RuneScape:WikiGuilds/Proposals/Project Myface

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Project Myface[edit source]

Description[edit source]

Project Myface is a simple and effective project, it goal is to change any wiki image to make it shiny, for e.g the Thok, Master of Dungeoneering gets a cool image just because he new, while the Hunting expert gets a rubbish image, our goal is to change any image to a image like that, and the project itself it verry simple, all the user needs is a orb of oculus and know how to do png images and that it, transparent isn't a essential, it just makes it look good, this project has been trailed before this attempt to give you a preview:

here you can find all the users in the project, it very easy, and we use the gallery to reduce the page loading rate, users can see one another work here, building a happy community and commenting on there images,a category may be need to store the users, so to sum it up, anyone can join, it helps you learn more about images, and it a fun and simple project that anyone can join.

--Project Myface Parsonsda Talk | Sign Here | Project Myface Project Myface 15:17, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Wiki Guild Add-ons[edit source]

Here some of the things i really hope to add if it becomes a wiki guild:

  • Help Area
  • Guides
  • Fun Area - for userboxs and fun things
  • Focus Chart (to say what area needs images)
  • hints and tips - left by all users
  • Much Much more...

Interested RuneScape Wikians (please add your name)[edit source]

  1. Riblet15 16:48, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
  2. Coelacanth0794 22:13, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Discussion[edit source]

  • Support - I don't see the point of adding my name as I'm already a user, and I love it! Smile User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 16:24, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - This is a big enough project that being a wikiguild would help it. Riblet15 16:48, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - A superb project. All the users taking part have put so much effort into their images and it really shows. It'd be great to see more users take part and have every image on the Wiki to such a high standard.   Swizz Talk   Events!   18:05, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - I think the image with the OoO (lol) looks a lot better than without it. Santa hat.png Powers38 おはようヾ(´・ω・`) 12:41, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - This project has made numerous great contributions to the wiki. I would love to see them as a guild. --Coolnesse 12:36, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose - It has the same goal as the image maintenance project. Furthermore I don't like how the project is being run currently. The way each user has a subpage with all their individual contributions listed seems too vain to me. Its not fitting in with the spirit of community contribution that I think the wiki is all about. If people want to make those on their userpages, fine, whatever. But that's not something I want to see endorsed by the wiki in the form of a project. Also, I think the name "myface" is a bit strange, and lends itself to the same type of ownership that makes me not like the subpages thing. I know that's not really what the name means, but its the impression that it gives me, and it doesn't sit right with me. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 03:44, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
I'm not necessarily in support of this proposal, but I disagree with that statement. IM is mostly for sprucing up old images, while this is for taking new pictures. We could possibly incorporate this into IM, though. ʞooɔ 03:39, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
Edit conflict. That wasn't the only reason I opposed, but I got too trigger happy and saved before posting my full thoughts. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 03:44, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
Hmmm. You're right. I oppose as well. ʞooɔ 03:49, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
Reply - i know it like that, but this is more simple, i want to introduce a sort of "starter Guild" this project is only about using the orb and good angles, this itself will help user learn, meaning they can help better, so it is similar, i'm also planing guides for the wiki guild, to help new player get started, but i see what your saying,it is similar but in it own way, different. Project Myface Parsonsda Talk | Sign Here | Project Myface Project Myface 15:31, July 5, 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - I'm already a member and I strongly support. And what pshyco said, the image maintenance project doesn't have a cool name, and isn't really that active. I say we scrap most of the images and just start over by taking new ones. Runecrafting-icon.png Stormsaw1 Talk Sign HighscoresRunecrafting-icon.png 04:50, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
The image maintenance project isn't inactive, you just think it is because the people who contribute to it don't put "FOR THE IMAGE MAINTENANCE PROJECT" in the upload summary, instead of a proper summary, and then post all their images on subpages of the RuneScape:Image Maintenance. To be honest I think this is just Prasonsda's ego prompting him to want to be the leader of his own project instead of joining a project that already exists with the same stated goals. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 04:40, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
I agree with the first part of your comment, Psycho, but just to mention it (and defend Parsonsda), he, in fact, ís a member of the IM Project. Now, you kids can continue arguing. (says a twelve-years-old boy) XD User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 19:20, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
How does that in any way negate that he's starting this project with the same goals as RS:IM just because he wants to be the leader of a project? And furthermore, tell me what exactly the point of this project is? Where is the activity in this project that the IM project doesn't have? This is not a bunch of people working together, this is a bunch of people taking their own images on their own time of whatever they feel like, then bragging about it in the same location. There's nothing wrong with doing that as you are now, in the user namespace, but it is the antithesis of everything this wiki is about. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 19:25, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
Well, that is right. You, however, oppose us as a guild, but I do think that even the opposers (of which there aren't many) share the opinion that they want the project to stay. It being a guild or not (the last one for the opposers), about 300 Wikia images would be worse without it. Now, I will try to explain the goals to you. MyFace' goal is to upload new images that are taken with the Orb of Oculus (in *.png format, with our without transparency) to replace images that are small, from the Knowledge Base, outdated, etc. The IM project, as far as I read the description, does this for example: User1 uploads an uncropped animation of the just released Zenevivia that hasn't transparency. User2 sees this and adds a few tags: it needs cropping, it needs transparency and it needs the useless animation removed. User3 applies all this in a new image that is not *.gif and User4, an admin, deletes the old image. As far as I can tell, User3 here contributes to IM. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 06:44, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
I oppose this project taking place anywhere but the user namespace. No one is questioning that your contributions to images are great, but at no point during that process would you have benefited at all from being a guild. And yes you are right that is essentially the way the IM goes. And what exactly is the difference between what occured in your IM synopsis and what would have occurred if it were Project Myface? Near as I can tell, the only difference is that User3 would have put the image he uploaded in a gallery. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 07:00, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
User3 would either leave it (if it's already taken with the OoO and it's good) or take a brand new image with the OoO (and yes, put it in a gallery Lol). User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 10:18, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose - All I can see from Myface so far is people saying, "Look what I've uploaded", and having a gallery of their contributions. I agree with Psycho that this goes against the spirit of the wiki. You haven't really provided any reason why this should be a guild. Yes, you and the rest of the Myface members have made some great contributions to the wiki. However, I'm not seeing a reason why you need a WikiGuild to continue. ʞooɔ 18:27, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
Conditional support - If all you're going to do as a WikiGuild is the same as what you've been doing as a subpage of Parsonsda's, then I don't see why you need a WikiGuild. However, if you have guides, tips and other helpful tidbits, that would be, well, helpful. Also, if you have a place where you organize things, (i.e., who takes what picture, and what pictures even need an OoO shot), that would benefit the wiki. In its current form, there's no need for a WikiGuild, but if you add in some extra things, if could be great. ʞooɔ 10:03, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
Reply - it may seem like that but my main goal is to help users learn, im planning to have guides on how to do png and transparent as well, the more players do it, the more they know about images, as well as achieving something. --Project Myface Parsonsda Talk | Sign Here | Project Myface Project Myface 07:53, July 9, 2010 (UTC)
If you can make this something that's more than a place for separate users to upload their work, I may support. You would need a way to show new users how to take their pictures et al., but you'd also need coordination, working together to decide which images to take and such. ʞooɔ 08:00, July 9, 2010 (UTC)
If the main goal is to teach, then might I recommend instead signing up to teach a lesson in the RuneScape:University of Lumbridge? kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 07:00, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
He's got a point. I've also had some ideas about that. That we do all slayer monsters first, for example. Then Parsonsda (the leader) says: "Okay, I'll do the cave bug and the aquanite, LordDarkPhantom the Skeletal Wyvern and the Kurask, Fswe1 the Jelly and the Molanisk, etc. everyone agreed? Can it be done in like 3 days? OK, good luck!" Does something like that suit you? User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 06:45, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
And why would that not be possible as members of IM? I assume you just post on Parsons' talk page, so you could just go... do that... I'm still not seeing the slightest need for a guild or the slightest bit of difference between Myface and IM apart from the galleries. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 07:00, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
Reply - My goal is to help users work together, share tips, help each other, and comment on there work, like it is now, but the wikiguild im planing will have a place users can post tips, images to do, and area for fun, a skill, it not just gonna be a image project, i want it to be a massive community project.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Parsonsda (talk).
What you're describing is precisely what the image maintenance project is for. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 23:10, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
Ya could've told that before. -.- Lol Of course, we're curious what the reward is. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 19:17, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
I recently suggested something for the Focus Chart on Parsonsda´s talk page... He hasn´t replied, however. (...) User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 11:15, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
  • Notice - i would like to make project myface as good as possible, i also have plans to involve the other wiki guilds into it, for e.g for guides they could use the wiki university stuff like that, i don't wanna it to be just another project, i want it to be a linked project, also it kinda hard to tell you what it about with all questions, but here the basic info, the project is for good angles, helping users learn about images, and reduce the amount of jpg on wiki. that all i can really say. --Project Myface Parsonsda Talk | Sign Here | Project Myface Project Myface 09:55, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
And that is exactly what the image maintenance project is for too. Just because you're not using it doesn't mean it needs to be replaced. Instead of devoting all your effort to starting a new project, why not take you and your followers and rekindle the image maintenance project? Its already got a huge established user base. You could accomplish much more by revitalizing that project than by starting your own with a tiny fraction of the users. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 19:45, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
  • Support A lot of images are getting better because of this project. RS:IM is mainly making images transparent, cropping, and has less quality in images. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 14:08, July 27, 2010 (UTC) PS: Maybe IM project should get the advise that an OoO should be used, as it gives MUCH better images. that's also why Myface is good.
RuneScape:Image Maintenance is a project dedicated to improving the images on the RuneScape Wiki by updating outdated images, applying transparency, and replacing low-quality images with higher quality images
--Aburnett(Talk) 19:16, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment - If this project is not going to be a WikiGuild project, will it be deleted, or stay as non-wikiguild project? JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 13:38, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
It will remain in the userspace as a non-wikiguild project. C.ChiamTalk 13:55, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
It'll be exactly as it is right now. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 22:11, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Closed - Proposal is denied. Those who have supported have supported for a variety of reasons that do nothing to identify exactly why they feel this project would benefit from being a guild. In addition, the outcome of Forum:Greater detail image template removes any doubt that this project is a duplicate of the Image Maintenance Guild. As such, Project Myface will not be an official guild, and any discussions and activites which would have taken place on RuneScape talk:Project Myface should instead by placed on RuneScape talk:Image Maintenance. [eagerly awaits the influx of posts by Parsonsda who needed a page in the project namespace so badly and who now has one to use] kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 04:31, August 2, 2010 (UTC)