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Tower of Life with Ardougne cloak 1[edit source]

sub 2m/hour. Only requirement is Tower of Life quest. Tower of life, unicow slaying. Ardougne cloak 1 quick teleport. Unicorns horns at 3.2k each. At newbie efficiency, 50 unicorn horns gained per 5 minutes. That's a low end per run. Not including bank time & travel time, but negligible with cloak tele. 50*12 = ~600 horns per hour 600*3.2k=1,900,000 gp/hour. Very simple to do. Required inputs: cowhide. Not a wiki person, please do add this however you see fit wherever. I don't know protocols 10:31, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Potion making MMG overhaul[edit source]

I edited the Making toadflax potions with scroll of cleansing to also take portable wells into account. I'll get around to it eventually but have limited time, so if anyone else wants to port these changes to the other similar money making guides, you're welcome:

I got the numbers in the updated guide by making potions in-game for 15 minutes and extrapolating from there. Amount of items gained and used, XP, everything. So if have doubts, do your own measurements. I was in world 84 and had a noticable amount of latency, so the numbers may actually be smaller than the theoretical maximum. But they're based on real-world measurements nonetheless.

I also think it'd be a good idea to rename/move the pages to just "Making X potions" since it's not just the scroll of cleansing providing a benefit anymore and adding the portable well into the name would make it a bit of a mouthful. --Veikk0 16:16, November 7, 2017 (UTC)

Support combining[edit source]

Many of them are just duplicates with a different item, such as tanning leather, cleaning herbs, or killing a specific monster. I think a single page with a GEMW table at the bottom would be more beneficial than an individual page for each item. 67 kc vitalismanhattan'Ironman btw 16:19, November 7, 2017 (UTC)

I agree with this. The ones in particular I were looking at were the crafting combinations runes. While they all are the same process, only mud runes are viable and sell well (due to ground mud runes being a herblore component. Dragonbornlol99 (talk) 06:09, January 12, 2018 (UTC)

Updated with new information[edit source]

I've been messing around with casting/making spiders' egg scrolls. Although its super boring, casting egg spawn does make good money, and the eggs get bought up pretty quick. However, I can't get my egg spawn scrolls to sell. Lowered the price to try to sell them and no dice.

I've also been trying looting ogre coffins. No one is selling ogre keys. No one. So maybe someone can check that out as a money making method? Also, the guide talks about the Raurg bones being important. Yeah they're worth a lot on the GE, but I've had no luck selling them. Lastly, it should be mentioned that the coffin can be lockpicked

Tanning Hides requires level 2 crafting[edit source]

Like the title says, tanning requires level 2 crafting. Not sure if you guys want to edit it in. 08:35, December 23, 2017 (UTC)

Killing gargoyles[edit source]

I propose a money making guide guide for gargoyles.

Im in the process of documenting my gargoyle runs and using them as basis for a gargoyle money making guide. with my method i reach up to 2.4 million gold per hour.

Hasenearl (talk) 13:12, January 9, 2018 (UTC)

My math puts Salawa Akhs at just over 4m/h with the right set ups and factoring in gear and feathers. This page needs some serious updating.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2601:241:8703:9500:8830:FC67:1291:9B8D (talk) on 05:11, 2 February 2018.

killing ice troll with yak armour for balls of wool

Nuerion (talk) 22:02, September 21, 2018 (UTC) Nuerion

Farming Marigold[edit source]

  • You can do 4 marigolds every 20 min.
  • Gives you 49,000 per run and an effective profit of 588,000 assuming 5 min time. This is at ge of 12,336
  • Only requires level 2 farming

Rsoutside (talk) 19:34, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Expression error: Unexpected < operator.[edit source]

Getting a few of these errors and not sure how to go about helping out to fix this.

Thanks! 22:17, 7 January 2019 (UTC) Dgameman1

Hi, this was apparently because some items had their names changed with the Mining and Smithing update, and the guides were trying to look up the prices of items using the wrong names. Most of those guides will probably need more updating since drop tables were changed with the Mining and Smithing rework, but the errors should be gone now at least. Thanks for bringing it up! -Hourglass (2011 Halloween event) detail.png I Am Myself Talk III The Spark.png- 23:53, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Money making guide/Vorago[edit source]

I've made a money making run-down guide on Vorago, the prices/profit are relatively accurate from countless hours of Vorago kills/runs done by myself and peers whome I've asked for more accuracy.

I'd like it to be revised for publishing to the main "money making guide" page if at all possible for public use. Thanks :)

Wni (talk) 11:11, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Best MMG for F2p is mislabeled.[edit source]

The MMG for is titled as "Smelting and stringing amulet of power" but the guide is for making amulets of defense. I'm not sure which is more profitable, to be quite honest. Thank you.

DarkSeaFog (talk) 00:44, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Fixed it. :) Farming-icon.png Salix (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 10:24, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Crafting Diamond Necklaces[edit source]

I have an additional money making method which i'd like to submit to the page which is through making diamond necklaces. Thegifler (talk) 23:03, 18 March 2019 (UTC)TheGifler

1176 Diamond Necklaces Made P/H

At date of submission Costs:

Diamonds 705 x 1176 = 829,080 gp

Gold 892 x 1176 = 1,048,992 gp

Total Cost= 1,878,072 gp


Diamond Necklace 2,543 x 1176 = 2,990,568 gp

Gross Profit = 2,990,568 gp

Total Net Profit:

Gross Profit - Total Cost : 2,990,568 - 1,878,072 = 1,112,496 gp

(Net Profit per necklace = 946)

(Net Profit Per Hour = 1176 x 946 = 1,112,496 gp)

Exp P/H

1176 Necklaces P/H

Necklace Gives 90 xp Ea

1176 x 90 = 105,840 xp


Gp P/H = 1,112,496 gp

Xp P/H = 105,840 xp

Skill reqs

Crafting Level = 56

 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2a02:c7d:6a0a:d500:d11d:10c:430b:dabf (talk) on 23:29, 18 March 2019 (UTC).

Possible improvements to the Casting Ophidian Incubation page[edit source]

After making a fair amount of cockatrice eggs, I have noticed several improvements that could be made to the wiki page:

  • Currently, the page assumes 2100 eggs are created per hour, with around 45 seconds per inventory. This number is, from my experience, significantly better. The ophidian incubation move seems to be on a two tick delay between activations, resulting in a peak efficiency of 3000 eggs per hours. Naturally, this is unattainable in practice due to banking time, mislicks, and other factors. However, through the use of presets, I have been consistently able to go though a 26 egg inventory in 40 seconds, and I am confident a more precise, skilled player can consistently do it on only 35 seconds. However, the method requires one full summoning potion per inventory. With the 40 second figure and increased summoning potion consumption, 2340 cockatrice eggs can be created per hour, for a total profit of −2,948,764.24. To achieve this:
  1. Create a preset with one four dose summoning potion, 26 ophidian incubation scrolls, and 26 eggs.
  2. With a spirit cobra summoned, and its special move keybound, withdraw the preset, then convert the eggs in your inventory. Whenever the cobra drops below 30 special move points, drink a dose of the summoning potion. You can do this between special move activations to ensure maximum efficiency.
  3. Repeat step 2 until out of eggs, scrolls, and/or summoning potions. If you finish an inventory with a dose of the potion left and significantly more than 30 special move points, there is no need to drink the remaining dose, and potions banked this way can be decanted and sold back for a slight increase in profit.
  • It should be noted that, instead of selling the eggs directly to the Grand Exchange, one may also craft them further into summoning potions for additional profit and Herblore experience.
  • The sound of ophidian incubation can be heard by other players. Since the method only depends on the existence of a bank, it should be recommended that the player perform the method in a secluded location.

Xenomach (talk) 19:19, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Please do feel free to edit the page! You can find help on editing here. Should you wish to try out editing first, there's a sandbox available here (or you can create your own sandbox under your user page). If you do get stuck, you can ask others for help on the talk page for Money making guide/Casting ophidian incubation or in our Discord ^^ - Rawny (talk) 00:28, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Teak, Arctic Pine, Maple and Mahogany Pyre Logs - Money Making Method[edit source]

So i noticed that there was a Magic Pyre Log money making method... but there isn't for all the other pyre logs.... I did some time tests and calculated these results:

In order to achieve these results: 1: You must have your bank preset to 16 (Teak, Arctic, Maple, or Mahogany) Logs, and 12 (4) Sacred Oils 2: Your average time to bank, extract logs + oil and make 16 pyre logs but be 25 seconds

Given this you should easily be able to achieve 2304 pyre logs in an hour (Requiring 2304 Teak, Arctic, Maple, or Mahogany longs and 1728 (4) Sacred Oils)

each pyre log made grants 14 fire making experience as well: 32256 in an hour (considering 2304 logs are made)

The current Estimated profit/h from these methods are as follows:

Teak Pyre Logs: 5,800,000 GP + 32,000 Fire Making Experience

Arctic Pine Pyre Logs: 5,400,000 GP + 32,000 Fire Making Experience

Maple Pyre Logs: 4,800,000 GP + 32,000 Fire Making Experience

Mahogany Pyre Logs: 4,400,000 GP + 32,000 Fire Making Experience

Rawrsy (talk) 22:37, 13 April 2019 (UTC)Rawrsy

Nice ones - I added those to the guide (now located at Money making guide/Making pyre logs) -Hourglass (2011 Halloween event) detail.png I Am Myself Talk III The Spark.png- 05:33, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Awesome! Thank you, you may also consider modifying the numbers for magic pyre logs to 2304 (instead of 2500) to correspond with these methods Rawrsy (talk) 09:06, 14 April 2019 (UTC)Rawrsy

This method gives an error message when trying to use sacred oil that is bought from GE and will not let you make pyre logs with the oil. "This oil doesn't seem fresh. You should make your own." NahSatan (talk) 19:56, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

I can use oil I've bought, but I've heard other people bring this up too. Maybe the method requires (partial completion of) the Shades of Mort'ton quest? -Hourglass (2011 Halloween event) detail.png I Am Myself Talk III The Spark.png- 20:55, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Creating Sacred Oil - Money Making Method[edit source]

So there's a massive gap between the price of (4) olive oil [800 GP] and (4) Sacred Oil [10,300 GP]

So given you have 96 Summoning for the Pack yak, and have completed the quest *In Aid of the Myreque* in order to use the bank in Burgh de Rott, you can hop onto world 88 (The Shades of Mort'ton Minnigame World) and run between the bank and the Temple North of Morton and create Sacred Oil.

With My tests I was able to complete about 10 runs in an hour (6 Min a run) with 58 sacred Oil

This was done by killing groups of Lore Shades and repairing the temple during their re spawn

This can be rather intensive, especially if there are other players killing the shades, or if there aren't enough players to build the temple... but for the most part you can achieve about 580 (4) Sacred Oils an hour from doing this

This Means a Profit of around 5,500,000 GP

Additionally you can gain combat an crafting XP from killing the lore shades and rebuilding the temple

The Lore Shades also have the potential of dropping ghost hunter outfit pieces as well as the deplorable herb burner and cremation

Rawrsy (talk) 23:05, 13 April 2019 (UTC)Rawrsy

Hi, I wrote up a draft [[User:I Am Me/Sandbox/MMG/Sacred oil|over here]]. Does it look reasonable? -Hourglass (2011 Halloween event) detail.png I Am Myself Talk III The Spark.png- 05:33, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
Yea, that looks more reasonable, making around 6 trips an hour (10 runs), just re did the timing myself and it looks much more realistic ^^, also nice improvement with the teleport method ^^ Rawrsy (talk) 09:03, 14 April 2019 (UTC)Rawrsy
Didn't notice you'd responded, but the guide's (finally) up at Money making guide/Making sacred oil -Hourglass (2011 Halloween event) detail.png I Am Myself Talk III The Spark.png- 20:11, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Scentless Potions and Shadow Jadinko[edit source]

There's a pattern to doing shadow jadinkos that I've noticed (and many others have as well). Once you figure out the patterns, and utilize the same start point (I think it's the southwestern most spot but I have to go back to confirm which corner - the one closest to the deposit box). Do that burrow and there are I believe 4 possible paths. Again, once you learn them and can execute with that knowledge, it takes about 30 seconds per shadow jadinko. That leads to up to about 120 shadow jadinko tails per hour. If you grow Argway in the meantime when you are offline, and eventually accumulate enough of the herbs, you can then craft scentless potions. With some of the efficiency scrolls as well, that makes this even better. But once you've collected the 120 tails in an hour, you spend probably 5-10 minutes actually making the potions and you'll make over 4 mil+ with efficiency scrolls. You need 71 hunter for the jadinkos, 59 herblore for the potion, 57 construction to build the abandoned house in the habitat, and 54 farming for the red blossoms.

Claiger (talk) 15:39, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Nice suggestion, but there's already a guide for this at Money making guide/Making scentless potions. -Hourglass (2011 Halloween event) detail.png I Am Myself Talk III The Spark.png- 17:08, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

money making - making Portent of restoration X[edit source]

Portent of restoration X is a portent created with level 97 Divination using 60 incandescent energy and 1 rocktail or using 25 memory shards, yielding 23.4 Divination experience. When a player's life points drop below 50%, this item will automatically heal 1725 life points if it is in the player's inventory and if the player has at least level 93 Constitution

input Incandescent energy 1.png Incandescent energy 60 221 13,260

Rocktail.png Rocktail 1 1,487 1,487 Total price 14,747

sale value per =17312

i have found it is about 2.5-3 mil per hour givin price and click time changes

(mpt7) 4:26 5/1/2019  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2601:603:4c7f:fdd0:7936:fe1d:5465:1458 (talk) on 11:27, 1 May 2019 (UTC).

Hi, nice writeup. Does this look something like what you had in mind? -Hourglass (2011 Halloween event) detail.png I Am Myself Talk III The Spark.png- 17:28, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

sweet ty much looks great :)  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2601:603:4c7f:fdd0:7936:fe1d:5465:1458 (talk) on 10:54, 3 May 2019 (UTC).

Divine-O-Matic Incandescent Wisps[edit source]


I tried to see if this is already a thing, as I missed with the shadow jadinkos, but the below is the detail for money-making via divine charges.

Required: 101 Invention for Divine-o-matic, 95 Divination for Incandescent Energy

Recommended: 99 Divination, Elder Divination Outfit, 81 Summoning for Nightmare Muspah Pouch use, 90 Fletching for Superior Energy Gathering Scrimshaw, Legendary Enrichment Aura, Divination Skill Cape, Ethereal Connection perk active from the Memorial to Guthix, (Grace of the Elves for a little extra reward),

Process: Go to the incandescent wisps location (five options listed for how to get there on the page). With the aura, summon, and scrimshaw active, and the divine-o-matic equipped with 100 empty divine charges, start siphoning. With all of the above recommended items and moderately paying attention, you can fill approximately 60 charges per hour. This will vary depending on effort as well as what of the above you have active, which will impact your earnings. This also is affected by whether you purchase or craft your own empty divine charges.

With that in mind, the value of 60 divine charges fully charged is approximately 3.4m an hour.

Claiger (talk) 17:31, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

I created here for you [[Charging empty divine charges at incandescent wisps]]. Wondering if I should rename it idk. Bronze dagger.png: RS3 Inventory image of Bronze daggerElven CoreRSDragon dagger.png: RS3 Inventory image of Dragon dagger 22:16, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Moved it, as it was in the wrong place. Money making guide/Charging empty divine charges at incandescent wisps Small recharge gem.png AnselaJonla Slayer-icon.png 23:52, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

[Skilling Urns] Making Skilling Urns at Portable Crafters[edit source]


 Soft Clay                    x 2.000 [611ea x 2.000] = 1.222.000


1) Mud Rune                   x 1.000 [812ea x 1.000] = 812.000
2) Earth Rune                 x 1.000 [24ea  x 1.000] = 24.000
3) Fire Rune                  x 1.000 [100ea x 1.000] = 100.000
4) Nature Rune                x 1.000 [423ea x 1.000] = 423.000
5) Water Rune                 x 1.000 [26ea  x 1.000] = 100.000
6) Fire Rune                  x 1.000 [100ea x 1.000] = 100.000
7) Mind Rune                  x 1.000 [21ea  x 1.000] = 21.000
8) Earth Rune                 x 1.000 [24ea  x 1.000] = 24.000
9) Pure Essence               x 1.000 [21ea  x 1.000] = 21.000


1) Decorated Hunter Urn       x 1.000 [4.243 x 1,000] = 4.243.000
2) Decorated Mining Urn       x 1.000 [4.163 x 1.000] = 4.163.000
3) Decorated Cooking Urn      x 1.000 [4.062 x 1.000] = 4.062.000
4) Decorated Farming Urn      x 1.000 [4.033 x 1.000] = 4.033.000
5) Decorated Fishing Urn      x 1.000 [3.969 x 1.000] = 3.969.000
Decorated Smelting Urn        x 1.000 [3.699 x 1.000] = 3.699.000
7) Decorated Divination Urn   x 1.000 [3.866 x 1.000] = 3.866.000
8) Decorated Woodcutting Urn  x 1.000 [3.971 x 1.000] = 3.971.000
9) Decorated Runecrafting Urn x 1.000 [4.060 x 1.000] = 4.060.000


Decorated Hunter Urn          x 1.000 [4.243 x 1,000] = 4.243.000
Soft Clay                     x 2.000 [611   x 2.000] = 1.222.000
Mud Rune                      x 1.000 [812   x 1.000] = 812.000

Total Output: 4.243.000

Total Input: 2.034.000

Profit: 2.209.000

Decorated Mining Urn          x 1.000 [4.163 x 1.000] = 4.163.000
Soft Clay                     x 2.000 [611   x 2.000] = 1.222.000
Earth Rune                    x 1.000 [24    x 1.000] = 24.000

Total Output: 4.163.000

Total Input: 1.246.000

Profit: 2.917.000

Decorated Cooking Urn         x 1.000 [4.062 x 1.000] = 4.062.000
Soft Clay                     x 2.000 [611   x 2.000] = 1.222.000
Fire Rune                     x 1.000 [100   x 1.000] = 100.000

Total Output: 4.062.000

Total Input: 1.322.000

Profit: 2.740.000

Decorated Farming Urn         x 1.000 [4.033 x 1.000] = 4.033.000
Soft Clay                     x 2.000 [611   x 2.000] = 1.222.000
Nature Rune                   x 1.000 [423   x 1.000] = 423.000

Total Output: 4.033.000

Total Input: 1.645.000

Profit: 2.388.000

Decorated Fishing Urn         x 1.000 [3.969 x 1.000] = 3.969.000
Soft Clay                     x 2.000 [611   x 2.000] = 1.222.000
Water Rune                    x 1.000 [24ea  x 1.000] = 24.000

Total Output: 3.969.000

Total Input: 1.246.000

Profit: 2.723.000

Decorated Smelting Urn        x 1.000 [3.699 x 1.000] = 3.699.000
Soft Clay                     x 2.000 [611   x 2.000] = 1.222.000
Fire Rune                     x 1.000 [100   x 1.000] = 100.000

Total Output: 3.699.000

Total Input: 1.322.000

Profit: 2.377.000

Decorated Divination Urn      x 1.000 [3.866 x 1.000] = 3.866.000
Soft Clay                     x 2.000 [611   x 2.000] = 1.222.000
Mind Rune                     x 1.000 [21ea  x 1.000] = 21.000

Total Output: 3.866.000

Total Input: 1.243.000

Profit: 2.623.000

Decorated Woodcutting Urn     x 1.000 [3.971 x 1.000] = 3.971.000
Soft Clay                     x 2.000 [611   x 2.000] = 1.222.000
Earth Rune                    x 1.000 [24ea  x 1.000] = 24.000

Total Output: 3.971.000

Total Input: 1.246.000

Profit: 2.725.000

Decorated Runecrafting Urn    x 1.000 [4.060 x 1.000] = 4.060.000
Soft Clay                     x 2.000 [611   x 2.000] = 1.222.000
Pure Essence                  x 1.000 [21ea  x 1.000] = 21.000

Total Output: 4.060.000

Total Input: 1.243.000

Profit: 2.817.000

Mr Charos (talk) 07:25, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

A lot of the above values are incredibly off. You don't average 1,000 urns/hour; it's closer to 540-550 at a portable crafter. You also don't factor runes/essence into the cost since you don't add those yourself if you're selling urns. Additionally, it doesn't factor in the clay savings from using a crafter.

EXPHustler (talk) 03:30, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Can we get a filter to remove levels we dont have using a username submit box like on quests for example[edit source]

This would help a little bit but not sure how to implement or if its worth it 00:58, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

All money making guides that use Tipping bolts[edit source]

All of the money making guides on the site that use bolt tipping dont work. the fletching skill cape gives only works when you are making "bolts arrows or darts" Adding tips to them is seen as augmenting the ammo not making it so the skill cape will not work. On top of that it also says you can use a portable fletching to save tips this is not true as the only thing the fletcher saves is bolts (this can still save some money but not any amount that its worth doing for money)

For example i made 10k onyx bolts and ended up with 200 rune bolts left over and 10k onyx bolts made so this saved me the 200 rune bolts but thats not really that good the same goes for Fletching ascendri boltsMrInGameName (talk) 15:40, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Improvements to potions making guides[edit source]

Almost all the potion money making guides can be improved on quite a bit.

These were the guides i could Find that can be improved on

Making fellstalk potions with scroll of cleansing Making toadflax potions with scroll of cleansing Making dwarf weed potions with scroll of cleansing Making weapon poison++ Making kwuarm potions with scroll of cleansing

1st of all the Modified botanist's mask has a 5% chance of making duplicate potions where duplicate potions are banked automatically. This ability stacks with both the Portable well and the scroll of cleansing. However, unlike the portable well, this mask is capable of making extra combination potions

second of all there is the factory outfit it has a 10% chance of creating 4-dose potions instead of 3-dose. This effect works with most tradeable potions, including juju potions, as well as overloads and extreme potions. This effect stacks with the 20% chance of making 4 dose prayer renewal potions while wearing Morytania legs 4 and also stacks with the 20% chance of making 4 dose super antifire while wearing the Desert amulet 4.

Both of these outfits can be gotten form the flash powder factory minigame.

In total you get 1 a 5% chance to get 2 potions form the mask (you can also get 150 vials of water are worth 9,300) 2 a 10% chance of creating 4-dose potions instead of 3-dose and it can stack with Morytania legs 4 and Desert amulet 4. "but only for 2 potions that are not really part of guides"

On a final note if you use 5 parts of the factory outfit Assuming boots, legs, body , gloves, helm creating unfinished potions will give the same amount of experience as cleaning the relevant herb in addition to the 1 XP usually gained from creating an unfinished potion. Although if you do this well making money you will lose out on the botanist's mask has a 5% chance of making duplicate potions and lose money MrInGameName (talk) 16:02, 14 August 2019 (UTC)MrInGameName

Creating Lumbridge teleports[edit source]

Requirements[edit source]

Eagle Lectern.gif

Skills[edit source]

  1. 31 Magic
  2. 47 Construction
  3. 50(Reccommended) Construction

Items[edit source]

  1. Soft Clay
  2. Law Rune
  3. Elemental battlestaff(Not nessesary. Used in this method. Law Staff]] can be used for greater profits.)

Profits[edit source]

Training Experience[edit source]

40000 MagicExp p/hr

GP p/hr[edit source]

  • Input1 = Soft Clay
  • Input1num = 985 x 695gp = 684k gp
  • Input2 = Law Rune
  • Input2num = 985 x 391gp = 385k gp
  • Output1 = Lumbridge teleport
  • Output1num = 985 x 4500gp = 4432k gp
  • Profit = 3.4m gp if sold at my LOWEST recommended price
  • Location = PoH
  • Category = Combat, Skilling ,Processing
  • Members = Yes
  • Intensity = AFK

Instructions[edit source]

You will be creating Varrock tablets with your level 47 construction Eagle Lectern. Without a butler you will have to make bank runs of some kind so BoB would be good as well as a bank teleport. On the other hand ownership of a Demon Butler will make the process afk with no need for any additionals(every 90 seconds you will have to right click your butler, and press 1 key on your keyboard to fetch your soft clay.Not only with the butler do this but he will allow you to make an infinite number of tablets at a rate of 26 per 95 seconds(I'm accounting for 5 additional seconds to reload your inventory from your butler. This should give us an approximate 985 tablets per hour that we will be aiming to sell at between 4500-5800gp. Totaling 4.443m-5.713m gp per hour. Almost completely afk. LMT (talk) 11:24, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Can we load user account info?[edit source]

THe quest 'load user' stuff is really helpful - shows if you have the levels / quest-completion needed to take on a quest. Could a similar check be done for money making (e..g filter rows to stuff you can currently do?) 05:54, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

I don't see why not. Farming-icon.png Salix (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 10:18, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Boss MMG guides[edit source]

Whether input costs should be a factor or not? it can be deceiving to filter with highest profit. Can we create something similar to "ovlcost" depending on what tier of armour, weapon you're using? This wouldn't be a bad idea for scrimshaws either as they substantially bring down profit. Perhaps making the inventory setup a part of the MMG table, i believe it would be more visually appealing and in some cases would give more detail if it's not already detailed in the guide.Habibi (talk) 06:49, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Money Making[edit source]

I saw that there was a water trough right next to the combat academy bank that you can fill vials with. This could be a good money maker for new players starting to get into some money who don't want to kill chickens or kill bunnies.

BotCharlie (talk) 16:02, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Masterwork Smelting and Folding[edit source]

Currently the list only has entries for the final part of masterwork smithing, however, doing just this part relies on there being people who do the preceding steps the final part is also the one which has the most requirements to optimise thus I think there should also be entries for the smelting and folding processes, if nothing else because it may eventually increase in profitability to be worthwhile and so you can see what'd be the best use of your time while you wait for people to sell glorious barsArenuphis (talk) 19:25, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Add columns "input" and "output" to the table[edit source]

Sometime, finding the best money making method according to our money in-game can be hard by reading this table, especially when you have not enough money as "input". Having some activity with a profit of 10M an hour could be cool, but if it requires 190M input to have 200M output, it might be not affordable, compared to an activity with a profit of 2M an hour, but with 400k input and 2.4M output.

It could offer another point of view that some poor people in-game could be very interested in.

Thank you

Niconoe (talk) 23:35, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Support for this! Bit of a necro-thread, but are there any updates on the possibility for this?

At the very least having inputs, because there are a number of new players with 0 cash stacks in F2P, however the top money maker for F2P is tanning hides requiring 150m for a full hour.

Stooban (talk) 09:13, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Split f2p and p2p guides[edit source]

MMG is very huge and load a huge amount of data. I came with the idea that P2P activities are, in general, really more profitable than F2P activities, that's why it has few sense to merge both in the same table.

I think we should have MMG (F2P) and MMG (P2P), and remove the column "Member" to have less data to load for each page. The link into the left menu could redirect to a generic page where the user could choose F2P or P2P (like for "Skill Training" page), or, if you want to keep the numbers of clicks, you could dupe them, one for F2P and other for P2P.

What is your opinion on this?

Thank you, Regards,

Niconoe (talk) 23:41, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

I support this. This split would help a lot with this issue I've noticed a lot in the past (though I'm not sure if this issue is still common): when looking at f2p methods, oftentimes the guide will describe a maximum efficiency p2p version of that method, and the posted profit rate would be for this most efficient (p2p) method, but since the activity can be done on f2p (less efficiently) it will be marked f2p. AdSpace4Sale (talk) 00:00, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Money making[edit source]

Hi. I found a good way of making money via mining gems at Shilo Village. The rate is between 1.5-1.7. Gem bag is a big help to cut down on making trips to the bank.

2601:483:C300:FCC0:6472:209A:354C:B531 01:43, 10 March 2020 (UTC) miner

Misleading profit on killing Nightmares[edit source]

Currently the profit on killing Nightmares assumes 400 kills per hour on a slayer task. Off task, the profit margin drops by 4 million gp. Nightmare tasks aren't guaranteed at all times so the method of earning gp from Nightmares is misleading and quite frankly not something that can be maintained for several hours when compared to methods like runecrafting and killing bosses. Either the page title needs to be edited to add "on task" to the title, or the profit should be adjusted. As of now, there's just one line in the page, mentioning the drop in profit off-task. JasonGrace 19:14, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Archaeology[edit source]

Arch can make good money, as I'm sure people are aware, and articles may or may not be written as I speak. However, I wrote up a draft for Completing the Zarosian I Collection, as an example.

Thatonecoolkid99 (talk) 18:15, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Do you know how many sets a person can complete per hour? Karu (talk) 18:28, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Great question! Depends on RNG (rolling the current artefacts) and attention paid to the Time Wisp rotations. For me personally it varies wildly between one to two sets completed per hour, so for safety, in the guide, I wrote for one set per hour.

Thatonecoolkid99 (talk) 18:32, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Has anyone written out a guide for gathering materials from sites to be a very AFK money making method? I do this on my alt and can provide a guide, but not sure how to design it as the main site to use would change over time depending on the price of materials. I've thought about making a chart of each site and their average material price, and how much money/hr this would be. Would this be a good idea? (Zabian (talk) 18:10, 9 June 2021 (UTC))

I think excavating Material Caches might be a viable way to make money. Some of the Archaeology materials are fairly expensive, and some of the Material Caches are pretty easy to get to. For instance, the Invitation box is a fast teleport to the Empyrean Citadel where there is a set of Material caches for Armadylean yellow, which is pretty expensive on the GE. No idea how much money/hour this makes, though. Drauxling (talk) 23:55, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Incandescent energy with Divine conversion relic[edit source]

Hi! I have created a page on harvesting incandescent energy with the new Divine Conversion relic from archaeology. It is a bit redundant with the existing Incandescent energy page but I followed the example of RC (with Abyss/non-Abyss having their separate pages) as it has a considerable additional requirement (98 Archaeology). I currently have no idea how to add it to the main table though: can anyone teach me how to do it? 1ryb (talk) 02:30, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Money-making guides[edit source]

is it possible to add a sort function to the lists of money-making methods?  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2605:a601:ad85:3700:d059:d295:7475:7898 (talk) on 08:47, 11 August 2020 (UTC).

If you click the table headers, it will sort the table by that column. Lava hawk.png BlackHawk (Talk)    08:51, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Money making guide / Solak[edit source]

I've made the money making guide for Solak. Any feedback is welcome. I don't see it yet on the money-making guide page. --NotClose (talk) 20:04, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Added one more skilling method for smithing to make a decent profit.[edit source]

I see the Smithing elder rune + 5 items (Skilling) on the main page for money making guides, but I don't see it on the page dedicated to skilling money making guides. Excalibur (talk) 05:44, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

It's here :) Ruud10KRalph.png 05:51, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

I don't see it "Smithing elder rune + 5 items" Excalibur (talk) 12:30, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, I misunderstood. The page needed to be added to a category in order to make it appear on the skilling section of the MMG. For future reference, adding [[Category:MMG/Skilling]] will add a page to the skilling section of the MMG. You can also find a larger list of subcategories at [[Category:Money Making Guides]]. Ruud10KRalph.png 23:41, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Split methods between on-task and off-task, add a slayer section.[edit source]

I'm adding some ideas here that could improve this list, and I would not mind helping implement them, but I don't know if it's in the spirit of this page.

Maybe we can split guides in on-task and off-task.
Many of the high-profit non-boss combat guides require you to be on-task for a majority of the profit.
Some methods are not interesting off-task, because they don't drop anything valuable, while other methods are still nice and get a bonus when on-task.
Since we don't have control over which tasks we get consistently (max 1 each day through masks and Master slayer cape), these methods clutter up the list.
The category of the on-task methods could be changed to Slayer/High-mid-low instead of Combat/High-mid-low.
It might be even better to make an apart section like Recurring methods, because it's only relevant for choosing which slayer task you spend your daily task on, or checking whether a task is worth doing.

Killing capsarii
Expected profit on-task is 14M/h, off-task is 10.5M/h (3.5M/h is from ascension grips, which are dropped on task only).
This is an example of a method that is still profitable off-task.

Killing moss golems
Expected profit on-task is 11.7M/h, off-task is 2.3M/h (13.4M/h is from cinderbane gloves and ancient elven ritual shards, which drop 1/1500 on-task and 1/5000 off-task, so then it'd be 4M/h).
This is an example of a method that is not really interesting off-task.

Killing Edimmu with Ranged
This does not even work off-task, so maybe it should be renamed to Killing Edimmu with Ranged (On Task)?
This method lists 20M/h, which is technically correct, but it requires 450 kills, and Laniakae assigns between 170 and 265 per task.
Maybe this could be solved with the special slayer section, where it can list the expected profit and duration for an average (or min-max) task.

Killing nightmares
This also seems like a good solution: it is listed as the off-task profit (9.4M/H), and in the guide it also adds that on-task, the profit would be 17.5M.

Wicked wolf (talk) 11:24, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Glorious bars for money making[edit source]

I suggest adding glorious bar smithing to the money making guide. it can be quite time eating if mining most of the ore and smithing all the way to glorious. but the profit is quite high and you can semi afk it Zen-ter (talk) 20:34, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Screening soil[edit source]

The requirements should be 99 Archaeology (120 Recommended) and not 110+ Archaeology Recommended, since 99 is required to wear the elite outfit and get its -33% screening time and +7% screening success.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2600:1702:2530:60e0::1c (talk) on 02:37, 29 January 2021 (UTC).

It could be that the drops are significantly better at 110 vs. 99. I can't remember if level affects the rate of materials you can get. ɳex undique 02:42, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Screening soil[edit source]

Since i'm screening soil for the yak track i was wondering how much money it would be an hour so I checked the Wiki for it. The way it is explained in the wiki is with a waterfiend and porters. Since porters are 1k+ ea i was wondering if there could be an updated version using pack yak and the master archaeologist outfit. I think the gp/hour will be much more since u don't have to pay for the porters and get much more items with the outfit. Even though u need to bank since u're not using porters it might be 12M/hour or something. If it would be more money/hour is someone capable of making the calculations and making it a money making guide? Moneykorneel (talk) 12:08, 9 March 2021 (UTC) MoneyKorneel

Tabulation of similar methods[edit source]

Essentially the list is becoming heavily poluted by copy pasta of the same methods, can we have the methods tabulated like - . I would happily do this myself if someone can show me how/link me to where to learn. Articales that currently need this - rest of crafting, cleaning herbs ect Reloct (talk) 08:58, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Herb cleaning guides & herblore cape[edit source]

There are numerous guides for cleaning the many types of dirty herbs that are worth more clean than dirty. Most of these predate the addition of the instant-cleaning ability to the herblore cape. Currently many of these guides have the cape noted as being able to quickly clean the herbs as a recommendation, but a number of them have been created or updated to list a required level of 99 and removed the lower level that the herbs can be cleaned with.

How should these guides be handled? Should the old, slower, but more accessable method remain the primary one, with the cape listed as an option? Should the level 99 cape method replace the old? Or perhaps should the level 99 method form its own new page while the classic low level manual cleaning method remains on the current pages? HyperionXV (talk) 08:34, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

I suppose guide makers can make use of the tabber function to show both methods. Nayfaan (talk) 08:46, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

General guide for superheat[edit source]

Superheating runite is the only superheat guide that I'm aware of. However, maybe due to the mining rework, there are bars that are more profitable than runite (ie gold). I propose making a general superheat item page with various bars on it. Lamp (talk) 19:53, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

ROI - what does it mean?[edit source]

Um I can't find and explanation on the moneymaking page maybe I'm just stupid, it happens xd, but can you put in a reference of some sort for people like me. Thanks!

Hi! It means Return on Investment, normal search engines help on this front. Lamp (talk) 06:09, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
If you click on the word `ROI` (it should be highlighted blue), it should bring you to a wiki page that explains it. Nayfaan (talk) 08:44, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Value vs Quantity Demanded[edit source]

It seems to me that a lacking variable here is quantity demanded. Example: item sells on the grand exchange for 100k ea, but doesn't sell for months. What we need is some way to determine demand over time. So if I want to sell 5k of some commodity, I know that even though commodity 'a' sells for more than commodity 'b' I'll make more GP selling commodity 'b' because 5k units will sell much faster.

Maybe this already exists, but I'm missing it. Any suggestions?

Runehaver (talk) 04:31, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Crafting Dragonstone Necklaces[edit source]

Dragonstone necklaces are used to create sign of the porter VII so they are in constant demand.

The numbers per my test, all instant buy/sell pricing:

(1000) Dragonstone - 5,138,000 gp (1000) Gold Bar - 1,117,000 gp Total - 6,255,000 gp

(1000) Dragonstone Necklace - 8,755,785 gp

Total Profit - 2,500,785

You can create roughly 1680 dragonstone necklaces per hour, making an effective profit of 4,201,318 gp per hour along with 176,400 experience per hour in crafting.

Hopefully someone can put this on the MMG list so others can take advantage.

AJ AJ (talk) 17:30, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Buying Potions from Mazcab Emergency Merchant[edit source]

I recently went to Mazcab for the first time since the Tuska event (I haven't played much in the years since) and traded the Goebie Supplier at Otot. I only have enough reputation for the first price decrease on the emergency wares, but the shop offers four different potions that can be purchased for profit (according to GE prices) which restock seemingly every minute (I haven't timed it exactly). The Summoning potion (4) costs 9000 coins and has a GE price of 26080, the Super defence (4) costs 5850 coins and has a GE price of 16054, the Super magic potion (4) costs 10800 coins and has a GE price of 24747, and the Super ranging potion (4) costs 10800 coins and has a GE price of 28522. Buying all four potions costs 36450 coins, and the potions have a total GE value of 95403. Given the relatively fast restock rate, and the fact that the Goebie Supplier also functions as a banker, I believe purchasing these potions for resale could be a viable, low-intensity money-maker that can be done along with another bankstanding money-maker or skilling activity. This should remain viable unless or until the market prices of said potions change, or Jagex nerfs the restock rate of the potions. CarrotsPls (talk) 19:26, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Smithing adamant dart tips listed as non-members[edit source]

The page is protected, so I can't do anything about this, but smithing adamant dart tips is incorrectly listed as accessible to non-members in the table. Someone do something? :P Poiu45 (talk) 23:42, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out, however in this case it's intentional. As the guide mentions, non-members can smith adamant dart tips, assuming they have completed The Tourist Trap (which does require them to have been a member in the past). Thanks for keeping an eye out, though!
I also want to let you know that even if you can't edit the money making guide page itself, edits made on the individual guides' pages will automatically be reflected on the big list, so if you find similar issues, you may be able to fix them yourself by editing those pages. -Hourglass (2011 Halloween event) detail.png I Am Myself Talk III The Spark.png- 16:09, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Catching Whirligigs[edit source]

Decided to create a page for Catching Whirligigs. Does anyone have any input on what can be added / removed? Kraust (talk) 11:19, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Buckets of sand potential[edit source]

buckets of sand are currently selling for extremely cheap on GE(227) even cheaper than just a plain bucket(567). Ive set presets to speed up the emptying process, emptying about 3k in 15mins at 340 profit ea(in which i made more) comes to about 1m in profit, 4m for an hr at 12k buckets tho theres a 10k buy limit. this method is extremely tedious as it only takes 5-8 secs to clear and restock a inv.Andyruuw (talk) 01:56, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Clean up list[edit source]

Can we combine the lists for some bosses with enrage and instead list the hourly profit as a guide and in the guide have tabs for each of the unique methods because as it stands for every new boss with enrage/ group it will have multiple entries...

Blue Peahat (talk) 02:38, 6 October 2022 (UTC)Blue Peahat

Adjustments for New Tariff[edit source]

I believe a lot of these Money Making Guides need to be updated to take into account the new 2% sales tariff added on 9 January 2023. Actually, there probably needs to be a wiki-wide change to profit calculations on pretty much everything.

Drauxling (talk) 21:40, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

I agree. It has a pretty big effect on low ROI stuff. ArcticFire (talk) 10:37, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Telos in the MMG[edit source]

Hey all,

I noticed 999 claims are still on the MMG. Just wanted to kindly suggest for it to be removed. 999 claims is a very, very, very old meta for Telos and is not representative of what players do or should aim to be doing at the boss now. If someone is capable of doing 999s in this day and age, 1k+ will actually be easier than 999 because of shortened freedom timer; plus, with fonting no longer being something that is done with any sort of regularity, it doesn’t make sense to use that as justification for not climbing higher, either.

Thanks! Inferium 17:37, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Smithing rune spears[edit source]

Edit: Powerbursts of masterstroke are very useful here. You can maximize the number of spears you make by banking as soon as you finish your last dose of powerburst. Namely for the last dose, you save money by ensuring there are enough unfinished spears to benefit from the powerburst. If you have a smithing cape, you can also gain some additional progress by reheating your item after drinking a dose of powerburst. With powerbursts, you should expect an additional 45-50 spears created per hour (around an additional 1.5 - 1.75m).

Hello. I would like to suggest adding smithing rune spears as a money making guide. With Superheat Form on, it takes ~30.76 seconds to smith 1 rune spear, equating to ~117 spears smithed per hour, equating to ~4m worth of spears smithed per hour at the time of writing this article (GE price 34,114 gp). Without Superheat Form, you end up making ~500k less (34.57 seconds per spear).

Rune spears require rune bars and magic logs. If bought, 117 rune bars and 117 magic logs will cost ~758k (rune bars 686k, magic logs 71.8k), resulting in a profit of ~3.25m. The net profit can be maximized by being frugal by doing things like gathering your own materials (i.e. runite and luminite ores) and buying others (magic logs and luminite stone spirits are cheap relative to the profit being made).

My worn items include the blacksmith's set, grace of the elves to reduce Superheat Form prayer drain, pulse cores (I will have to see if higher smithing levels results in faster spears being smithed) which I have for bonus XP, smithing cape, enhanced excalibur for Wise perk, a grasping rune pouch for prayer bonus and enhanced hammer-tron with Fortune and Prosper perks, which can be very beneficial.

Preparation is very easy and the actual smithing is quite AFK. Prep: Have rune bars in metal bank, magic logs banked. Banking for 24-25 magic logs per trip, the inventory should consist of: skull sceptre for access to the barbarian anvil in Barbarian Village, ancient eleven ritual shard to restore prayer, and optionally an attuned crystal teleport seed to teleport right next to Ithell's bank chest.

Once magic logs are withdrawn, teleport into Barbarian Village (Outside option) and head to the anvil in the southernmost house. Prepare the rune spears into unfinished smithing items by right-clicking the forge and selecting rune spear. You can make this process slightly easier by zooming right into the forge, allowing it to occupy the entire game screen and giving you a large area to click. The space bar can be used to confirm creation of each rune spear.

Once your inventory is filled with unfinished smithing items, activate Superheat Form and click the anvil. Restore your prayer as needed. You will automatically smith the next spear after finishing smithing the previous one.

I hope this was informative. Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks.

Grimydream (talk) | "More Ale" 23:53, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Constructing Magic Frames[edit source]

New building at fort forinthry requires magic frames, tried to buy some myself on ge to skip making them but couldnt So instead, i made some, sold them, and it turns out the price they went for was about 105K each, and after talking to clanmates saw that some people were willing to pay 150K each for them No idea if this is good enough to be a guide, but with an inventory preset, i can use the bank chest, sawmill, and woodworking bench at the fort to make 2 per inventory with an extra refined magic plank left over in 74 seconds (from loading preset initially to loading it again) Can make roughly 90 per hour at that rate, so I suppose that'd be about 9M gp per hour at least until the price drops after everyone who was planning to upgrade their forts does it MeusArtis (talk) 20:36, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Anyone's welcome to create it as a guide... the only problem with sudden spikes in demand like that is that it's hard to incorporate the actual profit in the guide. The GE price won't instantly react to the surge, and the other option of forcing a manual "street price" for the output would be prone to manipulation and/or just plain falling out of date with rapid shifts in price. MrDew (talk)User:MrDew 21:45, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Killing Blood Nihil in Player Owned Dungeon[edit source]

I was wondering how viable it would be to add a guide like this, especially considering how I've found Necromancy to be quite powerful with close range AOE abilities (hence why I chose Blood Nihil despite their healing ability). An initial setup with three Blood Nihil in a small room and an action bar consisting of Spectral Scythe (Maxed out), Soul Strike, Soul Sap and Blood Siphon, coupled with Holy Aggroverloads and Powder of Penance, managed to get me about 130 kills with T95 weapons, T80 power armour, and minimal input in half an hour. There was some modification of attacks partially through, mostly just to see how much passive healing I would need (I found that Blood Siphon and SS is adequate).

My question is thus: What would I need to do to start work on a more presentable guide for the Wiki? I assume scaling the weaponry down to T90 would allow the guide to be more accessible, first of all. But that nuance aside, what suggestions would you guys give? Loka Ale (talk) 08:15, 23 August 2023 (UTC)