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Shouldn't we say it is confirmed that Sliske led to the destruction(and resurrection) of the six brothers? There are numerous facts that support this:

  • The lores and history says that the stranger "had no love for either sides" and that they will have victory against the "Usurper", which is a Zarosian name for Zamorak.
  • In postbag 28 a player states that Sliske is indeed the stranger from the story. If this wasn't true Jagex would probably just have left this letter out.

I suppose that this is enough evidence to confirm this.--Nantafiria 19:16, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

"This is contradicted by Postbag 38, where Azzanadra says that Sliske does not hide, and is the master of the legions of Zaros[4]."

This is incorrect.

Read closely this extract from hedge 38: "Finally, be sure of one thing: Sliske does not hide. An ally he may be, but I did not become master of my Lord's legions."

Azzandra states that he was the leader of his master's legions, not Sliske.

You are right, I mis-read it, well spotted. Administrator Hurston (T # C) 13:59, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Erm whomever wrote that Sliske is the first to have not immediatly achieved godhood, we don't even know if he has, and in fact Zamorak was away a couple of years to develop his godly powers. Zanovar (talk) 12:40, March 20, 2013 (UTC)
Lots of new lore has been revealed in the Mahjarrat Memories miniquest, and revealed that Azzandra became a Pontifex Maximus, head of the Zarosian church, and Sliske became a Praetorian, or a brute assassin in simple terms. Revealed in Jhallan's memories. Should someone edit in how manipulative Sliske is an uncaring for mortals, as described in Ralvash's memory? 02:49, March 19, 2014 (UTC)

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There's too much speculation on the page now. Should I remove it? WWTDD? 17:38, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, just be certain, as the editor of the page, I'm not saying this just to protect it. Look, the sad truth is, speculation is all that we have of Sliske as of now, the only mentions we have to him are in the postbags. And while it may seem bad to speculate, its better to have a collection of the greater ideas and theory's of players based on the postbags, than to just have 3 sentences of facts. But I can also see your point on the idea that it may seem misleading, we may want to add something at the top or bottom. But deleting it seems like a waste of everyone's time.

yea, i kinda find it a problem.. some is ok, but "since we all know mortainia is planning to attack varrock" that could be slightly mean to some, i think. And, no one mentions the possible sliske statue in azzandras pyrmid? Zaros lord 02:09, 12 February 2009 (UTC)zaros_lord

The heavy amount of unsourced and baseless speculation is unencyclopedic and ought to be removed. We can just admit that we have no idea where Sliske is currently located. It looks silly to try and infer his position simply based on, "We know he was at the Barrows a couple hundred years ago so he's probably still nearby now." I think the article on dragonkin is a better example of what an article like this one should look like. I'll revise this article. troacctid 00:03, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, i agree the dragonkin article is better, but there is a ton more information on the dragonkin, we have very little information on sliske at the moment. Also, think that we're hardly just "guessing" at his position, looking at the small bit of evidence we have, we might as well make an educated guess than have no idea where he is at all. And looking at the barrows idea, it think it is perfectly legit. Sliske is unlikely to have made a cross-runescape journey in the height of Zamorak's power, he is most likely to be somewhere in mortainia.
But again, if everyone disagrees with me, i'll submit, and let my hour of analyzing, and studying go to waste.

Sorry to disturb you (all) but, if to delve means to search or to dig with a spadee, can't we say that he is looking for something? (in the shadows), and remember that he delved into the barrows shadows sometime ago, so we can say that he is delving into the shadows of morytania? --- jocaypa (right now logged off)

We might be all distracted from the real whereabouts of Sliske. I first thought that he might be somewhere in the Shadow Realm trying to 'dig' through it, to possibly reach Zaros.

But digging could also mean looking for information (possibly to revive Zaros). I think the Shadows shouldn't be taken literally, it might just mean something which has no (to little) attention, like old archives. Zemouregal referred to Sliske as a slippery fellow in his notes. I always kept that in mind, so when I was training agility at the Agility Pyramid and spoke to Simon Templeton I noticed something. When you're selling pyramid tops to Simon your character asks him about the identity of his boss. Simon replies that it's of no concern to you (us/your character), but that it's certainly not Osman. This is what he says: "Well it's not that Osman - I can tell ya that much. Don't have dealings with him; he's a slippery customer." One cannot miss the use of the word slippery.

Maybe Sliske is disguised as a spy. It'd make sense as 'his actions can be seen each and every day in the smallest of this world's details'. Also he could look for ancient artifacts and documents without ever being noticed.

  • sliske appears to be more clever than we thought during The Temple at Senntisten you can talk to the strange old man about the barrows he seems to expecting you...also Azzanadra somewhat confirms that someone charged them to guard the icon

Isn't it possible that the allusions of 'shadows', 'delvers', and 'don't dare', could mean that Sliske is where we least expect it: within the light? I mean, anything associated with pure light or good is a place where shadows don't dwell, and if Sliske is chalked up to be as devious and sneaky as he/she/it is, then I wouldn't be half surpised if Sliske were part of or even in control of some of the 'lightest' factions in Gielnor, like the White Knights?

AvatarofDeath 02:40, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

On the talking of White Knights and Sliske; did anyone think it was really weird and out of place building a Zaros Altar in the White Knights castle in Falador after Elite Acheivement Diary???
So I mean that'd make more sense, also the White Knights don't really seem to follow Saradomin with their actions such as practically taking falador when the king fell "ill". Zaros symbol.png Dys Sliske talk 14:00, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

"Sliske himself did not kill his Barrows toys, but it was the power he granted them that sealed their fate. Power is fleeting, and Sliske always gets what he wants out of deals; I’d advise, should you ever meet him, not to make deals with him." Tons of info on Sliske and a bit on Bilrach in the Postbag check it and yeah it's greatness. Sliske is a scary mofo. Zaros symbol.png Dys Sliske talk 21:53, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Way or another thou hast, most obviously..[edit source]

Why yes, every mahjarrat usually attempts to gather much power as they can, for upcoming rituals, of course, such as gathering prayer energy from those foulish-enought adventures that are rushing into those Barrowian catacombs. Way or another thou hast, most obviously..  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 14:31, June 4, 2011 (talk) on

What?If I remember, Enakhra is not doing anything to gain immeasurable power, nor is her rival. Jhallan is encased in ice for safety. If Ali the wise really is a mahjarrat, then he's trying to bring down zemorugal and lucien as opposed to getting power. Not all mahjarrat appear to be strictly power thirsty. Achievements Coelacanth0794 Talk Contribs 14:35, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Image: Sliske_detail.png

It may look a little glitchy. It looks ok on the Wiki, but on my PC it blurs.

If it blurs on the Wiki, please edit it.

Godhood?[edit source]

Mod Osborne stated that his favourite God is a mortal that will soon ascend into Godhood. This was prior to the release of The World Wakes. The only Mortal who has possibly achieved Godhood is Sliske = Sliske is a God...

Sliske symbol.png Draconis E Talk Illuminated Book of Balance.png 00:15, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

It's also been stated that Sliske is far too loyal to Zaros to cause a possible threat to him and become a god. Anyway, I think it's too obvious for him to be the ascending mortal. Ellie Mirra (talk) 18:19, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Yes he is a god. Sliske has even some God Emissaries. Since player=immune for god, sliske can't turn you in a barrows brother/sister anymore.-- K'ril Tsutsaroth chathead.png Quilafa Guthix chathead.pngTalkBandos chathead.png 19:21, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

The article states that Sliske's emissary is, frankly and bluntly, a misinformed twat. In other words, he doesn't care and, according to the ones who know him best (Wahi and Az), he isn't a god. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 18:48, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
Sliske isn't proved to be a god yet, as stated by Mod Osborne, his Emissary is misinformed on Sliske, and she follows him due for him freeing her, and when she was trapped in the Shadow realm. When she heard of him killing Guthix, she believes he became a god right away. SHE HAS NO PROOF OF IT WHAT SO EVER, backing up Osborne statement on her being misinformed. Sliske two friends, Never stated he isn't a god, that stated he never had a mind of plan to become one, and might not wish to become one due for the responsibility. in over all there is still no proof what so ever.Kinglink15 (talk) 16:32, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

God infobox[edit source]

How the hell is it important when one insane housemaid thinks he's a god and admits herself she just THINKS it? RotM happens BEFORE TWW. The RotM infobox contains more information on Sliske than does the "god" one and, once again, we shouldn't be implying that he is a god with 100% certainty. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 16:22, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

you have a point But what does ROTM being before TWW have to do with this? I don't understand why you imply to it. ANY WHO! The God tab is kept there because of now or soon he will have player followers. Not only that, it is listed as"God" and ofcourse it is already listed his Emissary is badly informed. So over all, the Info-box is only kept for Emissary, as it has his symbol she created, and his Philosophy.Kinglink15 (talk) 16:37, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
I keep saying that because the primary infobox should be the one with the form first encountered, i.e. the RotM one. And indeed it is the symbol SHE created and the alignment SHE came up with. In other words, it's not even a god infobox, but a "what-this-mental-woman-thinks-infobox". I bet she never entered the Shadow Realm, she was just completely pissed. That aside, we haven't got any facts in the infobox, aside from the race and examine text. Which are in the RotM thingy too. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 16:41, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
We're not saying he's a god, but we need a place to put his alignment and symbol. We don't have a "maybe a god but not really" infobox, unfortunately, and I don't see the point in creating one JUST for Sliske. Also, going by the logic that ROTM takes place before The World Wakes, we should have Young Hazelmere be the first infobox on his page. And Rejuvinated Lucien on his page. And Naragi Guthix on his page. God!Sliske is the first infobox because it's the most relevant. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 16:39, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
I'm not saying the infobox should be removed, it just shouldn't be displayed as the primary infobox. It seems the least relevant to me. And we encounter old Hazelmere before young Hazelmere, god Guthix before Naragi Guthix (human form is out of the question here, because that was just a disguise). User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 16:46, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
I'd say it's the most relevant, some people probably don't even know how to use the switch infobox. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 17:36, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
They have to click a button. Also, suppose they wouldn't be able to access any but the first infobox, it DEFINITELY should be the NPC one, not the god one. Which consists of speculation only (not ours, but Relomia's). User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 17:47, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
For once, I agree 100% with Fswe. Suppa chuppa Talk 18:45, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
Same here, It's better to have the NPC one first.Kinglink15 (talk) 18:48, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Relomia[edit source]

Is Relomia another one of Sliske's wights? She ain't human (at least not anymore), and given how much Sliske loves to make wights, it's reasonable to think she is one, too. Him deceiving her into thinking he's a god, is probably just another one of his pranks. 18:17, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

She isn't, she was trapped in the Shadow realm for to long, and Sliske isn't doing anything, she just believes he is a god her self because she heard he killed Guthix. So Sliske isn't doing anything to her to make her believe.Kinglink15 (talk) 18:19, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

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"he established his name permanently in the history of [Gielinor]] when he slew Guthix using the Staff of Armadyl] in order to allow Zaros to return, ending the age abruptly and supplying himself with significant amounts of power."

It really is very uncertain (even after the events of Missing, Presumed Death) to say he slew guthix in order to enable Zaros' return. In fact, it is accepted by a number of NPCs and JMods that he may well have done it for his own ends rather than to aide Zaros and it is still unknown where his loyalties lie.

On that point, why would he simply give away the Stone of Jas at the lunar eclipse, rather than gift it to Zaros if he were loyal to him. (Ignoring the fact that he has evidently been using and drawing power from it)

Might i suggest removing this particualar passage therefore? 

-Hum 23:44, October 15, 2013 (UTC)

This is information from NPC, and it was confirmed by Jmod that it was the reason why. Even Azzandra admitted that Sliske wanted to kill Guthix instead of talking to him. IT is unknown of what Sliske really plans to do with the Stone, he might be using the his plan to rid of the gods slowly, so they don't ally against Zaros, it is unknown what Sliske plans on doing at all.Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 02:29, October 16, 2013 (UTC)
It is said that whatever he does is for Zaros or himself but I can't remember where that was from. I think it was one of the mahjarrat?
It is also said that "Sliske is not to be trusted" so he likely tricked the gods in Missing, Presumed Death. It's safe to say he will likely not reward the Stone of Jas to any of the gods, the power could be to just aid Zaros or himself. Also so that all the competing gods would all kill each other (or maybe just the latter considering the dragonkin are tied to the stone, you know) ~ EmileWillows (talk) 16:13, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

Infobox[edit source]

Why exactly are his ROTM appearances the first thing people see on the page? That look is used in a single quest that takes place in the fifth age. His TWW look has been used more often, more recently, and is his current canonical appearance. Either the Diety or World Wakes infobox should be the first thing people see when they look at the page. Armadyl symbol.png Nightgunner Talk Illuminated Book of Law.png 16:19, October 18, 2013 (UTC)

  1. Consistency with other Mahjarrat pages (bar Zamorak), who use the skeletal infobox as the first one
  2. The skeletal form is the first encountered (chronologically and canonically), hence the above point
  3. We shouldn't use the god infobox because it's still unconfirmed whether he is a god or not and placing it first would imply that we're stating it as fact User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 16:55, October 18, 2013 (UTC)

1 & 2: The most recent encounter should be the main one, not the least recent. Officially, the skeletal forms are in RuneScape's history, rather than in it's present. So in that case, all the other Mahjarrat should use their rejuvinated forms as the main one, rather than skeletal. 3: I initially just switched it so that the World Wakes appearance was first, rather than Deity. Somebody else changed it to Deity and I stuck with it. I'm not insistent on using the Deity infobox as main - TWW will suffice. Armadyl symbol.png Nightgunner Talk Illuminated Book of Law.png 01:33, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

All Mahjarrat (bar Zamorak, Bilrach and Kharshai, for obvious reasons) have their skeletal forms first because that is the first form players encounter of them (also the most iconic, because most rejuvenated models and chatheads are rather messed up). Since Sliske has not one but three rejuvenated forms, picking skeletal as the first for him makes even more sense. Choosing his TWW form because it is the most recent we've seen doesn't really matter - by that logic, Vanstrom would have his monster infobox from TBoD first, Hreidmar and Grimsson their chaos forms and Zanik her adventuring one. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 07:50, October 19, 2013 (UTC)
"(also the most iconic, because most rejuvenated models and chatheads are rather messed up)." - That is your opinion, not a fact. The rejuvinated form of the Mahjarrat is not only the most recent version of the characters, but it is also their "true" form, and most relevant to recent events. I don't just mean most recent because it's the version used in recent quests - I mean it in the sense that the skeletal version only appear in content now deemed to be part of the game's backstory.
"by that logic, Vanstrom would have his monster infobox from TBoD first, Hreidmar and Grimsson their chaos forms and Zanik her adventuring one." - Hreidmar and Grimsson may have been in their Chaos forms when they died, but that isn't the most important incarnation of their character's looks, unlike the rejuvinated mahjarrat. Vanstrom doesn't really change his appearance at all, so it's irrelevant. I would agree that Zanik's adventurer look should be first, though it may be best to wait for her to be used in Sixth Age content before comitting to that change. Armadyl symbol.png Nightgunner Talk Illuminated Book of Law.png 17:39, October 19, 2013 (UTC)

Loki[edit source]

This guy seems to be very much based on Loki. Worth it to add that? KarstenO (talk) 12:58, December 12, 2014 (UTC)

If you can put some of those similarities into words, maybe, I don't know too much about Loki. So what've you got? :p This is AzzanadraEnixus 14:41, December 12, 2014 (UTC)
Loki is frequently described as a trickster god. He shares the smiling deceitful Mask with Sliske, and according to legend when Ragnarok - the Norse end times - comes, Loki will slay Heimdallr, "the whitest of the gods", "the world-watcher", something very similar to either Guthix or an Elder God. Not only that, but Loki also ascended to become an aesir (the name for the main gods of Norse mythology) from being jötunn, a race dubbed as mythological giants very similar to the mahjarrat. It's often unclear in Norse mythology whether Loki is no longer a jötunn or if he is both a jötunn and an aesir, similar to Sliske's lack of recognition.
Is this enough for a trivia mention? :P KarstenO (talk) 12:03, December 26, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah I'd say that's plenty, go for it This is AzzanadraEnixus 17:00, December 26, 2014 (UTC)

Power/Abilities Update/Dishonour Among Theives?[edit source]

So should somebody update Sliske's current abilities, like during Dishounor Among Theives; Sliske's power seem to increased due to the shadow realm, foreshadow creation, and etc! Like should that be in the update? And should the history, personality, and etc should also be update? 12:14, March 15, 2015 (UTC)