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Proposal: Data on quantities of items needed to fill the urns[edit source]

I think that it'd be nice to know how many pieces of an item you need to fill an urn. To start, we'll need some data. I've found out that one needs 46.666 iron ores for each standart Mining urn. Dontlietome7 15:47, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

100 accursed ashes to fill an infernal and 25 for an accursed urn. Carbonite 0 16:31, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

The article that this one has been proposed to be merged with already has a running list. Quest.png Darrik Ash US serv.svg HS ALDarklight detail.png 19:47, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, but it's not accurate. And it's a thing that we need to research so we can produce results in a nice short table. Dontlietome7 19:58, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
Guy, the urns have been out for less than half a day, nothing is going to be accurate at this point. And some of it is because I inputted the prayer part for Inferal Ashes. At least what is on pottery urn is a start. We can always build off that. Quest.png Darrik Ash US serv.svg HS ALDarklight detail.png 20:02, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
Yea, but we need to get accurate info to make a formula. Your infernal urn entry seems to be accurate, but I'm unsure on the decorated mining urn. If it should take twice longer to fill with the same ore as normal, then it should be 93.333, not 100.
Pasting data from Pottery urns article (this might be inaccurate):
A decorated fishing urn last for 80 monkfish
A strong wooductting urn will last for 124 willow logs, 48 yew logs, or 52 eucalyptus logs.
A decorated mining urn lasts for 100 iron ores.
A smelting urn lasts for 20 mithril bars.
An Infernal urn is filled with 25 Infernal ashes.
A decorated cooking urn lasts for 37 sharks. And will give 1,547xp when activated.
Dontlietome7 20:18, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
The urns I've tried all give a 20% bonus. So they all fill up based on xp, not items processed. The xp required to fill them is 5x the xp awarded when teleporting them full. --Saftzie (talk) 22:16, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
You can mix up what you use to fill the urns (assuming what you use is still within the urns level range). A strong mining urn can be filled using coal and mithril, Coal fills it 3% and mithril fills it 5%. Same exp reward at the end just a different way to get it filled if you can't get mithril rocks to yourself. Carbonite 0 13:14, February 16, 2011 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for the info. Oh well, that means my fact about iron ores isn't exact... Dontlietome7 13:37, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

Effective use of urns[edit source]

I'm wondering, do you need to put a rune onto a prayer urn if you're going to use it in the ectofuncus?

We should add information on how to use urns effectively, but that would need some research.

From the description, I think you have the choice of gathering ashes by hand for use at the Ecto, or using the Urn for less XP but more convenience. If this Urn can be used F2P, it makes a huge difference for free players, and the ashes aren't a bad thing for members, either. But I won't be using the Urn unless you're right and I'm wrong, or I get Tarpal Cunnel or the DGADarns. -- TheLastWordSword 20:37, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
Smelting steel bars and up (except addy) is definately a good way to use the smelting urns, because you have the free space to carry an urn anyways. As a general rule though, the more often you have to visit the bank (a bank where you can retrieve stuff, not a deposit box), the more helpful the urn will be. Otherwise, you have to take time going to the bank to get another urn. Also, do smelting urns fill up when you're smithing?

Using multiple Urns[edit source]

So, my access is very awkward and fragile, bear with me. I was using the high-level mining urns, and I had two in my inventory, one filling and one empty. I teleported the full one away with no problem. As the article is worded, this sounds like it can't happen, but it did. So now what? Nice work on the images, I couldn't keep up! (I did try, though!) :) -- TheLastWordSword 20:32, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

I also have 28 Accursed urns in my inventory right now, the first one filled right up and the second one started right away, but I did not teleport my first one. An error somewhere? --Crazye97 19:32, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Are filling prayer urns a good way to earn exp?[edit source]

For someone with little money, bringing a prayer urn and filling it on say a black demons task, is it a good way to train prayer? Or is it more valuable to just collect the ashes and just sell them AND then use the money to buy supplies and train it at your POH on gilded altar? (or possibly just keep the damn ashes you collect and use them later) Basically I am asking what is better exp:gp ratio? I know this is an early question to ask since dragon bones vs. ashes prices will have to settle first.

im guessing like every other thung of conveinince, your gonna wanna use on poh/ecto for max exp

If your looking for max experience then the urns are a waste. Infernal Ashes give a lot more experience at an alter or ecto than if you were to use them with an urn. However if you goal is to get a little bonus exp from doing say a 200 Black Demon task then you could always put a couple (8 Infernal urns would store 200 Black Demon ashes) in the bag and then transport them when they are full. My current Slayer assignment is Black Demons and I'm only getting about 12 to 16 ashes in the bag before I have to empty. I can get two Infernal urns per trip before I'm filled with junk. So if you want to work Slayer or collect Crimson charms while getting a little extra prayer exp then urns are for you. If you want to max experience your Prayer then don't bring urns.
As for if you should sell the ashes or not, that is discussion that should be better left with the Ashes themselves not the Urns. Quest.png Darrik Ash US serv.svg HS ALDarklight detail.png 11:03, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

Urning a Living[edit source]

There apparently is a tasked earned once you create your first urn from clay to adding the rune called 'Urning a Living'. I don't think it is part of any set, and apparently is in task limbo before and after you get it because I can't find any task set or even the beginner/miscellaneous set that lists it. Jagex doesn't mention it either in their post.

Yes, this happend to me and i also unlocked a sound track.. no sure if that relates to the task or not..  Marrioneetee (Talk)   03:26, February 16, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, exactly the same happened to me, no music though Dontlietome7 15:24, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

Linking pages[edit source]

I added a link to the urns page from the free-to-play page at the bottom of the overview section. Please correct if this page is renamed. Thanks. 05:28, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

P.S. If I was to use this page I'd rather see "Bars up to and including mithril" rather than "Bars up to and including level 50". Level 50 is mithril if I remember correctly. 05:33, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

P.P.S. I was not clear on the use of urns. If I mine a piece of coal does it go in the urn and then is lost if I break the urn? This is based on "If you destroy an urn, all progress and bonus experience is lost. This is true even for ash holding prayer urns; if you destroy the urn the ashes disappear and are lost." If this is the case, then WHY would I want to break it to begin with? 05:36, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

No you get to keep the coal and the urn will fill up at the same time. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 05:38, February 16, 2011 (UTC)
P.P.P.S. I'm stopping the use of P if this keeps up but..."I've found out that one needs 46.666 iron ores for each standart Mining urn." Does a better urn hold more ore? Example, does a cracked mining urn hold more tin than a mining urn and/or does a mining orn hold more tin than coal? 05:41, February 16, 2011 (UTC)
Yes it requires a certain amount of experience gained from mining rocks to fill up the urns and that amount increases with better urns. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 05:44, February 16, 2011 (UTC)
Well, someone above found out that you need to get 5 times more xp than the urn awards to fill it. Meaning my number (46.666) isn't 100% accurate. Dontlietome7 15:24, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

Questions[edit source]

Do you have a chance at getting a rock when making urns?

Yes you can get strange rocks will having an urn in inventory. (expierienced)

Not sure if chances are changed but would think it is same as activity w/o urn24.128.168.125Blank

you misunderstod question do u get crafting rock for MAKING urns?

Yes, u get strange rock(crafting) from making urns.

You can also get strange rocks from putting runes on urns, then you get rocks from the type of urn you are making. For instance, putting pure essense on a runecrafting urn can give you a strange rock in runecrafting, because you get runecrafting XP for doing that.

Hi-Alching[edit source]

Hi alchemy on (r) urns yields 0gp. True 4 all (r) urns?

Very low hi alch values for other urns, based on the level needed to make, add hi alch table or simply advise against hi alching?

Not too surprising there, since (r) urns are untradeable. The urns (nr) yield a little bit of money, which works out nice in the Crafting Guild. Ablm578Talk 18:40, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

So, how do they work?[edit source]

I know that you earn more exp but I quit the game and not planning to create an account just to test out this update. Can anyone in detail tell how the urns work?

Do you keep the resources or do you basically give up the resources and "power level" that 20% boost? The page have a ton of info but lack the basic infomation which would be the reward and cost of using urns. It sound like you keep everything but the ashes with the prayer urns. 02:46, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

You pretty much got it, each resource that you collect, will fill the urn by a certain %, which differs based upon the type of urn, once it's full, you can then teleport the urn for an exp bonus. And you're also correct when saying that only the prayer urns actually take your resources, all the others allow you to keep the item you're collecting. I think the page about each of the specific urns has info about how many resources are needed and whatnot. Hope this helps a bit. =/ BerserkHackr 02:57, February 18, 2011 (UTC)
Thank you so much. Someone really should explain this on the main page as this confuse me and I bet others greatly. Not everyone play this game 24/7 (I personally currently waiting for an excuse to get back into the game like a new skill) And yet a few players like to keep up with the current events. Like I said, the page is missing the basic cost/rewards of using the urns which should be explained in detail.

Urns and assist[edit source]

Do urns fill up if when assisting? If yes, do the assister's urns fill, or the assistee's?

Confirmation Needed[edit source]

The article says that only 10 runed urns can be out at one time. I tell you that I can hold as much runed urns in my inventory as possible since I have crafted them myself. Even the official Runescape article says nothing about only holding 10 urns at a time. Runescaperx 14:12, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

It means non-empty urns.
You may only have 10 non-empty urns in one skill type at a time (these are urns with any number of scraps in them: a pot with one scrap in, all the way to a pot that is completely full). Unfired urns, urns without runes, and empty urns with no runes do not count towards this total.
Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 16:46, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
Oh, gotcha. I thought it meant empty urns. Runescape should be more clear and just call them filled urns. Runescaperx 18:21, February 23, 2011 (UTC)
I was mining for coal a while ago and I had 14 mining urns with me. I know this even though I can't recall for sure because that is how many soft clay I could carry at one time. 05:26, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Request[edit source]

Recently, I edited this article so it would say "They were released on 15 February 2011 and were first mentioned in the February 2011 Behind the Scenes article. While training Fishing, Mining, Smithing, Cooking, or Woodcutting, urns will collect "scraps" (fancy for nothing at all) and eventually become full based on the experience gained from the activity." However, the Runescape Wikians reverted my edit so it would say "...urns will "collect" scraps and eventually..." like before. I want to tell you people why I changed that in the first place. When I read this article, I was confused on what "collecting" scraps meant. The article did not really clarifiy on this. Two apostrophes without a parentheses text don't explain much. I thought that the urn would collect all or some of the items made from practicing the skill. When I went on Runescape, I was shocked to find out that urns did not collect anything at all and just acted as an item that generated extra exp. I would like to ask if the RS Wiki community could have the article explain collecting scraps in my preferred method of explaining it. Runescaperx 05:00, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Urns and Bonus XP Weekend[edit source]

Will teleporting full prayer urns earn you extra xp over the bonus xp weekend? Other prayer maximizing options aren't included in the bonus (ecto & POH), what do we know about the urns? Thanks, Merivel 16:54, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

I can't say specifically about prayer urns, but I used a decorated fishing urn on the weekend. I couldn't tell at the time if the urn filled any faster (I'm guessing it didn't), but the urn itself only made the usual 1900 xp. Another session of fishing w/o the xp multiplier may make this a little easier to answer. Hope this helps, especially for next BXPW.
Also the urns (except prayer) seem to give a total of 10% bonus experience to whatever you are doing, much like the 1.1 multiplier on a BXPW. (The way you guys are figuring out the percentage of the urn is screwy and nearly useless for training and planning.)-- PIKWIT 22:41, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Calculations of Urn exp AND units earned filling urns.[edit source]

"I just quickly made the following formula: units needed for full urnx x unit xp + urn xpx Example: (47.5 x 10) x 175 + (1662.5 x 10) = 99750 xp, This many I will get by filling 10 stronng woodcutting urns with yew logs. /\(i'm only from the last formula)It's the first time I added something to a wikia, so is there anyone who will check if I did it the right way and maybe add a formula like: I need ...xp, how can I calculate how many units i need to obtain + urns to get that amount? Thank you and the one who checks my formula and adds my requisted formula can delete these lines from where the /\ starts."

I found this in the main page, and checked what was going on. To find urn exp and unit exp getting urns you say this. Each urn requires x components to fill. Each urn adds 20% of total exp of each urn to its total. Thus using previous formulas 5 x urn exp / unit exp = # urns to fill item. For each urn that is filled you get 1 x urn exp plus # urns to fill item * urn exp this transfers into 1 x urn exp + (5 x urn exp / unit exp) * unit exp and again into 1 x urn exp + 5 x urn exp which can finally be distributed into 6 x urn exp. So for your example strong woodcutting urns 1662.5 x 6 x 10= 99750 xp in the case of ten urns. Although you concluded correctly the equation is so bogged up with numbers it makes the whole equation appear much more complex then it actually is. Don't forget to simply before you post!!! 16:45, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Cracked smelting urn[edit source]

I'm not so sure that cracked smelting urns do work for up to level 20 ores because I had one in my inventory while smelting silver and it didn't fill up at all. Liquidmetalrob 14:51, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Correction, I've just read on this page: Crafting - Pottery that "Smelting urns do not collect scraps when smelting gold or silver" which is irritating, but at least it explains what was going wrong. I've edited the table to mention this now. Liquidmetalrob 15:10, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Urns and Shattered Heart[edit source]

Has anybody else gotten crafting rocks from throwing/firing urns? I can't find any documentation on whether they satisfy the requirement for finding rocks or not. ItsMrPants 20:41, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Have they been removed?[edit source]

Do they still have urns in game? Because I was trying to craft one and I couldn't find it in the selection list

Smelting Urns are so useless[edit source]

Jagex should make "Smithing Urns" instead. I doubt a lot of people today would bother smelting bars (not gold nor silver) as their primary training method. This is the worst urns I've ever seen Puretppc (talk) 15:52, October 18, 2014 (UTC)

Is the Crafting level still required for Activating an urn?[edit source]

I saw that this comment on the page History and figured it would be better off here. Zahti (talk) 13:22, August 31, 2017 (UTC)

Do any of the Summer Beach Party activities fill urns?[edit source]

The only activity that is listed that does not work is Cooking barbeques. What about the other activities? Zahti (talk) 17:29, September 2, 2017 (UTC)