RuneScape:Requests for deletion/Gentleman Mallard

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. The result was Keep. --LiquidTalk 18:16, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Gentleman Mallard[edit source]

Gentleman Mallard is dead. He has never been seen in-game, and will never be seen in the future. Because he is dead, he can basically be ruled out as a future release. He is mentioned only briefly in a chatbox when purchasing the Rapier. RS:G does not apply, since it only deals with NPC's that can be seen in-game. RS:NIP doesn't apply, because 1. he's not an item, and 2. he did not once exist in the game, since he was never released. RS:NOT#CRYSTAL does apply, though, and since this is not ever going to be released, I say it should be merged into Rapier. The fact that it's a Morian Smith article shouldn't matter too much, since what's important is policy.

Merge - As nominator. --LiquidTalk 12:05, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - I think we should keep it because it has quite a bit of history about him. Matt (t) 12:14, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - There is quite a bit of information there for a dead, never-seen-before character. 222 talk 12:18, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - He isn't the only deceased NPC to have a page, for example former monarchs, and it has much more information than many of those. Snowfired 12:23, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

I was going to nominate the former monarchs later. --LiquidTalk 12:25, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - Because of the Pirates of the Caribbean ending. --Iiii I I I 12:26, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - There are probably hundreds of articles on the Wiki about unseen characters. Many of these are far better and contain far more information than the ones about characters actually seen in-game. Mallard is a very important character; apart from his involvement with the rapier, he also plays a large role in the pirate quest series. By your argument, "Lord Drakan" should be deleted, since Jagex has never overtly indicated that he will be released in-game. If there's a policy issue here, then the policy should be changed, and it's as simple as that. Quest.png Morian Smith Saradomin crozier.png 13:34, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Keep - I see no reason to do this. Stop trying to delete/merge half of the articles on the wiki, please. ajr 14:02, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - Stop trying to delete historical articles. There really is no reason to do this. He's mentioned, and it's important. Also, what policy are you alluding to? Do you want to delete Jas? I think the larger discussion is over the historical aims of this wiki. This page is completely relevant, and any policy that exists (though I don't see one that does) that goes against that should be changed. I think the majority of the pages that Morian has created would fall under whatever precedent that you could set with this RfD (though it appears that won't happen), and I can say without any trace of a doubt that the wiki is better off with these pages. Why do you want to delete articles on historical characters? RS:NOT#CRYSTAL does simply not apply. There is nothing in the article that is speculation about future updates. He is dead, and it states that in the article. No speculation about future updates can be found there. In addition, your suggestion that we merge the article doesn't work either. There is enough canonical information on Mallard that half of Rapier would be on Mallard. This merging of pages that supposedly don't have enough information for their own page generally doesn't work for me. When people search for something, they want to find it. They don't want to find one or two references to it that they may have to look for, when the page is redirected. ʞooɔ 16:56, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Strong keep - So you're gonna delete something like Adwr as well? --Coolnesse 17:09, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

I'll see if I can come up with a good reason for it. --LiquidTalk 18:16, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Withdrawn - I'll reconsider this later. --LiquidTalk 18:16, September 9, 2010 (UTC)


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