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I need help![edit source]

I just bought a Dwarf Cannon from the Grand Exchange in a set. I completed the quest. How do you set it up? If you know, put it below in the space. I need help. Thanks.

Right click base, click set up. Use cannon balls on the cannon and then click fire or just click fire and it will load it up automatically and start shooting. Every 30 cballs you must refill it.
Can you leave a Dwarf Multicannon to fend on its own?___________________________________________________________________________________

Yes, but it will run out of ammunition very quickly, plus it will decay after a set time. A free replacement can be obtained from Nulodion if this occurs.

can you set cannons up in pest control?--Andy mci 20:40, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

No. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot
Can anyone confirm that cannons aren't allowed in the slayer caves cuz I'm pretty sure I saw someone using a cannon in the caves awhile ago...{{Signatures/Total Rune}}00:23, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
They can be used in the desert slayer dungeon. Spray Guard 10:50, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Can this be used in the wilderness? --Wiiwantxbox 21:37, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

It may be, but I doubt it is. Another possibility is that you may use it in early wildy, but not deep. But it would make PK'ing way too easy and I doubt you can.

Cannons CAN be used in the wilderness, they will just not fire at players.

You should really change the 400 charges thing. I just had around 3.5k runs until the decay warning came up.

Yes, the 400 comes from the Runescape guide, but the number of shots before the warning seems to be inconsistent.

I just tested the charges on my cannon, I got through approximately 1,100 cannon balls before my cannon gave me the decay warning. You can still use it until it fully decays and disappears, then you can get a new cannon free from Nulodion between Falador and Varrock. You can also get your cannon replaced free if you forgot about it and logout before picking it up. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.67.36.236 (talk) on 05:07, 29 June 2011 (UTC).

It's based on time, not the amount of ammo used. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 18:36, June 29, 2011 (UTC)
approx 25 mins left on the ground whiles functioning.

?[edit source]

how do you open up the cannon if its just a dwarf cannon set it says you can use it and drop it but how do u open it to get the pieces? To open all sets, right click on a person in the grand exchange and setlect "sets." You will get an interface showing a bunch of different armour. From there, click the "exchange" option on the cannon set.Mjc3 18:21, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Must you do the quest to use the cannon? I was under the impression that you only needed the quest to buy it from the npc. What if u buy from a fellow player?

yes you need to do the quest to use the cannon.

the dwarf multi-cannon has its own techniques so yes you will need to complete the quest to obtain this spectacular weapon but you also have to be members.

Does the cannon's damage depend at all on range level?

Yes, you do not need a certain level to use it but, it will hit high numbers more often if you are a high level.71.122.245.55 22:11, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

The Grand Exchange price is currently 530k. to set up a cannon put down the cannon base then but down the cannon legs, then the barrels, then the furnace

If i set up the cannon at green dragons and died while it was on the ground what happens i really need to know plz


After you do the quest and are able to use the cannon, if you end up dying while it is set up you can get it replaced for free because it has a 'warranty' on it. If it is set up and you log out same thing, Just talk to Nulodian and he will replace it. Your old one will dissapear in like 10 minutes and nobady else can loot it.

Your cannon stays in the spot it is in, and even fires at the enemies while it has ammo, but if you do not pick it up soon enough (within 25 minutes of setting it up, usually no matter how many shots are fired), it will decay and the cannon is lost forever (of course, you could always go to ice mountain or the grand exchange to get another one).


Than your cannon just stays there , and if it is away (that can) than you just can get it bij nulodeon for free ;)

Logging out[edit source]

I was wondering whether if you log out with the cannon set up, does it go to Nulodian? Or is it lost? (I'm assuming it doesn't automatically appear again when you log in)

As an avid Slayer with poor internet connection, this information would be really useful for me to know. --Alex1908 18:56, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

If you log out or the cannon decays, you can get it back from Nulodian. --nekobawt 23:04, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Anyone know where the best place to use this cannon and still make money if you but the cannonballs would really like to know as i need to lvl my range and am quite poor so would like to make money not lose

The best place to use the cannon depends on what monster you want to use it on. Lots of different monsters have decent cannon spots. --nekobawt 23:04, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

You can log out and the cannon will be back at the place you left it or at the dwarves where you can buy them, there used to be a glitch that if you logged out it could be stolen but now that is fixed.

God Wars Dungeon[edit source]

Can this be used safely in the God Wars dungeon, say on the bodyguards for each general? I know it says the actual generals will destroy it, but you could still make a nice profit off the bodyguards. Anyone tried this? 24.129.79.94 03:05, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Cannons cannot be used in the boss rooms, and, if you can set one up anywhere else, it would be pretty suicidal. Alex1908 22:59, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Whats the max hit? Apollo81001 22:19, 5 January 2009 (UTC) Hey i brought my cannon for a good deal because its worth it.I practice on lvl 42 moss giants while im using my dharoks greataxe they both hit major 30's

What effects the max hit and the accuracy of the cannon?[edit source]

My ranged is 47, should I buy a cannon? If yes, plz say what I should train on for exp. Ruined dragon armour lumpBlackhole252Ruined dragon armour shardtalkRuined dragon armour slice You should try training on anything that drops good stuff i use my cannon on slayer and on barrows i make a lot of money this way and yes buy a cannon

One thing that seems to affect the effectiveness of a cannon is the effectiveness of the weapon you are weilding. I used a cannon while weilding a bronze axe and it hardly hit more than about 3. I wielded a whip and it went back to normal. O3 Depleter 13:59, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

So ranged stat bonusses do not really affect the effectiveness of the cannon itself? Just the accuracy of any weapon you're holding?? . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 10:10, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

Think it's either the accuracy of what you're wielding, or just the highest accuracy stat of your current equipment. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 12:50, July 19, 2011 (UTC)
So it could be magic accuracy, crush accuracy, ranged accuracy... it all doesn't matter. as long as it is accuracy? . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 17:44, July 19, 2011 (UTC)
Hard to test, but I think so. Not sure which of the two systems, but not likely it's always ranged, cause even in full melee the cannon hits decently. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 22:58, July 19, 2011 (UTC)
Owh, this is very interesting, thanks! . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 23:29, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

Factual correction[edit source]

It is possible to set up the Dwarf Multi-Cannon in the Wizard's Tower. If you want I can provide a screenie or animated gif for use/proof.

Yes it is possible I tryed it and if not made already correct this error. Also remember to sign your post with four tilde (~) in any talk page. Thanks - Slayer helmet.png Hmanballer talk | edit count | sign | HS Fire cape.png 03:10, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Multiple Cannons[edit source]

Are we allowed to use more than 1 cannon?

The limit is 1 cannon per person. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 08:34, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I think you can own as many as you like, but you can only setup one at a time. Given that most times you loose it you can get it back for free, I don't see that there is any point in owning more than one. O3 Depleter 14:01, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

You probably won't get a free new one if you still own a cannon either. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 18:35, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Decay[edit source]

I think cannon decay is on a timer, and not based on number of shots, because i got the warning message when it wasn't firing. Maybe there is a minimum number of shots for it to decay, or to start the timer or something. --98.238.208.25 15:46, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, the cannon's decay is based on a timer, it gives you a warning message in 20 minutes if it is on the ground and not picked up, and it will decay in 25. However, the decay is a one time thing, and it can easily be fixed by picking up the cannon and setting it back up. Also, Jagex must have updated this, because last time I checked, you couldn't get the cannon back if it decayed.

You have always been able to get your cannon back. The first time I used one was in 2006 I believe and it decayed and I logged out plenty and I could always get it back.

Quick Question[edit source]

By using the cannon, can you gain attack exp? -White partyhat.png Chasingu 19:47, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

I think it only gives you Ranged xp. Miasmic Blitz icon.png Hapi007 Talk! Sign! . 19:49, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Oh ok. Thanks. Otherwise I would have bought it and it would have been a waste. -White partyhat.png Chasingu 19:52, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it is a timer. You get the warning message after 20mins and then it decays 5 mins after that. When you get the warning message, if you pick up then cannon then re-assemble it the timer resets. You have a point,it depends on the state of your cannon. for me it decays after like 4k cannonballs. If by chance it does decay you can get it back from a guy whos name beggins with n Nulodeon on ice Mountain.

Update to cannon in 2008[edit source]

"However, in August 2008, an update was made[source needed] to the dwarf multicannon that expanded the target regions"- This was not an announced update so it won't be found in the archives. Does anyone remember what announced update it came with though? (Might actually have been late July, I can't remember.)

I read through every update post in August 2008, and I didn't find it. I'll look through all of 2008, however it will not be found in the Patch Notes archive, since those only started being archived in January 2009. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 03:07, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Importance of putting the cannon link on pages where is cannot be taken.[edit source]

Hey,

I bought a cannon and used it. Thought I might take it to slayer tower and searched the page for cannon. It had no reference, so I took it. This was annoying to find I couldn't use it. Shouldn't it be displayed on the page in which it cant be used?

I agree, dude. It seems the page doesn't include a full list of locations where u can't take it. The list should be expanded (if possible). And yes, the pages for locations where u can't take it should display that either with a template or just a small trivia reference. Jampolo 23:05, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

If you want to know where you can or can't use the cannon, it would make more sense to check the cannon's page, or if it's a large list a subpage that is linked to from the cannon's page. Location pages might have it in their trivia, but I would expect the cannon page to be more reliable and more convenient. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 16:28, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Kill stealing[edit source]

Is it just me or are you guys getting tired if training somewhere, and some whiny little runt puts up a cannon..it makes everyone else have to world hop - istnick

Sounds like you're the one whining, it's perfectly fair to use it. 212.183.140.58 11:35, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

it i sa little annoying when a cannon would be put up in a multi combat zone and just kills everything leaveing nothing behind "istnick" has a point. Voruse 14:38, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

You have to weigh in the following factors:
  • There are many locations where cannons can't be used, most slayer dungeons for obvious reasons.
  • Almost everyone can use a cannon if they wanted to (just requires one small quest).
  • Cannons are usually more expensive than conventional methods.
Actually, the wiki is not the place to discuss such matters.
Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 16:33, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Cannon for slayer[edit source]

This would probably need a whole separate page, but if someone could please compile a list/chart of all the slayer tasks and say whether there are any creatures of each task which can be attacked by cannon, and if so where to find some. I have not slayed in a while as i wish to keep my combat relatively low, but am planning on starting to slay again. When i do, I would like to use cannon on as manyh tasks as possible. If such a list already exists somewhere I'd appreciate a link to it here, Thanks.

Drops?[edit source]

Do Cannons pickup drop automatically, or do you have to go after them? ~Enlightment~ ~Fighting Vandalism and Watching Unregistereds~ 00:39, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

You have to manually pick up the drops yourself. Unicorn horn dust.png Evil Yanks talk 00:41, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
Okay, thanks alot, and thanks for the rapid response :) ~Enlightment~ ~Fighting Vandalism and Watching Unregistereds~ 00:43, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
You might want to consider the Bonecrusher and Herbicide, they work well with the cannon. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 16:35, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Lost half my Dwarf cannon[edit source]

I was being killed and my Cannon only got half set up so now i have half a Cannon

will the guy replace my half the cannon i lost?

Iwazhere 00:14, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

No he only replaces your cannon if it has degraded. Defence cape (t).png Rabbit FearArmadyl godsword.png 23:33, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

Or he replaces it if it is somehow stolen while it is being set up, but this was fixed with the new cannon update because now there is an auto setup that you cant steal from.

Does the Full Slayer Helm with the 15% Bonus Improve Cannon Accuracy???[edit source]

Does the Full Slayer Helm with the 15% Bonus Improve Cannon Accuracy??? How do you know this information - Did it come from a Jagex Mod, did you test it, did you read it somewhere, etc.?

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ge cannon[edit source]

why is buying the cannon on the ge cheaper. are there advantages from buying from the dwarf?

A cannon in the GE is cheaper because of the low price when sold to a shop, players wanting to sell their cannon are better off doing so through the GE even with the lower prices. Also, there are no advantages or disadvantages to buying through the GE, you will get your cannon back just the same if it disintegrates. DiffusedDawn 14:08, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
Jagex does not change the price of items in the GE. The prices of items, and the fluctuations of prices, are based on supply and demand. If everyone sells an item at once and not everyone buys it in return, the price for it will drop down. If a lot of people buy but not sell, the price will go up, That's why merch clans work. Therefore, people buy the cannon on ice mountain and they can't sell it back to him easily, so they simply sell it at the GE when they are done. Because people buy it and decide it's not worth it, a lot of people sell it at the GE.
It would make more sense to just let it degrade when you're done though. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 16:37, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Combat XP[edit source]

I have a skill pure, and I want to buy a Cannon. However, apparently it gives you small amounts of Ranged xp. But I've heard of level 3's using them, (and staying level 3) for things such as getting slayer levels. So, what's up, exactly?Red dragon face.png YodimonTalk to meh! Coins 10000.png 01:44, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

You do get Ranged xp from using the cannon at 0.2 xp per damage so I don't know how one would be able to stay level 3 while using one. However it is used by pures to gain Ranged xp without gaining constitution xp and there for one would be able to stay a relatively low level with it (But not level 3). TechLord 22:04, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
Probably your only bet for getting slayer levels is exp lamps, or food/ring of recoil against slayer task monsters, both of which will take forever to level.
You could also use penguins, soul wars, pest control or conquest, but I don't see any point in staying combat level 3. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 18:39, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Void Knight Armour?[edit source]

Does the damage bonus from void knight armour apply to the dwarf cannon since it is considered a range weapon?

no the max hit is still 300 i really have no clue why but i use void and a cannon and it never has exceded 300 damage :D

Getting the cannon back...[edit source]

I just bought the Dwarf multicannon from the GE. I will be using it on the Black Demon (The Grand Tree quest). The problem is, after you kill the demon the cannon will disappear: I will lose it. So I was reading a bit and I read I can have it back from Nulodion. The question IS: Seeing I bought it from the G.E., can I get it back with Nulodion? How many times can I get it back for free? And if possible tell me how many cannonballs I should use against a level 172 demon foe. --IRlyLol'd 19:07, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

You get it back no matter where you bought it, as long as you had it set-up fully when it disappeared. There is no limit to the amount of times. The amount of cannonballs is hard to tell. It depends on your accuracy (of the weapon you're wielding, even if it's melee or magic), the demon's defence and on luck. You could bring silverlight or darklight if you have it to lower the defence. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 16:41, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Boosts[edit source]

Does having boosting prayers on affect it? Like activating Sharp Eye, Hawk Eye, Eagle Eye, Rigour?


And how about potions? Ranging Potions? Or perhaps even Attack Potions? 130.89.160.79 02:57, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

I have tested using eagle eye(prayer) on and it only increased the damage bonus i was hitting,but it did not increase the damage of my canon orits accuracy.but ranging potions increase the accuracy of your cannon.

Can i get a bigger hopper for my cannon?[edit source]

I'm getting tired of reloading it every minute, is there a hopper that goes above 30 cannon balls per load?

No. 30 is it.--Degenret01 00:54, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Repairs...[edit source]

This whole notion of repairing decayed cannons...is that only an Artisan Workshop feature? Ancient talisman.png Flaysian Ancient Book.png 21:31, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

I believe you can just get a new one for free after it decays, and just picking it up and setting it again resets the decay timer.
Also, funny coincidence to see you here, you should put that signature in a template so you can sign with ~~~~. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 06:20, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Can I use my cannon on Black Knights?[edit source]

I am trying to use a Dwarf Cannon for a video on Youtube. I seem to not be able to plant my cannon and I am wondering if this is a glitch?  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 109.153.162.239 (talk) on 17:33, 18 March 2011 (UTC).

Could you please make an image of it and then upload it to http://imageshack.us to make the problem clearer for me? Then I might be able to help you. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 17:36, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Ok its up.


My name is Patosa. Please look. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 109.153.162.239 (talk) on 18:00, 18 March 2011 (UTC).

Please post the url to it here, so I can see it. (that site has so many uploads it's too hard to find it without url) JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 18:01, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

http://img684.imageshack.us/i/deleee.png/ Hope you can help. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 109.153.162.239 (talk) on 18:31, 18 March 2011.

The message seems pretty much self-explaining. You could try setting it up further north since that is further away from the dwarves. Or if it's just about killing black knights and not so much about the location than you should try their headquarters in the tunnels below Falador. My cannon helped me get my current rank in the White Knight organisation there.
Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 18:41, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Artisans Workshop Upgrade Question[edit source]

If I spend 50% respect to upgrade my dwarf cannon to a gold one, when it is destroyed do I get the old version back from Nulodian or my golden version? Guthix cloak.pngInvincibility |Talk| |Edit Count| Magic.png 18:25, May 7, 2011 (UTC)


You'll get the original version back from Nulodion when you claim it back. Then you simply take it back to the workshop and go through the dialogue once or twice to restore it to its ostentatious glory. Remember that picking your cannon up once every 20 minutes and replacing it resets the timer.

2 animated images, needed or not?[edit source]

Do we need an image of a loaded cannon if the image of setting it up already includes all it shows?
Heres the options: Remove both, Remove setup, Remove loaded, Remove neither.

  • Remove loaded — As nominator. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 15:28, June 27, 2011 (UTC)
  • Remove loaded Teri (: 21:05, August 13, 2011 (UTC) (sorry, I don't often use this so oops if I got it wrong...)

cannon also crush?[edit source]

I know that (the) cannons are ranged weapons. But some monsters that are weak are against ranged and/or stab. Since arrows can pierce, that seems logical. So I was wondering, cannon balls don't really seem sharp, rather blunt. Might this make monsters that are weak vs crush also weak vs cannon balls? Seems like a valid assumption, right? Leon Art 17:13, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Looking at game statistics there is a value for crush defence, stab defence and ranged defence. Common sense made it so that monsters with low stab defence have low ranged defence and vice versa. However the cannon acts as a ranged weapon, so judging by my knowledge of how the game works it would be indistinguishable from arrows. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 20:17, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

odd though. maybe they should fix that ^_^ Leon Art 00:05, July 6, 2011 (UTC) btw, where can u see those ingame statistics?


For monsters you sadly can't, I wish they updated Monster Examine to include it so it actually has a use. But I can only assume monsters share the same stats as we do, just different values of course. We don't have a different ranged attack or defence bonus stat for a sling, bow, handcannon etc. either. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 03:27, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Steal dmc?[edit source]

can a dwarf multicannon be stolen?? lik can an other player take it ?

I don't think it can. You could in RSC, but then you'd have to go find the cannon of the person who took yours, if I recall correctly. But I think they changed that. Suppa chuppa Talk 03:55, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

No, it can not be stolen. 82.75.82.85 13:58, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

1-40 ranged w cannon?[edit source]

does anyone know roughly how many cannonbals it takes to get from 1 to 40 range ?

because i realy want to make a 10 hp ranger, but i dont feel like spending Mil's on cannonballs when i dont have a clue how much the total wil cost me.

the total xp is 37k (or actualy 30k since i wil be using 100% xp boost for the first 14k to lvl 30)

can anyone clarify this?  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.29.27.195 (talk) on 13:31, 2011 August 20.

100% exp bonus? If that is from the referral program you are evil. Anyway it depends on how high you hit with them, since Ranged exp is based on the amount of damage you did. For level 40 you'll need to deal 186,120 damage.Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 20:19, August 20, 2011 (UTC)


Evolution of Combat[edit source]

The cannon will now award hitpoints experience, as far as I can tell. Boo. 88 ranged, 88 slayer and 83 hp. :( Gamerunknown (talk) 15:39, December 2, 2012 (UTC)'

I just noticed that when using a cannon for slayer, if your cannon does more then half the damage to a monster, you only get half the slayer xp when the monster dies. Anyone else see that, post more information?68.3.49.12 16:28, December 18, 2012 (UTC)Larka

Cannon + Vampyrism[edit source]

Does damage done by dwarf multicannon count for Vampyrism aura lifepoints gain? Or only the damage i will make by myself does it? Eakhor (talk) 14:18, December 31, 2012 (UTC)