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Divination[edit source]

The skill is confirmed via RuneScape Twitter. You can unprotect it now or unblock whatever you did. 5-x Talk 09:45, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

For those who, like me, have trouble finding the mentioned twitter, look here. 11:07, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

The skill[edit source]

I'm thinking this may have something to do with counter-abilities. If it's about perception and intuition then possibly 'anticipating' an enemies anctions using the power of the gods foreseight could be pretty epic.

Any other predictions?

Sethowar (talk)

My guess is that it will involve gathering some sort of an energy, perhaps. 5-x Talk 20:16, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
I highly doubt it will be about anticipating an enemy's actions, creating an entire new skill just for that would be stupid (no offence). My guess is it will have something to do with the upcoming 2nd God Wars of Gielinor. It's a shame updates like this take so long, I CAN'T WAIT!!! :-)
Sliske symbol.png Draconis E Talk Illuminated Book of Balance.png 05:53, May 14, 2013 (UTC)
Blod Bror (talk)
Its been confirmed that one is going to be gathering like woodcutting and mining and one will be production, like crafting and smithing.  Also been leaked that one will be called divination. So your tehory doesnt seem to support the evidence.
It's gonna involve the power of the gods (like mod mark said) AND there's gonna be a second god wars. We'll just have to wait and see.
Sliske symbol.png Draconis E Talk Illuminated Book of Balance.png 07:57, May 14, 2013 (UTC)
based on the name and the fact that its a 'gathering' skill I'm thinking we will be acquiring the gods 'favour' (hence 'old school skill' - doing a repetitive task for a reward of basic goods) and receiving possibly blessed weapons and armour ('new school rewards') Sethowar (talk) 22:09, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Anyone else think it may be gather resources so the production skill can make items that go in the pocket slot. I also think the skill will be really slow to train (hence the old-school skill) but with pocket slot items (new-school rewards). This would make sense in my opinion, as currently the only way to get pocket items is through creating scrimshaws in the POP minigame. 06:38, June 15, 2013 (UTC)Wonder r98.226.87.43 06:38, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

Divination and Binding?[edit source]

Without going too far away from Divination, do you think the composite skill would be bindingi? If you divine power and 'produce' it into something, that power would have to be 'bound' into a portal, or chamber to entrap demons and the like.

It would also fit in quite nicely with the most recent skill (dungeoneering), and the Mahjarrat storyline, which we know is both associated with Daemonheim and the God Wars.

How divination fits in with the emissaries, however, is yet to be seen.

Ro 00:51, June 23, 2013 (UTC)

If this skill is P2P only...

Signia (talk) 18:01, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

Divination and Runespan[edit source]

Anyone else notice, from the concept art, that divination looks like the runespan? I mean, there's no obvious way to get the stuff, it's magical, and it's coming from the ground. 13:55, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

Synergies and Effigies. Not related to Ancient Effigies.[edit source]

Synergies, Effigies and Energies from Divine forms of Energy in Divination?

Ancient Energy/Ancient Synergy (Starved/Gorged)

Pale Effigy/Pale Synergy

Flickering Effigy/Flickering Synergy

Bright Effigy/Bright Synergy

Glowing Effigy/Glowing Synergy

Gleaming Effigy/Glowing Synergy

Vibrant Effigy/Vibrant Synergy

Lustrous Effigy/Lustrous Synergy

Brilliant Effigy/Brilliant Synergy

Radiant Effigy/Radiant Synergy

Lumuinous Effigy/Luminous Synergy

Incandescent Effigy/Incadescent Synergy.

Divine Effigy

Any synergies and effigies related to Divination? Not energies, what synergies (plural form of energy, working simultaneously). 21:23, August 6, 2013 (UTC)

Premium Club Newsletter Information[edit source]

Please add the following information from the premium club newsletter, "you'll be able to transmute resources into smaller amounts of higher-tier resources - yew logs into magic logs, for example - and there'll be a new group of items that give you and those around you a quick burst of resources and skill training."  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) on 15:38, August 9, 2013.

MOD MARK JUST CONFIRMED DIVINATIONS RELEASE TO BE THIS WEEK the week of August 19th! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Karatydolphi (talk). 16:33, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

Flash Mobs[edit source]

A Demon Flash Mob was just dragged to the varrock spot and killed... 20 players?  Should this be included somewhere in the Wiki?  I added it but it was swiftly changed.

Zomblified (talk) 02:10, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

Thought they weren't aggro; added back. MolMan 02:13, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
they're not aggressive. was it a demon with an aoe attack? Illagong (talk) 02:21, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
It was an executioner.  I'm just suggesting it be added because I saw a bunch of people attack them  not knowing what they were. Zomblified (talk) 02:38, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
If they attacked them themselves, it was their own fault and not notable. MolMan 02:40, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

XP Values[edit source]

Please remember that XP values entered into the XP table should be experience gained without a boon active. I'm as yet unsure whether the 10% bonus from boons affects the XP given by energy deposited with the memories; however, XP from depositing just the memories should be divided by 1.1 before being entered into the table. --Volons (talk) 07:29, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

The XP table is now up-to-date. Thank you everyone. --Volons (talk) 01:57, August 25, 2013 (UTC)

Enriched Spring[edit source]

Added a picture of several players harvesting an enriched spring.  If anyone can isolate the spring and unpoked wisp itself in a picture however and add it to the main article that may be enriching.Zomblified (talk) 07:59, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

Rifts experience table[edit source]

Wouldn't it be better to just add a note that using Enriched memories will provide double experience and thus having only 3 experience columns instead of 6? Would make the table a bit more practical, imo. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 11:28, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

Tears of Guthix[edit source]

Hrm.  I just did my weekly tears of guthix, and divination was my lowest skill (41), but it was my next lowest skill (hunter, lvl 79) that got the xp.  Does anyone know if divination has been deliberately excluded from ToG (and for how long), or if this is just a glitch?Matchgirl42 (talk) 04:25, August 22, 2013 (UTC)

For a few weeks after a skill is released said skill cannot be the target of xp items/minigames. It has always been this way so people couldn't stockpile experience boosts and level it up way too quickly. 05:45, August 22, 2013 (UTC)

Search reasoning?[edit source]

Is there any reason why when I search divination or anything related to it on this wiki I end up searching "Fishing?" 05:47, August 22, 2013 (UTC)

That was happening to someone else earlier, think it's just a random fluke. For the other person it was fixed after a few minutes. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 06:06, August 22, 2013 (UTC)

Spring Absorption[edit source]

Noticed at the Glimmering location.  Occasionally the spring will absorb a regular memory and turn it into an enriched memory.  Don't know if this happens at all locations, don't know if this only happens at enriched springs (the only time it happened for me - only happened twice).  It has a unique message in chatbox.  Further testing? Zomblified (talk) 11:29, August 22, 2013 (UTC)

I noticed this wasn't in the article, and I'm sure it happens everywhere, so I added it in. It happens if you're one of the first four people to touch it (pid seems to play a part) and you have a normal memory in your inventory. 16:30, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

Too easy?[edit source]

After 2 days of the skills release there is already some1 at level 78. Was this skill made too easy? Asd1230 (talk) 11:30, August 22, 2013 (UTC)

Think of it in terms of experience gained, not levels gained. It's been two days and the maximum experience gained is not even 2 million. And really, these are from people who are "no-lifers" (no offence). So it'll take a week or so for someone to get 99. 99 Dungeoneering took a month, but really, everyone was running around like headless chickens when dungeoneering was released. No one knew the best methods until a few weeks in, and there were fewer no-lifers back then. It's just how advanced the community is nowadays and really, how simplistic (not easy) the skill is (click on a spring, get memories, convert to experience). HaidroH rune.pngEagle feather 3.pngCandle (blood red).png 1XqyDNM.png Crystal triskelion fragment 3.pngHazelmere's signet ring.png 11:46, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
On top of that... it's well designed (in the way that the next tier = better exp/hour, opposed to willows till vlv 50 in the days of early(?) wc)... furthermore, you can also buy energy/energies(?sp.), use them with the memories to achieve even more exp/hour. So... for a fuller picture: no-lifers + simplistic + easily understood efficientcy + wealth. . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 11:52, August 22, 2013 (UTC)

Enriched Spawns[edit source]

I've been taking note of the times of death and respawn of Enriched Wisps and instead of spawning in "20minutes and 15 seconds" intervals or whatever the other rumours are, they spawn in three spawns, each of which has a respawn time of 60 minutes. This means that when one node spawns at 13h:47m:16s and dies on at 13h:48m:18s, two different enriched wisps will spawn before the same wisp then spawns again at 14h:48m:18s and dies at 14h:49m:13s, it will then spawn again at 15h:50m:13s and so on. These numbers are from a notepad I have been filling in the last two days.  Father of Laika( 12:01, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah. it seems that there has been an update and this has been changed yet another time.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) on 16:27, August 23, 2013.
A hotfix on August 23 updated enriched wisps so that their spawn times are now reset frequently. The only reason their spawn times were larger than 20 minutes to begin with was because of server lagg. I've added this to the main article. Volons (talk) 02:22, August 25, 2013 (UTC)
They have apparently been changed to spawn every 10 minutes now.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) on 17:36, December 5, 2014 (UTC).
That is a skiller's weekend promotion; it'll go back to every 20 minutes after 12pm GMT on 8 Dec 2014. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 17:42, December 5, 2014 (UTC)

Boons xp boost[edit source]

I'm not sure the xp boosts are working... When harvesting Sparkling energy, you get 5 xp for each normal memory, and 10 xp for each enriched memory. With the boon, that should be 5.5 xp and 11 xp, right? So why do I only get 5 and 10? Is it because I created the boon with Glowing energy before going to the Sparkling energy area? Wolbee 17:43, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

Double check that you made the boon? MolMan 17:45, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
For Glowing Energy Products, I don't have the boon option... Wolbee 17:50, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
Does it give you the sparkling boon option for sparkling energy? MolMan 17:53, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
Nope, it gives me the Boon of gleaming energy though Wolbee 17:54, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
According to Jagex... "Boons increase the amount of XP and/or energy that you get when converting memories of that tier.". See if the XP you're getting from conversion is higher than the guide XP. -- Divination-icon.png C ø D E 19:05, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
Ya, we figured that out like hours ago. ;) MolMan 19:08, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

Im Choice[edit source]

Im Choice first to 99 divination at 10:10PM UTC Thursday, August 29 2013 22:12, August 29, 2013 (UTC) austere

Thanks, we got it covered over at skill mastery What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 22:14, August 29, 2013 (UTC)
Wait, does that imply Max was second to 99 Divination only? :O IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 11:22, August 30, 2013 (UTC)

Desert equipment[edit source]

As well as including information about waterskins etc for the desert location, also include that combining the Tome of Frosts effect of lowering the desert damage, and the Regeneration Bracelets effect of increasing natural healing speed will be sufficient protection from the desert heat (ie you can stay there forever with only those two items equiped). 12:13, August 30, 2013 (UTC)

Rates for Gaining Multiple Energies per Catch[edit source]

I Noticed as I was leveling up, You gain more Energy per catch with a higher level than you do with a lower level. Any idea what levels are required to gain the Multiple Energies?

Obbyshaggz (talk) 22:05, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

See Divine energy. -- My Divination page! C ø D E TC 22:58, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

Confirmations of the Suspension[edit source]

Mod Hew stated in the Divination Q/A that the Suspension (No Bonus XP) was going to last 2 weeks - 1 Month. Has their been any new news or confirmed time period? Obbyshaggz (talk) 01:19, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

Divine locations[edit source]

I am doing some research on the distribution of loot for divine locations and what formula is used to determine the daily resource cap. My contributionsTHARKONSignatures I made 01:30, September 21, 2013 (UTC)

Transmutation[edit source]

Would it be worth it to note the difference in GEP for initial resources and resulting resources: For the purpose of being able to show wether selling initial resources, potentially skill obtained resources, would earn more gp than selling the resulting resource? Essentially what I'm asking is would it be beneficial to show whether or not it would be worth transmuting an item. Dragon pickaxe.png Mister Sulu Veteran cape (10 year).png 14:15, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

Doesn't the table here tell you? If the profit is negative, you'll get more money selling the original resources + energy; if the profit is positive, you will get more money transmuting and selling the result. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 14:34, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

Any particular reason someone would receive only 9 blue charms when transmuting from Crimson to Blue? Drixxy (talk) 05:06, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Divination random event[edit source]

After having joined a faction in World Event 2, you can get the following message in your chatbox (in plain white text), randomly (uncommonly to rarely) when poking a wisp:
"Bandos rewards your loyalty! You have an increased chance to find super memories for the next three minutes."
I gathered some data regarding the ratio of normal to enchriched memories, and how this is affected by this 'random event'. The data was gathered with Divination 97, at the Incandescent wisps. In 500 memories gathered under normal circumstances, 26.8% were enriched memories. Out of 500 memories gathered while the boost was active, 39.6% were enriched. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 15:30, December 29, 2013 (UTC)

Sparkling memory experience amount[edit source]

Did Jagex flub the amount of experience for converting sparkling memories with energy and boon? 17.5 is 16.7% more than 15, as opposed to 10% with other boons (which would be 16.5 xp). I've personally confirmed both the 13.2 and 17.5 xp amounts (w/o and w/ energy; both w/ boon), which doesn't follow the +25% formula for converting with energy that the other types seem to follow. Can somebody without boon confirm 12 and 15 xp without it?  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) on 04:47, August 16, 2014 (UTC).

Chronicle fragment spawning[edit source]

I just had two Chronicle fragments spawn simultaneously (or within a few seconds of each other). The wiki page doesn't note this as a possibility, instead claiming that Chronicles have the opportunity to spawn approximately every minute. Has anyone else seen this?

Codemastercode (talk) 01:41, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

Caches[edit source]

Shouldn't there be a mention of Guthixian Caches in the Divination article? It's kind of important to the skill. 18:59, September 9, 2015 (UTC)Moltar Kaio

You're right, it should be mentioned if not already. Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 23:25, September 9, 2015 (UTC)