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Untitled[edit source]

God of the freebiesMilldog 93 16:48, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Barrows brothers follow saradomin?[edit source]

I really doubt that they follow saradomin. Sleepydragn1 21:48, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Read the on-site material: Basically they followed Saradomin when they were alive. They're assumed to be Zamorakian now. Chaoticar 09:14, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

actually, most people think they follow zaros, after their death, and saradomin before.

As said above it's commonly thought that Sliske gave the Barrows brothers their armor and now uses them to serve Zaros as proven in The Temple at Senntisten. Zaros will rise. Power to the Great Lord! 22:31, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

The barrows brothers made a deal with sliske. What they got in return was strength and power and the price to pay was to worship zaros after the deal expired and be resurrected as living beings when zaros returns.

Saradomin is a Mahjarrat??[edit source]

Does anyone know where this info came from? Wouln't this mean that he was from the same tribe as Zamorak? Piety.png Sir Lenehan File:Smite old.png|30px 08:51, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't know where it came from. Dragon medium helm! Whaddaya know?Chiafriend12Better than rune!Loon is best buttlord 09:06, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Currently it's no more than rumour and conjecture, as I don't think the link has ever been mentioned in-game or in on-site material. Chaoticar 09:11, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
That might have been started by me, and as far as Mod Matt P (I think thats what his name was) says, its the truth, back when I played Runescape I was really into Runescapian theology and I had nice long discussions with the guy, go ask him yourself tell him felinoel sent you, I wonder if he remembers felinoel ~ (Talk) 18:46, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Is there at all a lot known where teh Gods came from? I don't think so. I mean is Seren, for example in of her kind, like Guthix, or Zaros. We know Zamorak is a member of a species/tribe, but do other gods have something like family (is it genertic family, or allignment based?)? Or are they more like single enteties? Where would this place Sara - and his relationship to Armadyl (who were friends of somesort)?

Brother tobi? What?[edit source]

Some random IP added that name to list of followers, and it sounds like a joke. But since I am not sure I am asking if anyone really knows for sure. SO we can delete it if needed or make Brother Tobis page if hes real--Degenret01 09:36, 7 May 2008 (UTC).

I agree. Brother Tobi did exist, but doesn't seem to now. But when it did, it was completely empty. Either this gets filled out, or he is replaced in the list by someone more deserving. let me think:

Brother Tobi, as far as I know, either doesn't exist, or is a minor character. Gaz Lloyd 18:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Or they could all be added to the list and Tobi could stay. There's not a limit to the list or anything. Dragon medium helm! Whaddaya know?Chiafriend12Better than rune!Loon is best buttlord 18:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

The list should not have more than one or two of them added, since it is a list of some notable saradomists, not of all saradomists. Since you are so keen on keeping this "Brother Tobi" you should create the page and fill it out. Until then, I vote that Tobi should be removed, at least until there is some information making him a notable saradomist on his page. Gaz Lloyd 19:05, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Who is this "brother tobi" I have done all the myreque quests and searched rather a lot of runescape. Throughout my experiences I cannot seem to remember that name. I don't think he is really necessary to speak about, after all I don't believe he is involved with any quests either. Revenant-Drag.png MonsterMan RS Name theskk 2 Quest point cape.png 03:03, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

I have scanned the web and there is no info about "Brother Tobi" except a user on this wiki and Sal's realm with that name. I'll remove it now because even if he is real, he is definitely not notable. Cheers, Chicken7 >talk 10:10, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Colour[edit source]

white is the colour of Guthix isn't it? -- 09:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

No, Guthix's colour is green/teal, as shown by the Guthix cape and Book of balance. Saradomin is white/blue. Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 09:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

But his followers wear white, why can't it also be white? felinoel ~ (Talk) 18:47, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Followers[edit source]

What no Camelot? I always said that they were Christian since they were King Arthur and his knights of course, I always said that the backwards Saradomin alter in the Camelot castle is proof enough, although not too many people were fond of that so I allowed myself to be censored and called them Saradominists, especially since they have his alter in his castle felinoel ~ (Talk) 19:26, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Image[edit source]

The image of Saradomin from the God letters was pretty cool looking, why aren't you guys using that picture here as well as the modern look for Saradomin? felinoel ~ (Talk) 19:53, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

While browsing the God Letters, I found this picture, but it was never made clear if this is Saradomin or a monk. If it is Saradomin, could we put it in the article? Telos 19:31, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Pronunciation[edit source]

I know that we have the current pronunciation from a "letter to the gods", but what about the player NPC player spoof called "Sarah Domin"? That's definitely not "Sa-Raw Do Min" How do we know which is the correct one? Also, everyone I know has always said it "Sarah Do Min". But, of course, lots of people say it the other way, too. Maha Nadihan 03:26, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

No one is going to name their kid "Saw-Raw" it is more likely that they would name them "Sarah" felinoel ~ (Talk) 16:30, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you understand what I'm saying...I'll clarify. On the page Saradomin it says the pronunciation is "(Sa-raw-do-min)". This is a different pronunciation from the NPC called "Sarah Domin" (on the Gnomecopters). "Sa-raw" and "Sarah" are different. How do we know which pronunciation is correct? The current one on the page is from a "letter to the gods".Maha Nadihan 22:21, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
In the God Letters Saradomin said his name was pronounced Sa-Ra-Dome-In. I can't remember which issue, but I think it was somewhere near the end. Telos 19:31, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion for affiliated items[edit source]

I recently was gearing up for a GWD trip, and was thinking how much more useful the list of affiliated items would be if it was sorted by equipment slot, rather than the set it comes from. Thoughts? This would also be in the bandos, armadyl, and zamorak pages.

Zamorak's Brother?[edit source]

This isn't regarding Tobi. I was scanning through the god letters for information and Zamorak is clearly mentioned as Saradomin's brother. I assumed that it had been retconned (retroactive-continuity) for the sake of the establishment of the Majharrat and more complex plots as the games theology progressed, can anyone give some sort of confirmation? 07:10, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

The main gods often refer to eachother as brothers, I think in one letter to the gods (it might have been a Zammy) one of them mentions that it is figurative.--Armadyl Helm‎Long Live ArmadylArmadyl Helm‎ 01:24, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah. I'm guessing its along the same lines of monks (etc) in the real world (i.e. they refer to each other as "Brothers" but aren't actually related by blood). Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 17:15, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I believe that the gods then called eachother "brother" for simplicity's sake. It's another of those things that the populace of RuneScape are brought up to believe, but which isn't actually true. Like there are several references to the First Age being the Age when Saradomin, Zamorak and Guthix all made Gielinor together. But we know from quests like Meeting History that Guthix shaped Gielinor on his own, and of course, Zamorak is nowhere near a brother to the other two, because he was only made a god in the Second Age, when he killed Zaros. Besides, I'm not sure if the God Letters are even considered canon by Jagex any more. Asparagoose 23:31, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Peace?[edit source]

The article says that Saradomin is the god of Law, Order and Peace. But if he'd be peaceful he wouldn't have hunt the Zarosians down or faught in the God Wars. I think the word peace should be replaced with Purity.

Moros Lantea

Saradomin isn't the god of law, that's Armadyl. Saradomin is thought to be the god of order but he isn't (Check "Saradomin Is Evil at the bottom of the page). In my opinion, Guthix is the true god of order because he prevented humans from waging war on each other by creating the edicts of guthix, which meant that if any (Intelligent) race provoked a war he would destroy gielinor. The Troll war in burthorpe doesn't count because the trolls are thick as mud and can't tell apart their weapon from their mother.    Lord Nexius (talk) 07:34, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

Saradomin is the god of order, order is his goal because he knows, when he achieves order, he also achieves peace, Armadyl is the god of justice, not the god of law, huge difference, Guthix is the god of balance, not the god of order, he doesn't aim for order. ~~MrVer

arcanists[edit source]

who says that saradomin? could it not be just a random monk..?Third age robe top.png 3rd age farcaster Third age druidic robe top.png 03:53, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Look at his chest symbol. And there is a close ressemblance. ^^ Small leap emote icon.png « Gloria » One-leg balance emote icon.png 14:56, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Looks[edit source]

Doesn't Saradomin kind of look like Moses? Maybe it can be added to Trivia?

'Saradomin has a close appearance, similar to biblical hero Moses.' or something like that Astral rune.png Jhanely Soul rune.png 15:06, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

He also looks like confucius and is from the eastern lands.

I got to admit, Saradomin looks incredibly cool.! the coolest character image on runescape! Hes got glowing eyes!

Confucius is a real world person, and neither him or Mozus are pictural data. So we can't know if Sara looks like them. But... now we can say he looks a bit like some-one dressed in Gold, blue and shiney ancient Greek/Roman armour. . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 17:44, September 18, 2011 (UTC) (& pls sign).

saradomin's speices[edit source]

I don't think he is mahjarrat because mahjarrats are hellish creatures and saradomin is the opposite of that

Saradomin had/has Eastern Lands' followers?

(Could it be??)

From the Trivia of Karil: Karil's crossbow seems to be based off the real life Chu-ke nu, an ancient Chinese crossbow that used a rapid fire system. If this is true, this could also explain why Ak-Haranu sells the required bolt racks, as he is from the Eastern Lands and the Eastern Lands seem to be based on the ancient/medieval Far East. It might be concluded that at least Karil came from, or visited the Eastern Lands. Pointing to the idea that Saradomin might have (had) some followers in the Eastern Lands too.

douptful, remember it was sislike that gave him the crossbow, bow armour and everything and it's more probabal that sislike got them from the eastern lands than karil himself, as for saradomin, i sometimes wonder if his very human like paerance means he was human before he put on the elder crown. Whcih could explain for his favouritism and popularisty for and by humans and humanoids such as the icye.  Gotenks ss70 23:25, April 20, 2013 (UTC)

Saradominist Fundamentalism[edit source]

Since the link was censored from the article, I've decided to place it here instead:

Saradominist Wiki

It doesn't nescessary follow the Jagex canon, but tries to give a fundamentalist answer to some of the questions e.g.

  • the connection between Armadyl and Saradomin and
  • some members of the Order of Saradomin not accepting the Edicts of Guthix.

Yes, it draws some parallels to real-life religions, but by having it in another wiki, it doesn't interfere with the neutrality and objectivity of the official wiki. Simply both in-game and player saradominist might understand themselves different from the Jagex canon just as real-life scholars disagree with fundamentalist followers of real-life religions. Clearly saradominism has parrallels to christianity, and as such it is reasonable to parallel armadylism to judaism, since Armadyl is the God of Law, as judaism is centred on observing the Torah (divine Law).

1st: please sign ;) - (User:Gywerd, wasn't it?)
And 2nd: I agree with you that there are a lot of (light) symbolic parallels, but the more stronger parallels are (in my eyes) due to players' interpretations and added links etc. For example on that Wiki they talk about the Saradomin/Jas Trinity?? I mean... come-on! :-P
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Parellels Nations?[edit source]

What is Guthix was supposed to represent England because England created both America and Australia, Saradomin represented Australia and America represented zamorak because it wants power, wealth fame and fortune?

Sorry, what?? (Btw, pls sign) . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 16:44, August 1, 2011 (UTC)
Listen, I am sorry if you just got off the I Hate SOPA fan wagon, but that is pretty much over and you sound like an idiot.
JeffGC64 (talk) 04:54, September 18, 2012 (UTC)JeffGC64

Monks[edit source]

Most monk NPCs in the game have healing powers. I'd assume they get this power from Saradomin some how. There doesn't really seem to be any concrete info about how they are able to use those powers. Is there anything that suggests the origin of their healing power?

Saradomin is Power-Hungry.[edit source]

Saradomin seems to always claim that Zamorak is evil and that Saradomin is all for peace and what not. But in reality, Saradomin has no problem with fighting, and seems to try to conquer the religious beliefs of Gielinor. I mean, it's no secret that he has ill feelings toward Zaros, because during the God Wars he set out to destroy the rest of Zaros' empire. Saradomin has also demanded to Guthix that Zamorak's followers and influences should be destroyed. If anything, Saradomin plays it so that he a good- willed, peaceful god, but in reality, he is nothing but a power-hungry god that wants to conquer Gielinor's religious beliefs. He is obviously my least favourite god for these reasons, and I am shocked that many people haven't noticed this!

Am I the only one who sees this?

JeffGC64 (talk) 06:20, September 1, 2012 (UTC)JeffGC64

Nope. That plus the real-world application of his character makes him my least favourite, too. 11:04, September 2, 2012 (UTC)

Is what you are saying is that you don't like a certain religion(wink), because for me that isn't it at all, I am a Christian Catholic, it's just that Saradomin has such a terrible character for being depicted as the "good" god.

JeffGC64 (talk) 04:52, September 18, 2012 (UTC)JeffGC64

What he's saying is that Saradomin uses the view of "good" and "evil" soley for purposes of power, and not for actual morals. It does indeed remind me of a certain reiligion (wink) 01:54, March 13, 2013 (UTC)

How I view Saradomin, is pretty much, a God who is good, wishes for peace by order, Forces it, by donig evil. In short, he isn't all that mighty as other claims him to be.Kinglink15 (talk) 01:48, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

AGE[edit source]

Saradomin has always been considered a younger god than Guthix, however, in Guthix's flashback to his homeworld during 'The World Wakes' a Saradominist symbol can be seen on a platform. Could this mean that Saradomin was part of the God Wars that tore apart Guthix's homeworld? Meaning that he is an older god than Guthix himself. Or perhaps even that Saradomin killed and took the symbol of an older god? 13:12, March 5, 2013 (UTC)Shane

In the Guthixian Memories as part of the 2013 easter event, it is revealed that Saradomin did in fact participate in the God Wars that tore apart Guthix's homeworld. He was even the first (young) god to appear on that world. 00:55, March 13, 2013 (UTC) Shane

Saradomin Is Evil[edit source]

Don't you think it's weird that Saradomin seems super friendly and so do his followers, but whenever an enemy is mentioned all Saradomin does is bad-mouth them like he doesn't even care if they're listening to him at that very moment? Saradomin contributed to the destruction of the Naragi world because the Naragi chose not to follow him... All they did was "Yeah, sorry Saradomin, old buddy, but we're staying neutral. No hard feelings?" And he slaughtered and destroyed the entire city of Askroth just because of that. Doesn't that seem a little bit cruel? Forcing creatures or people to join your religion? Even Zamorak has never done something like that. Saradomin just wants to rule Gielinor and have people worship him (I'm not saying the other gods don't want that too but Saradomin is especially critical about that sort of thing).     Anyone agree with me?    Lord Nexius (talk) 07:26, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

Saradomin wants order - his ways to achieve that order aren't necessarily "good". In other words, I find him an evil hypocritical being. That being said, I like to believe that his lesser followers (priests, monks, random citizens, organisations) are not aware of this and simply see him as the God of Goodness (which some people actually claim too!), much like Juna gave her own interpretation to Guthix's way in the Dorgeshuun series. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 07:34, April 2, 2013 (UTC)
I don't understand how invading the Naragi realm and deestroying cities and just building fortresses over them will achieve order. Saradomin (Like you said) is an evil hypocritical being who i think (I'm not just saying this because I don't follow him) is a complete lunatic who likes being worshipped and having armies to start god wars. Isn't it ironic that the so called "God of Order, Pleasantry and Wisdom" started a God War and, a few thousand years later, participated in a second one? I'm glad guthix created his edicts to ban Saradomin from entering Gielinor, even if it banned all other major gods too. Lord Nexius (talk) 07:50, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

He didn't invade, he went into it, wished to be followed, they denied, and he attacked, he isn't evil, what he does is evil, as a Follower of Guthix, and it's chosen one (ik we all are, just making a voice.) we all know that he wants order. His way of order is his own way of peace, but he believes to achieve peace, there must be order, so he believes forcing it, is a way for peace. He showed that he cared for Guthix, as Guthix viewed for peace as he did, only disagreed on how Guthix wished for it. SO in over all, he is a good god, he follows order, but he forces it, and does evil, to achieve good. I use to follow Saradomin, until I saw that he didn't shape the world as claimed. I am glad I will do what Guthix wish, and we get to pick, because the first thing i will do, is rip that crown out of his head. Kinglink15 (talk) 01:43, April 19, 2013 (UTC)
In other words, he has good intentions but is a dick as it is the way to achieve his means. Gurluas (talk) 19:10, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Just added some concept art to the wiki page- check it out =p

Zkh20 (talk) 22:46, May 19, 2013 (UTC)Zkh20

Hey, thanks for the edit. Unfortunately it seems to be exclusive concept art given to a specific gaming news site, so we're not allowed to use it. ʞooɔ 22:52, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Saradomin Philosophy[edit source]

I understand his Emissary stated he is a "true"god, that is because she believes it for his paths he follows. But as Jagex stated, teh Emissaries(but Sliske) would give us more lore information about the gods, it is best for us to keep his alignment as it is. Kinglink15 (talk) 16:45, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

His examine text during The World Wakes: "The god of order and wisdom, above all else." /thread Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 16:53, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
That is from what "we" as the player, see in him, we seem him as that, that's why we were given a option in TWW on what we think he is. His Emissary is new lore and information given, as stated by Jagex. WE were said Seren is the Goddess of Nature, but soon by her Emissary, Peace and Growth. Over all, His Philosophy was updated, or maybe added. But again, the Examine Text is what the "player" sees him as. Examines text should be supported from the Philosophy, That's why it is kept there.Kinglink15 (talk) 16:57, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
Light isn't really a philosophy. Saradomin's emissary hasn't necessarily had direct contact with Saradomin, while the player actually has. Also, she may not necessarily be referring to his alignment by saying he's the god of the light. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 19:10, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
She said God of Light, and Order, that's 2 of them.Kinglink15 (talk) 20:10, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
And light can be a Light isn't really a philosophy, If it isn't, then why do we keep it on the other god that has it? Saradomin' philosophy is light and order. Plus she maybe did see him? as Stated in the BTS, a few of them; The Emissaries are sent by their gods to get players join them." She didn'r say he is teh god of the light she said  as I up my last 1 post. She said he is teh god OF (making it a philosophy Light (New one) and Order(still the same philosophy he had.)Kinglink15 (talk) 10:16, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
So... if we do not believe the Saradomin emissary's answer to be correct... should we change all the other pages back too? When you say that you think light isn't a philosophy.. you may also take it too literal. We know of a real world period in time that's called "The Enlightenment", idk if you're aware of this. Anyway, it's used to usually describe the period in which a lot of social, scientific and philosophic progress is made; it's not used to describe the Eddison light bulb or anything like that (which was alo later in time). I think you could use a similar metaphor here too. . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 12:03, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
Also see this:
All of the stories in the Book of the Gods are unlocked at the same time regardless of your current allegiance, so you don't have to change side to read them. Also, you can learn background and philosophy of the other gods by talking to their emissary, even if you haven't aligned with them.
— Mod Ollo in the Recent Game Update FAQ

You're welcome (sorry for the edit problem :( I never know how to fix it) ;) . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 12:42, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

Just because this woman fails to mention him being the god of wisdom doesn't mean he isn't. She's the only NPC in the ENTIRE GAME to mention his alignment(s) being Light and Order. How does this make the hundreds of other references to him being the god of order and wisdom, including HIS OWN -ING EXAMINE TEXT null and void? Fswe1 tried to compromise with you and list him as being the god of Order, Wisdom and Light, but for some reason you refused to accept his compromise and reverted it. Let me ask you: why? Why do you refuse to compromise and end this discussion? Honestly, the only answer I can come up with is you're DELIBERATELY instigating conflict.

#rage Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 15:04, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

Yes... I love conflict. As I explained on Fwse's talk pages: compromises don't always work. Let me quite then... because he seems to be unwilling to talk here (conspiracy theory: he wants conflict and tries to make it happen by refusing to talk here!!! And so do you, and all other people.. and I'm the only one normal. Yes, that. OR we don't mean to be mean, and it's best to just keep calm a bit). Quote: "Surely that's not a proper compromise. If I were to say Saradomin's race is Mahjarrat, and some-one else says it's human... then it wouldn't be a good idea to add both things together (like you did with is philosophy) and say he's like Moia: half-Mahjarrat, half-Human." As we have already established that the examination of things ingame is 'your character's perception' it's not reliable to use solely that for lore, jsut like with the god letters: if they line up with lore, AWESOME!! If they don't, they're wrong. Another quote: "During the Witch's House quest, there is a statue of Zamorak which when examined says "A depiction of the evil god Zamorak". Since this is your character's point of view, it is highly unlikely that this is a direct confirmation of Zamorak's morality." Hope this can convince you that:
  1. I don't want war, I want correctness on the wikia.
  2. I hold a point of view that is supported by other precedents.
Hope this settles it, so we can revert the page back to correctness in stead of an oddly forced and incorrect comprimise ;) . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 15:52, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
Saying examine texts are your character's point of view are silly. They are whatever the J-mod working that day decides it to be. I highly doubt they went out of their way to say Order and Wisdom in an attempt to trick the player thinking that they would reveal that he's the god of light later in the game. Tumeken is the god of light. Saradomin's fangirl is just holding him in a high standard. My 2 cents goes to Order & Wisdom. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 16:01, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
No offence, but you are beginning to get on my nerves now. If ONE NPC doesn't say a certain thing, it doesn't mean it is not true. "If they don't, they're wrong." Bullsh*t. First of all, everything lines up just fine. Second, there is no "universal lore". The game is scattered with lore. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 16:04, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
I still fail to see how one NPC not mentioning Saradomin is the god of wisdom automatically discredits every other source that claims he is. Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 16:07, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
Right... so there can't be gods that have similar views, because we already have a god of light, we can't have another? Is this really the official ruling? Examination info = lore. Not everything the emissary says is lore if it conflicts with the desert pantheon or some other piece of content? That means Zamorak and Amascut have to choose: who may claim the destruction? As well as Seren and Elidness on Growth, and probably again... Saradomin and Scabaras on wisdom. But yet, again: Zamorak and Zaros over Evil. These former-alignments and now-called philosophies are not a zero-sum game. . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 16:11, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
"Former alignments"? Alignments don't change. I'm fine with Saradomin being associated with light, but he's the god of order and wisdom as well. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 16:14, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
lol, sorry, maybe I should've been more clear: they used to be called alignments, now they're called philosophy. Ill rephrase what I said on your talk page, the FAQ states: "learn background and philosophy of the other gods by talking to their emissary", to me that sounds like: the emissaries will give the complete alignment/philosophy of their god. And in my long-term memory I hold the memory that Jagex said this even more strict/definitively in either a bts of lore livestream thingy. . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 16:28, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
Right, They did state is also in the BTS, where the Emissary were sent by their gods to recruit more people. Either way, we keep it as it is now Order, Wisdom, and Light. Until a Q&A come out and is asked. Kinglink15 (talk) 19:25, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

God teirs[edit source]

Why are these god tiers things all over? It was a simple sentence. You need more then a sentence by a single mod to put up something factual. Should these god tier things be removed untill more info and factual support comes out supporting "God tiers"

Nothins (talk) 20:51, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

AKAs[edit source]

What about the player saying: "You look like 'name' the snow imp."?? . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 17:04, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

Guthix labels Saradomin as the blue giant, which I believe should be an aka of his as it is likely that the majority of the Naragi called him this too. Italay90 (talk) 11:50, November 30, 2013 (UTC)
I agree with that, but what about mine?  . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 12:09, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Saradomin's possible death[edit source]

I heard from some Bandosians that Saradomin might die in an upcoming quest or world event. They also claim that whichever god lives from World Event 2, one saying Armadyl will fight him and kill him also siding with some gods like zaros. Are those claims true that Jagex is planning to have Saradomin die or did these people get missinformed.

Her name is SummerRanger last seen on W73.

If any of you are curious try asking Jagex if saradomin will die soon?

-  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) on  11:24, 8 January, 2014.
I wouldn't count on it that it's set it stone. Just speculation I think ;) . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 11:42, January 8, 2014 (UTC)
How could someone post such unfounded speculation on a wiki site? ...heard from some Bandosians, lol. Also, Armadyl killing Saradomin and allying with Zaros is perhaps the funniest part, it makes no sense because of three things:
1) Armadyl and Saradomin have always been close together, although not so much lately, they still are the two closests gods.
2) Saradomin is much, much stronger & more experienced than Armadyl, always has been, even more so lately after World Event 1. He also has a much larger following than Armadyl.
3) This entire amradille myabe ali wit zaroz???!!?!?! thing comes from a JMod quote that said something along the lines of Zaros would like having gods serving under him, it was not about an alliance, it was about Zaros being Zaros, and controlling another god like a slave.
And a bonus 4) Saradomin and Zamorak will probably never die, regardless of player decisions, they're the two most iconic gods. Sir Asgeir (talk) 12:00, January 8, 2014 (UTC)
Now I understand, those Bandosians are just jealous then. Thank you for the relief.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) on 12:12, January 8, 2014.
Do not worry friend, our god will never be defeated. RPing aside.. Mostly because each players Sixth Age storyline will look drastically different from the others, the decisions that we make during quests is what will ultimately shape the Sixth Age for us in future quests, rememeber the analogy Mod Osbourne made during a BTS video earlier this year, as to how the Sixth Age will work? Something along the lines of ALL PLAYERS sitting in the same boat, and having to decide between eachother which of the two islands to sail towards (World Events), but when we arrive on one of the islands, it's up to each INDIVIDUAL PLAYER to decide whom of the inhabitants will live, die, or be crowned king (Quests).