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Archive This page is one of my talk page archives, archiving from 3 January to 31 March 2010. Please do not edit the contents of this page. Leave all messages on my current talk page instead. If a discussion you were looking for that took place between January and March 2010 is not here, check my current talk page.

Thanks[edit | edit source]

Lol i was completely unaware of the hs link not working......thanks :) --

Runecrafting MythbustermaTalk   HSCabbage.png<= BRASSICA PRIME

00:40, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Berty[edit | edit source]

Berty was definitely linked to from Postbag #21. The image was pulled from either runescape.com or jagex.com alongside which there was the do-it-yourself-at-home-and-not-in-pixels crafting of paper instructions. I recall there being some reference to user suggested crafting levels as well as Postie Pete's crafting level of 1. Looking at the date embedded in the image (21:44, 2007 July 15) as well as the external link i had put in the Berty article, it likely was indeed part of Postbag #21. Note that the news update references Baba Yaga in Postbag 21, yet the current version of the Postbag on the RS website does not. This edit of the Baba Yaga article shows where the paper crafted house was originally noted. After reading the Baba Yaga article i sought out and found the crafting instructions, yet never printed nor saved. Along with finding them I found the photo. It would appear that Jagex took out the bit about Baba Yaga from Postbag #21, as the update does indeed reference Baba Yaga, yet the Postbag itself does not.

All in all it was rather interesting imo, but i never took the time to print it out (i'm such a pixel geek and am starting to believe i am allergic to dead tree pulp, although i'll still hug a live tree now and then, mainly to sharpen my claws, which reminds me i need a mani/pedi, but i digress). Naturally i've searched high and low for more info pointing to the original source, and am coming up dry (such is the nature of the interwebs, they aren't carved in wood, er printed on stone, er w/e), Jagex has, of course, moved everything around in the past years, and i'm guessing that finding the original version of it will be more difficult than a needle in a haystack. ~kytti khat 22:46, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Kill plox[edit | edit source]

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These people need to be ignored for repeated trolling/spamming. POHJLBucket detail.pngrwojy 00:44, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

I second that as an eye witness of most of the events that last comments pertains too. Perhaps a month ban? Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 00:54, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
In addition, a user named "killjoydanie" came in and spammed a bit. I would ban him temporarily (like, a weak). Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 01:41, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure, but it might be 'rangedaddy9'. Arckadus has 3 other accounts, arcadus, arccadus, and arcccadus. There might be a k after the c's, not too sure. TCGHTABucket detail.pngrwojy 02:37, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
Also, the second name is supposed to be 'peson', not 'person'. BPJBQBucket detail.pngrwojy 03:25, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

When/where do I report when people vandalize?[edit | edit source]

Hi, I'm kind of new... Do I report on their first offence, or should I wait until they do it 2, maybe 3 times before I report it to an admin. Also, where do I report this? I thought I would ask you, as you made a recent edit indicating you were online. :P  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Teady159 (talk). You can tell I'm new. ^_^ --Teady159 01:37, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

More CC vandals...[edit | edit source]

Could you please add the following to R S Wikia's ignore:

  • Rs Ucnut
  • Alchedemon1
  • Void Rebles
  • I Eat Glue88

They are all owned by the same person (who normally uses I Eat Glue), he was multilogging-in and trolling, as seen here and here (note: highly offensive). Thanks, Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 19:09, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Also, these for spamming/trolling (seem to be more of I Eat Glue's accounts):*Angelsyes4:*Texasownsyou
Thanks, Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 20:15, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
No less than 3-4 months, though personally I'd say indefinite, as their/his behavior was just plain trolling. He had been warned before, for censor evasion... this wasn't his first time. Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 16:04, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

CC unblock me please[edit | edit source]

My name now is "Ghosty Degen". Might as well get ranked again when you unblock me. Sorry for the inconvenience. Thanks man.Lol--Degenret01 00:51, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

You blocked me because I asked you to. For reasons such as 1-I wasn't contributing a lot to the wiki back then, 2-and some younger people showed major signs of being creeped out by having an almost 40 year old in the cc, 3-and I enjoyed the cc so much I wasn't focusing on a couple other things I should have been. 1 and 3 won't be an issue, and if #2 just shouldn't happen. Oh yea, I was "Elf time" at the time I asked you to add me to the cc ignore.--Degenret01 23:09, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

BAN[edit | edit source]

BAN HIM QUICK! https://runescape.wiki/w/User_talk:Mod_Poppy  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tua Scoot (talk).

Yeah I was in a rush, forgot to sign, just trying to tell any sysop who was on the recent changes >.<. scoot4.pngscooties 04:23, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
I LOVE YOU. You had to see those pictures more (i think) Frown scoot4.pngscooties 04:33, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Archives[edit | edit source]

Forum 11 is a past archive, from before the Yew Grove was in it's current form, so it's a combination of a multitude of discussions. The other forum you posted is after the Forum style grove came into effect. I hope that was your question.

Bonziiznob Talk

23:26, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

I'm too sure where you would like it. I don't remember to be honest as it was so long ago. Feel free to place it into Forum 11 if you would like. 01:04, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, people are aware of the old archives and how to search them. It'll be a waste of resources to separate them all. I don't know what happened to the old one or what I did. I think it may have been a stray forum for all I know, but I can't recall. 13:31, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Ignore plox[edit | edit source]

This guy, ogeraxeman, was on the cc for an hour, pretending to be from a 3rd world country, spelling bad and generally annoying the hell out of everyone. Also, the previous name was 'i eat moo moo', which has been kicked at least two times that I can remember. DHKFXBucket detail.pngrwojy 07:03, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Also 'npc45', another account he is using. QZZFHBucket detail.pngrwojy 07:04, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

I'll keep listing them as they appear. VYCLTBucket detail.pngrwojy 07:10, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

  1. ogeraxeman
  2. Npc45
  3. Pureownz564
  4. Darkloaf
  5. Dragon143453
  6. dark hawlkOO
  7. Runeskiilr
  8. Warcpalidan
  9. Robin Gp4u
  10. Orchunterwow

Later on, a guy came on and made racial slurs.

  1. A3ii
  2. A3 Fan Club
  3. A E R O R
  4. Bull3ti

RSWP Shortcut[edit | edit source]

Hey, Teng. I noticed you added a shortcut template to the RSWP. I just removed it because it was causing errors on the page, and frankly, there are already several shortcuts. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 11:03, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Transparency - Link Button[edit | edit source]

Hey. I'd be happy to do it but it looks like Swiz has already done it Wink Let me know if you need anything else. Cheers, Chicken7 >talk 00:17, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Unblock Btzkillerv from CC[edit | edit source]

Per this discussion, thanks. C.ChiamTalk 12:12, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Karlis's rank[edit | edit source]

As per his passed RFB, Sue Loves Me should be made a General. Thanks, Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 14:03, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Edit report[edit | edit source]

Fixed now, it was an error in the {{Userinfo}} template. --Quarenon  Talk 06:06, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

My rank in the RSW CC[edit | edit source]

can i has teh silver star? FredeTalk 11:42, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

RE: CiteSupport[edit | edit source]

Fixed, the categories were in the wrong place in the code. Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 21:12, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

List of all ranked in CC[edit | edit source]

When you get some free time, we need a complete list of all the ranked people please. We are considering remvoing inactives to free some slots so having a total number available will be helpful. Thanks,--Degenret01 02:28, January 31, 2010 (UTC) (you can just link it to the relevant YG thread after you write it out.)

Cudavid[edit | edit source]

In the pervious YG discussion, it was ruled that if he were to break our rules again, he would be banned. Well, he did just that, numerously. Therefore, I demand a permanent ban from the CC for him. Here's the evidence:

Evid2.png Evid3.png Evid4.png Evid5.png Evid1.png

Now that's a throwing weapon!Doucher4000******r4000I'll eat you! 18:35, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

i'm sorry c teng im rangedaddy9 can you unblock me from your clan chat i will never be bad again.I'm very sorry could you forgive me.

dragonslayer2010 19:14, January 31, 2010 (UTC) or rangedaddy9

CTeng you rock!!!

Trolling in the CC.[edit | edit source]

Sorry to bother you with such trivial matters, C Teng, but the CC today was attacked by numerous trolls on several accounts. The first attack was by Attkless and Jibblejab. They came to the CC and started spamming FMA repeatedly. They were soon booted by a ranked user, and another one came, called Elienan. They were also booted, but I'm telling you, in case they happen to strike again. This occured about 22:05PM GMT. Gaz and Lee were there. StRaTo x97 22:16, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

2 more names to block[edit | edit source]

Not sure if its the same guy or 2 diff ones, but they come in making similar racist comments and spam flood. Both names are common repeat offenders. "Poor abo" and "apoclypse494". Thanks--Degenret01 10:10, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

If it had only been a couple times I would go for 2 weeks, but maybe 30 days just to make sure they get the message. This craps really keepin you busy eh? --Degenret01 04:20, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hey[edit | edit source]

We got Spam bots

Names: Blacksycthe, Jibblejab and Ughagain.png Twig Talk 772kZGs.png 23:48, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm 3-5 months Twig Talk 772kZGs.png 01:41, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

More, likely the same person/people:

  • Divum Nex
  • Only 1 Kai
  • Blacksycthe

Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 19:14, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Joey Darby Same thing same punishment Twig Talk 772kZGs.png 03:33, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
Lord Noonlyt (Same thing) Ugh this is getting annoying to much spammers Twig Talk 772kZGs.png 05:02, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Oh =X[edit | edit source]

I didn't know that those were actually the British spelling. I thought it was just typos. Sorry =X scoot4.pngscooties 02:04, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

PwndDown[edit | edit source]

Can you explain why User:PwndDown is friended? If it was an accident, can you please derank her? ALBMDBucket detail.pngrwojy 01:38, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Another "Fma" spammer[edit | edit source]

They've attacked again, for a fourth time. "Bamaman007" came into the CC and spammed FMA, just like the other three, on 22:13 04th Feb. We need to find out who's doing this. StRaTo x97 22:14, February 4, 2010 (UTC)




Successful clan chat rank requests[edit | edit source]

Chessmaster (Chess1242 in game), Ssswizmig (Swizzl3d in-game), Stinkowing (Toxiwing in-game), Dave Lopo (didn't give in-game name), Strato X97 (PureStRaTo Mookie Strat in-game {Changed}) and Jim teh Mage (Jim teh Mage ingame) all had successful requests. I am asking Dave about his in-game name now. Unicorn horn dust.png Evil Yanks talk 06:43, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Dave's name is his username Twig Talk 772kZGs.png 06:46, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
On this topic, have you removed the ranking of peoples second accounts yet? Or do we need a big formal thing for you to do that?--Degenret01 07:06, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
O_o I don't think anyone should be accepted yet.... If all those people are accepted, that leaves what? 3 spots left? I think we should wait for the outcome of Forum:Proposed important changes to the CC first. We don't have many spots and can't be handing them out to every trusted user. Every one of those users I would trust with these tools, and I wouldn't oppose them if there was space, but there isn't. We need to use this space sparingly. Chicken7 >talk 10:31, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
I offered to pay for 1 months membership if we needed it. Swiz Talk Review Me 16:30, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
Yes, In-Game name is Dave Lopo. So, we get ranked after the conclusion of the discussion? http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3921/thehimmemote.pngGone. 22:26, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

More ignores man[edit | edit source]

Per Forum:FMA the following are just plain trolls. Flubber29, Elienan. Please add to ignore when you can, thanks.--Degenret01 13:24, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm, they say its a war thing so maybe forever? Since they feel its their "duty" to attack us. -rolls eyes-. Lets just keep them there until they say want to join the wiki, or we run out of room.--Degenret01 13:48, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
Add Cudavid to that list. C.ChiamTalk 13:45, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
Also, is there a list of ranked users? C.ChiamTalk 13:48, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
Could you add "U Gt Tld" to the ignore list? He's another FMA guy. Swiz Talk Review Me 14:42, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Cudavid is now using the name Dragon Imply.--Degenret01 19:21, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Your comment on the RSWP Talk Page[edit | edit source]

Hey, Teng. I noticed you expressed interest in the paper having articles about in-game events such as the Strange Power. We are actually looking for a reporter to write from an in-universe point of view. Contact me if your interested in the job. We are having awards in late April/early May for the best submissions to the paper, so get writing if you want to win a prize. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 13:26, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

(in responce to your comment on the RSWP talk page) While in-universe is what we are looking for, out-of-universe sounds good on the condition it is written to interest AND inform the reader, whereas the updatespace is only there to inform users. You could do breif interviews/quotes with users/wikians who experienced it first hand and their reaction and a short editorial attached to what you think this could mean. Have fun and good luck, should you choose to write it. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 20:43, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
Alright, look for the following code in your monaco.css file:
#page_controls a {
   color:            White !important;
}
 
.widget {
   background-color: #EDECED;
}
 
/*------------*/
/*--SKIN=END--*/
/*------------*/

You will notice that under the Page_controls section, it says "White !important;". This is the problem, it's making the text white. Change that to whatever colour you want, and that will fix it. Contact me if you have any other trouble. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 23:47, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

More...[edit | edit source]

HaydenGr8 has been Trolling and breaking the user treatment policy and some of the people in the chat support the idea of a 1 year ban from the chat Twig Talk 772kZGs.png 05:50, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

He has multiple accs, but the only one I have seen is giaif. ICFTBucket detail.pngrwojy 09:20, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
Ignore soon please. EVDKBucket detail.pngrwojy 03:50, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

I saw you were trying to find out how to make something colapsable (I think userboxes) and when you figure it out can you let me know how? :) Thanks scoot4.pngscooties 04:29, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Kicked for no reason...?[edit | edit source]

hELLO. i DON';T KNOW WHERE ELSE TO PUT THIS, BUT i WAS... Sorry, capslock. ... I was recently kicked for making fun of a troll who wouldn't stop speaking german. So I say, "Eins went to plei Nacht Der Untoten" which was supposed to mean homonically, very obviously if anyone was paying attention, "I want to play nacht der untoten" (it's a level on Nazi Zombies from Call of Duty). Wanting answers, I immediately switch to another account, immediately kicked for kick evasion. (-.-) I try once more, and, of course, am speedily kicked for kick evasion. I don't know where else I should put this, so... *shrug* I do not believe it is kick evasion if the initial kick is unfair. Then again, i think they were confusing me the two times I wanted answers with the actual troll. http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3921/thehimmemote.pngGone. 22:17, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

D4K admitted kicking Real Maccoy (or whatever the name is), and dean (the troll), but no one owned up to the other two. Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 22:24, February 12, 2010 (UTC)
Ooooh, well, if the troll's name started with "D", then I suppose it was a simple mis-click. Real Mc Coy was my account, but it was likely that they thought it was another account of the troll. Probably only I and dean had names starting with d. Well, as long as I don't get kicked immediately the next time I log in, all is well. :P http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3921/thehimmemote.pngGone. 01:14, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Happy birthday[edit | edit source]

Happy Birthday !!! :) Construction-icon.png Matt is Me / Harmonising / Lvl 3 skils3 Talk Cooking cape (t).png 08:10, February 13, 2010 (UTC) HAPPY BIRTHDAY2 Swiz Talk Review Me 11:26, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Who are you dragonslayer2010 told me you are awesome?

Dragonslayer2010 follower 00:41, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Heh, they beat me to it. HAPPY BIRTHDAY! --
Water Wave icon.png
Captain Sciz
TalkEditsHiscores File:Runecrafter hat.png|link=
04:20, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
Happy birthday for yesterday mate. Wink Cheers, Chicken7 >talk 12:51, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Edit Report[edit | edit source]

Thanks, I fixed the link. Up emoticon.gif --Quarenon  Talk 07:12, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Help with my signature[edit | edit source]

Hi C Teng,

Sorry to bother you, but my signature is not working as intended. I followed the instructions on RS:SIG exactly. However, despite the fact that I put the code {{Signatures/Liquidhelium}} in the signature box in my preferences, every time I try to sign using the four tildes, instead of putting the signatures template in the page I signed, the wiki transfers the raw code found in my signature template and uses that instead. It's not a big deal in my case, since my signature code is not long. However, I do not want the raw code to be put into articles in the event that I change my signature later on. Do you know a way to solve this problem?

Thanks, --LiquidheliumTalk 21:51, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Nice 2c u[edit | edit source]

Hey, C Teng, you may not know who I am: Youdead00 (though I plan to change it sometime). I just wanted to say: I've been on your userpage, and about your poll, my answer is YES, the (header) increases the size of the "window". Youdead00 04:23, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Your sig[edit | edit source]

I use this code: {{Signatures/The last username left|time=<nowiki>~~~~~}}</nowiki>. I made a custom edit button to insert it more easily. I'm a regular user and I approve this message.  TLUL Talk - Contribs 02:00, February 21, 2010 (UTC) 

Ban Mookie Lucid from CC[edit | edit source]

Mookie lucid- If you would take the time to read mark i said "your cc" your cc wouldnt be r s wikia your cc would if i went to join clan an typed in djinn mark so cleary you are trying to mislead these people to get me banned



Evid7.jpg  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Doucher4000 (talk).


 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lucid trixter (talk).

please[edit | edit source]

in the cc djinn mark said it was ok to upload images as in upload over current images, please can i do this, this is my favourite part of editing, could i just do that, please?--Project Myface Parsonsda Talk | Sign Here | Project Myface Project Myface 19:08, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Your signature[edit | edit source]

I have noticed that recently, the white party hat next to your signature has stopped displaying properly. I discovered that, for some strange reason, it doesn't work at 15px (it comes up as a white box). I modified the code to adjust it to 16px, and changed it to File:White_party_hat.PNG instead of Image:White_party_hat.PNG (that's the correct name, I believe). Hope you don't mind! I'm a regular user and I approve this message.  TLUL Talk - Contribs 19:43, February 21, 2010 (UTC) 

Deleted names in Clan Chat[edit | edit source]

I noticed that Eucarya is slated to be deleted from the CC for inactivity. If your criteria for deleting someone is six months, then Eucarya never should have been put onto the list in the first place. He has made several edits on February 25, 2010, and before that had made edits in November of 2009 (which was only four months ago, not six). I think you should either modify your statement to say something other than "users who have been inactive for over 6 months", or remove Eucarya from the list. --LiquidTalk 01:43, February 27, 2010 (UTC)


Another noob[edit | edit source]

Can you ban the two accounts in the picture:

  1. Kashbez Lol
  2. Omg Swhipped

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/2491/banp.png

SplâshTâlkSîgn hêrê 18:12, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ummm don't know really... a week or something?

SplâshTâlkSîgn hêrê 18:24, March 14, 2010 (UTC)


C Teng[edit | edit source]

You rock c teng but I want to know what I should do to make it better. If you know someone good who knows tell me.

Thanks,

Quest.png Dragonslayer2010 Talk Guestbook My website Quest point cape.png 19:36, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

Clan Chat[edit | edit source]

Hello, Clv309 has asked me to ask you to block/ignore a player, Spikethechoa, form the RSW clan chat. This player was sending spammers into the Clan and these spammers were targeting her and other admins. Thank you for your time. --Seren symbol.pnglady el talk 03:32, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

In addition to these, there is Popmythong and Otg Hemroid. Thanks.  Panjy16  04:33, March 21, 2010 (UTC)
If you need screenshots I have them here:

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9837/spammer3.png
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/5819/spammer02.png
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4342/spammer4.png Dragon longsword.png Venichen2 T C E Dragon scimitar old.png 15:19, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Another spammer here (Gertfart Gf), probably in the same league as the spammers above.

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8398/screenshot20100323at909.png Dragon longsword.png Venichen2 T C E Dragon scimitar old.png 01:31, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

question about the clan chat[edit | edit source]

hey c teng i was wondering why i havent been unbanned weither its because your not active i dont know just wanted to haller and tell you my ban time is up thanks Fire cape.png Lucid Savior Talk Abyssal whip.png 00:35, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

new spammer[edit | edit source]

Please add "Gertfart gf" and "Severed Kok" to ignore. Thanks,--Degenret01 02:24, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

Did you make a mistake?[edit | edit source]

I just got ranked friend on the wiki cc. I think you added me by accident Best Shield EVERAnnaLove scarves! 02:35, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

Rank Promotion[edit | edit source]

I feel kinda awkward requesting this, but I just completed a successful rfa, so I would appreciate it if you changed my rank accordingly. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 13:14, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Also, Endasil says to remove his if you haven't [1], and Bonzi gave up sysop again and says he is retired, so you can unrank him too.--Degenret01 07:11, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
Since User:Whiplash came back, you should probably rank his primary account. He said on the CVU that it's Zerg Forces. --LiquidTalk 17:21, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
O.O Whiplash was supposed to get the bureaucrat's gold star. You gave him a silver star. --LiquidTalk 22:25, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

While we are on the topic, User:Dave Lopo is now a forum admin. Please change his rank accordingly. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 20:08, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

UotM support[edit | edit source]

This message is to thank you dearly for your kind words and support in my nomination as the User of the Month. It's a nice thing to know that the community appreciates my contributions here, and I am both honoured and privileged to be April's UotM. Again, thank you. Chicken7 >talk 08:07, March 31, 2010 (UTC)