Talk:Hill giant/Charm log

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this drop log cannot be trusted since multiple editors automatically revert results that show that it is inaccurate..[edit source]

the questionable addititons should be set aside not deleted and the set aside items should be commented on

the reverts that the questionable editors did also deleted my observation that i did not recieve any dammage during the half century... this observation, if it leads to a new rule on charms, will change the way we should record drops and thus get a better estimate of what our drops will be


i also suspect that there is a problem with the drop list of chests since court summons are listed as very rare but i'm hitting about 3% on them but that is a different talk page

Qaz Wiz 15:00, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

So I'm a "questionable editor" now, am I? Concerned Ronan Talk 15:06, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Qaz Wiz is actually correct. I'm thoroughly disgusted with charm logs. Hill giants have different charm drop rates based on their location and level. As such, this charm log is complete and utter crap. Suppa chuppa Talk 15:08, August 24, 2011 (UTC)
The location was the steel key ring accessed hill giants near and below GE.... hadnt thought that location would change drop but it is a possibility, more likely level changes drop! (but there is one place that proves drop can change according to respawn point among many otherwise same monsters) (i believe it is called ?????'s maze a building that you need a key to enter and need a key drop to get to the next floor up.) FYI: That would be Melzar's Maze. Ronan Talk 16:54, August 24, 2011 (UTC)
as i mentioned i didn't get hit once but didn't get any charms either... the list percentage says i should get 7, (in the 50) got disgusted because after 40 didnt get one... so i finished my half century so i could post then quit and posted only to have two people that dont know how to use statistics delete my observations.... 'who they are' I'm not stupid enough to name but i cannot stop either of them from braging about their faults Qaz Wiz 16:34, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

I sincerely hope that you are not attempting to turn this into a personal vendetta. It will not be appreciated. I have no idea what you mean by implying that myself and another trusted, responsible user were "bragging about our faults", however I would advise you not to cross the line that distinguishes facts and insults. Our knowledge and usage of statistics is not in question here, as your submission appeared utterly inaccurate. I was simply not aware, nor do I think many editors are, that certain monster's charm drop rates differ by location and level. You seem to be bearing quite a grudge against us simply because we deemed your log implausible, and further ill-veiled insults will not be tolerated. If you have a legitmate issue with me, please do let me know. Thanks, Ronan Talk 16:54, August 24, 2011 (UTC)


discuss splitting log according to Level and or Location[edit source]

maybe even doing a respawn location check of an area chosen by community.... to test if respawn location changes the drops

Qaz Wiz 16:38, August 24, 2011 (UTC)