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Outdated information box[edit source]

How do you get the heading box about outdated information? Sorry if this is in the wrong place if its an admin tool. Edmyg 15:17, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Put {{Obsolete}} at the top of the outdated article. (: sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 15:38, May 13, 2011 (UTC)
Ta Edmyg 16:04, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

What's wrong with this code?[edit source]

{{#switch:{{{changetype|}}}|positive = 
|negative =

It's supposed to work as a table-line sort of thing with User:Matthew2602/RuneScape/Logs/Money/Table header, and the table works, but I can't get the background colours to display. Thanks. Matt 00:05, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Never mind, it's working now. Matt 00:57, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Which program to use to record music tracks & instructions?[edit source]

As title says, can someone explain to me which program should I use to record music tracks, plus instructions to do it correctly? Thanks. --Habblet (talk|c) 17:13, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

You can use Audacity, I'll write a guide shortly. ɳex undique 22:10, May 12, 2011 (UTC)
Okay, I realized I suck at writing guides, but here is a small one. If a video or pictures would make it easier, just tell me. Sorry if it's confusing or bad. ɳex undique 22:46, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, man. Easy guides, with simple steps. That's what I like! ^_^ --Habblet (talk|c) 12:45, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Calling all JS monkeys![edit source]

The taskbar, you know, that brown floating bar at the bottom of your screen, has expanding menus on it naturally. I'm wondering if it is possible to replicate those, and if it is, can I have the code? Thanks. Matt 06:49, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not a JS guy, but I suggest you don't do that. Ryan told me a quite a few months ago that dropdown bars/expanding menus using JS will increase page loading times by a significant margin, don't take my word for this, probably best to check with a coder. 222 talk 06:52, May 5, 2011 (UTC)
Brown floating bar? If you're talking about the one inside RS, which isn't JS, tempering with that is against RS rules. I'm not sure what other brown bars there are. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 18:52, May 5, 2011 (UTC)
That bar. Matt 04:52, May 7, 2011 (UTC)
Oh, I see, I started using monobook after they removed that other skin, because I consider the new Wikia-skin to be wasting width. It's probably something with onHover events. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 19:40, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Add the following to the list of toolbar links you already have:

	$('<style type="text/css">.showdropdown {display:none;} .dropdownhover:hover .showdropdown {display:block !important;}</style>').appendTo('head');
	$('<li class="dropdownhover"><div style="position:absolute;height:25px;width:50px;right:auto;bottom:0px;"></div>Menu 2<ul id="toolbardropdown2" class="showdropdown tools-menu" style="right:auto;bottom:22px;"><li class="overflow"><a href="/wiki/firstlinkpage">firstlinktext</a></li><li class="overflow"><a href="/wiki/secondlinkpage">secondlinktext</a></li><li class="overflow"><a href="/wiki/thirdlinkpage">thirdlinktext</a></li></ul></li>').appendTo('');

and in <li class="overflow"><a href="/wiki/secondlinkpage">secondlinktext</a>, replace the secondlinkpage and secondlinktext with the actual url and text. Add more of them to get more links. I hope it helps. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 18:22, May 20, 2011 (UTC)
Also in that code, the <div style="position:absolute;height:25px;width:50px;right:auto;bottom:0px;"> has width:50px; in it, which needs to be changed depending on the text you are going to have as "dropdown button", so that it changes along with that. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 04:03, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Template:Extimage[edit source]

Is there any way to change the way the width portion of this template works? Instead of changing the actual width of the image, it changes the seeing field. I can't find any other way to properly resize non-uploaded images... sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 01:57, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

I requested the necessary change. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 13:00, June 3, 2011 (UTC)
It works now. And doing <span class="extimage" style="width:100px">imageurl</span> would resize the image to 100px width too. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 15:51, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Suggestions[edit source]

Anyone who has suggestions for the name of the to-be-merged article here, please suggest. Thanks, 222 talk 05:08, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

2009 & 2010 Thanksgiving event. Matt 06:18, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

What Matthew2602 said, although instead of "&" I think "and" would be more appropriate. Smithing (talk | contribs) 06:28, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Lol Matt 06:35, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Symbols would mess with the url and such, otherwise I'd say 2009/2010 Thanksgiving event. "and" works out best probably. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 22:26, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

"2009/2010 Thanksgiving event" would make it a subpage of 2009, so "2009 and 2010 Thanksgiving event" would be best. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 23:43, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Decided - I closed the discussion, and we will just call the new article 2009 and 2010 Thanksgiving event, as I doubt someone's going to brainstorm up some other genius idea. I'll see if I can write the article now, or else someone else can do it. Cheers, Chicken7 >talk 12:56, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

I merged it. :) Chicken7 >talk 13:26, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Weird picture glitch[edit source]

I added a pic with trasparency and then it wasn't trasparent. Then someone linked to it and it was. I am confused. No one else changed the picture or added anything to it. Ulmuchiha 21:29, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

It's an upload bug that we've been experiencing for a while. Suppa chuppa Talk 21:30, June 7, 2011 (UTC)
so how do I fix it? should I try relinking it or something? Ulmuchiha 22:23, June 7, 2011 (UTC)
You can't. We can only wait for the bug to be fixed. ɳex undique 22:26, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

How do I go to a random page[edit source]

there used to be a link somewhere but I can't find it  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ulmuchiha (talk).

Special:Random Suppa chuppa Talk 03:16, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
thank you Ulmuchiha 03:18, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
There's a link to the top right of the page, just above the search bar. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 07:24, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Comparing items[edit source]

Anyone know why some items are shown to have missing stats when comparing even when the stats are filled in. See Ranger hat for an example. I tried to figure out how compare works but can't even find what page it uses. Both affected and unaffected items seem to be using the same template {{Infobox Bonuses}}, but the compare box isn't in that template as far as I can tell. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 05:51, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Despite the fact I couldn't find anything related in Infobox Bonuses, the quest is raised and answered on its talk page Template_talk:Infobox_Bonuses, if I come across any I will try to fix them using the suggested methods. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 06:01, June 11, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I was pretty sure I'd answered this previously. The image and caption stuff have to go at the bottom. Suppa chuppa Talk 06:02, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Merging Beacon Network into All Fired Up (activity)[edit source]

RuneScape:Requests for merging/All Fired Up (activity) was closed with consensus to merge. Unfortunately I don't know much about the Beacon network, so I am hoping someone with more knowledge will be able to merge these two articles together, better than if I were to attempt to. Note that Beacon Network is to be merged into All Fired Up (activity) (and redirected there of course). Thanks, 222 talk 06:01, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

... Suppa chuppa Talk 06:02, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
If you don't know enough about it, just don't close it. Simple. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 11:18, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
I beg your pardon. Part of my role as an administrator is to find consensus in discussions and close them appropriately; never did it say I must also be an expert at the topic at hand. Also, it was well within my means to merge the two articles together if I so wished, but I chose the ask for an "expert" on this topic to ensure that the information being merged was helpful and fully accurate. Curt comments like you posted do not help at all with this request, nor do they reflect entirely well upon yourself. 222 talk 11:34, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
Or you could just wait for someone who does know enough about it to show up before closing. Last time this kind of thing happened, at the Skeleton's RfS, it was forgotten about quite soon. To prevent this from happening, the closing admin should just merge/split the articles himself, or wait for another admin to close it (unless they have already found someone to do it). Implementing the proposal or making sure the proposal is implemented is part of closing threads. That also applies to RfM/RfS. (unless of course the proposal is a wiki-wide change, in which case everyone should do it, but you get what I mean) JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 16:39, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
Firstly, a large amount of the Skeleton page problem was my fault and not the closing admin's (due to me splitting and not being able to finish, and then not presenting the problem of unfinished work through a medium such as this here page). It is not and should not be an admin's job to implement a proposal. Their job is simply to make a decision, and to archive the discussion page. There is absolutely no reason why someone with admin tools should have to split a page, unless you believe in some sort of hierarchical supremacy. It has always seemed to me that large number of proposals in the non-yew grove discussions have been left for too long because those making the consensus decision don't yet want the hassle of implementing it. In these cases, had the decision just been made, it could have been implemented by someone else sooner, which would be likely be more efficient. In fact I myself have split pages that had quite obvious consensus to so with a long time left without discussion, simply because the way you think things should work was taking far too long. It would not be unreasonable to come to a decision on a discussion and then leave that discussion open until implemented. Instead, people feel the need to immediately archive something after the decision is made.
Regarding this particular case - Mr Brains was well placed to make a decision on what should be implemented, but did not feel completely comfortable with the information involved. This is not unreasonable. It is entirely possible that other admins feel the same way. Whilst it would certainly be better if the person making the decision also implements it, it is still better that the decision is made rather than just being left. This opens up other users, such as those proposing the merge, to implement it, rather than just leaving it for admins. I can say, personally, that I would happily have implemented a number of these split/merge things had this been done. Additionally, the idea that this will be forgotten about when it is placed on a page such as User help seems completely redundent.
Weekly word count reached, double points for repetitive use of "decision", BOOOOOM, --Henneyj 23:23, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

O..Kay.. so is someone going to do it? ^-^ sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 23:01, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Last I checked they already were merged. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 06:15, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

New Editor[edit source]

When I "Preview" with the new editor, the little javascript preview window that pops up extends way far out to the right, past the lightbox. Any way to fix this please? (: sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 15:46, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

..Also, it was a little nice to be able to double click the summary line to get a list of your most commonly used summaries with the late editor. This one doesn't seem to have that luxury.... Any ideas? sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 16:00, July 2, 2011 (UTC)
You've used CSS to widen the content page, correct? 222 talk 01:27, July 3, 2011 (UTC)
I pretty much just copy and paste what Joey tells me to. (: There isn't much. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 05:30, July 3, 2011 (UTC)
In that case you'll probably want to copy-paste a bit more. This time from my css :D 222 talk 05:32, July 3, 2011 (UTC)
Should I just pretend like I know how to decipher all that? :P I don't see what would be relevant to this. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 05:34, July 3, 2011 (UTC)
lol, sry. You'll probably want the following:
/* Fixing preview box size*/
.modalWrapper.preview { width: 1020px !important; }

Tell me if it doesn't work. 222 talk 05:44, July 3, 2011 (UTC)

That seems to have worked, thank you ^-^ sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 05:47, July 3, 2011 (UTC)
No problem :) 222 talk 05:49, July 3, 2011 (UTC)

Moar Wikia Editor[edit source]

When reviewing the differences between edits, there is no longer a link to go back to viewing the page normally without the differences. It disappeared D:. Is there any code I could get added to my css/js for it, or anything we can fix in MediaWiki? sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 04:42, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Just clicking the article tab in the top left works for me. I'm using monobook though, so it may be different. As far as URL is concerned, remove the diff and oldid paramaters and it should work. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 20:21, July 5, 2011 (UTC)
I don't use monobook, there is no way to go back (that I've found) except for changing the link, which is silly. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 22:47, July 5, 2011 (UTC)
You should be able to click the link with the article name positioned to the right of the logo. 222 talk 01:12, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
Umm, the toolbar is right of the logo. The page name is under the logo but that isn't a link. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 01:14, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

That isn't clickable? 222 talk 01:29, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

It is, but I said "when reviewing the differences between edits". Not when generally editing. (: sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 01:31, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Orite. IT ISN'T THERE :O. I second the call for css/js. 222 talk 01:44, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
*cough*Monobook*cough* Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 03:36, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
Seems that Wikia has fixed it. (: sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 03:16, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Move[edit source]

Can someone move the following pages so they have a more descriptive title? The images are not linked to avoid red links.

  1. File:A Void Dance.png to File:A Void Dance reward scroll.png
  2. File:Aguildofourown.png to File:A Guild of Our Own reward scroll.png
  3. File:Allcompleted.png to File:All Fired Up reward scroll.png
  4. File:BetweenARockDone.png to File:Between a Rock... reward scroll.png
  5. File:Blackknightsfortressqc.png to File:Black Nights' Fortress reward scroll.png
  6. File:Court Cases EVIL DAVE vs The People Prosecution.png to File:EVIL DAVE vs The People Prosecution reward scroll.png
  7. File:ElemWkshp1.png to File:Elemental Workshop I reward scroll.png
  8. File:Ernest the chicken.png to File:Ernest the Chicken reward scroll.png
  9. File:Ew2 reward.png to File:Elemental Workshop II reward scroll.png
  10. File:FNSQR.PNG to File:Fur 'n' Seek reward scroll.png
  11. File:Gertrudes Cat quest.png to File:Gertrude's Cat reward scroll.png
  12. File:Ghosty.png to File:Ghost Ahoy reward scroll.png
  13. File:Glorious Memories miniq.png to File:Glorious Memories reward scroll.png
  14. File:Goblin Diplomacy.PNG to File:Goblin Diplomacy reward sroll.png
  15. File:Gunnarground.png to File:Gunnar's Ground reward scroll.png
  16. File:Inpyreneed.png to File:In Pyre Need reward scroll.png
  17. File:Lost her Marbles.png to File:Lost Her Marbles reward scroll.png
  18. File:Making historyHD.PNG to File:Making History reward scroll.png
  19. File:Merlin's Crystal.PNG to File:Merlin's Crystal reward scroll.png
  20. File:Mountaindaughter.png to File:Mountain Daughter reward scroll.png
  21. File:Mugger Court Case.png to File:Mugger vs Roger Murray reward scroll.png
  22. File:Questtzhaar.png to File:TokTz-Ket-Dill reward scroll.png
  23. File:Recruitmentdriveqc.png to File:Recruitment Drive reward scroll.png
  24. File:Rewardkhazardd.png to File:Fight Arena reward scroll.png
  25. File:Romeo & Juliet.png to File:Romeo & Juliet reward scroll.png
  26. File:SpiritofSummerQuest.png to File:Spirit of Summer reward scroll.png
  27. File:Tears of Guthix.png to File:Tears of Guthix reward scroll.png
  28. File:The Gravedigger vs The People Prosecution.png to File:The Gravedigger vs The People reward scroll.png
  29. File:The Sandwich Lady vs The People Prosecution.png to File:The Sandwich Lady vs The People Prosecution reward scroll.png
  30. File:Ups.PNG to File:Hunt for Red Raktuber reward scroll.png
  31. File:Vampire Slayer.png to File:Vampire Slayer reward scroll.png
  32. File:W01cif.png to File:The Temple at Senntisten reward scroll.png
  33. File:Zcreenshot107.png to File:The Curse of Arrav reward scroll.png

Thank you. Smithing (talk | contribs) 20:25, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

There is supposed to be a bot in the making that will move all file names to their appropriate names. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 20:28, July 17, 2011 (UTC)
Moved them all. This is indeed supposed to be done by a bot though, so if you could find someone to make that bot that'd be great. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 20:42, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Making Calculators[edit source]

Hey, i want to start trying to make calculators in excell then hopefully getting them onto here, but i have no clue how to get prices, so please could someone explain how to do it.

Thanks Sam

to display the item's price (in this case 'Cake') like this -> 887 Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 03:36, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks but i take it that only works on RS wiki what about in excel? I tried using vlookup but it doesnt work on the rs website


If you're gonna end up putting them on here, why figure out how to make them in Excel? I don't think there is a way, the prices on the ge are in a database, so you'd need the login details for that database to get them. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 18:36, July 7, 2011 (UTC)
very true but i don't have a clue how to make them on here :L any help?
I know there are many calculators in existence, I've never made one, but if I were to make one, I'd take a peek at those that went before me. Click calculators in advanced search. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 22:09, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
I have a guide here, it should be at least a little help. Feel free to ask me about anything you don't understand. Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 22:13, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the tip and the guide reading it now :)

High alchemy prices[edit source]


atm im working on the high alchemy calculator now i have the question is it possible to automaticly pick this amount of money u get.

like the code for the G.E. price : {{:Exchange:Mithril dagger|View=price}}

thnx C0ws  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by C0ws (talk) on 16:20, 28 May 2011 (UTC).

Lol at marking your own comment as unsigned (you can sign by using ~~~~). Anyway, I don't think there is such a thing since every item requires filling in the alchemy values on their own page atm. It may be an idea for a project but I think it would be a lot more work to make than the use you'd get out of it, since alchemy values don't change and aside from those calculators and the item's own page I don't think they are used anywhere. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 16:21, May 29, 2011 (UTC)
222 marked it as unsigned. Anyway, for high alch you would use {{:Exchange:Mithril dagger|View=HighAlch}} and for low alch it's {{:Exchange:Mithril dagger|View=LowAlch}}. --Saftzie (talk) 17:58, May 29, 2011 (UTC)
Why aren't we using those in infoboxes then? Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 18:28, May 29, 2011 (UTC)
Looking at the code in Template:Infobox Item I think it could be used in those boxes with a few simple changes, this would ensure that the GEMW includes alchemy prices, cause they will be fed from the infoboxes. However, any edit to the template requires consensus first on its talk page so I will raise the question there as well. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 18:41, May 29, 2011 (UTC)
If anything, it should be the other way around, to use the Exchange info in the infoboxes. There's already enough vandalism and cluelessness in the Main space articles. It's better not to have it propagate to the Exchange space. --Saftzie (talk) 18:50, May 29, 2011 (UTC)
Also, your proposal would be better in the Yew Grove than on a talk page. --Saftzie (talk) 18:51, May 29, 2011 (UTC)
I did mean the Exchange values would be included on the infoboxes, but the boxes have a link to the Exchange pages. Example, more people check Mithril dagger than Exchange:Mithril dagger. And I might start a Yew Grove page on it as well if the talk page remains silent, last time I started a YG thread though they said I should try the associated talk page first so I went with that. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 19:20, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Avoiding wanted pages[edit source]

Anyone know how to avoid a page from appearing on wanted pages when it does not exist using code similar to this:
If I were to remove Signatures/Tharkon then it would appear on the wanted pages, as can be seen here. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 17:17, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Nope, ifexist will treat it like a wanted page/red link IIRC. Makes sense, you want that page if it exists. Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 17:20, June 1, 2011 (UTC)
To solve this, use {{subst:#ifexist:Template:Signatures/DeadDemon}} instead. It checks if the page exists only at the time of saving the page, preventing it to appear in the wanted pages (as the code after saving would not include #ifexist then). This is only for specific situations, so not for templates that need to check for this. Templates should either use {{{{{|safesubst:}}}#ifexist:...}} or just normal {{#ifexist:}}. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 19:22, June 1, 2011 (UTC)
I think Tharkon was interested more specifically what to do with users who sign their posts with signatures that never existed. If they don't have a signature page (because maybe they're clueless), they're even less likely to manually type in the subst expression. Unless there's a way to administratively edit their preferences to include the subst expression as their signature, I think the only thing to do is follow around after them and replace all their dead signatures with a simple user page reference like the default signature. --Saftzie (talk) 01:14, June 2, 2011 (UTC)
...or tell them to change their prefs to include subst: in it JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 10:25, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

I got sort of a portfolio page with signatures I made, and to keep track of if the user ended up using that signature. I thought {{#ifexist:}} would be enough to avoid wanted pages until I noticed one appearing on there a few days ago. {{#subst:}} wouldn't work in this case either. The problem is caused by signatures that were requested but never put in use. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 20:05, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

A way to fix 'wikitable sortable' for what seems to be problem with negatives?[edit source]

When sorting a table the has decimal values, for examples, these values I made up:

{-0.5, -0.8, -1.2, -1.3, -1.4, -2.1, -2.2} (which, if you've noticed, is already in the correct order)

Upon trying to sort this column, it will sort it like so:

{-0.8, -0.5, -1.4, -1.3, -1.2, -2.2, -2.1}

If this is a value like GP/XP, it translates to: base value - cheaper - pricier - cheaper - cheaper - pricier - cheaper || Which doesn't seem to be a logical way to sort a collumn like Gp/xp

Many examples of this can be found under a lot of the articles linked from Calculators

Is there a way the table can corretly sort these? Seems to only happen with negatives Godel 22:25, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

The calculator articles suffer from people wanting to use coin graphics (or comments) in the cell with the number, which confuses the sort. Creating a table that has only the numbers you list works for me. --Saftzie (talk) 23:29, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
Positive values are still sorted right even with the coins image. But even without the decimal values, negative values are sorted in reverse order as if positive but always lower than all positive values. So -2, -5, -8, 0, 2, 5, 8. It seems the problem only occurs with negative values with coins images and only in the decimal part. They are sorted but according to some strange logic. The coins image would have been a good explanation if this caused the value to not be sorted at all, or to be sorted in the order of presentation. The decimal part is sorted correctly, while the non-decimal part is sorted in reverse as can be seen below.
Prepending sort key
from Coins
Value with
a comment
0 0 {{ntsh|0}} 0 0, Row, row, row your boat
-2.2 −2.2 {{ntsh|-2.2}} -2.2 -2.2, Gently down the stream
-0.5 −0.5 {{ntsh|-0.5}} -0.5 -0.5, Merrily, merrily, merrily
-1.4 −1.4 {{ntsh|-1.4}} -1.4 -1.4, Life is but a dream
-2.1 −2.1 {{ntsh|-2.1}} -2.1 -2.1, Row, row, row your boat
-1.3 −1.3 {{ntsh|-1.3}} -1.3 -1.3, Gently down the stream
-0.8 −0.8 {{ntsh|-0.8}} -0.8 -0.8, Merrily, merrily, merrily
-1.2 −1.2 {{ntsh|-1.2}} -1.2 -1.2, Life is but a dream
Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 22:52, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, there we go. As you can see when the table is sorted, it's not sorted in the correct order in either direction. Mathmatically, the problem is that it's wanting to treat the negatives like positives even though they're not. Is the wikitable sortable something we have access to the sourcecode of to change, or more internal than that? And who can fix it if so? Godel 12:24, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
I've added a few columns to illustrate my previous point. More explicitly stated, any time you add anything, as in anything at all, to a cell with a number in it, it is no longer treated as a number. The entire cell contents are treated as a string and sorted lexically rather than numerically. Try it with your favorite spreadsheet program. You'll get identical behavior. --Saftzie (talk) 16:58, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
I see, and lexically, - comes before any number. It does not explain why -0.8 comes before -0.5 though. Since even lexically those should be the other way around. Of course I tried it in a spreadsheet. And guess it differs, cause my spreadsheet program sorts - after numbers, but before letters. It also sorts 8 after 5 as any should. So sorting lexically would only cause negative numbers to be sorted in reverse, as if they were positive, yet still separately from actual positive numbers, and depending on the program either before or after positive numbers. This is not what the table shows when using negative non-integers. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 07:14, June 19, 2011 (UTC)
Using {{Coins}} before the number is included in the string. Compare the column that uses {{Coins}} and show a graphic with the one I created that just uses the hidden text and the number (Prepending sort key from Coins). You're assuming that {{Coins}} always prepends the same string. It doesn't. --Saftzie (talk) 08:26, June 19, 2011 (UTC)
Aside of the -2.2 and -2.1 values all the images are identical as far as I can see. But if this is just how the sorting works, I vote for removing the images from calculators that benefit from correctly sorted values, or moving the image to the right, which would require an adjusted version of {{Coins}} either trough a separate page or by feeding it a parameter. Compare:

{|class="wikitable" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 125px;" |{{t|User:Tharkon/Research|20}}||{{User:Tharkon/Research|20}} |- |{{t|User:Tharkon/Research|20|right}}||{{User:Tharkon/Research|20|right}} |}

Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 14:42, June 21, 2011 (UTC)
Get over how the images look. The column labeled "Prepending sort key from Coins" doesn't have any images, but it has the same sort order as the column that does. --Saftzie (talk) 18:32, June 21, 2011 (UTC)
To be honest, I don't really have any clue what {{Ntsh}} does. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 11:49, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

How does the rarity of item drops work?[edit source]

Is there a total drop log that i can add to? Example: Vyrewatch corpse drop rarity. I have been buring for awhile, and wish to start a drop log. Can i add that to the wiki somehow? Any help would be nice. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by God vivec1 (talk) on 06:54, 26 June 2011 (UTC).

We put drop logs on monster articles for items that that monster, as long with the rarity of that item being dropped by that monster, and the quantity of that item that that monster drops. We do have no "total drop logs" as such, but that doesn't sound like such a bad idea. There is a entry for the Vyre Corpse on the Vyrewatch article though. If you have any more questions you can put them here or on my talk page. =D Matt 06:59, June 26, 2011 (UTC)
What I think God vivec1 meant is if the rarity on monster drops is calculated somehow, which it isn't, as shown in this example line from the Vyre corpse article: {{DropsLine|Name=Gold charm|Quantity=1|Rarity=Common|gemw=no|Image=Gold charm.png}}. As for starting a drop log, you can start one on a subpage of your userpage, like User:God vivec1/Vyre drops or User:God vivec1/Drop logs/Vyrewatch if you intend to make a lot of them, with an index on User:God vivec1/Drop logs. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 16:33, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

The Compatability Between Monobook and My User Pages...[edit source]

Andorin pointed out that my pages look absolutely ghastly on Monobook, and that they also take up too much space... Here's a link of how my talk page appears on it. He suggested that I find a way to make it so it'll fit within the margins, and the problem I need solving is how to make it fit within the margins of Monobook and still make it appear the way it is on Oasis. Any help? S T Y G 06:14, July 3, 2011 (UTC)

Fixed the sidebar, however you'll have to change the position of that banner. Sorry I didn't look at it sooner. Cheers, Ryan PM 19:08, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Filename Bot[edit source]

I was under the impression that this thread passed on the notion that there was already a bot in-the-making. Unfortunately the person developing the bot has decided they don't want to any more. Therefore, we need someone else to develop this bot to follow through with the thread and get these file names fixed. Any takers? (: sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 20:53, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

I would if I had any idea how Wikibots work, but I have not. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 18:01, July 18, 2011 (UTC)
User:KolakCC expressed interest in it a while ago, so I posted a notice on his page asking if he could do it. ɳex undique 20:13, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

Stump article list?[edit source]

I'm new to RSW and want to help expand 'stump' articles, but I was wondering if there was such thing as a 'stumped article finder"????

Yup, if you go to Category:Stubs there is a list of all of them. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 10:31, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Rs avatar-> wiki[edit source]

I want my rs avatar to be my wiki avatar (ik u can do that but how)

And is it possible to have your body avatar in personal infoboxes?Defence-icon.png99 i fail Attack-icon.png 18:15, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Save your RS avatar image on your computer, then go to Special:Preferences and scroll down to the Avatar section, then upload the image from there. You can have personal images on your userspace as long as you upload them on an offsite image hosting website, such as Imageshack or Photobucket, per RS:NOT#HOST. More information can be found there. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 19:40, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks I'll do that a little later.Defence-icon.png99 i fail Attack-icon.png 20:10, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Guest Book & Treasure Trail Log[edit source]

I would like to add both to my Userpage, but I'm not sure how to do either. I'm not even sure what a Treasure Trail Log is supposed to look like. If it could be done easily, I'd like it to show all my rewards per difficulty of clue. Thanks for the help! Kaoskiller1 Slayer-icon.png 06:39, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

I will help you on your talk page. (: sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 20:29, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Need hex/rgb color[edit source]

I need the hex/rgb color for the color inside a certain userbox. You can see it on the left side in the "About Me In-game" section of my userpage.Defence-icon.png99 i fail Attack-icon.png 20:59, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

If you mean this one
green = {{Userbox
|border-c = black
|border-s = 1
|id-c = #00FF00
|id-s = 12
|id-fc = #fff
|info-c = #D0F0C0
|info-s = 8
|info-fc = black
|id = [[File:Green dye.PNG]]
|info = {{{content|This user's favourite colour is green, the colour of nature.}}}}}
then I'd say it's 00FF00, but you didn't specify which userbox, and you have a zillion of them. --Saftzie (talk) 21:34, August 11, 2011 (UTC)
Sorry I mean the infobox with my full body picture.Defence-icon.png99 i fail Attack-icon.png 22:16, August 11, 2011 (UTC)
The light manila color that surrounds you is FFF8DC. --Saftzie (talk) 23:25, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

That's not it. I mean the whiteish gray color, not the one that surrounds me in the picture. My fault.Defence-icon.png99 i fail Attack-icon.png 00:04, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

The left-hand column in the user infobox is #F2F2F2. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 00:20, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Its not perfect perfect, but I don't wanna be nitpicky. I have two more problems that I'll ask in another section.Defence-icon.png99 i fail Attack-icon.png 00:39, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

"Back to page" link (again)[edit source]

The "back to page" link is missing from non-mainspace pages. It isn't there when viewing the history or differences between revisions within my userspace. ): sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 05:39, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

It seems this and many other layout problems I've seen posted here don't affect the Monobook version (which has a far more efficient page layout anyway). I experience what you mentioned in the Wikia skin as well though. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 17:51, August 17, 2011 (UTC)
Erm... you don't really need it. You can just click on the tabs (Profile, talk page, etc) at the top of the page. --Henneyj 03:36, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
Looks like it's been fixed (again). And that doesn't work for subpages Henney. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 16:56, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Bots[edit source]


I'm thinking about getting a bot (doing the application thingy), but I don't know if I know enough about bots in general to put it through. I'd like some help to find out...

  • How to program them
  • How to make a bot work in IRC (I.e., Evilbot)
  • Where else I can find general information on bots

All help would be appreciated :D Adam SavageTalk 23:17, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

So you should clarify that you mean a wiki bot, because the other kind will get you banned. --Saftzie (talk) 03:11, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

It depends on what you want it to do. An easy IRC bot to work with is lizardbot. For wikibots, look it up on Meta. svco4bY.png3Gf5N2F.png 03:25, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Chat ban[edit source]

heyy errm i got kick from the chat for no reason i just joined the website and they kick me for doing nothing...  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by BILLYB299 (talk).

You'll have to be more specific. Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 18:09, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Aged log[edit source]

Would someone please go to the Ancient Caverns and upload a picture of an Aged log? Thanks, 中亚人/中亞人 (Chinasian/Jeffwang16) 跟我谈话 00:16, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Was hard picking an angle without players in the image but I made one. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 10:47, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Charm logs[edit source]

I've been adding to the charm logs, but I'm not sure if I'm doing it right. When I click "add to log" I fill in all the information such as kills and amounts of charm. In the log I then see one row with what appears to be a total, and one row with my entry.

Does the total automatically get updated so that it reflects on the monster page, or should I be doing something? Will my added row always stay in the log, because for both monsters I added, Ice Warrior and Scorpion, my rows seemed the only entries and yet there is a much bigger total than just my entry obviously. Can somebody tell me how these logs work and if I'm doing the right thing?

TalysShade 12:01, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Charm logs work like this:
  1. An editor (e.g. you) adds their kills to the submissions page.
  2. Other editors may check to ensure it is not vandalism.
  3. Regularily, a wiki-bot runs through all the submission pages, and moves all the legitimate entries to the actual charm log. The entries on the submissions page are then removed.

Hope this helps, 222 talk 12:47, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

RS Wiki Event Notifier[edit source]

I was on your site and I saw this event thing to the bottom left. I find really, really cool. Would you be able to send me to code for this?

 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) on 14:30, 17 September, 2011 (UTC).

Not sure what you are referring to as I don't see anything in the bottom left in either skin. But I suggest just checking the sourcecode of the page. (Ctrl+U in Firefox, Or View Source in the View menu in Internet Explorer) Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 19:55, September 17, 2011 (UTC)
The code is here: User:Suppa chuppa/bubble.js.
Basically what it does is gets the content from the message page ([[MediaWiki:Communitymessages-notice-msg]]) where admins can add a message and then displays the message in the bubble. If there's a specific part of the code that you want to use, just ask. Suppa chuppa Talk 19:56, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Calcs seem to not be working.[edit source]

This calculator isn't working, and I have no idea how to fix it. I'm hoping that someone else will know what's wrong and what to do :) ajr 18:42, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

User help would probably be a better place... sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 06:34, September 19, 2011 (UTC)
Seems to work for me Blue partyhat.png Sean DrzewieckiBlue partyhat.png 20:03, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Span Classes[edit source]

I'm having a problem with two span classes, hover and show. Is it possible to hover over one thing and then the words/File that shows, can you hover over that to make something else appear? (I'll clarify more if needed) Hair 11:36, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

You can't do that, sorry. (I'll clarify more if needed Ok) JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 13:37, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Nex[edit source]

Could someone please have a look at Talk:Nex#Nex page sections? JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 13:32, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Wikia Game Calendar[edit source]

Code to get rid of it please? <3 sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 16:58, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

I've added it to MediaWiki:Common.css Suppa chuppa Talk 17:00, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
This was rolled out to all gaming wikis. Thus, I wonder what Wikia will be thinking once they see their link to Amazon's site (the links that say pre-order, it's like more money for them) that is potentially lost with this addition to the CSS. Not that I don't mind it being gone, just saying that it might be back if Wikia has anything to say about it. Personally, I'd like to add the BTS things to it, but doesn't seem possible at this moment. Ryan PM 06:39, October 28, 2011 (UTC)
Game Calendar? Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 11:55, October 28, 2011 (UTC)
It was removed, but you can see it on the [[w:c:callofduty:Special:WikiActivity|CoD Wiki]] if you don't have your css set to remove it. It's on the right side above the chat box. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 17:24, October 28, 2011 (UTC)
I actually don't even see a chatbox, but if it's removed anyway, I won't worry about it. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 11:43, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Exchange varieties template[edit source]

The coding for Template:Exchange varieties|Exchange varieties seems to have been messed with, as it is not working correctly (Check this page for what it looks like). I did not find this, Fearthe1337 found it and posted on the Chat, So I posted it here. Thanks. Twigy (Talk) AbXjFjD.png 07:46, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

I've undone some of the "messing with" so pages that use the template shouldn't be garbage. It still needs a little work, though, and I'm not going to put any thought into it tonight. --Saftzie (talk) 08:23, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
Sorry for this, I fixed it now, so everything should be fine now. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 12:43, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

Script[edit source]

I just made User:Joeytje50/monstercalc.js, but after trying it in the Wikia skin, it seems like that skin just doesn't load the entire script. The problem is not that IE doesn't support it, because loading the script afterwards (pressing F12 then clicking on the "console" tab and entering importScript('User:Joeytje50/monstercalc.js')) does work normally. Could someone please check if the script does work for you when putting importScript('User:Joeytje50/monstercalc.js') in your wikia.js and then going to a monster page, for example Chicken. If it doesn't work (there should appear a small input box before the " 12 xp (and 4 Constitution experience)" in the "Experience for killing" table row), please try activating the script using the F12 method, and tell me if that does work. Thanks in advance, JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 20:42, October 25, 2011 (UTC)

It works for me. Do you want a picture of how it looks? ɳex undique 21:10, October 25, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for testing =D but no, I don't need a pic, I also know it works (does work in monobook + IE for me), the problem is just that it doesn't load in IE in Wikia skin. I checked it at school too, and it doesn't load there either. I tested it on my own wiki though, and it does load in IE + Wikia skin when placed in [[MediaWiki:Common.js]], so apparently there is no problem. (so the problem was that IE does load the script, just doesn't activate it when placed in /wikia.js) Thanks for testing it though. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 10:10, October 26, 2011 (UTC)
I put in the script in the wikia.js page and then tried it in in Firefox and IE with both the Wikia and Monobook skins, and only when using the Wikia skin in Firefox and hitting Ctrl+F5 do I see a checkbox and an inputbox with a 1 in it next to Experience for Killing and just the inputbox with Slayer XP. Talk to meTHARKONMy adventurer's log 11:53, October 28, 2011 (UTC)