanation ;) Greatly appreciated . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 07:54, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Collapsible navboxes[edit | edit source]

Since the template is used alot, we can test out your changes in Template:Navbox2 first.   az talk   00:32, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

Can you change [Expand]/[Collapse] to [show]/[hide] (with s and h in small caps) per the earlier style? And please shift the v.d.e. links to the left by 5px, and the [show]/[hide] links to the right by 10px.   az talk   13:54, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
K, thx!   az talk   14:20, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

Re: pengLocations[edit | edit source]

I'll have a look at the updates. As for why I did some things a certain way, I kept as much of the previous code as possible and just added new functionality, rather than do a total re-write, even though the change was still extensive. --Saftzie (talk) 22:53, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

re:Conditionals for js[edit | edit source]

The Dropadd.js should load under the condition:

(wgPageName.match('/Charm_log') && $('#charmguide').length) || (!wgPageName.match('/Charm_log') && $('.charmtable').length)

The monstercalc.js needs this condition:

$('span#XPEach').length || $('span#GEPrice').length || $('span#killXP').length

That should work JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 13:54, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Your Bot and br-tags[edit | edit source]

I don't quite understand your response on this subject.

I'll note in advance (as Rich Farmbrough pointed out) that exchanging the standard-compliant format "<br />" for the equally standard-compliant format "<br>" in either direction is a trivial computational load, so if wikia prefers the former format, there is no real harm in converting all the wiki source to the latter format, and then having wikia convert it back before serving up pages.

In Chrome version 27, void tags, such as br, img and input, are not escaped. This is also true in version 21 of Firefox.

Odd. I also tried Chrome version 27 (on windows), Chrome 28 (on linux) and Firefox 21 (on both), as well as other browsers, and invariably saw wikia serving up pages with the self-closing format of the tag: "<br />".

Apparently it is up to the browser how the page is rendered.

What does this mean? On the one hand, it is tautological—a browser is a piece of software which renders html pages. On the other, if the suggestion is that browsers tweak their "View Source" output rather than displaying the actual source received over the wire, I didn't see that. I observed wikia's http responses both before and after processing by the browser, and didn't see any case where the "View Source" pane differed from the packet capture.

A third interpretation would be that how wikia parses the wiki source to produce html depends on some browser-specific feature, such as the User-Agent header. Again, I saw no evidence of this with respect to the <br> tag. Note that to minimize the chance that I was "corrupting" a page with an older browser, so that my newer browser received a cached version rather than a freshly parsed version, I chose pages from the top of Special:Contributions/Cblair91Bot.

the bot altering the tags is technically correct

or rather, it is technically not incorrect. It is implementing an aesthetic choice between two valid options, not a technical fix. Qloque (talk) 12:07, June 23, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, we're seeing the same thing, but using language differently.
wikisource →wikia→ html source →internetbrowser→ DOMtree →rendering→ browser window
So the html page source generated by wikia and delivered to the browser always contains break tags as "<br />" regardless of the formatting in the wiki source; while inspecting the parse tree generated by the browser shows a variety of results, depending on the browser and the inspector's preferred way of displaying a particular parse node. Qloque (talk) 22:42, June 23, 2013 (UTC)

Moving Exchange: pages[edit | edit source]

I see that you moved a few of the pages on Special:WantedPages atm to the right place. I was wondering whether moving Exchange-namespace pages requires special tools (because of the bots using them) or not - wouldn't want to ruin anything... Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 09:06, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Moving pages[edit | edit source]

Ow! I guess I shouldn't try fixing things if I can't do it properly. Won't ever happen again. Sorry! 5-x Talk 10:25, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

Oh well. It's a much more complex process than I thought it is and I don't think I can move pages without breaking something, so next time I'll ask someone else to do it rather than attempting it myself. 5-x Talk 10:41, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

Moving Pages[edit | edit source]

Hello, I saw you posted a message on Regis Dramen's talk page about moving pages. You probably noticed that I also attempted moving one of the teleport scrolls pages, it was me that saw they had changed in game and I asked Regis to show me how to move pages to change the names on wiki. I'm sorry we did not do it right and caused you more work. I still have some questions about your message, if you could answer them for me hopefully I can move pages correctly in future.

  1. If I check Special:WhatLinksHere how will I tell when there is a double redirect?
  2. If there is a double redirect how should I fix it?
  3. Does a wanted page also occur when a link on a moved page is broken or does it only occur for a broken exchange price? If its only for exchange prices that break what happens to other types of broken links in articles?
  4. How do you fix wanted pages?

Maybe if there is a guide on moving pages you can just point it out to me instead. Thanks Magic logs detail.pngIsobelJTalk page 10:37, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

I think understand now, thanks alot :) Magic logs detail.pngIsobelJTalk page 14:50, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

Hai[edit | edit source]

User talk:Fswe1#Campfire Q&A. Have fun. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 08:44, June 28, 2013 (UTC)

Talk:God Letters should be closed as consensus for option 2 per John Ayliff's statement, and, well, the consensus. Do we need a(nother) sysnub for that or can we just go ahead and get it over with? User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 17:27, June 30, 2013 (UTC)

RE: collapsible wikitable in userspace[edit | edit source]

do you know why the collapsible wikitables in userspace shows "Expand/Collapse" instead of "show/hide" (such as in User:AzBot)?   az talk   06:09, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

Collapsible[edit | edit source]

I think I like whatever scripts we had before for collapsible tables. As I remember it, the expanding and collapsing was rather smooth. With the mw- default ones, I can see each element being created/destroyed. It ain't pretty. MolMan 23:48, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

Okay, so I'll have to live with the ugly? FYI, I didn't literally mean it when I said destroyed, lol. MolMan 23:56, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Basilisk safe spot[edit | edit source]

Yeah, I had them as a slayer task yesterday and, due to the Fremennik Slayer Dungeon's graphical update, they were no longer present. Temujin 04:56, July 7, 2013 (UTC)

Suggestion[edit | edit source]

"CiteATL" - pro or contra? :) User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 06:44, July 7, 2013 (UTC)

To elaborate on that, the most important difference from CiteGeneral would be the "episode" parameter, which would automatically add both the URL and the title of the respective episode. Provided the template is updated every x weeks, of course. Alternatively, we could just keep the url and title parameters, have a postdate parameter, perhaps a minute parameter ("Relevant information around the ___st/nd/rd/th minute."), one for the mod(s) who said it and, of course, accessdate, name and notes. How's that? User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 06:47, July 7, 2013 (UTC)
Okay - would you prefer the episode parameter or url+title? I was thinking to just copypaste the code for other citing templates and adjust where necessary, without using the podomatic thing at all. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 09:53, July 7, 2013 (UTC)
I tried something at User:Fswe1/Laboratory, but failed miserably. Basically, it needs the optional minute parameter and {{#if:}}'s for th episode parameter, assigning urls and titles to the episode numbers we have got so far (0 included). If you find some free time, please do mess with it. =3 User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 19:31, July 7, 2013 (UTC)
Superb. I did some stuff with it and added a test reference. It seems to work as far as a reader is concerned, but it keeps bugging me about unclosed brackets and I can't seem to find them. :P Should we add the name and notes parameters? Alternatively, we could make the name something like "atl#" using vardefine, since that seems to work well. :P Then again, on Sliske, the same ATL apisode is referenced twice, but using different minutes. I can imagine that would produce troublez. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 06:35, July 8, 2013 (UTC)
What would we do without you? :P I'll try to add the name parameter by copypasting. If I fail miserably, we'll blame Cook. Other than that, I think it's pretty much finished. =3 Luckily, there aren't that many instances where CiteGeneral is used for ATL, so it shouldn't take too much time to replace it. If I feel particularly bored, I might even go about filling in the quote parameter. ;P User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 08:43, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

re: common.js and stuff[edit | edit source]

Do you have a mockup of what it would like (or can you make one)? Matt (t) 23:37, July 7, 2013 (UTC)

Closure[edit | edit source]

It needs some clarification, badly.

The option to allow use of the script on secondary bot accounts was suggested but has not gathered consensus

Ummmmm what? That's what we do now... Use a secondary bot account for automated edits. And of course it would be "allowed". Trust is on the person, not the account. If we trust someone to be temporarily flagged, we trust them to use another account. What I brought up was forcing large scale usage to be done on a separate account.

With this in mind, there will be no change to the existing system of requesting bot flags

Was that referring to the aforementioned script? Or does it mean only crats will be able to assign the flag now? It can be read both ways. Are you saying we don't need to allow admins to flag bots because the thread that spawned this one was not closed as successful? Or are you saying we don't need to change the methods to include forcing a secondary account?

Frankly, not forcing a secondary account is silly. Interpretations of consensus aside, that proposal had no opposition (reasonable or otherwise), was perfectly logical, and it's almost exactly status quo; it only adds another script for use under a bot flag.

What? MolMan 01:17, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Money making guides, part 3[edit | edit source]

So, I'm having a bit of trouble with the archives and the "Money making guides, part 3" forum. I can't seem to get it to archive. The DPL I use should be working correctly. Can you look into this? Thanks =D Blaze_fire.png12.png 04:33, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Never mind. Today's update to WantedPages just showed that the naming parameter was messed up on the actual forum page. It's good now! Blaze_fire.png12.png 07:41, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Collapsible issues[edit | edit source]

I'm having issues with Template:Userboxes. Temujin 11:19, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

Bah[edit | edit source]

Y u change name. You'll always be Cåm for me. <3 User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 11:45, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

Cqm is a stupid name. How am I meant to pronounce that? Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 12:35, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
Ask Paul M or Osborne, they'll figure it out. Unfortunately, I'm hearing "cockum" in my head. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 13:48, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

BlackList[edit | edit source]

It's to prevent shitty, alloneword file names like that from being created. Btw, You're a noob. MolMan 16:33, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

Update site notice now[edit | edit source]

Forum:Feedback for Jagex

I don't think there's been a more perfect time. MolMan 17:51, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

Preview mode[edit | edit source]

The Mol Man and i were talking yesterday about Preview mode when editing a page and how it is glitched. I don't completely understand it, he was saying something about JavaScript and yeh....he kinda lost me. Prior to that, as in the last few days, Preview HAD been working for me. And by all this i am talking specifically about the infobox glitch. It was the first time it had worked correctly and then it just decided to stop. Anyway, Mol said you might be able to help? or know something that would help?

Thank you =] for putting a word in to matt and taking the time to explain it to me.

Mike111b (talk) 03:04, July 12, 2013 (UTC) Mike111b (talk) 18:00, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

RE: itemId in Template:ExchangeItem[edit | edit source]

Yeah, my bad. I wasn't planning on removing that parameter FROM the exchange pages, but just its use as a switch parameter in ExchangeItem. Hadn't realised it was still being used... thanks for the fix!   az talk   21:41, July 12, 2013 (UTC)


Matt (t) 08:43, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

Cites[edit | edit source]

I was just thinking... Maybe we could do something for CitePostbag and -GodLetters that automatically adds title and link to the given issue? It'd be a lot of work to replace everything though... User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 09:28, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not Cook though. :P User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 09:37, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
I have no idea where else to post this. Feel free to use. {{CiteForum|url=|title=Bacon Quest - FAQ|author=Mod Phoenix|postdate=15 July 2013|accessdate=~~~~~|name=baconfaq|forum=Recent Game Updates}} User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 19:42, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

Re: pengLocations (redux)[edit | edit source]

I've gone over the pengLocations code you had a github. I've fixed bugs (=== required some type conversions, the cookie init code got lost somehow, etc.) and tweaked a little, including the whitespace for the comments. You can copy and paste from User:Saftzie/Beta.js into [[MediaWiki:Common.js/pengLocations.js]]. One of the tweaks is to use classes for the row highlighting instead of the cssText attribute. The two new entries in MediaWiki:Common.css (or imported thereto) are:

/* light tables */
/* mouse over */
tr.highlight-over { background-color: #ccc !important; }
/* light on (light off = no class) */
tr.highlight-on { background-color: #cfc !important; }

If you don't like the class names and decide to change them, there are two variable declarations in the js that also need to be changed.

I've also put some work into an update to [[MediaWiki:Common.js/highlightTable.js]] along the same lines. The updated code should also make it less annoying for people who hop between pages with light tables. It needs a bit of testing, though, so it could be a little while yet. --Saftzie (talk) 04:08, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

There can be multiple light tables on multiple pages. I think the biggest complaint people have about the current code is that the highlighting on one table gets applied to all tables, even across pages. The way I have the js written now, it mostly just lifts the pengLocations code (which is how Quarenon pretty much did it, I think), but with a different monolithic cookie that supports multiple tables on multiple pages. There's a decision to be made if a different cookie for each individual table is desirable. I also thought about using bits for on/off (instead of a whole character), although I haven't implemented that as of now. The cookie part is modular enough that changes shouldn't be too big a deal. At the moment, I just need to test the basic code, though. --Saftzie (talk) 20:39, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

I think I'm essentially done with the code to update [[MediaWiki:Common.js/highlightTable.js]]. I've put my current version in User:Saftzie/Beta.js.
  • Rather than a separate browser cookie for each table (or even each page), there are up to 16 browser cookies (maximum).
    • Each cookie covers several pages, based on the hashed page name, and all the tables on those pages. They're named lightTable-hexdigit, where hexdigit is the first hex digit of the hash of the page name. I think having a separate cookie for every table or every page could potentially be too many cookies, but having only one would keep anything from expiring if the user kept using any light table anywhere. 16 seems like a reasonable compromise to me.
    • I use a 32-bit Castagnoli crc for the hash. A crc uses minimal coding to calculate. The Castagnoli crc has optimal collision avoidance and uniform distribution in a 32-bit crc.
  • The CSS classes are the same ones that pengLocations uses. That was always my intent. No change is required to MediaWiki:Common.css, although you might want to change the "pengLocations only" comment to include light tables.
  • The browser cookie content is a string composed of the page name hashes and Base64url-encoded binary data for the rows' selection status, so each table still has its own data.
There's a lot of new code compared to the old code, but most of it is cookie handling. None of it runs unless there's at least one light table in the article. Cookie data is only stored if the user manipulates the light table in some way. Just loading/viewing the article doesn't create a cookie. For the 39 articles in Mainspace that have light tables, if every page gets cookie data, there would be 685 bytes of data. Of course, I wouldn't expect a user to visit every page with a light table and store a cookie, but the number of pages with light tables could grow, too.
So, do we just want to slam it in or try to get some good will first? --Saftzie (talk) 06:16, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

Please help me understand[edit | edit source]

When you read this (sourced and said by Jagex themselves) and it responded with this this, does this attitude not only invite a RS:3RR - it explicitly says to talk about it - but is also iffy when considering: RuneScape:Status and opinion-weight, RuneScape:User treatment policy/RuneScape:Don't be a dick? I don't want edit wars, but an admin basically refuses. . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 13:24, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for answering in such length ;) Don't worry, I wasn't accusing you of it. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough.
I agree with you that the case may not be clear cut... but that's exactly why people should talk about it and try to reach a consensus. And that is exactly why I was ... 'so shocked' to see Fswe1 did not want to talk about it. You also asked me who the admin was, well to my best knowledge Fswe1 is an admin... or something like that.
As you can see in the table below, the article was reverted/edited several times. I was only aware of it being removed once (I didn't check the history page until just now. As I said, the 3RR says people should talk if they disagreed. Fswe1 said is won't and that I just have to listen to him - this breaks 3RR and also the RS:weight of opinion thingy (what I said above). Below is a table with info on who reverted the item Fswe1 does not want to talk about, as you can see: everybody listed only reverted once, except for Fswe1 and Lord Nexius - they reverted twice. I hope this makes you understand my discontent with Fswe1's reaction. So to me this: "it could be said that you and Fswe were both in violation of 3RR" is not exactly the complete picture: he reverted double the times as I did and he also denied to talk about it.
Name # revering 'evil'
Me 1
you 0 so don't worry ;)
Chaos dark1 1
Fswe1 2
Ciphrius Kane 1
Lord Nexius 2
As for the content (the interpretation of alignment/philosophy or mere association) I would like to talk about it, especially since you brought up Zamorak and Saradomin (for more info, see this)... anyway, I think that should happen more on a public forum place, and not user talk pages - since more people seem to disagree xD . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 10:56, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

Just to clarify[edit | edit source]

You're still a ****. RSN: Warthog Rhys Talk Completionist's cape... Coming soon. 10:38, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

Did you know there's a symbol for this? Píča. TYL MolMan 21:51, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

remove delay and transition effects in collapsibles[edit | edit source]

Can you look into whether we can remove the delay (when "hide" is clicked) and the transition effects (when "show" is clicked). I have to agree with User:The_Mol_Man above that I liked our old collapsibles more than this current one. Thx!   az talk   13:15, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

The show/hide text sometimes interchange... it shows "hide" when it should show "show", and vice versa...   az talk   03:33, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
When collapsibles are nested, i.e. Grand_Exchange_Market_Watch/Adjustments the table rows in the inner table disappear.   az talk   04:14, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

RS:EXCHANGE[edit | edit source]

GED works again, but could you check RS:EXCHANGE and see if I missed doing anything...

  1. Was the MediaWiki:Common.css edit button removed?
  2. Some of the steps in that page needs to be slightly more detailed for noobs like me.
  3. Some steps need to be modified/removed such as:
    • the ones with "MediaWiki:Group-autoconfirmed.js". Should there be a script there? Couldn't find any...
  4. And please add steps on how to reverse the process as well, or just a checklist.

Thanks.   az talk   01:33, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

Old file pages[edit | edit source]


MediaWiki:Common.css[edit | edit source]

Currently says ...

 * Light tables
 * Classes currently only applied by peng locations script

... but they're used by highlightTable.js now, too. It's not a big deal, since it's just a comment. Thanks for pushing the script, too. --Saftzie (talk) 23:08, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

Pado dialogue[edit | edit source]

What token do you have? MolMan 14:12, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

collapsible[edit | edit source]

So I did a search for all the mainspace pages that still use collapsible instead of mw-collapsible (using the regex class\s*=\s*"?.*[^-]collapsible) and here's what I cqme up with. Maybe you wanna run your bot to fix it? I know I sure as hell don't feel like doing that. MolMan 12:52, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Icons[edit | edit source]

Just merge them with the current files (why they were uploaded separately is a mystery). This ipad is too weak to handle GU, or mearly any other page for that matter, and it's all I've got on holiday. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 15:56, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

GEcharts[edit | edit source]

Are broken. You fucking broke it. I hope you feel terrible. Pages don't even load. You should feel bad about yourself. Bad cam! BAD! MolMan 21:50, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

LOL. This applies, methinks.   az talk   10:49, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
^just because something achieves a purpose doesn't mean that it's not ugly or inefficient or couldn't achieve that purpose better (I'm not actually sure of the context but that's just my two cents). By the way Cam, did you still want assistance? I saw in the chat logs you were all like "mattchew halp pls" but I left like right before you said that so I didn't see it. Matt (t) 11:02, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
Are you too busy to come into s:c? Matt (t) 11:40, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
Well, it was working up to June, at least. I don't know when it stopped working, and what changed. @Matt, when you fix something, you have to make sure its actually better, not left in a worse state than it was before. Just my two cents.   az talk   12:48, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

Baroo[edit | edit source]

I didn't know that you were the owner of a pet yak. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 02:41, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

Immortality[edit | edit source]

Hello. I have a question, is Saradomin immortal in terms of age? Because if he can't die by age, then he's ageless, which is a synonym for immortal.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kingjohnrocks (talk) on 19:31, August 4, 2013.

Talk page headers[edit | edit source]

Do you think it'd be possible to do this? sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 05:11, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

GECharts expand chart popup[edit | edit source]

I'll have a look at it, in a moment if you haven't got someone else to do it during my holiday yet. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 15:28, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

Active Discussions[edit | edit source]

There is an issue I've noticed with Active Discussions. For the YG section, the only active YG thread was edited twice on the 14th and once today, yet it says the last edit was on the 11th. <.< sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 19:22, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the Handheld.css hack![edit | edit source]

I saw a link to your Handheld.css hack on the [[:w:Thread:536204|Mobile CSS and JS thread]] at Community Central. Just wanted to let you know I imported it to [[:w:c:dnd4:MediaWiki:Wikiamobile-menu|D&D4 Wiki]] and it works great. Thanks! Rigel Kent (talk) 02:03, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

Name change[edit | edit source]

Hi, I'm thinking about changing my name here (because nobody can spell it), and I'm not sure what I need to do after the change. I have read the community central help: page so I know how to change the name itself, but I'm not sure what kind of things I need to change as well - and since you've done it recently I thought I'd ask you :-) Does it suffice to just redirect personal pages (eg userspace, sig template) to their new locations or is there more involved?

Thanks for your time :) Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 15:14, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

Never mind, Ansela helped me. Thanks anyway though :) Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 15:31, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

Preloads[edit | edit source]

Don't work. MolMan 23:52, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

Oh? So I should just give you all the answers? Did your math teacher give you all the answers too? MolMan 23:58, August 18, 2013 (UTC)
Difference in language semantics betwixt our regions. GOML MolMan 00:01, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
I love you, you silly crumpet. MolMan 00:10, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

Youtube[edit | edit source]

:( Suppa chuppa Talk 20:24, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

Also, seems that gadgets don't get loaded on special pages (if they do, then I have no idea what's wrong), so [[MediaWiki:Gadget-AddContribs.js]] might need to be un-gadgeted. Suppa chuppa Talk 21:32, August 20, 2013 (UTC)

Is it just me or did this edit mess up the sitenotice? Suppa chuppa Talk 02:33, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

What did you do to the css :( New article stuff is broken. Suppa chuppa Talk 04:30, September 2, 2013 (UTC)
Cool, looks like that fixed it. New article stuff as in when you create an article and it gives you preload options, but that also seems to be fixed now. Thanks. Suppa chuppa Talk 15:20, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Archives[edit | edit source]

I dunno, got a little bored. It was a one time ever thing ;) MolMan 12:13, August 27, 2013 (UTC)

My judgement has been off (moreso than usual) because I've been tired and feeling kinda ill. I got a good sleep last night and woke up feeling better though. No excuse, just an explanation. I'm honestly surprised I haven't done anything to get myself a short block. MolMan 12:55, August 27, 2013 (UTC)

Is that you, Cåm?[edit | edit source]

Just wondering because Cåm's signature looks exactly like yours. Anyways you think you could re-do the CSS for the Statbox template? It's kinda messy as it was designed for the previous look and as you can see the new background has the section near the bottom for total level. Mainly the padding between the cells can be fixed. Kind regards, --BrenRS (talk) 00:49, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

He is Cåm. -- Recent uploads SpineTalkGuest book 00:50, August 29, 2013 (UTC)

q[edit | edit source]

Your name hasn't been changed to Cqm yet here. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 16:23, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks :) Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 19:25, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

DPL url variables[edit | edit source]

Equipment tables. Try any one of those pages. The url variables (namely offset and count here — the clickable ones) are just not working. I'm sorry to leave you in the dark again, but all I know is they don't work at all and that they definitely did work some time before with the exact same wikicode on the page. I'm kinda pissed about, too. I figured I'd ask you because you might be able to find the problem. I'm really thinking the blame's on Wikia in some way, but I want to be sure before I bitch at any devs. Also, who knows? Maybe you can fix it! ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ MolMan 13:38, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

You're the man. Also: Your chinchompa is ready for feeding. MolMan 21:16, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Aura detail images[edit | edit source]

I know they were unused, but I was trying to keep those around and find a place to put them. I feel like they really should be used somewhere. Suppa chuppa Talk 08:05, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

Oh. Eh, alright then. I don't really mind either way. Suppa chuppa Talk 08:11, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Bucket buttons[edit | edit source]

Bucket buttons used to refer to a now(?) nonexistent signature button that did exist during this edit. Ryan PM 19:23, September 12, 2013 (UTC)

RE: AzBot request[edit | edit source]

no, i'm not willing to add the task to AzBot. perhaps some other bot ops are interested... p.s. you broke Template:Youtube. the videos aren't loading ...   az talk   02:14, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

my two cents? anybody running AWB can handle this.
  1. get a list of pages from Special:NewPages, specifically from the Talk namespace.
  2. remove/skip all pages already containing "talkpageheader".
  3. prepend "talkpageheader" to remaining pages.
  az talk   02:20, October 5, 2013 (UTC)
AzBot is started manually as well, so... it wouldn't have helped. from what I can see from new talkpage creations, the current script seem to be working... and some users are already adding the talkpageheader manually... so its okay i guess?   az talk   08:31, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

broke the js[edit | edit source]

Your latest edit broke the js. Suppa chuppa Talk 22:14, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

There are no errors in the console, but switch infobox doesn't work. Suppa chuppa Talk 22:15, October 4, 2013 (UTC)
The GE graphs seem broken and are not appearing... in infoboxes and Exchange pages.   az talk   08:40, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

on advice of Fswe1[edit | edit source]

Why are there sometimes red asterisks when citing sources... (see e.g. the RefList of Abbinah)?  . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 13:57, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

No worriews, no worries, I'm a little busy my self too :P And I din't even notice my talk page being gone, so that's alright too :P I'll read adn respond later. Anway, thanks!  . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 05:51, October 11, 2013 (UTC)
Doesn't the red asterisk appear when a reference webpage's last access date is older than XX days (around a month or so)? IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 06:04, October 11, 2013 (UTC)

GED not updating[edit | edit source]

this.   az talk   06:44, October 11, 2013 (UTC)

RE: RS:AR#File:Death.png[edit | edit source]

Does anything still need to be done there, or can it be removed? svco4bY.png3Gf5N2F.png 14:20, October 16, 2013 (UTC)

Hey[edit | edit source]

hey try to get back to me fast as possible becasue we are getting irritated with runescape 3 not allowing my girlfriend`s acc log in at all this is her second one. my name on rc is Andrewjackpo. 20:42, October 20, 2013 (UTC) Andrew.M

scripts don't work when editing/preview[edit | edit source]

scripts don't work when editing/preview (in monobook) i.e. action=edit and action=submit

is this by design... or a bug?   az talk   14:02, October 12, 2013 (UTC)

yeah, the second comment you made. for example, when editing/previewing Exchange:Test or Exchange:Test/Data.
another example is when you embed youtube videos. we used to be able to check if it was the correct video when previewing/before saving... but now we can't... since the script doesn't work during preview.   az talk   08:53, October 16, 2013 (UTC)
thanks... someone actually put me in the inactive list.   az talk   08:27, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Duff's device[edit | edit source]

It's a way of performing loop unwinding without requiring the number of statements that you use when unwinding to divide the total number of iterations. For example, if you have 19 executions of a statement, you can unwind to 5 (i.e. your for/while block has this statement copied 5 times). You then apply the case prefixes, which is how the code deals with remainders. The first time, 4 statements will be executed instead of 5 since the switch will jump to the second statement. The remaining 3 times will execute all 5 statements, resulting in the statement executing 19 times. Just out of curiosity, what do you need this for? This is really more useful for low-level memory operations in C where possibilities of branch misprediction could potentially slow down code execution. Suppa chuppa Talk 23:16, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I found a good discussion that explains how it works better than I was able to on stackoverflow. Suppa chuppa Talk 23:17, November 4, 2013 (UTC)
Ah, okay lol. Suppa chuppa Talk 23:38, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

So uhm...[edit | edit source]

You think you'd be able to figure out why the compare item / ge chart overlay interfere with each other? If you click to see the chart and then click out of the box (regardless of clicking on the x or not), then when you click Compare item to compare stats it will not get rid of the grey overlay. Is it possible you can implement the slow fading out of the overlay for the compare item one? Also, make it so you don't haaaave to click the x. --BrenRS (talk) 22:47, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

So buggy[edit | edit source]

Could you just reprogram [[MediaWiki:Common.js/warbandstimer.js|the entire script]]? It just randomly changes to different times... Thanks --BrenRS (talk) 00:05, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Well the way the timer should work is it auto resets every 7 hours... it counts down from 6:50:00 and when it hits 0:00:01, it changes to "Warbands is currently active blah blah" for a total of 10 mins. When the 10 mins is over, it should go back to 6:50:00. If you need a reference, see --BrenRS (talk) 01:12, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Autocomplete[edit | edit source]

Hey Cqm, is it possible for you to put autocomplete for Special:Upload for Old School RSW as well? -- Recent uploads SpineTalkGuest book 01:13, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. :3 --Recent uploads SpineTalkGuest book 20:37, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Edit summaries[edit | edit source]

Ah, I didn't mean for that to be flaming, I meant it in a "friendly" kind of way, if that makes sense. I would have said something similar if it was say, Fswe who made a similar edit. For that edit specifically I didn't believe a descriptive edit summary was neccessary, as the page actually stated that you merely visited your memories of it, and indeed, if Leon had visited it, he would have known that. Regardless, I'll be more careful in future. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 11:11, November 20, 2013 (UTC) 

Also, have a cabbage: Cabbage detail.png Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 11:21, November 20, 2013 (UTC)
Technically this means you like me. Yay! =3 User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 16:13, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

RE[edit | edit source]

I did a google search, and what it said was that the website not only exists, but is known to give out a hijacker virus. Better safe than sorry What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 00:32, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Idiot[edit | edit source]

Is me. I was trying to leave you a message on my iPod... but I did it on your user page. FML, I've been pretty derpy as of late. Sorry about that. If you could check out the message in your user page history that'd be great. Maybe copy it over since iPod copy/paste is a bitch. I bet anyone watching RC is having a good laugh at me. :c MolMan 17:02, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Said message copied from userpage history:

Hi. The next time you clean up MediaWiki:Common.css or whatever, can you remove the comment about the image in the [[Template:Recolours]] comment block. The imgur link doesn't exist anymore, but this also isn't any big deal. At the same time, a dead link just doesn't need to be there? So just remove it as a side task the next time you tinker with the sheet. Please?
MolMan 16:57, November 24, 2013 (UTC)
"transcludable stylesheets"
That name just sounds awesome. What exactly are they? MolMan 22:11, November 24, 2013 (UTC)
Okay. That's honestly what I was thinking it was, and it is pretty neat-o, but I won't get my hopes up for editing those fully protected mediawiki pages for transclusion. MolMan 23:01, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Random[edit | edit source]


Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 21:57, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

do you even modern programming languages[edit | edit source]

I've been lurking around in the shadows of [[w:c:dev]] for quite a while, and I just wanted to say this:

 * Consider the difference between these two snippets.

var namespaceNumber = mw.config.get("wgNamespaceNumber");

// ========================================

var namespacesToRunOn = {
    0: 1,
    1: 1

if (namespacesToRunOn[namespaceNumber] === 1) {

// ========================================

var namespacesToRunOn = [

if (namespacesToRunOn.indexOf(namespaceNumber) > -1) {

Seriously -- what have you been smoking? Matt (t) 09:28, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

Are you available to come into the land of [[Special:Chat|s:c]]? Matt (t) 09:56, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

GED not updating[edit | edit source]

just dropped by to say that the GED has stopped updating... fyi, 60 items were added on 26 november so that could be the cause.   az talk   01:12, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

please do it NOW.... its already Saturday 08:41 (UTC). other users are already manually updating the prices!   az talk   08:42, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

re:addOnloadHook[edit | edit source]

I said it was native JS in my edit summary, because addOnloadHook uses only native js as far as I know. But, if that's deprecated, can't we use something that's in mw? Unless that link you put in there (which I can't see since I'm not a council member) has another way that works everywhere perfectly though.

For testing it in IE8, I could test it at school, since they still have IE9 there, which has an option in the F12 interface to view it as IE8. It doesn't work perfectly (it has console.log in IE6/7 mode for example, which wasn't there in the actual IE6/7), but if it works in that mode, then it's probably going to work in the real IE8 too. I'll test that tomorrow.

For the agent detection, you can use the navigator object, which makes it possible to detect IE via this top answer's method. To detect if the ~ selector works though, you could simply do document.querySelector('head ~ body') == document.body, since the document.querySelector works by selecting the elements that are recognised as a match by the browser. After googling just to be sure that would definitely work, I found this, which confirms that. I think this is the best solution to detecting if a browser should have the JS alternative enabled. I'm not sure if that detection would also detect if it works buggy or not. So, if IE7/8 work buggy, they might test positive for the querySelector test, while still not working for the switch infobox.

PS: I'm not sure if the alternative script really works when there are multiple switch infoboxes on the page. I'll have a look at that tomorrow, since I only just realised that might be a problem. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 00:31, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

I've tested it in IE8 and changed it back to work on click of a label, but I've made it ignore the checkboxes altogether (so still no setTimeout), because IE8 doesn't like <label>s, for some reason. Part of the reason it doesn't work is that IE8 just doesn't change the checkbox that's checked. The major problem for IE8 though, it turns out, is that IE8 doesn't support :checked (it does recognise ~ in the document.querySelector, but not :checked). A way to check if the browser has support for that is apparently just to run document.querySelector(':checked'), which returns an error if it's not supported. Also, the PS thing I said is fixed now. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 11:40, December 11, 2013 (UTC)

Template:Coins[edit | edit source]

Have you ever seen this template used in mobile skins? It's pretty bad. The numbers are prefixed with crap like &000000000000... (I'm certain this is for sorting) and the image causes odd line heights (this is most noticeable on handheld devices). The latter problem is less of an issue, but I really believe the former issue needs a fix. Actually, all sorting numbers that are hidden normally are visible on the mobile skin (at least as far as I know); however (also as far as I know), only Template:Coins is ever used in the body of articles. That's the biggest issue, but fixing what displays in tables is still a problem, albeit less important. MolMan 01:42, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

I could mention that I'm using particularly old iOS, but I don't think that's relevant because every other fix you've done to wikia mobile has worked fine for me; however, it does work on my newer iOS (I have 2 devices huehue). Maybe the mobile skin update (which I absolutely hate) broke this version's compatability. I did do a little more digging and found that the other sorts display on the skin. There's also the line-height problem with the image. Okay, thanks for replying, and at least the minor issues make my messages not a complete waste of your time. Can we perhaps hide the image on mobile and have coins display after the number (without, of course, changing the way it displays in normal skins)? MolMan 02:27, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Armadyl[edit | edit source]

Definitely a glitch. I've turned VisualEditor off since then as it's a pain to use anyway. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 11:41, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

IP Targeted JS[edit | edit source]

Just want to run this by you, a couple weeks ago, I was looking into running JS based on a given IP (for the purpose of my script, Jagex). I am no good with setting up cookies and don't know how to make a script run once per session rather than each time a specific page is accessed.

Preferably, it would only be seen when attempting to edit a page the first time on a given session. I'm also still getting used to how Common.js and Wikia.js new syntax works. I hope this isn't too much work but I'd like to get it up to par with what we have before anything else is done. Thanks, Ryan PM 13:00, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

Okay. Well then I'll just send Infinity another email regarding Authenticated accounts. As for the script, we already use offsite scripts that might already do the same thing, just more quietly. But I digress, the intention of the script is lost when it comes down to the only collecting of IP information is on the client side and not ours but this might be disputed. It was a dirty way of a backbone or barebone local copy of Special:Censor (eventually) from Wikipedia. Guess it wasn't a bright idea. Ryan PM 23:23, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

Re: forumheader params[edit | edit source]

Because "meta" links to "Category:Forum archives/meta" and "Meta" links to "Category:Forum archives/Meta". The first one is a red link. Blaze_fire.png12.png 05:10, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

On my home page image Blaze_fire.png12.png 02:13, December 16, 2013 (UTC)

scripts broken?[edit | edit source]

ge charts are not loading in infoboxes...   az talk   13:39, December 16, 2013 (UTC)

seems to have resolved itself. sorry for bugging u.   az talk   03:22, December 17, 2013 (UTC)

JS trix[edit | edit source]

Here, I wrote teh JS trix down for chu :3 (I was kinda bored as you can see) JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 00:01, December 17, 2013 (UTC)

RS:AD[edit | edit source]

I assume you left the comment about testing regex? What's there to test really? I think my latest edit to it should be the most efficient way to do it.

Also, Forum:Proposal: Add weakness to bestiary information - you promised... MolMan 19:37, December 19, 2013 (UTC)