Talk:Dragon ore

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A disappointing article for the 15,000. The jmod didn't confirm anything, he said the word "probably". Shame. --Gold ore.png Mercifull UK serv.svg (Talk) 10:54, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
have a better article? Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 10:56, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, some Dungeoneering article, or something. Delete this. He said "probably" and then a joke. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 15:23, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
Well, when dragon ore is eventually released, I'm sure this article will become quite a bit more interesting. Though I agree that for now it is a bit disappointing. Vlastne 19:19, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
We don't even know if it will ever be released. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 20:19, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
I don't think we should delete this a J Mod mentioned the possibility. Though I do agree it is a disappointing article to be the 15,000th one. Krayfish 00:25, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
If you view the Non-existent item policy here., it clearly states Articles about unreleased items with valid proof of being implemented in the future may be created under normal circumstances. Links and references to the evidence should be supplied, However it also states Commonly discussed things that do not exist in RuneScape, such as various dragon and white items, should be redirected to Non-existent item.  I actually rather like the 15,000th article to be Dragon Ore, there is some proof it exists as the Moderator did say yes. But I'll leave you to discuss the Non-existent item policy, since it's pretty weighed out wether to change it. 08:16, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
I agree we should mention it somewhere. However, per Exsibilation, it shouldn't have an article. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 13:42, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
Dragon warhammer has an article and has just as much information regarding it as this article does, yet that isn't considerd for deletetion. I sense it has something to do with people being dissapointed that this was the 15k article but that alone shouldn't make it reason for deletion. Defence cape (t).png Rabbit FearArmadyl godsword.png 19:00, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
That is not at all why, at least not for me. I would much rather have Dragon ore be the 15,000th article instead of something like Black key red, for example. However, the dragon warhammer's existence is confirmed. Dragon ore's is not. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 20:50, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
If we are discussing on whether this article should be deleted or not, we should keep it on the RFD page. Krayfish 20:55, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
This article is totally unnessessary. Not only does "probably" followed by a joke not proof for anything, but according to Postbag 41, Dragon might not even be MADE from a single ore, but be an alloy of other metals which might be unknown.I propose a VFD. --Armadyl symbol.png Nightgunner Talk Illuminated Book of Law.png 21:09, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
UNBELIEVABLE. How can some of you guys say that this is the disappointment of a 15000th article?! IT DOESN'T MATTER which article was the 15000th; it was just a bit of fun as decided in the cc. Very invalid deletion reason. I'm pretty sure ALL of you are complaining here only because it is the 15000th article. I don't see talk pages full of complaints for the other RfDs. Chicken7 >talk 11:13, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm beginning to agree with you Chicken. I didn't realize the reasons behind creating this article at first. Krayfish 19:21, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
I too am a bit dissapointed by this article. It's not very impressive, it's only evidence that the ore might one day exist are that a J-Mod said "probably" ages ago. Its second peice of eveidence is quite ridiculous, being: "He did not, however, confirm that dragon ore was not in development." That's akin to me saying that a Rune bowsword will come out next week as "no-one has confirmed it won't!". I'm not dissapointed it was 15,000 article: that doesn't matter. What matters to me is that there is no solid evidence it will ever exist. As stated by nightgunner, the "ore" is probably an alloy of a black ore, a red ore, and an ivory ore, shaped in fantastical moulds created by the Kin. The fact that rune requires 99 smithing shows that to release a new ore would eb technically impossible at this point in time. ile:Runecrafter hat.png Helm360Talkhiscore Mithril bar.png 20:29, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
I think that what you said about using molds to form the pieces &c. is likely - based on the dragon forge, the dragonkin clearly were technically advanced, so some mechanical means could be used to create the pieces, so it/they would not needing a smithing level higher than 99. I'm not saying that it's guaranteed or not to be released, just refuting your point that smelting/smithing dragon ore/bars would be impossible. Constitution cape.png Vlastne Quest point cape.png 00:52, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I agree. Annoyingly, I managed to shoot myself in the foot XD. ile:Runecrafter hat.png Helm360Talkhiscore Mithril bar.png 21:01, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

never delete[edit source]

Qazwiz 15:18, May 27, 2010 (UTC)


first let me preface my observations with noting that i have never seen this mentioned ANYWHERE else, not even the convo that was quoted so I am entering into this debate with only my knowledge of how straight forward the entire JAGEX team is about unrealeased content


that said, one must remember the evasiveness that comes with all J-Mod comments. once you remember that, this comment says volumes


it is my opinion that:

  • it has been discussed behind closed doors
  • there is much controversy as how to impliment (adament/rune it ain't)
  • because he said "probably" instead of "doubtful"
    • the "existence" of "an ore you make dragon plate from" is a given,
      Just details required to make the Dragon plate is in flux
    • and eventually there will be some way, albeit very hard way,
      to make items from a metal called "Dragon"
  • due to the "owner wouldn't...." comment
    • the ore, when available, likely will be protected by
      at least one aggressive force (alloy would allow more)
    • if it is an alloy
      • more than one component of the alloy could be aggressively protected
  • The actual crafting/smithing of the ore/bars will have extensive requirements


the only reason to delete this article is if you require every article to be 100% true and verifiable

Qazwiz 15:18, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

mythical[edit source]

i tagged this with a new catagory tag that will prevent anyone from thinking this article is 100% real


the mythical tag should be used on a number of article i have seen here and I suggest another tag (currently nonexistant) called "unmythical" or "non mythical" or simply "mythical removed" when the item in question becomes a real thing in-game (just so someone looking for a mythical article can still find it when the tag is removed)

Qazwiz 15:26, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

mythical[edit source]

i tagged this with a new catagory tag that will prevent anyone from thinking this article is 100% real


the mythical tag should be used on a number of article i have seen here and I suggest another tag (currently nonexistant) called "unmythical" or "non mythical" or simply "mythical removed" when the item in question becomes a real thing in-game (just so someone looking for a mythical article can still find it when the tag is removed)

Qazwiz 15:26, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

Qazwiz, why did you post four different sections here, each saying the same thing? White partyhat old.png C Teng talk
Saving lag, missclicks clicks of the button...
I think Category:Unreleased content or Category:Possible upcoming content etc would be better. Mythical brings up thoughts of greek legends and things like unicorns, chimeras, and so on; mythical could also realistically be applied to a different meaning, like grouping all monsters that are considered mythical outside of RS. Using something more specific like the example I gave would make more sense to me. Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 19:19, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

Delete it[edit source]

This is a VERY crummy 15,000th article, it could be something that really EXISTS!!! Username1907 rulez! http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/runescape/images/c/cb/Dragon_two-handed_sword.png 05:42, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

That's not a really good excuse to delete an article. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 21:20, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
It's an article about something that doesn't exist, it doesn't matter if it's the 15,000th article, it should be deleted. Forgotten warrior (primal).png Tako Manz Sign me!Forgotten warrior (primal).png 22:23, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
Again, RS:NIP. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 02:11, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
Again, delete it.Forgotten warrior (primal).png Tako Manz Sign me!Forgotten warrior (primal).png 23:25, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
Again, keep it, per RS:NIP. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 23:50, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Don't Delete[edit source]

Even though the mod said probably, I don't think we should delete this, it is good evidence. We should wait until Jagex says for sure that it wouldn't exist. Although I have to say, this article isn't a good article to mark the wiki's 15, 000th article. -- Unknown 01:01, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

RS:NOT#CRYSTAL[edit source]

If we put this as our 15,000th article, people will automatically think, "yup, dragon ore will exist" and will disregard that it might not really exist, and will blame it on us if we keep it. Username1907 rulez! http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/runescape/images/c/cb/Dragon_two-handed_sword.png 18:17, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Well, that's their problem if they're too lazy to read this entire short article. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 18:59, June 12, 2010 (UTC)