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Untitled[edit source]

I know there's not much info available about this, but there's still an awful lot of speculation on this page... Sir Revan125 20:47, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

So far, that's the point. Weird how Guthix is the main user of this, as the image and the Meeting History quest proves, yet it is named after a later god. Was it a lost artefact? Hehe, this is what the digsite boat is for?tobylaneTalk 08:59, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Seeing as the Oracle has said "Jas left a Stone behind." It's possible to assume Jas was here before Guthix. Although it's pure theory, it adds up -Holierthanu1

Now what im thinking is Lucenia wants to use the Stone to become a god. And I was wondering science your player touches it dose he/she become a god and you will find it out in a later quest? For all we know your character good be Guthix's successor

The article theorizes that the Fist of Guthix may be the Stone of Jas, but I think the Fist may just be an extremely powerful magical indentation left behind by the Stone of Jas (Possibly the Stone of Jas used to be located there?) Anybody agree with this theory? Gondor2222 22:43, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Is'nt it possible that the eye of saradomin and the fist of guthix are two seperate items? Because in movario's notes (vol 2) it says:

'Is this true of the Eye of Saradomin as well? Not one, but two items used by the gods on Gielinor?'

So is it right that in this article the eye of saradomin and the fist of guthix are both names for the stone of jas

I think that the fist of guthix could be referred to as the stone of jas because of this:

'Only a brother with this knowledge can take the path to the hand of power'

The above quote uses the word hand to describe the stone of jas and hand=fist.

I havnt found any hard evidence that they are both references to the same item thou, but correct me if im wrong.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk).

The stone seems to be a later effort to make stuff, after meeting history's events of the teleport. tobylaneTalk 22:32, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Uhh[edit source]

So using the Stone of Jas while doing While Guthix Sleeps... will increase your combat level to 255?--

Summoning-icon.png NuparuMahnika Falador shield 2.png

08:38, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

That is correct, but it's only a temporary boost while you're fighting the Tormented Demons. Janevx 00:00, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Mr. V-7[edit source]

Ok, we know that this fremmenik V----- dude was the first to discover and touch the Stone, and he found it in a cave on Lunar Isle. Now why in the hell do we have two V-7 pages?: Vasador Valator

There's only ONE. As said in the article, players get different names in the quest, but it's really Vasador. Other people have confirmed this is his real name on other sites (check out this RS Forum thread: NOW THAT IS SAD! I viewed it like 5 minutes ago, and now there's this july 27th update "forum maintenence". Go read up, i'll post the link later.) We only need one V-7. I highly doubt there was two fremmenik's with a v-7 name. It's Vasador. Plain and simple. Oh, and I found some nice concept artwork for Vasador ^_^ Here you go, thanks Mercifull of Tip.It.:

--Quest point cape.pngLil Diriz 77 Talk Summoning-icon.png 11:22, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

If the finder has a different name for everyone, then what makes Vasador the right one? As far as I know, Vasador and Valator are the only possibilities we have articles on because they are both mentioned in Movario's Notes, meaning that even if the player isn't given their name during the cutscene, they still have been mentioned in-game for everyone. There was a VFD about it a while ago and that's how it was settled. I tried looking at the thread you linked to, but I can't find it. Quest.png Morian Smith Saradomin crozier.png 16:32, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

But other names (the article tells me this), such as Vanjute, Verisad, Vistola, and Vonjuta are mentioned. 1) There's no Valator. 2) I think the article is incorrect. Basically the person who wrote the section "References to the Stone > The Basics of Magic" must've liked the name Vasador best, as the editor says that it WAS Vasador, yet, other people have gotten other names. Why couldn't we say something like this:

"The man's name starts with V, and is 7 letters long. Each player may get a different name, including Vasador, Vanjute, Verisad, Vistola, and Vonjuta."

Saying it IS Vasador is biased. The person must've liked the name. Therefore, I say we delete Vasador and Valator (especially Valator since he's not mentioned in the article), and create a page named V7 or V------ or something of the sort.

BTW, I don't know what happened to the link, it works for me, goes straight to the Tip.It forum. Try searching on Google: "tipit neanderthal". It's the first link. --Quest point cape.pngLil Diriz 77 Talk Summoning-icon.png 22:17, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I just read the Movario's notes (volume 1) article, and I read it in game. Both confirm the names Valator and Vasador. But where the hell did we get Vanjute, Verisad, Vistola, and Vonjuta from then? If other players might be able to see that, shouldn't we add this to the Notes 1 article?:

...possibly Valator or Vasador (NOTE: These two names may differ by player, and may also be Vanjute, Verisad, Vistola, and Vonjuta.), who found it.

--Quest point cape.pngLil Diriz 77 Talk Summoning-icon.png 23:53, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Theory on the stone[edit source]

I don't belive this myself but couldn't it be possible that the stone of jas is infact an elder Dragon egg. It is the source of the anima mundi, the source of all life and it is said that as long 'as the elder dragons live the world will not end', also guthix found it when it came to gielinor and did not bring it with him.

The elder gods could very well be elder dragons being that jas is actually an elder dragon and that the stone is its egg (however, if this is true jas would most lickly be female and it is refferd to as He in the quest 'while guthix sleeps').

but it could also very well be that they are two seprate things which just have the word 'elder' in them (this is probably just a term to describe the first gods and first species on geilonor).

finally the stone of jas sort of resembles an egg in a way.

This is just a theory though so to those of you who might do not take this to heart.

--Zwill redeye 09:26, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Elder dragons...? Dragons were created by the Dragonkin. The stone of Jas is not an egg. --Gold ore.png Mercifull UK serv.svg (Talk) 10:30, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes i know, This is just a theory.

There is a slight posibilety though that the elder dragons and the dragonkin arn't the same thing, if you examine the fairy dragon in zaniris it says 'could this be one of the elder dragons?' a posibilty arises here that this fairy dragon could be one of the elder dragons or at least some how realated to them in some way like the bandos avatar who is bandoss sub-conscious for example, though i do understand what you are trying to say, the dragonkin were probably the elderdragons but so far, with all the information i have collected, dragonkin have never been reffered to as elder dragons, only necrosycrtes.

I know for definate though that the Dragonkin did create dragons (or at least some of them) but people asume that because they created them they must be elder dragons which is simpley not the case (as of yet). they could be two seprate things.

Dragonkin could be however elderdragons since they did create dragons and where around before guthix entered the plain. Maybe it is stated 'as long as the elderdragons live the world will survive' because they are the guardians of the stone of jas and if they did/do not guard it the stone might fall into the wrong hands (like lucien for example who has recentaly claimed the stone or some god of destruction) also maybe the term 'elder' is used to describe something that existed before guthix arrived, makes sence dosn't it {elder god, elder dragon}?

Oh, as for the stone of jas, all i was suggesting that it kind of looks like a egg stuck in a rock (if you ask me) and it is the source of the anima mundi so it might not be an inanimate object as it first appears but an actual living dentity/entity of some kind who releses large amounts of power the closer you get to it.

But all i have said is nothing but theory,until jagex adds more easter eggs or new quests to the game (or some one gives a peice of evidance to correct me) all i have said is merely suggestion and cannot be proved or thrown away (as how theorys work) just yet.

--Zwill redeye 12:19, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

P.S. If there are any weaknesses in what i have said please comment. I don't perticully care if im right or not as its bound to happen.

Zwill, I think you may be right. Due to your theroy, I have added to mine. Jas is like God. He created Gielinor, and made the ElderDragons. Jas is infact an Elder God, and remains absent in Gielinor, but yet showing signs, like revealing the Stone of Jas to the human/elf/dwarf or something Guthix, and Guthix touched it, thus becoming a God. -- Son0-Guthix

Philosopher's stone?[edit source]

Isn't this the Runescape version of Philosopher's stone? -- 09:25, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

closest thing to that is the stone of jas (i asume thats why you'v asked this in this article?) but it doesn't give you eternal life though.

--Zwill redeye 20:24, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I think you're quite right, since it was used by Lucien who attempted to become god (therefore immortal). Never really thought of that before :o ---------------  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) on 18:22, January 26 2012 (UTC).

I think the stone of Jas is much more powerful than the philosopher's stone. Not everything needs to have a real-life analogy. My contributionsTHARKONSignatures I made 19:39, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

V-------[edit source]

My thery on the mystery character: V------- is that it is Vanstrom Klause. He is a Vampyre who are almost immortal. God's aren't patticularly immortal. That was proved juring the GodWars. I personally think that it's Vanstrom Klause because he was a Seer of Rellaka. He found the stone and touched it, but it had a different, more negitive effect for him. He was transformed to a Vampyre because he touched the stone. -Son0-Guthix

Jas The God?[edit source]

I do, my self, believe that Jas was there before Guthix, and when Guthix arrived, it was Jas had him come through by magic, but left before Guthix saw anything of him. Guthix found the stone, touched it, then formed the planet to his liking, and after that opened the world portal and allowed humans, dwarves, elves, goblins, and all the other races into Gielinor.

Stone of Jas Banner GIF[edit source]

Say, could someone upload the Stone of Jas Banner from the official Runescape Homepage on to the wiki in gif form or something? Is that allowed? Is that possible? I myself don't know how to do it, but it would make a pretty cool addition to the page. If someone wants to do it, they should probably do it quick before Jagex decides to put a new banner up. Lord Drakan 20:21, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Why would we upload it as a gif as well? The stationary image is more than enough, and if I recall correctly, the only animation the actual banner has is the odd twinkle here and there. Ronan Talk 20:26, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

SoJ Boost?[edit source]

So, quick question.

When you enter the glacor cave after the quest and you receive the residual SoJ power.. Does that happen only once? After the four hours are over, do you never get that boost again?  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) on 22:54, December 1, 2011 (UTC).

You get the boost every time you enter the area. Infinitely usable. It only works in quite a few locations, like Chaos Tunnels and Fremennik Slayer Caves, but you can only activate it in that cave. My contributionsTHARKONSignatures I made 00:58, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Combat boosts[edit source]

I think the map found here

would be a great addition to the combat boost section, the range is probably a lot larger than people think. An indiction that green = 6%, yellow = 5%, orange = 4%, and red =3% could also be added to better explain the how the boost works. Or maybe on the ROTM page in or after the 'Rewards' section would be more appropriate. Jetdeagon (talk) 01:57, September 29, 2012 (UTC)

SoJ is THE elder artefact.[edit source]

In the campfire session one of the mods stated that the elder gods used the stone of jas to create all other elder artefacts. Also, elder artefacts may have souls. Law rune.png Samberen Nature rune.png 03:02, June 28, 2013 (UTC)

yes for the first, no for the latter (it was an interesting idea that they might be working with, it wasn't definite). . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 09:05, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

Location[edit source]

We know the following, right?

  • The stone was in Saradomin's possession for a long time.
  • The stone was at one time in Meiyerditch.
  • Meiyerditch used to be the Saradoministic Hallowvale.

So would it be logical to conclude that it was there when Saradomin had it, or would that be speculation, or both?  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tharkon (talk) on 02:54, October 3, 2013.

I can't believe how I managed to not sign that. With the reminder and all that. My contributionsTHARKONSignatures I made 23:04, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

Article re-write?[edit source]

I was looking for a possible re-write of the article to accommodate what we now know since Fate of the Gods, and get the sources down. This is a huge project, so we'll need to organize the article beforehand. I was thinking for the body:

  • Known Lore
    • current location
    • combat bonus
  • History (location, who had it when, etc.)
  • History in content (references and implications from previous content)
  • Trivia

I think this would make the article more concise (and hopefully more accurate) after a full revision. What do you think? Godwhacker 23:58, April 8, 2014 (UTC)  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Godwhacker (talk) on 23:58, April 8, 2014 (UTC).

Stone used to help create Freneskae?[edit source]

In the Early History section, it says that the stone was used to create Freneskae. How exactly is this possible if Freneskae existed before Jas and Jas created the Stone of Jas? Jas hatched on Freneskae which was created during the last "Great Revision" so there's no way it could have been used to help make Freneskae.

Or am I missing or misunderstanding some bit of information?

 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) on 21:45, September 10, 2014 (UTC).