Talk:Zamorak hawk

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Untitled[edit source]

This is horribly written. I'd edit it, but feh.

Full Grown[edit source]

Will the bird still run away if you fail to feed even though its a hawk? Slayer helmet.png Hmanballer talk | edit count | sign | HS Fire cape.png 02:55, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Full Grown[edit source]

I hope this helps!

"When pets were first released, many players complained that pets still required food even when fully grown, unlike the cats, which required no feeding once a kitten had grown up. This was explained as stress on the server as having a pet or familiar out all the time would inevitably slow them down. This is also the reason why timers are implemented and no familiars are allowed in high player density areas such as the Grand Exchange. Pets being high maintenance ironically detracted the players that would likely have the ability to own the higher levels, and wouldn't consider keeping them out other than for Alching, Fletching or other similar passive near-bank activities. This rings true especially for pets with non-stackable food, which is the majority. Familiars however filled the gap that many thought pets would take, as skill/combat aids and beasts of burden, leaving pets largely ignored for lack of any ability."

Cleanup[edit source]

Pet total maturity time, hunger stage time, incubator time?

What happens if: you incubate 2 eggs, get 2 birds out the menagerie simultaneously get 2 birds out of bank (banked before update) etc.

Answer is on main god birds page

De jour 22:03, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Preserving extra info here[edit source]

I'm rewriting the god bird pages by consolidating all useful relevant info into each, removing excess useless bulk, rewording, and copying to each page. Excess info cut is kept here:

the 7 hour figure was taken from the following info on the old page:

"The owl takes around 4 minutes to increase 1% in growth resulting in 6 hours 40 minutes per stage totalling at a 13 hours 20 minutes timeframe to grow from chick to a fully grown owl."

I changed it to say roughly 7 hours as a higher level of precision implied a higher level of accuracy.

"Warning: Although the Guthix chick may only be hatched if any other chicks, birds or fully grown God Raptors are placed in a Menagerie in a Player-owned house, Jagex has changed the ability to incubate more than one coloured birds egg at a time. If you have more than one egg in an incubator (Taverley and Yanille ) then be aware if you remove one of the chicks, then the other one will disappear when you try to take it out of the second incubator. Until this problem has been fixed, it is strongly advised that you make sure to allow any god birds to develop fully and store them in your menagerie before incubating another."

I removed this as it will be much less relevant today, years after the update, since very few people are still likely to have 2 eggs in incubation.

"Remember to make Ground fishing bait you have to use a pestle and mortar on the fishing bait."

Less relevant post tool belt update, also this info is already on the linked ground fishing bait page.

De jour 22:03, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Updated with new information[edit source]

I timed the period it takes for the bird to get hungry:

before I started timing the hunger went 0, 4, 9, 14, 19, 23

I started the timer with the the hunger had just hit 23%

hunger went up as follows: 28, 33, 38, 42, 47, 52, 57, 61,

the hunger jumped up every 120 seconds to the nearest seconds and took exactly 16 minutes to complete 2 cycles.

During this time growth jumped 1% every 2nd cycle.

Conclusion: the hunger jumps are 4.75%, all parts of a % are rounded down on displaying hunger. It will take 200 two minute cycles to go from bird to hawk.

Chick not yet tested to this level of detail.

extrapolating I'd expect full growth to occur in 6 hours 40 minutes.

Picking the bird up or logging out will lengthen the time growth takes, for example if 80 second passed when the bird is picked up, it may take more than 40 seconds for the next growth to happen after re dropping therefore 6h40 is still a rough figure.

More info:

My fully grown hawk jumped hunger every 2 minutes exactly, going 4, 8, 12, 16, 20, 25, 29, 33, 37, 41, 45, 50, 54, 58

this is weird it implies a jump of at least 4.166666%, and less than 4.181818%.

A speculative conclusion:

the chicks 5.25% jumps would end 94.5, 99.75 i.e. the final figure shown is 99% to make the player realise they are cutting it fine, there are a total of 20 periods of 2 minutes each.

the birds 4.75% jumps would end 95, 99.75 i.e. the final figure shown is also 99%. There are a total of 22 periods of 2 minutes each.

the hawk's series ends 91, 95, 99 too so that there are either 25 periods, the penultimate jump being a bit less to avoid catching anyone by surprise.


there are 24 periods and the last hunger before pet loss is 95%

I'd have to risk losing my hawk to find out, so I'll live with not knowing.

Maybe the page should say 4.1667 as it is at least close to the actual figure, is easier to quote succinctly, and will encourage people to be more cautious

Trivia[edit source]

When is says "Are you my mummy/daddy?", it could also be a reference to an episode of Doctor Who, where victims would say "Are you my mummy?"

I mean, Jagex is a British company, after all. 23:16, September 13, 2012 (UTC)

Or, less Farfetch'd, it could be a reference to how birds perceive the first life they see. MolMan 23:18, September 13, 2012 (UTC)