Transcript talk:The Death of Chivalry

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Issues with Dialogue[edit source]

At the very beginning, in the section "Saradomin at the Monastery", I'm going with the option "Saradomin. We meet again." However, whichever of the next options I choose, Sir Owens always cuts in immediately, and I get no response from Saradomin... Even with the option "You look like Norris the snow imp.", for which we have a response documented... Is this a bug, or due to me being aligned to Saradomin in BoL (and having hopped back and forth several times now). I do currently have a Dragon token, so... IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 15:55, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

I really don't know anymore how to manage this on the transcription page itself. I'm just adding the dialogue to this talk page, with my parameters/choices...
Parameters:

  • The World Wakes completed
  • Currently on Saradomin's side in BoL, with a Dragon token; but have swapped forth and back a few times.

Choices:

  • Saradomin. We meet again.
  • You've looked better.
  • I support Zaros.

The result, differing from the section "Aligned with Saradomin in the Battle" (all spoken by Saradomin):

  • Dark-hearted knights of Zamorak, the Kinshra, have discovered a dangerous weapon last wielded during the God Wars.
  • They have long sought to rule the kingdom of Asgarnia, and obliterate my White Knights.
  • These dark-hearted knights of Zamorak have discovered a dangerous weapon last wielded during the God Wars.
  • If the Black Knights seize this weapon, they will unleash terrible destructive power upon the citizens of Falador.
  • I have chosen both of you to recover this artefact, before Zamorak's minions claim it.
  • Will you aid me?

This is a nightmare, and that dialogue simply looks bugged... IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 16:11, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

Meh, bug reported it... Perhaps someday they'll fix it, and I can do the quest. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 16:27, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

Post Battle of Lumbridge Dialogue[edit source]

This dialogue is a nightmare of intertwining conditions... There's also still a section missing on how he responds if the quest is started after the battle of Lumbridge passed and the player did not participate. Some options look the same, but are actually different. I'm not sure how to include it, so I'll list the options here for me, or someone else to later add tho the page (all of this is After the world wakes):


Sir Owen: Mighty Saradomin! It is an honour to bear witness to your glory, my lord. Of all the days to neglect to polish my armour...

choose an option:

  • (Kneel before Saradomin.)
    • Saradomin: Please, there is no need to grovel. I could have done with your loyalty on the Lumbridge battlefield. For now, I entrust to both of you, this sacred task.
  • (Kneel before Saradomin) (Unlocked by Saradomin emissary)
    • Saradomin: Arise my faithful followers. there is no need to grovel. I know you well Sir Owen. you are one of the greatest of my faithful. It is why I entrust you with this sacred task.
  • (Remain standing.)
    • Saradomin: The world Guardian. We meet again, and sooner than I'd hoped.
    • Saradomin: What do you think of my new look?
      • (Continues below)
  • Saradomin. We meet again. (Unlocked by The World Wakes)
    • Saradomin: Indeed. Much has changed since the death of Guthix.
    • Saradomin: What do you think of my new look?
      • You're smaller than I remember.
        • Saradomin: This is but a minor manifestation. I prefer talking to mortals eye-to-eye.
      • I preferred you when you were taller.
        • (same as first option)
      • You've looked better.
        • (same as first option)
  • You are no god of mine.
    • Saradomin turns his gaze toward you.
    • Saradomin: Your loyalties are your own to choose, World Guardian. Remember, though, that Guthix chose you to protect this world from outsiders. It is why I need your help.
      • (Continues below)
  • Who are you?
    • Saradomin: I am Saradomin. It is thanks to my wisdom and guidance that the kingdoms of Misthalin and Asgarnia have enjoyed an era of peace of prosperity. Now that I have defeated Zamorak, I shall usher in a new age of order and enlightenment.
    • (Returns to previous options)

Sir Owen: ...almighty Saradomin, ruler of all things... whose power no creature is able to resist... ...save and deliver me...

  • If you chose (Kneel before Saradomin):
    • Saradomin: Please, there is no need to grovel. I could have done with your loyalty on the Lumbridge battlefield. For now, I entrust to both of you this sacred task. (this option skips Sir Owens prayer above)
  • If you chose ((kneel before Saradomin)(Unlocked by Saradomin Emissary))
    • Saradomin:Arise my faithful followers. there is no need to grovel. I know you well Sir Owen. you are one of the greatest of my faithful. It is why I entrust you with this sacred task. (This option skips Sir Owens prayer above)
  • If you chose to remain standing:
    • Saradomin: And do get up, Sir Owen. If there is one thing I cannot stand, it is people groveling. I know you well, my servant. You are one of my greatest advocates. It is why I entrust you with this task.
  • If you chose (Saradomin. We meet again.):
    • Saradomin: Oh, do get up, sir Owen. If there is one thing I cannot stand, it is people grovelling. I know you well, my servant. You are one of the greatest among my followers. It is why I entrust you with this sacred quest.
  • If you chose (You are no god of mine.):
    • Saradomin: Please, Sir Owen. There is no need to grovel. I know you well, knight. You are one of the greatest among my followers. It is why I entrust you with this mission.

Select an option

  • I support [faction]. (Unlocked by god emissary)
    • If faction is Saradomin:
      • Player: I support you, Saradomin.
      • Saradomin: Dark-Hearted knights of Zamorak, the Kinshra [...] (continues from here below)
    • If faction is not Saradomin:
      • Player: I support [faction]. Why would I help you?
      • (Same as below)
  • How can I help?
    • (same as below)
  • Why would I help you?
    • Player: Why would I help you?
    • Saradomin: These are dark times. The Edicts of Guthix are no more. Now, evil gods seek to claim dominion in our world with wearisome tenacity. Dark-hearted knights of Zamorak, the Kinshra , have discovered a dangerous weapon last wielded during the God Wars. The Kinshra have long sought to rule the kingdom of Asgarnia, and obliterate my White Knights. If the Black Knights seize this weapon, they will unleash terrible destructive power. The innocent citizens of Asgarnia will be slaughtered in their hundreds I have chosen both of you to claim this artefact from the minions of Zamorak. Will you Aid me?

(Cuts to quest acceptance window)

If you exit the quest acceptance window by clicking on Saradomin to speak with him:

  • Saradomin: Every moment you hesitate, the forces of evil gain ground.
    • (Returns to beginning of conversation tree)
    • Sir Owen: Mighty Saradomin! [...] (see above)


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Some of this might be redundant with existing parts of the transcript, but these are the full dialogue options (that I could find, didn't see anything about a snow imp) for an account that did not participate in the battle of Lumbridge, but did complete the world wakes. So it needs to be sorted out, and added to the main dialogue page. I've tried to format everything correctly, so it should mostly be a matter of copy-paste. :)

[Edit: found the line about cancelling the quest acceptance window at the end and added it]

SecameRS (talk) 00:07, September 4, 2017 (UTC)