Talk:Knight Waves training ground

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Problems[edit source]

I was only able to hit a 3 on the first guy 0_0, tell me if anyone else got any better results with this. Thieving-icon.pngMomento Mori Real PainNot Champagne01:23, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

I killed many people using ddp++, abby whip, and full Dharok's. I was quite angry about the No Prayer rule imposed. I didn't bring enough food so i left. Guthix staff.pngSir Lienad1 (talk) Guthix's Book of Balance.png
I completed it with a ddp++. Sometimes, I found it hard to hit but most of the time I was able to quickly poison the enemy without taking damage. Dtm142 02:55, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Oh wow, I just used a d mace ><(only thing I had at the time), I'm too sleepy, I'll try the ddp thing tomorrow. Thieving-icon.pngMomento Mori Real PainNot Champagne04:53, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Used whip/scimmy combo with restore potion, super set and sharks. I seem to remember that the knights are weak to a particular attack style. When not hitting, i changed attack style until the attacks became effective. Not all weapons have all attack styles, so multiple weapon might help. --Miw 11:44, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
I find that certain styles are like that as well, but for me, after every attempt they change, so I always have to search for the new style per wave. Should we include this in the guide? Thieving-icon.pngMomento Mori Real PainNot Champagne20:23, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Changing respawn to Camelot[edit source]

As it's possible to respawn in Camelot (after finishing this), if a member (who has changed their respawn to Camelot) dies in F2P, do they go back to Lumby? I can't remember if that's what happens even if the member is supposed to respawn in Fally. Do F2P servers negate the alternative respawn locations? Mining TIRRIANGANT (TALK) 14:19, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

I'll check it out, do a suicide in the f2p wilderness >:). If I remember correctly, I respawned in Lumb. after I died, rather than Fal. in f2p. Thieving-icon.pngMomento Mori Real PainNot Champagne15:00, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Success?[edit source]

I got to Sir Kay on my first try, dragon chain, med helm and legs, rune def and whip/ddp++. Sir Kay and Sir Palomedes seem to have the highest defence, so getting them killed quickly is tricky--both were very resistant to whip. My combat stats are 70 att / 63 str / 70 def / 74 hp, so it should definitely be possible for any 90+ with the right equip. Endasil (Talk) @ 15:28, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

OK I just did it with those same stats, but poisoning and hiding for quite a bit of it. In particular, Kay and Palomedes I found really difficult. Lancelot doesn't have hugely high defence, so he's not ridiculously hard. Endasil (Talk) @ 16:54, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Need to find a way for some of the lower leveled players, 70-80 cbt (ie, my level :o) ). Realizing of course that it requires at least 65 defence in order to accomplish the quest, I figure we don't need to worry too much about players who are much lower than combat 60/65 or higher. Any good strategies yet for each of the Knights? Also, is this a "Safe" training place? Mining TIRRIANGANT (TALK) 17:09, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
If you're patient enough you really can just poison and hide the entire thing out. Some of the ones with higher def are really hard to poison though. I wonder if high-level spear with kp would work well... Endasil (Talk) @ 03:43, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
Ha! Lvl 81 cb lvl >< And yeah, it is safe. I can't get past Sir Lucan at the moment... Thieving-icon.pngMomento Mori Real PainNot Champagne10:20, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

I owned them all using guthans. but not for most ppl cuz they r poor. 01:46, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Good to know, but this is a talk page about the ARTICLE, not about your ownership of a set of armour worth a mere 6 million coins, not even a significant portion of the price of the cheapest godsword. 23:30, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I killed them with a corrupt vesta's longsword. It was so easy until I realized I could have saved money by using guthans. Disk of returning.png Blackhole252 Disk of returning.png

Woo! Got very lucky with lancelot! I had around 23 hp, he had around 5. He hit a 16 on me, So I had to eat.I thought it was the end since I had no food left. But I dealt the last blow!Santa hat.png Powers38 おはようヾ(´・ω・`) 01:22, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

I'd strongly recommend a dragon hally if you have one - it's easy enough that neither food nor potions should be necessary.

Are familiars allowed?[edit source]

Such as the Spirit terrorbird so that I can carry more Monkfish?--Quest point hood.png Bigm2793Talk Quest point cape.png 15:15, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, no. Star Find 04:54, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

My own experience with this[edit source]

The article currently says that you should have at least 90 combat to attempt this, but if I recall correctly, I completed this miniquest in the 80s. I did not use poison and I did not use an abyssal whip or a halberd. I believe I brought in a dragon longsword and a dragon battleaxe, using the axe when I needed to crush and the sword otherwise. I used potions, of course, and brought in a lot of food. All I did was melee them face-to-face, exploit their weaknesses, and restore my stats/heal whenever necessary. I beat them. Someone may wish to revise the guide to include the fact that the dragon dagger and/or halberd are not required to beat this.

I also just want to eliminate bias. --Andorin (Talk) (Contribs) 08:38, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Safespot[edit source]

We need some confirmation as to whether the Safespot is available or not. The image showing the "halberd+attack sideways" technique was taken quite recently and there was nothing in the patch notes mentioning the safespot being removed. Black cavalier.png Zenihdrol Tribal top (blue).png 23:04, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

I can confirm this, not with a halberd. I tried trapping them at the dummies but JaGeX seems to have added an update which allowed monsters to get around obstacles more easily when moving diagonally.--Moneypony 04:49, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Training[edit source]

This seems like good training, I was getting through 3 or 4 with no pots or food, that's a couple kXP or so. Die, click the door and you are off again, full stats and special bar. Even if you don't futz with me lee styles you can use dds special etc. Rich Farmbrough, 05:11 27 February 2010 (GMT).

Glitch (outdated I believe)[edit source]

When this quest was first released, there was a glitch where if you attacked them before they attacked you, they would not attack you. Many people including myself beat it with much lower stats than one would expect the minimum to be. Just thought Id point it out.

melee only?[edit source]

You can only you melee to fight them, right? So... Bursting them is not allowed? . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 09:45, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, no Bursting (My own favourite), But I'm wondering is a Staff of Light Special Attack could be used, and whether it's 50% reduction to melee damage would help more than, say a DDP Spec...

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7:34 PM (Eastern Australia Standard Time) July 18, 2011

Exaclibur problems?[edit source]

So I just undid a revision on the main page that put the following text in the 'See also' heading.

if you use an excalibur of any kind when entering the training room do not use its special attack for it will drain all your combat stats by -50

Is there any validity to this when using Excalibur, or is this is an anonymous trolling user?

TrentR42 02:12, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

Can you still choose Camelot respawn point?[edit source]

I finished the Knight's Wave a few days ago, and I talked to Merlin, King Arthur and all the knights. None of them could change my respawn point.

I would like someone else to confirm this before changing the main article. 19:36, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

I found ou that when you die with more than 3 items, you get a choice of respawn points, including Camelot. 20:48, March 19, 2013 (UTC)