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Template[edit source]

EDIT: Earlier commented out; see my next message. dictature 17:28, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Is this template used for nominating? I think it is better if the Featuredimages template only be edited by admins for the moment.   az talk   10:12, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

The Template:Featuredimage's source code was very messy a while ago (massive amount of image options), so this was created to clean up the page. As it only includes a few different images now, I think it's obsolete. And nomination template is unneeded in my opinion. dictature 17:28, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
EDIT: Made a template for nominating. May be used if people see need for it. Example found in User:10finland01/Hiscores. (That page was useless. =P) dictature 17:35, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Semi-protection and template[edit source]

  • I've semi-protected all of the featured images, as it is featured on the Main Page. Registered users would have no problems editing the images... only IP addresses would be blocked.
  • A template has been added to each image to tell users that the image is featured on the Main Page. Feel free to edit it if required.   az talk   16:32, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
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This is a featured image.
The community has identified it as one of the finest images on the RuneScape Wiki, adding significantly to its article and deserving a spot on the Main Page.{{{subject}}}{{{desc}}}

I like the template, it's a nice touch. Air rune.png Tollerach hates SoF Fire rune.png 07:53, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Featured image template[edit source]

we should have one for the image and the page. --Joe Click Here for Awesomeness13:58, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Replacing image for template[edit source]

I think the Star Sprite face image in the template should be replaced, as the image itself is not a featured image! Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 16:04, October 3, 2009 (UTC) I am sure that you was one of the people who said a star sprite shouldn't be a feaured image when I nominated it. And you opposed against the point that it represents the featured images. Cabbage detail.png Dockywho Talk Cabbage detail.png 20:14, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Sory, I just checked and you didn't say that... my fault... Cabbage detail.png Dockywho Talk Cabbage detail.png 20:16, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Just because, the template is for featured images, it does not mean it needs a featured image. But anyway, do you have any suggestions?   az talk   10:58, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Bigger is better?[edit source]

Some people think that bigger is better. But is it really needed to upload an image thats over 1200 wide just to get it featured, because "it's bigger and has more detail"? Isn't there some kind of limit? Personally I think 800-900 wide is big enough, which is 2x as small in filesize then the bigger ones.. but still has good detail and size. Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 11:41, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

The size doesn't matter to me at all, as long as the detail and angle is good. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 15:43, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Why am I not seeing the newer featured images?[edit source]

As of 10:58, November 6, 2009 (UTC), we have 40 featured images. Is it just me, or am I seeing some images more often than others... I haven't seen some of the newer featured images. I only visit the Main Page 2-3 times per week, so I may not be a good judge of things.

The question I have is this: should we limit the number of images so that we only have n number of images? So when n=40,

  1. Simply remove the oldest nominated image (n=1) and replace with the newest successful image (n=41).
  2. Or, always nominate new images (n=41, 42,...) as replacements to other images.

Another alternative is to add a weight to the newest image, so it appears twice as often compared to the other images. See Extension:RandomSelection.

<option weight="2">This option will be shown twice as often as a normal option. (Use this only for the newest image.)</option>
<option>By default, options have a weight of 1.</option>
<option weight="1.5">This option also has a weight of 1.  Fractional portions are ignored.</option>

Thoughts?   az talk   10:58, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

I'd support having the 5 most recent additions having double the weight. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 17:45, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
I agree with Psycho_Robot here Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 13:14, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
It sounds like a good idea, just have to remember to remove the weight once it goes out of the top 5. ~MuzTalk 13:19, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Semiprotect?[edit source]

Should we semiprotect the page to prevent IPs from sockpuppeteers and the like? --

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Captain Sciz
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03:14, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Don't think so. This sort of extra precaution seems unnecessary when we haven't encountered such a problem before. C.ChiamTalk 03:20, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Image frames?[edit source]

Why is everyone removing the image frames?  Zaros symbol.png    « Iceman »      12:51, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

Fail....[edit source]

Uh because of the new year, all the 'time left' sections on the images are messed up O_o. scoot4.pngscooties 18:32, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. The countdown template didn't have year-end protection. Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 18:46, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Some thumbnails are loading too slow[edit source]

The Lumbridge Council image thumbnail (File:Lumbridge Secret Council.png) is ~220kB in size, and taking awhile to load. I think the size is over the 100kb limit in the guideline: The image file size is less than 100kb. It may be acceptable if the file size is about 100-150kb, but 220kb? ....   az talk   10:03, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

95% of the FIMG are over 100, or even 200 kb; I propose the limit be raised. sig1.png Spam me w/ lolcatsPottery statuette detail.png Is <insert name here> awesome? I don't know, let me check... 22:25, January 21, 2010 (UTC)
Smaller size thumbnails load faster. Have a look at Wikipedia's list of thumbnails (Wikipedia:Picture of the day/January 2010). The thumbnails are all less than 100kb, and yet the full images are of high quality with sizes reaching 14Mb. Why is it possible there and not here?
See this: [[w:c:how-to:How to reduce the file size of a PNG file|How to reduce the file size of a PNG file]].   az talk   06:50, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Orb of Oculus[edit source]

Is this what every single featured image should be with now? It just seems almost pointless to even try and take an image without it.

Just wondering~!

Forum moderator crown.pngFerrelShadowSlayer.png 20:11, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

It is hardly any different; I personally took some images with the orb, and some on land images, and they are hardly different. sig1.png Spam me w/ lolcatsPottery statuette detail.png Is <insert name here> awesome? I don't know, let me check... 23:11, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Nominating[edit source]

Can you nominate an image that you took yourself?  Tien  19:58, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

I think so. There is no rule saying otherwise. Unicorn horn dust.png Evil Yanks talk 23:57, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
All right. I have one in mind. =D  Tien  00:52, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Candlelight[edit source]

The nomination for Candlelight does not seem to have a nominator or be in the correct position. It should be just above Ulfric's Shipwreck. I'm not going to move it as it doesn't have a nominator, and I don't know what to do with it anyway. --Ring of kinship detail.png CaistlynTalk Contribs 16:56, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

I moved it and added a nominator. --Iiii I I I 17:05, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

consensus[edit source]

6 support, 1 neutral, 1 oppose: shouldnt that be consensus..? Third age robe top.png 3rd age farcaster Third age druidic robe top.png 17:33, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

Depends on the situation. Neutral votes is a good sign that consensus hasn't been achieved since it is justifying that both sides have good arguments. It is better to extend the nomination then to close it prematurely. Unicorn horn dust.png Evil Yanks talk 06:40, March 26, 2010 (UTC)
so why was it not extended? it didnt have nearly as much time as many other images. Third age robe top.png 3rd age farcaster Third age druidic robe top.png 14:12, March 26, 2010 (UTC)
What image are you talking about?? Unicorn horn dust.png Evil Yanks talk 04:30, March 27, 2010 (UTC)
this one Third age robe top.png 3rd age farcaster Third age druidic robe top.png 15:27, March 27, 2010 (UTC)
There was no way that could have called consensus since he had already called no consensus when he extended the nomination by a week. To call consensus in support, he would have to go back on his earlier decision. Since the neutral was leaning towards oppose and one was a weak support, it definitly wasn't as clear cut as you made it sound up the top. I personally probably would have called consensus however. If you want, there is nothing stopping you from renominating the image. Unicorn horn dust.png Evil Yanks talk 00:04, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
alright, thanks. Third age robe top.png 3rd age farcaster Third age druidic robe top.png 01:10, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Templates?[edit source]

All the nominations are in templates... When and why did this happen? Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 13:19, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

If you check the revision history, then you will see that Calebchiam did it recently. --Coolnesse 21:27, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
I think there was a YG discussion on that. And we don't call those templates, we call those subpages. bad_fetustalk 21:29, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
Even more technically; they're transclusions. Anyway, what yg? Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 10:04, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
Forum:New FIMG Format. C.ChiamTalk 10:11, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. Smile Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 10:15, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Offer to nominate[edit source]

In light of this absurdity, I will nominate upon request images which are likely of FI quality so that those editors who upload quality images need not sit on their hands and wait idly by for someone else to discover and then bother to nominate images. (wszx) 01:06, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

That is gaming the system. Do so and you will be blocked.--Degenret01 05:08, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
It's not. I provided that the images must be of likley FI quality—I don't seek to churn out self-noms if I don't think the images have a reasonable chance of being promoted. If you'd rather, just look at it as my coming across the image and nominating it because I think it's high quality. I just so happened to have come across the image by being directly noted. If you'd even rather, it's IAR because the wikia will be improved with the promotion of the image and I am ignoring silly rules which impede that. (wszx) 05:15, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
It is still gaming the system. You can just look through images more often. Also, the rules are not "silly", otherwise they would not have reached consensus; you can continue to consider them that way, but it doesn't mean you don't have to abide by them. 222 talk 10:45, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
Um, Degeneret, with all due respect, I've never known any of my images to be nominated, and while I may be blowing my own horn here, surely one of them has deserved at least to be considered. Is this a "closed shop"? --TheLastWordSword 17:16, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Nominations for delisting[edit source]

Could someone actually update the Template:Featuredimage? I saw File:Runecrafting cape (t) equipped.png on the front page still. Evidence is at the almost-bottom of this page JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 22:14, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Test nominations[edit source]

I suggest a subpage(/Test) for nominations you are not sure about if they will pass. It works very simple: Just place the image on the page, with the description and reasons and it will stay there until you abort it, or after 4 days. This would be useful imo, because without it some nominations are clearly not going to be FIMG but still have to stay on the following 5 days. This is a waste of time. We could also do that nominations that (almost) only got opposes can be stopped after 4 days, or with a request. I think it would atleast be useful to have test nominations, or an ability to abort nominations that fail at the beginning. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 12:46, October 18, 2010 (UTC) {{rfc}} JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 15:16, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

Is there something which says that you can't withdraw your nomination? Have you been stopped from doing so? Because if so I don't think that's right. You should be able to kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 21:51, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
^222 talk 21:52, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
well, ok, you can probably withdraw, but i was just trying to seperate crappy noms... Anyway, i err... withdraw this suggestion Wink JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 14:29, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Poll mismatch[edit source]

The poll excludes items, and in addition to excluding items, it adds scenery. Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't scenery and locations near identical? Do we even have a category or use in the wiki for "scenery"? Srsly, i've noted a movement towards fewer images in articles.

Personally i consider the downsizing of needless images to be a good thing as i grow sick of seeing so-called "glitch" images. Really, anyone's system can 'glitch' the rendering. If you even half understand what all is going on between the information sent over the net and how it's interpreted on the end machine and finally displayed to the end user/player/gamer/adventurer then you know what i am saying, but i digress...

Fix the poll by adding "items". As for scenery images either make them a more used part of the wiki or remove from the poll. ~kytti khat 21:28, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think the poll should be fixed indeed, but about glitch images: I think there should be a bit less stretch glitch images, but other glitches should still stay imo. But please comment on that on the Talk:Glitch page, as that is not about featured images. Thanks. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 17:10, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

Concerns[edit source]

I have some concerns with some of the criteria on the page, and would like to see other opinions on the matter.

1. Quote: "The image must be nominated by someone other than the person who uploaded the image. This does not apply to nominations for replacement or delisting." This discourages uploaders from their own nominating images, and there could be many images which may have been featured if the uploader could nominate the image. I also think it may discourage users from uploading a very good image, as they know they cannot nominate it for featured status, and it sort of defeats one of the purposes of having featured images. In addition, I fail to see why it is accepted for nominations for replacement or delisting, but not for nominations for featured status.

2. Quote: "Do not change the image while it is being voted on. - Changing an image by uploading a new version of the image, or by changing to a different file of a similar subject could void all votes made before the change, and may lead to confusion." I don't like this as it discourages people from making changes to an image which only improve it. We shouldn't be discouraging people from improving images, should we? I think this should be rephrased so as not to discourage users from editing an image.

Let's discuss. Smithing 23:32, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

I think you should go to the Yew Grove with this. Anyway, I half agree with you on one, and totally disagree on two. Changing an image mid-nomination would nullify all the votes, which should then be modified. That causes confusion. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 05:27, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
I just don't like how the quote is worded, but I guess the phrasing is acceptable. Warning people of what will happen if changes are made to an image is still sort of discouraging. I'll bring this into the yew grove later with another suggestion later. I have to say, the yew grove discussion to have this implemented is very ridiculous, even though I don't plan to upload any images myself. Smithing 11:31, April 17, 2011 (UTC)
The first rule was brought in for various reasons on this thread. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 14:57, April 18, 2011 (UTC)