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False speedy deletion request[edit source]

There is no real proof that the Dark Lord is Zamorak. There are references to "Zamorak's world" and "Zamorak's fury", but not to Zamorak himself.

See also the Wiki policies:

RS:NOT#CRYSTAL - the wiki is not for speculation, but only for canonical information stated by Jagex.


RS:GRANULARITY - "Pretty much anything notable, excluding players, may have its own article."

RuneScape:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion - Bad cases - "Stubs, no matter how small, could one day become a very long article." Muhahaa 08:50, May 23, 2010 (UTC)

Speculation[edit source]

Let's speculate a little bit on the talk page. The next Mahjarrat quest is supposed to be the final Mahjarrat quest. If the Dark Lord was Zamorak - a character who belongs to the Mahjarrat storyline, we should hear something about it in the next Mahjarrat quest. If we don't hear anything about it in that quest, Zamorak can't be the Dark Lord, since he is a character from a finished storyline. Muhahaa 14:40, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

Who said anything about the elf storyline being finished? Coelacanth0794 15:11, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
The MAHJARRAT storyline will be finished in the next sequel. Zamorak is a part of the Mahjarrat storyline. http://www.gamerzines.com/mmo/news/jagex-interview-pt-2.html
Didn't the Mahjarrat have a god of their own back in Freneskae? It seems that if this is truly
"Zamorak's world", then we all have something to fear. He did spawn stories of the Muspah after
all.......

Yes , but 1st of all Zamorak WAS a Mahjarrat now he is a pretender god , 2nd , the MYSTERIES OF THE MAHJARRAT are over , there will be more quests with mahjarrats bieng involved and 3rd I think the dark lord is Mahjarrat Kharshai 17:46, April 2, 2012 (UTC)17:46, April 2, 2012 (UTC)17:46, April 2, 2012 (UTC)17:46, April 2, 2012 (UTC)

There is another god that could be comming from 'Zamorak's World'. If the world indeed is Freneskae, then it is also possible that it is the unnamed Elder God known as Freneskae Creator-God. On the Freneskae page it is also said that according to Mod Osborne this is an evil god, matching the profile. Rsshadow (talk) 09:44, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Speculation[edit source]

There is also a growing belief among players that the Dark Lord is actually the Empty Lord Zaros. This is plausible, since there were certain confrontations between Zarosian and Serenist forces during the Second Age, and it is not impossible that Zaros would have gained some Elven followers during this time, and they would now be attempting to bring him back. It has also been said that Zaros is roaming Freneskae as of now, which corroborates with the information that the Dark Lord is from "Zamorak's world". Zaros also arguably fits the "Dark" noun better than Zamorak.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Markthorn (talk) on 23:38, November 4, 2013‎.

In that phrase, "Dark" is an adjective, not a noun.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 96.28.4.43 (talk) on 09:21, January 9, 2014.

A GOD[edit source]

I was thinking, according to Mod Osborne, the Dark lord is a "god", so I was thinking we should catelog him as a God, no?Quest.png Adventurerrr Talk Quest.png 01:34, January 18, 2014 (UTC)

Unreliable source, so no. Chris L has some ideas about his identity though. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 07:35, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
lol, since when is Mod Osborne deemed an unreliable source, except by you (on January 18, 2014)??
However, the dark lord is a nickname, like "the Scourge" or " the Empty one" etc.. The character already exists (whether it's Zaros, Zamorak, or another yet again). I don't think he will have to be named again, besides at the AKA part in the deity infobox. . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 07:36, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
He did not respond in an official instances uch as a postbag ot a Q&A. Hence it is a "jmod statement", which are the least reliable sources. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 07:50, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
I'm fairly sure he did say in on official instances.. like on Above the lore..-- . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 12:03, January 20, 2014 (UTC)

Zaros?[edit source]

Zamorak's world is freneskae, Zaros was there, Zaros is one of their bigger more notable gods. Zamorak would likely punish them for summoning him. Zane T 69 (talk) 16:30, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

Zamorak's world isn't Freneskae. Mod Rowley revealed that it's ambiguous whether it is Infernus or not, but, according to the World Gate, they're probably intended to be separate. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 19:06, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
If it's Infernus, perhaps it's Hostilius or someone like that? Jagex have hinted that Hostilius might be alive since he became too large to ever truly die. He'd certainly fit the "bigger" description, at least. 70.99.104.234 16:28, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

Picture[edit source]

I wanted to update the picture with higher quality, but i'm getting some kind of error. Can anyone do it for me? Here is the picture: YiJeQn5.png

Going4Quests (talk) 14:16, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Where did you get this from btw? If this is the Dark lord it looks like he's a corrupted Amlodd mage that had a bear summoning accident? . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 15:16, June 12, 2014 (UTC)
That image is from this video, but no mention on who the person is at all. It does not seem to be the Dark Lord as he bears the symbol of the Amlodd elf clan. pjJ4pBM.png Abyssal vine whip.png 15:21, June 12, 2014 (UTC)
Ah, yeah, I remember that. But... why couldn't it be the Dark Lord then? I don't remember it being said that the Dark Lord was not Amlodd[ian]. We do know it'll be a bit plot twist, we were also told that the assumption that the Iowerth being evil is a bad one. I can see how those two things could potentially make a very interesting combination. . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 15:25, June 12, 2014 (UTC)
This isn't the place for speculation though, especially when it comes to something like this when we have little to no information at all regarding what the Dark Lord looks like. pjJ4pBM.png Abyssal vine whip.png 15:30, June 12, 2014 (UTC)
Then why did you speculate in saying that it couldn't? . . . Yours, This user admires the Void Knights. Who aim to maintain Gielinor's Equilibrium. Enquidou Talk This user likes to do Quests and genuinely loves the story line; lore is his love! . . 15:48, June 12, 2014 (UTC)