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Name proof[edit source]

There is no proof that his name is Jal'yt-ga'al-kot. That is the name of an item that was put in game as of the Elder Kiln. Furthermore in-game NPC's and items lack apostraphes in their name 21:41, March 11, 2013 (UTC)Pafk

Drakan's medallion. Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 21:42, March 11, 2013 (UTC)
Fine then, TzHaar NPC's and items lack apostraphes in their name, there is still no proof that this is the Ga'al's name. 21:45, March 11, 2013 (UTC)Pafk
Jagex aren't going to exclude apostrophes based off of that. The reason they don't is because they were not there originally and it would be a mess to change that now. MolMan 21:46, March 11, 2013 (UTC)
Ga'al Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 21:47, March 11, 2013 (UTC)
I concede, I checked, the Ga'al to have apostraphe's in game, we still have no proof that this is the wandering ga'al's name, if people use this page as a resource for information about hunting for it and it turns out that it isn't the right name it could prove harmful to those looking to find the easter egg seeing as we don't know how to find him yet. There is no reference used to prove that its name is Jal'yt-ga'al-kot, and as mentioned it is only found as a an item and the item was added at the same time as the Elder Kiln 21:59, March 11, 2013 (UTC)Pafk

Why Hybrid Helm?[edit source]

I'd like an explanation of why hybrid helm is listed here as the helm is from Castle Wars and the torso slot is from the Fight Pits. Thanks. EngelNacht (talk) 06:00, May 4, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks whoever edited it, I would have myself but I thought maybe there was a reason I'd missed(for Hybrid Helm). It works either way though! EngelNacht (talk) 21:39, May 4, 2013 (UTC)

Cosmic Runes[edit source]

In regards to the recent change in Mod Stu's answer here (last post on page 177), someone said "We'll ask Stu on Monday if Cosmic runes are required, it seems pretty probable that he didn't think of using the pure essence they drop on ZMI altar." How exactly does one get to the ZMI Altar from the TzHaar city without ever leaving the volcano? 10:55, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

How does one get to an anvil from the TzHaar City without leaving the volcano? The question was whether you could get all of the items required for the items in the volcano, not if you could make them there. --Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 10:56, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

Found[edit source]

He has been found. 17:23, May 14, 2013 (UTC)

Totally worth it... 06:40, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

Obsidian Armor?[edit source]

The information in the article is contradictory. It says,

"Equip at least one piece of Obsidian armour."

then later says, 

"Unequip any Obsidian armourTokHaar-Kal and Fire capes you have equipped. Having any of these items equipped prevents you from seeing him."

This goes against itself. Or is it that you need to equip the armor, donate the Tokkul, and then unequip it? It's written sort of weirdly. Farming cape (t).png Ededdeddy97 Quest point cape.png 19:31, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Yes. You have to equip the armour in order to donate the tokkul, but then you must unequip it afterwards. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 19:42, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Mod Stu's account of the hunt for the hidden Ga'al[edit source]

After the Brink of Extinction was released, players were searching for something that did not exist. (I was out of the country for a few weeks (I had a lot of unused holiday allowance due to the hours I crunched to ensure TBoE was released on schedule), so couldn't do much to respond to that until I returned.)

Since they were putting so much effort into this search, rather than telling them it didn't exist, I decided to implement what they were looking for.

However, the solution needed to be something they hadn't already tried, and since they'd been searching for a while, and the most obvious answers had already been attempted, the solution had to be really obscure.

It would also take a little time for the update to go live since it wasn't a priority patch, and more solutions would be tried in the interim. So it had to be really *really* obscure.

I figured if they didn't find it, I could engage with the hunters and provide clues, because by necessity there was no in-game feedback to what combination of items and actions was correct. I didn't want to tell them the answer, so that they'd have the satisfaction of finding it for themselves, and validate the effort they'd already expended.

To provide a desirable pay-off for the search, the bookcase addition included some pretty major lore reveals at the time (the first naming of an Elder God after Jas, for example), and so needed some time to get that text green-lit before it could go live.

I kept a close eye on the search, since naturally I was worried they might figure out the solution before the lore they were searching for was added, and encouraged the hunters when they got discouraged. (Bear in mind, this was back when we didn't engage with and communicate as transparently with our playerbase as we do today.)

Once the target of their search was live (IIRC it was 1-2 months into what would become a 6 month hunt -- a lot later than I would've liked, but it was out of my control), I then dropped hints to help players find the solution.

So there's my honest account of those events. I hope it helps to set the record straight.

— Mod Stu [1]
  1. ^ Mod Stu. [1] RuneScape Forums.

5-x Talk 10:12, June 19, 2017 (UTC)