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C.ChiamTalk 08:01, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

cited/Updating[edit source]

-beginning to cite material/make updates! feel free to, you know, pitch in... Rollback crown.svgAburnett001 {Talk} {#} 22:43, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

most of the heavey editing has been completed, needs to be checked for grammer/punctation/caps. additional citations may be :helpful.Rollback crown.svgAburnett001 {Talk} {#} 00:23, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

unknown[edit source]

So swiftswitch isn't against the rules? I thought it was now? I hate people who used that. Onyx.pngMalestro16:18, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
It was a grey area for ages. Eventually Jagex did the right thing and banned it. Then everyone complained, so they unbanned it. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 16:21, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
"The right thing?" BS. Do you know how many merchants were ruined and prices raised because of world 2 inaccessibilty?Dark0805 17:50, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
By breaking the rules? No, nor do I care. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 20:47, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
It was the ethically right thing. They cheat, they get in trouble. Dragon medium helm! Whaddaya know?Chiafriend12Better than rune!I have 12 friends. 20:55, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
SwiftKit was banned because of the world switcher function. When Jagex banned it it was called SwiftSwitch. Since then the geniuses behind it brought it up to code so to speak with Jagex and it was then unbanned. 75.216.122.121 20:32, July 25, 2010 (UTC)Webster3of7

Easter eggs[edit source]

Perhaps there should be an image to confirm the series of pop-ups and to show it? Dragon medium helm! Whaddaya know?Chiafriend12Better than rune!I have 12 friends. 20:56, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

You JUST called it cheating, and now you want people to use it? -.- ChristineTalk 21:00, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
No, I want to see what it looks like. People can just turn it on and never log in, so no breaking of any rule. Dragon medium helm! Whaddaya know?Chiafriend12Better than rune!I have 12 friends. 21:09, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Once i can get my own comp ill try and get screen shot of it, although i probably wont get one till christmas. Saradomin cloak.pngoblivion 08:30, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Ugh againPumpkin.pngAtlandy 21:31, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
It's not against the rules any more, so I have no objection to people using it - and I don't see why anyone would. Just thought I'd point that out. I might not agree with Jagex changing their minds, but they did, and there's nothing I we can do about it. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 07:28, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

EliteSwitch[edit source]

I think that the link to the EliteSwitch website should be deleted as this wiki supports all jagex rules, therefore should not activly advertise rule-breaking software. Prayer~ArtwichtalkSummoning 16:04, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Account security[edit source]

Are there any concerns with using a third-party program to play, such as account security? I'd like to go back to using it but I don't want to get hacked as a result. --Andorin (Talk) (Contribs) 19:37, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Against[edit source]

I think we should delete this article or completely rewrite it, its written like an advert --Gertjaars 00:37, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

How is it at all like an advert, the article is just stating the features that swiftkit incorporates, as well as many other pieces of relevant info. if your serious about it, but it up for VFD, put its not necessary/worth it.Rollback crown.svgAburnett001 {Talk} {#} 00:39, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
It's not an advertisement. It is RuneScape-related, and popular enough to have its own article on the wiki. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 01:40, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Just as I feel, thank you CTeng. Rollback crown.svgAburnett001 {Talk} {#} 22:09, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
To me this is no different to having an fan-fiction article on the wiki. It is not official runescape related and thus should not be on the wiki. And if this article is staying then why not the countless other "legal" toolkits or browser add-ons? --Gold ore.png Mercifull UK serv.svg (Talk) 08:01, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
SK's entire purpose is to be related to RuneScape. This program is widely used by the community, being downloaded over 23,000 times on download.com alone proves that this software is popular amongst players, which is why it should be kept on the Wiki. Cflm001 Talk | Sign Here 08:41, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, there isn't a rule saying that only official, in-game info should be allowed on the wiki. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 23:17, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Don't delete[edit source]

Personally, I don't see why we should delete this article. Swiftkit is a part of runescape. Not officially, but people use it instead of a web browser or the client provided by the runescape website. If the article is too "commercial", rewrite it. Black cavalier.png Zenihdrol Tribal top (blue).png 05:15, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes! The page is good with all the Wiki Rules! Keep it!--Snowball (2006 Christmas event) 5.png Alex1496 Snowball (2006 Christmas event) 5.png 01:05, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Easter Eggs (2)[edit source]

In the easter eggs section, it only tells the location of the first three, but not what they actually are. I do not have swiftkit, so i am unable to make an edit with accurate information --WoodcuttingEnigma My Talk Dragon hatchet.png 04:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Revamp[edit source]

Well, basically I've gone round and sorted the fact from the fiction, as well as explained a few points.

"SwiftSwitch was controversial even before Rule 15 was added. In early 2006, Andrew Gower made a post on the forum of fan site Zybez (where SwiftSwitch could be downloaded) complaining about the ad blocking feature and even went as far as accusing Zybez of "backstabbing" Jagex for providing the free game. Gower also stated that the bandwidth usage due to SwiftSwitch was about half of the total bandwidth of the RuneScape website due to the hiscore feature. In response, the ad-blocking feature was removed in the next version of SwiftSwitch, but as compensation, Jagex later added an HTML-free hiscore feature that was designed specifically for such programs and would not affect Jagex's bandwidth significantly."

Where does this come from?? Andrew contacted Strider directly. There was never such post, or accusation.

Ads were not block, they were hidden. And it was their partners who complained.

SwiftKit/SwiftSwitch was never and never can be illegal, illegal implies laws have been broken, and none can be, at least not with the violation of JAGEX's ToS. I've reworded that paragraph.

I also haven't cited much, because its coming straight from the horses mouth as it were, seeing as I represent SwiftKit.

SwiftKit-Zanith 03:00, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Where is your proof that you represent SwiftKit? Ruud (talk)(Suggest me naems) 03:13, November 24, 2009 (UTC)


Your e-mail address has now been confirmed.

Welcome!

My email is '[email protected]' you're welcome to email :) SwiftKit-Zanith 03:45, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

I apologize for any accusation that you are anything other than who you claim to be.... particularly for complaining about libelous information like that listed above. Any statements like that should be sourced, and apparently it wasn't. Thank you for your contribution to this wiki, and such claims will be kept out of this article in the future if they are without merit. --Robert Horning 11:23, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
Reason for Undo, significant content was simply stripped, and renamed a section called JAGEX's Views. JAGEX has no view on a particular client, let alone SwiftKit, Mods are not allowed to refer to SwiftKit directly. This section was not cited, because its purely fictitious. SwiftKit-Zanith 22:08, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

I admit to using swiftkit every now and then. its in no way breaking the rules. its basically runehq (a popular rs site). only instead of opening a new tab u can acess it in-game. as for accoutn security there are no reported cases of someone getting hacked from swiftkit.


so why should we get baned for using a guide and playing with a skill calculator?  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 98.88.61.160 (talk).

Simply put, you won't! As long as you don't intercept or directly access the Jagex servers, there is no way for Jagex to even identify if you are using any "3rd party software" to help you out. SwiftKit is a "legal" piece of software to use while playing Runescape. --Robert Horning 15:26, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Final Decision of JaGeX[edit source]

Finally, is the final version of SwiftSwitch, with the ads in and the login screen available, legal and ok with the Rules of Runescape and won't get me banned? Please be sure of your answer, because i spent too much time on my account to have it threw into crap in seconds.--Snowball (2006 Christmas event) 5.png Alex1496 Snowball (2006 Christmas event) 5.png 01:05, December 30, 2009 (UTC)


Yes Jagex now approves of SwitKit You will not be banned, I've been using it since it was reposted (for download) and approved by Jagex. SwiftKit is just a browser with a few tools now, and doesn't affect actual gameplay. Webster3of7 75.216.122.121 20:39, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

SwiftKit is still against the rules:



http://www.runescape.com/rules/rule_third_party_software.ws

2. What type of third-party software is NOT allowed?

This includes, but is not limited to the following third-party software:

...

4.Modified or replacement versions of our game applets. Reverse-engineering our game applets is strictly prohibited. Using a modified version of our game applets is not permitted for any reason. Third-party software that displays pages/content from our website(s), and that has specific features (i.e. toolkits) must not be used to access our website unless that software conforms with all of the other rules, and the following additional rules:

...

It must not attempt to make it easier to enter a busy game world than it would be for users not using the software. It must not contain any features to make it easier to enter or monitor busy worlds.[*][color=red]If the software has its own integrated chat feature, separate from the game chat, it should make it very clear to users that this chat is not part of our games and is not official, endorsed, or moderated by Jagex in any way. Furthermore, this chat should still be moderated (just not by us), and the moderators should not allow chat which infringes our Rules of Conduct. To avoid confusion with the official game chat, moderators of the external chat should not be indicated with a silver or gold crown. If the chat is IRC based, then the software should only allow access to IRC channels which conform with the above rules.

Swiftkit doesn't violate those rules though and has been officially approved by Jagex. Matt (t) 12:54, July 9, 2011 (UTC)