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What is AbsMinPrice and AbsMaxPrice?[edit source]

What exactly is it? Is it the + or - 5% of the current market price or the ceiling and the floor? Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 22:50, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

The absolute maximum price and the absolute minimum price for that item - the hard price ceiling and/or floor set by jagex in the exchange. Most items have this blank as it is unknown, not many items have actually reached one of them, usually junk. Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 22:53, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
This should be clarified on each article; most articles with this use it as the current min/max prices. That is what I thought it was D: Ajraddatz Talk 22:54, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
It does note that in [[Template:ExchangeItemHelp]], maybe it could be clearer. AmauriceBot updates that field automatically, and its processed [[Grand Exchange Market Watch/Max Price|here (max)]] and [[Grand Exchange Market Watch/Min Price|here (min)]]. Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 23:03, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
Instead of ExchangeItemHelp, the information is now held at {{GEMWHelp}}. See Forum:Reforming GEMW instruction templates. Quest point cape.pngLil Diriz 77 Talk Summoning-icon.png 03:34, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

Can we make a herb index?[edit source]

A herb index might be useful. Or maybe a herblore index, including potions as well. 222 talk 10:48, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Grand Exchange Market Watch/Herblore has existed since December 2007. --Saftzie 00:09, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
Thats not a herb index. Im talking about something like the log index, metal index and food index. 222 talk 06:57, July 24, 2010 (UTC)


This Should be on the CTI page instead as that is what it's based on. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 09:39, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I've asked Azliq7 about this. Hopefully we'll have it made or know why it can't be made soon. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 21:05, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
Grand Exchange Market Watch/Herb Index Ta da. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 03:35, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
Thank you! Woah, herbs really have gone up in price a lot. 222 talk 07:19, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

People keep editing the rare/discontinued items' prices[edit source]

I would fix it but when I try to correct the prices, when I submit the actual price the price change box does not load it.

Game card 17:07, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Game card

2010 July 15th 18:06

Price rounding[edit source]

I notice there is a lot of price rounding on updated prices. Presumably this is because when looking at non-ingame sources like ge database or any other ge-looking up service, it will usually have a value rounded to 3-4 significant figures. Unfortunately, what this causes is, incorrect price updating. Should this be allowed?

The other day, yesterday I think, I updated the price for the 4 godsword with their exact prices (looked up in game and put that exact number) only to have someone come 2 hours later, and, without looking at what the actual price is, update it by rounding it and making it incorrect. The change could be small like +/- a few thousand, but when that happens, and we're using the rounded values here, it won't correctly reflect the price change. Once again, should this be allowed? Godel 15:09, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

We can't do anything about it. Our bots access the GED for their prices - they cannot go ingame as then that would break the rules and risk banning and other bad consequences for us. Feel free to update items to their accurate value manually, though. The only problem there is that its hard to tell what is and what is not vandalism, without being a member stood at the GE. Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 18:18, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
Unforutnately, as it stands, editing unrounded prices is in fact vandalism, so we can't really have that either can we? Godel 19:48, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
The problem is that humans only update about 12-20 prices a day, whereas about 16-1800 actually change. The GEDB is very inaccurate at prices near (above) 1,000 and 1,000,000 but we are limited to what Jagex supply. SmackBot will not update any price that has been changed since it identified a change itself, and it checks about once an hour, this decreases the chance of it overwriting a better price entered by a human. Rich Farmbrough, 20:30 24 August 2010 (GMT).

Exchange:Test[edit source]

Looks like there is an item on the GEDB being picked up... Rich Farmbrough, 20:25 24 August 2010 (GMT).

GE Price Update link popup code[edit source]

When viewing items in an Infobox Item template, and gemw = exchange is set, GEPriceUpdate seems to be used to insert a link to update the price. Some months ago, the old method of manually editing a template was replaced with code to pop up a small dialog box. There are two modifications I think would greatly streamline these new boxes. However, I do not know WHERE to find the code for that feature. It is in a template or partly in an external JavaScript or CSS file?

First, after clicking the update link, the box appears, but you have to manually click a second time to move the cursor inside the box. I'd use some JavaScript/DOM to focus on that box and spare the extra clicking.

Second, after hitting Enter or clicking the Update button inside the small dialog box, the new data is submitted. This is where the data and time stamps are all magically handled and updated, which is great. However, afterwards, I get a little JavaScript alert style browser popup (triggering a system sound effect), which further requires a click or enter keypress to dismiss. I would also like to remove that.

These two things are annoying, cumbersome, and serve no purpose. It would be improved without the extra clicking. I'm willing to do the coding/debugging, if I have access to it. It seems rather trivial.

I've tried searching around in templates and in externally linked JavaScript and CSS pages, and can't find any of the text messages from either the dialog box or the javascript alert. So any help appreciated. If there's some further policy to follow before saving changes, inform me of that, and a pointer to a page outlining the specific policy that may apply to this situation. Warp9pnt9 17:14, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

Price Forecasting[edit source]

One major contributor to price/stock forcasting has been the use of genetic algorithms and neural networks to accuratly find patterns in complex situations of past data, and construct a model to generate predictions for proper purchase and sale moments. It has become extremely effective on the most risky securities markets, in unstable and analytically unpredictable markets (Like the runescape economy).

While mainly being used in the stock market I see no reason why it cannot be applied to runescape item price forcasting. All that is needed to make a model is data (a lot of data, say the price history of coal for the past three years.)

I was wondering whether a record of this data (not in only graphical form) has been kept, and if it has how can I get a hold of it?

Thank you,

Timothy Cookson

Weirwindle 04:34, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

I know it’s been almost exactly 7 years since you posted this, but I’ll reply anyway for posterity.

The prices of items on the GE has been logged since 2008, it looks like. Here’s the page for coal, logging the price since 2008: Coal GE price history 18:26, December 10, 2017 (UTC)

Some Questions[edit source]

I have two questions:

1)How is the Common Trade Index calculated (i. e. the formula)

2)Has the RuneScape economy gotten so low that the CTI reach below 100?

Thanks in advance! 01:42, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Where is the best place?[edit source]

Where is the best place to put this calculator?


I think it would be useful to have it somewhere. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 16:54, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

I've added it to a part of the main GEMW page. 222 talk 08:23, December 29, 2010 (UTC)
Ok, it looks good where it is. Thx JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 09:29, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Idea.... Weekly Analysis?[edit source]

Before you all start screaming speculation and opinions, I would like to say it would be ENTIRELY possible to have a weekly analysis, updated weekly, or even daily. It could list reasons for price rises or falls, or talk about upcoming events that may impact the Grand Exchange. With all the factors effecting prices today, I advocate an impartial, unbiased evaluation of the market's performance either weekly or daily.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) on 17:30, 6 February 2011 (UTC).

And how are you going to find a impartial, unbiased person who is going to evaluate the market? And what if he's wrong? Will he get the blame? Will he have to pay your loss? I don't think this is a good idea, as it's not a fact, but an evaluation, and this wiki is trying to be as encyclopedic as possible. Evaluations could differ per person who evaluates the situation. The one might say it's because of this, the other might say it's about that. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 01:09, March 7, 2011 (UTC)
If you can do that, feel free to do the same for the real economy - I hear it's fairly well paid ;) King Runite1 00:02, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Bars[edit source]

unless im an idiot, gold and silver bars need adding to the materials section 15:21, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

i found it after i wrote it dont worry, i am an idiot it seems 15:23, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Does insulting yourself count as insulting behaviour? ;) - also do I comment by just editing the discussion like this and adding my sig at the end, or is there another/better way to do it? New to wiki editing, previously only worked with HTML or written stuff in forums.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Radyengal (talk) on 12:24, 12 April 2019 (UTC).

Yeah, just edit the discussion, add the comment, and indeed don't forget to add your signature at the end which you ironically forgot to add this time. :P Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 12:38, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Armor/Weapons Index[edit source]

Hello. Is there a way to put up an index for armor and weapons, and one for all items combined? Thank you. 01:02, May 19, 2011 (UTC)Dark_wizzie

Graph+Table[edit source]

Can we get a really big graph and possibly a table to go along with it? Both would be very helpful.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) on 15:57, 21 May 2011 (UTC).

Superheating Grand Exchange market watch[edit source]

I think a superheating grand exchange market watch would be usefull. Would'nt it?

I think lots of ores are updated frequently allready it would be just the calculations in a nice table

for steel bars => 2*[coal price] + 1*[iron price] +[nature rune price] would be the cost

and 1*[steel bar price] the gain. Substract these and we would have the profit (or loss...) 18:40, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I now created an account and I am very willing to contribute but right now I can't (it's protected, you know). Like i said (to make it extra clear, in other words) my goal is to make a "Superheat profit Market watch". It's very similar to the high alchemy market watch with the difference that there is a need to watch more items (ore, coal, nature rune, bar). And of course it would consist of every type of bar/ore. A plus point is that these items are allready updated regularly so this calculator would be quite accurate. I really hope that somone helps me in making this cause right now it's only a (good?) idea of mine. Looking forward to response ;-) Djdieter 21:09, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Value of money/monies[edit source]

The CTI, and particularly the CTI graph, is, in my opinion, an excellent tool for assessing the overall health of the RuneScape economy. However, it traces only commodity values per coin. I would be interested in seeing the existing market data used to construct the inverse: a graph which traced the value of the coin relative to the CTI. I would also be interested in seeing the values of the reward tokens, credits, sticks, etc. which are tradeable, or the indirectly calculated values for those which can be used to buy tradeable items, plotted with the coin. While I understand that this is a huge task, which would likely require the work of bots, I think it would provide a simple yet effective analysis of the overall economy in addition to that provided by the CTI graph. 23:41, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I really need to go make an account on the wiki. 23:45, September 14, 2011 (UTC) *goes*

Historical Prices[edit source]

Are all of the historical prices saved anywhere as individual data points? Some kind of place where the numbers that make up the charts are stored. That would be invaluable. thanks for the help

Gman050 11:42, April 24, 2012 (UTC)

Not really. But you can find and extract from the history page for each item.   az talk   12:07, April 25, 2012 (UTC)

Updated price[edit source]

I noticed the price of Nature runes has gone up from 109 to 111, and I attempted to change this, but couldn't find the bit that lets you edit prices. If someone else wants to update it thats fine but if you could also let me know exactly how to get to the editing page so that I will be able to help in the future, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks! Quietunrest (talk) 16:07, October 22, 2012 (UTC)

Charts Bugged[edit source]

The historical charts are not loading! Help! I've tried refreshing the page and everything.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) on 11:36, 4 December 2012 (UTC).

Updating Exchange Prices[edit source]

I have recently taken to High Alchemy, and have found that a large amount of items from the Alchemy watch have outdated prices. After I look further into it, I find a page that tells me of an update button that should appear on every item's exchange page, but when I try to find it, I can't. In short, is there a reason for this? Are these pages protected or am I just blind?

Goirad (talk) 22:00, May 23, 2013 (UTC)Goirad

  • With JavaScript enabled, when you are in an Exchange page (i.e. Exchange:Torstol seed), you should see this button:   az talk   01:02, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
  • That is very interesting... In the very same yellow box where that button appears, I have "If you need assistance on editing this page, or trying to understand how these Exchange pages work, please add a comment to Talk:Grand Exchange Market Watch."
    Goirad (talk) 01:07, May 24, 2013 (UTC) Goirad
  • You require JavaScript for the button to appear. Perhaps your JavaScript is disabled?   az talk   02:03, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
    That's the interesting bit, I do have it enabled. Could it be that I created my account on wikia only today?
    Goirad (talk) 02:06, May 24, 2013 (UTC)Goirad
    If you're still new, you need to be an autoconfirmed user first. Just wait a few days and continue editing... Have fun!   az talk   02:15, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for your help!
Goirad (talk) 02:17, May 24, 2013 (UTC)Goirad

Updated JadinkoSeed prices[edit source]

Most of the Jadinko seeds have gone down now like the ButterflyFlowerSeed is now 784gp/FlyTrap is now 68gp 14:12, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

Dream Blurs

Graphs Not Loading[edit source]

Anyone having this issue? I'm using chrome.

Hopefully the picture shows up. New to wiki editing -.-

--RSW Rose (talk) 01:21, April 18, 2015 (UTC)

Tortured ashes[edit source]

(I'm new) The tortured ashes page is messed up. Shwogin a ge value of 0 gp. No idea how to fix it.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Amolikespie (talk) on 17:47, 1 May 2015 (UTC).

GE prices haven't been updated for 2 days[edit source]

The GE prices haven't been updated for 2 days. Is there a problem with the updater script? aerowolf (talk) 20:06, August 18, 2015 (UTC)

Broken for four days now. The script seems to be "indefinitely protected" and I don't know enough about wikia to figure out even where its source is. But its definitely broken. 07:28, July 24, 2016 (UTC)

Broken scripts[edit source]

It would seem that the bottom three indexes are broken in some way, as when i view them on the Main page for the GE watch, there is just "Script error" in bold red text.--Lolman159 (talk) 18:54, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

It's an issue with wikia, the lua script doesn't have enough memory to create the graphs for the last three indices. --Zillionair1 (talk) 14:16, December 24, 2016 (UTC)

Mystic Orb High Alch Price is Incorrect[edit source]

Mystic Orb High Alch price is incorrect. Currently it shows up as 12k in the Grand Exchange Market Watch page, when really, it is only 6k for high alch. 06:05, December 30, 2017 (UTC)

Infinity hat[edit source]

Infinity hat needs updating, price is supposed to be 4.1m get price, not 9.8 mil like in the listing Infinity hat

Ssbenss 01:46, March 30, 2018 (UTC)

The price currently listed on the Grand Exchange site is 9.9m - where do you see 4.1m? --Iiii I I I 02:45, March 30, 2018 (UTC)

Blessed dragonhide[edit source]

All Zaros, Armadyl and Bandos dragonhide items + Guthix dragonhide coif and vambs have broken graphs on their pages. They only go back 6 months from 23 April. All Zamorak and Saradomin dragonhide items + Guthix dragonhide body and chaps are fine. I noticed that those who are fine have the (God) part in their title in a grey, smaller font than the others which have it in black with the same size. Every single blessed dragonhide's GE page have the 6 month problem though. ArcticFire (talk) 00:04, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

Torva full helm shard buy limit[edit source]

The buy limit for the shards are listed as 120 but the grand exchange limit is actually 240. Enough to make 2 torva full helms, which is also the buy limit on them.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2600:6c65:757f:c558:31fe:a5b9:c8b1:c34c (talk) on 02:55, 16 July 2018 (UTC).

Update price button is gone[edit source]

And I'm pretty sure I have JavaScript enabled. Jampolo 03:55, September 12, 2018 (UTC)

Mystic Shield[edit source]

In the calculator it has the mystic shield high alch and low alch prices at 12k and 8k respectively, though that is wrong they high alch and low alch for 9k and 6k respectivly. As I have no clue how or if it's possible to change those prices I'll leave this comment here in hopes that it'll get fix.

Peezoof (talk) 06:53, September 14, 2018 (UTC)

Accessing Grand Exchange Values via google sheets[edit source]

It's a bit of a niche question but I hope someone here might be able to answer it.

I've got a few spreadsheets which access grand exchange information to make some calculations. I used links to Wikia to do this so for example a cell containing: =IMPORTXML("","//*[@id='GEPrice']") gets the grand exchange value for Mithril Ore from the Wikia Wiki.

Does anyone know how to change this to point to the same information on the new official Wiki (or "here" as it's otherwise known)?

It was actually in updating my Spear/Hasta Calculator to take in the new Mining/Smithing updates I'd heard about that I realised that the official Wiki had moved here. It's a shame that transferring then deleting the majority of content is against the Wikia/Fandom TOS as it would be nice for the Fandom one to dissapear eventually. I keep on ending up on the wrong wiki.

Is it also against TOS to let people know that the Wikia one is no longer the official and community-run Wiki as it was only while looking for something else that I realised this (via the reddit thread talking about the move)? Until that point I was under the impression that this one was just one set up by Jagex with minimal community involvement.

I may see if I can write up my Spear/Hasta thing as a moneymaking guide as it's one of the ways in-game that you can make a profit in Gold whilst also gaining experience (as, by the last examination, you could make a profit from buying the raw ingredients and selling the end product by selling either spears or Hastae - at time of writing only spears make a profit this way up to Adamant and Rune provides profit for each but more for the Hastae. However until I can update the spreadsheet to replace coal with luminite and add in the extra tiers the chart is only accurate up to Mithril)

Any help with Automated online forms and whether I can do what I've done with the spreadsheet (It has a column which picks the maximum profit value between spear and Hasta).

Anyway - enough waffle. Thanks in advance for any answers

Radyengal (Waiting for RSMobile to be released - hopefully before Half Life 3) 11:04, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

IMPORTXML("","//*[@id='GEPrice']") should work to update your spreadsheet. It's against Fandom TOS to link to this Wiki on the old, but that doesn't stop you telling friends and such to use this one instead as that's where the editing community is. As for turning your Hasta spreadsheet into a Calculator, feel free to join the Discord to get some tips or information that might help. Choose OptionTalk-to MitcheII Slayer of Imps (skill: 2,695). . . . . . . . . . real life easter egg, :wowee: don't tell anyone though! Talk-to MitcheII Slayer of Imps (skill: 2,695) 11:32, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
Here's how to access the RS Wiki discord. P.S. @Radyengal: Could you please add a link to either your user page or your user talk page in your signature as required per rule #1 on the Signatures page? Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 11:38, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Sorry. I've created PHP and MYSQL sites, mucked around with Ajax and HTML5 and tinkered with CSS and a tiny bit of XML but I never before took the time to deal with any wiki editing code so I'm not actually sure what the protocol to insert links (I'm guessing it's not via HTML markup as wiki markup seems more in line with BBS code than that from the tiny amount I've seen).

On the Discord thing. Discord will insist on using Recaptcha which is unintentionally unusable by the sight impaired for their visual images, (I have poor vision in only one eye) and my home PC has no sound at the moment. I managed to use the recaptcha on this site for signup because I did it on my work PC but for some reason my workplace doesn't allow me to install a gaming communication package on my work PC (Or any other programs for that matter - Odd that!)

I'm not even sure I'm adding comments right or if my sig will work a second time so I'm putting my name on this and

If you could link me to any useful pages on markup conventions, how to send messages to individuals and how to reply to discussions (if I'm doing that thing wrong here) I'd be extremely grateful.

Radyengal (Waiting for RSMobile to be released - hopefully before Half Life 3) 12:41, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

You are correctly replying to discussions. :) As for individual users, you can post on their user talk page, e.g. User talk:Salix of Prifddinas for mine. Here's a link to the editing guides: RS:EDIT. As for links just add [[ before the article you want to link to and ]] after it, like this: [[cabbage]] which will make a link to the article about cabbages. Also regarding Discord, you don't have to install the client, you can use the website. Regarding signatures, just put ~~~~ after your message and you'll be good. :) But please change your signature so it has a link to either your user page (User:Radyengal) or your user talk page (User talk:Radyengal). You can change your signature here: Special:Preferences. Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 14:04, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Archaeology items[edit source]

There should be a page for archaeology items, such as materials and mattocks. Jampolo 22:35, 4 April 2020 (UTC)