RuneScape:Chat/Logs/16 August 2015

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[2015-08-15 23:47:09] <ChaoticShadow> why do we have the konami cheatcode...
[2015-08-15 23:51:02] <Stinkowing> because stupid people
[2015-08-15 23:51:16] * Stinkowing still can't believe that that was considered at all
[2015-08-15 23:52:09] <ChaoticShadow> funny "easter" egg
[2015-08-15 23:52:15] <ChaoticShadow> er "easter egg"
[2015-08-15 23:58:33] <TonyBest100> Because it's nice. And it leads to the perfect page :P
[2015-08-15 23:58:52] <Jlun2> reset soon
[2015-08-16 00:04:54] <Coelacanth0794> why does Candles_(Construction) redirect to the lighting item
[2015-08-16 00:05:10] <Jlun2> idk
[2015-08-16 00:06:17] <Coelacanth0794> done with poh spam
[2015-08-16 00:06:37] <Jlun2> what
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[2015-08-16 00:14:23] <Coelacanth0794> check rc
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[2015-08-16 00:58:16] <TonyBest100> http://i.imgur.com/fXDHaUs.gif
[2015-08-16 00:58:40] <TonyBest100> That was in /r/gaming with the title "Climbing a ladder in a game and hitting the wrong button" :P
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[2015-08-16 01:16:53] <Yayepicyay> why does Rapid Growth (and probably other seren spells) have for quest requirement The light within (plus Desert Treasure)? when The light within requires temple at sentinsen which requires desert treasure? 
[2015-08-16 01:18:53] <Starieeena> idk shouldn't be like that
[2015-08-16 01:18:54] <Starieeena> dum
[2015-08-16 01:19:35] <Yayepicyay> I try editing but it only says the Light within somehow the template adds it automatically i guess
[2015-08-16 01:19:46] <Starieeena> oh
[2015-08-16 01:21:06] <Starieeena> because the spellbook type is ancients it automatically adds it
[2015-08-16 01:21:37] <Starieeena> (even tho unnecessary for the seren spells)
[2015-08-16 01:21:38] <Starieeena> ;-;
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[2015-08-16 01:59:10] <Gen-Electric> hi everyone
[2015-08-16 02:01:13] <Coelacanth0794> hello
[2015-08-16 02:02:44] <TyA> Hi
[2015-08-16 02:03:51] <Starieeena> hi
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[2015-08-16 02:12:52] <Gen-Electric> just came back to rs from a 3 year break lol
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[2015-08-16 02:13:35] <Coelacanth0794> oh? what caused the break?
[2015-08-16 02:13:51] <Gen-Electric> nothing lol, got bored.
[2015-08-16 02:13:57] <Gen-Electric> lost like 100 mil from that lol
[2015-08-16 02:14:04] <Gen-Electric> had 30 sets of zammy in bank
[2015-08-16 02:14:12] <Gen-Electric> >.>
[2015-08-16 02:14:55] <Deathdude650> I usually get bored when I my membership runs out and I don't play for a while
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[2015-08-16 02:15:46] <Coelacanth0794> sets of zamy?
[2015-08-16 02:15:51] <Coelacanth0794> as in zam trimmed rune?
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[2015-08-16 02:25:36] <ChaoticShadow> hicook
[2015-08-16 02:29:06] <Starieeena> coel did u notice that tya has 2 birthdays
[2015-08-16 02:29:30] <Gen-Electric> yes
[2015-08-16 02:29:34] <Gen-Electric> zammy trimmed rune sets
[2015-08-16 02:29:35] <Gen-Electric> :(
[2015-08-16 02:29:44] <Gen-Electric> how can you train attack right now?
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[2015-08-16 02:34:43] <ChaoticShadow> lel star
[2015-08-16 02:35:04] <Coelacanth0794> in the combat settings you can change what xp you want to gain when fighting monsters
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[2015-08-16 02:46:24] <Starieeena> [[dreadnip]]
[2015-08-16 02:47:38] <Gen-Electric> i mean
[2015-08-16 02:47:42] <Gen-Electric> how to get the most exp
[2015-08-16 02:49:07] <Starieeena> http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Pay-to-play_melee_training#Level_90-99
[2015-08-16 02:57:17] <Gen-Electric> thx
[2015-08-16 02:58:25] <Starieeena> also maybe either celestials/glacors
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[2015-08-16 03:20:55] <Cook_Me_Plox> "runescapes Wiki is so good, no surprise it's the best lol FUCK YEAH RUNENNNSCAPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
[2015-08-16 03:21:09] <ChaoticShadow> lol
[2015-08-16 03:26:19] <Coelacanth0794> ?
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[2015-08-16 03:42:28] <ChaoticShadow> Hi IP
[2015-08-16 03:42:51] <IP83.101.44.209> Hi.
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[2015-08-16 03:44:01] <TyA> hi ip
[2015-08-16 03:44:20] <Starieeena> hello
[2015-08-16 03:47:17] <Starieeena> [[kq]]
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[2015-08-16 03:50:43] <Gian1001> hey guys :P
[2015-08-16 03:51:05] <Gian1001> imagine getting [[Lil' tuzzy]]
[2015-08-16 03:55:00] <ChaoticShadow> afkscape
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[2015-08-16 03:57:22] <Jlun2> http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Lucky_gown_of_subjugation
[2015-08-16 03:57:24] <Jlun2> i did it
[2015-08-16 03:57:34] <Jlun2> full lucky sub
[2015-08-16 03:58:10] <Cook_Me_Plox> Jlun2: what category should http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/File:Banking_ability_icon.png et al. go in?
[2015-08-16 03:58:32] <Jlun2> http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Status_icon_images
[2015-08-16 03:58:32] <Jlun2> theres this
[2015-08-16 03:58:41] <Jlun2> but the page is called something different
[2015-08-16 03:58:56] <Jlun2> "[[Buffs and debuffs]]"
[2015-08-16 03:59:19] <Jlun2> btw that name is from edit mode
[2015-08-16 03:59:46] <Cook_Me_Plox> http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/File:Elitecluescan.jpg wat do
[2015-08-16 04:00:33] <Jlun2> http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Treasure_Trails/Guide/Scans?diff=14321287&oldid=14304189
[2015-08-16 04:00:33] <Jlun2> wtf
[2015-08-16 04:00:38] <Jlun2> |[[File:Scan clue Brimhaven Dungeon lower level north-west corner of iron and steel dragon chamber.png]]
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[2015-08-16 04:02:23] <Jlun2> cook
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[2015-08-16 04:02:29] <Jlun2> ill try retake
[2015-08-16 04:02:32] <Jlun2> and reupload
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[2015-08-16 04:03:22] <TyA> [[the pit]]
[2015-08-16 04:04:54] <Cook_Me_Plox> yo star
[2015-08-16 04:06:07] <Cook_Me_Plox> Jlun: are those status icons?
[2015-08-16 04:06:26] <Jlun2> oh wait
[2015-08-16 04:06:29] <Jlun2> no 
[2015-08-16 04:06:38] <Jlun2> that was from the legendary pet tab
[2015-08-16 04:06:52] <Jlun2> the status icon is slightly different
[2015-08-16 04:06:56] <Starieeena> are u gonna tell me off for not adding categories to the poh images i uploaded
[2015-08-16 04:07:13] <Cook_Me_Plox> actually no
[2015-08-16 04:07:17] <Jlun2> hmm
[2015-08-16 04:07:21] <Jlun2> since its from sgs
[2015-08-16 04:07:25] <Cook_Me_Plox> you're usually on for new updates right?
[2015-08-16 04:07:40] <Starieeena> yeah
[2015-08-16 04:07:50] <Jlun2> "Solomon's General Store images"
[2015-08-16 04:07:52] <Jlun2> would this work
[2015-08-16 04:11:56] <Cook_Me_Plox> I guess
[2015-08-16 04:13:17] <Cook_Me_Plox> Star: 2 things
[2015-08-16 04:13:42] <Cook_Me_Plox> 1. could you possibly un-orphan the ET stuff on [[Special:UnusedFiles]]? Don't we have a place for that?
[2015-08-16 04:14:50] <Starieeena> i don't think we have a place for them
[2015-08-16 04:15:00] <Starieeena> (do we?)
[2015-08-16 04:15:04] <Jlun2> cook
[2015-08-16 04:15:16] <Jlun2> http://i.imgur.com/KiQ2zUo.png
[2015-08-16 04:15:17] <Jlun2> proof
[2015-08-16 04:15:19] <Jlun2> they are items
[2015-08-16 04:15:51] <Cook_Me_Plox> coolio
[2015-08-16 04:16:31] <Cook_Me_Plox> oh I see
[2015-08-16 04:16:40] <Cook_Me_Plox> it looks like we only use them on the particular event page...
[2015-08-16 04:17:02] <Starieeena> ..delete?
[2015-08-16 04:17:27] <Starieeena> ...make a place?
[2015-08-16 04:17:43] <Cook_Me_Plox> I dunno, will we ever use them again?
[2015-08-16 04:17:47] <Cook_Me_Plox> I would probably say delete
[2015-08-16 04:17:50] <Cook_Me_Plox> I just assumed we had a place
[2015-08-16 04:18:13] <Starieeena> no because new ones each event
[2015-08-16 04:18:24] <Starieeena> but then all of the ones in http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Events_Team_banners
[2015-08-16 04:18:38] <Jlun2> http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/File:Lucky_subjugation_set_equipped.png
[2015-08-16 04:18:39] <Jlun2> :)
[2015-08-16 04:18:55] <Jlun2> cook
[2015-08-16 04:19:03] <Starieeena> http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Events_Team_events
[2015-08-16 04:19:04] <Jlun2> is there a way so that the event banners could be reused?
[2015-08-16 04:19:06] <Jlun2> like image map?
[2015-08-16 04:19:07] <Jlun2> for text
[2015-08-16 04:19:19] <Starieeena> wat
[2015-08-16 04:19:28] <Jlun2> overlay the text on a banner
[2015-08-16 04:19:34] <Jlun2> so the banner can be used over and over
[2015-08-16 04:19:49] <Jlun2> since as you can see. each banner uses the same backgrounds, but differetn date
[2015-08-16 04:19:55] <Jlun2> http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/File:Nex_6_June_2015.png
[2015-08-16 04:19:58] <Jlun2> http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/File:Nex_11-4-15.png
[2015-08-16 04:20:13] <Starieeena> fetus does the banners so he'd have to be asked
[2015-08-16 04:20:25] <Jlun2> http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/File:Elitecluescan.jpg
[2015-08-16 04:20:29] <Jlun2> cook delete please i retook
[2015-08-16 04:20:30] <Jlun2> uploading
[2015-08-16 04:23:46] <Jlun2> http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/File:Scan_clue_Brimhaven_Dungeon_in_eastern_part_of_red_dragon_chamber.png
[2015-08-16 04:23:46] <Jlun2> ty
[2015-08-16 04:27:48] <Starieeena> "Star: 2 things"
[2015-08-16 04:27:49] <Starieeena> ??
[2015-08-16 04:28:21] <Cook_Me_Plox> yeah other thing
[2015-08-16 04:28:48] <Cook_Me_Plox> I'm making a list of things that new editors can help with, in preparation for a big "editor drive" on the wiki and on reddit and things
[2015-08-16 04:29:50] <Starieeena> cool
[2015-08-16 04:29:52] <Cook_Me_Plox> Things to make people see that everything isn't all perfect
[2015-08-16 04:30:01] <Cook_Me_Plox> And there's something they can contribute if they so desire
[2015-08-16 04:30:21] <Cook_Me_Plox> So far I have...maps, navboxes, monster data, calculators, strategy guides, new money making guides, and alog images
[2015-08-16 04:30:30] <Cook_Me_Plox> I also want to do something for new updates
[2015-08-16 04:30:49] <Starieeena> D:
[2015-08-16 04:30:57] <Cook_Me_Plox> y so D:
[2015-08-16 04:31:18] <Starieeena> potential bad editing
[2015-08-16 04:31:26] <Cook_Me_Plox> what
[2015-08-16 04:31:32] <Starieeena> new editors
[2015-08-16 04:31:58] <Cook_Me_Plox> what do you mean bad editing
[2015-08-16 04:32:03] <Cook_Me_Plox> like malicious editing, or uninformed editing?
[2015-08-16 04:32:08] <Starieeena> uninformed
[2015-08-16 04:32:33] <Starieeena> unaware of policies and style etc
[2015-08-16 04:32:43] <Jlun2> JPG master race
[2015-08-16 04:33:00] <ChaoticShadow> rofl
[2015-08-16 04:33:01] <Cook_Me_Plox> how is that a bad thing though
[2015-08-16 04:33:49] <Starieeena> won't be a bad thing cus' more editors
[2015-08-16 04:33:55] <Starieeena> just maybe more monitoring
[2015-08-16 04:34:03] <Jlun2> let me elaborate
[2015-08-16 04:34:09] <Jlun2> they update an old image thats png
[2015-08-16 04:34:20] <Jlun2> with a seperate file in heavy jpg
[2015-08-16 04:34:24] <Jlun2> then use VE to replace it
[2015-08-16 04:34:28] <Cook_Me_Plox> that's stupid and doesn't happen
[2015-08-16 04:35:07] <Cook_Me_Plox> anyway, "new updates" includes..being around for new updates and helping write pages, utilizing Jagex's APIs to make that easier, and doing stuff with livestreams and twitter and whatever else to do stuff before the new updates actually happen
[2015-08-16 04:35:19] <Cook_Me_Plox> this is a very important part of the wiki that we should place a greater emphasis on
[2015-08-16 04:35:27] <Starieeena> what's VE
[2015-08-16 04:35:34] <Starieeena> ok
[2015-08-16 04:35:51] <Starieeena> cool
[2015-08-16 04:35:55] <Jlun2> visual editor
[2015-08-16 04:36:02] <Starieeena> o
[2015-08-16 04:36:08] <ChaoticShadow> ve is terrible anyways
[2015-08-16 04:36:23] <Cook_Me_Plox> can I put you down as the person to talk to for new updates
[2015-08-16 04:36:52] <Cook_Me_Plox> eg gaz is doing calculators, riblet is doing navboxes, I'm doing location maps and monster data and maybe mmgs, maybe mol will do strategy guides
[2015-08-16 04:36:58] <Starieeena> ok
[2015-08-16 04:37:06] <Starieeena> B)
[2015-08-16 04:37:10] <Cook_Me_Plox> just being the person to splain what to do and get people on their feet
[2015-08-16 04:37:16] <Starieeena> spleen
[2015-08-16 04:37:57] <ChaoticShadow> so what's cook cooking/plotting up next?
[2015-08-16 04:38:28] <Jlun2> scheming/planning/thinking/pondering
[2015-08-16 04:38:35] <Jlun2> envisioning 
[2015-08-16 04:38:54] <Starieeena> "I'm making a list of things that new editors can help with, in preparation for a big "editor drive" on the wiki and on reddit and things" 
[2015-08-16 04:38:58] <Starieeena> ETA?
[2015-08-16 04:39:03] <Cook_Me_Plox> maybe tomorrow?
[2015-08-16 04:39:06] <Cook_Me_Plox> what do you think?
[2015-08-16 04:39:12] <Starieeena> great
[2015-08-16 04:39:32] <Starieeena> like evening?
[2015-08-16 04:40:03] <Cook_Me_Plox> you're in UK?
[2015-08-16 04:40:14] <Starieeena> yeah
[2015-08-16 04:40:19] <Cook_Me_Plox> yeah, probably thereabouts
[2015-08-16 04:40:22] <Cook_Me_Plox> it's not going to be anything instant
[2015-08-16 04:40:28] <Starieeena> ok
[2015-08-16 04:41:09] <Cook_Me_Plox> another good easy one would be dialogue pages
[2015-08-16 04:41:12] <Cook_Me_Plox> any other ideas?
[2015-08-16 04:42:19] <Starieeena> not that i can think of off the top of my head
[2015-08-16 04:43:20] <Starieeena> well, image transparency
[2015-08-16 04:44:39] <Jlun2> good night
[2015-08-16 04:44:55] <Cook_Me_Plox> I think image transparency is overrated
[2015-08-16 04:45:04] <Cook_Me_Plox> mainly because 80% of the images in that category, we can get with the alog
[2015-08-16 04:45:11] <Cook_Me_Plox> bigger, and with transparency already applied
[2015-08-16 04:48:12] <Starieeena> fine
[2015-08-16 04:55:10] <Starieeena> [[broad bolts]]
[2015-08-16 05:06:10] <Starieeena> [[ancient relic]]
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[2015-08-16 05:26:34] <Dtm142> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qZYsYq_Ctw
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[2015-08-16 05:32:55] <Gian1001> :(
[2015-08-16 05:33:01] <Gian1001> cant find rots team
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[2015-08-16 05:53:32] <1Trevor.Grams1> hey
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[2015-08-16 06:07:35] <Salix7> hi
[2015-08-16 06:07:47] <Salix7> I'm currently making a navbox for [[Pirate's Treasure]]
[2015-08-16 06:07:57] <Salix7> and I was wondering if [[White apron]] is rare enough to be put on there.
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[2015-08-16 06:11:30] <Alchez> Well, you can get a white apron during the quest.
[2015-08-16 06:16:00] <Cook_Me_Plox> I would say...sure
[2015-08-16 06:16:19] <Cook_Me_Plox> it doesn't really have any other inherent use, does it?
[2015-08-16 06:16:51] <Salix7> true
[2015-08-16 06:17:26] <Salix7> be ready for a wave of edits :P
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[2015-08-16 06:49:42] <Riblet15> salix's navbox looks a little funny
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[2015-08-16 06:59:31] <Haidro> Which quests don't we have navboxes for?
[2015-08-16 07:03:39] <Cook_Me_Plox> wouldnt u like 2 kno
[2015-08-16 07:10:13] <Riblet15> http://pastebin.com/jVUaWXZ6
[2015-08-16 07:10:21] <Riblet15> not a perfect list
[2015-08-16 07:28:16] <Haidro> oh wow not many left
[2015-08-16 07:28:46] <Haidro> gg riblet noob editor: http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Pirate%27s_Treasure?curid=541741&diff=14409394&oldid=14408672
[2015-08-16 07:38:14] <Gian1001> o.o
[2015-08-16 07:38:16] <Gian1001> yakamaru
[2015-08-16 07:38:16] <Gian1001> <3
[2015-08-16 07:39:34] <Atheist723> http://voidtorcher.tumblr.com/post/126775949913/kalphite-king-wiki-event
[2015-08-16 07:40:25] <Gian1001> lol
[2015-08-16 07:40:31] <Atheist723> There are huge piles of sharks everywhere because everyone is being 1-hit and their familiars dropped everything.
[2015-08-16 07:40:36] <Gian1001> when did it happen?
[2015-08-16 07:40:51] <Atheist723> 11 hours ago.
[2015-08-16 07:41:14] <Gian1001> wow
[2015-08-16 07:41:15] <Gian1001> so many balls
[2015-08-16 07:41:16] <Gian1001> ballz
[2015-08-16 07:41:17] <Gian1001> lol
[2015-08-16 07:41:27] <Gian1001> 120 mining
[2015-08-16 07:41:30] <Gian1001> who is star?
[2015-08-16 07:41:31] <Gian1001> wow
[2015-08-16 07:43:22] <Atheist723> A friend.
[2015-08-16 07:53:41] <Gian1001> oh
[2015-08-16 07:53:42] <Gian1001> lol
[2015-08-16 07:53:49] <Gian1001> im with "Iron Faery"
[2015-08-16 07:53:54] <Gian1001> in a yakamaru kill
[2015-08-16 08:07:22] <Haidro> star sprite is starieena
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[2015-08-16 08:45:41] <Jayster18> Will the Thieving Guild doors be closed again if I hop worlds?
[2015-08-16 09:09:54] <Ozuzanna> https://i.imgur.com/xFhug.png
[2015-08-16 09:09:54] <Ozuzanna> damn thats old
[2015-08-16 09:09:54] <Ozuzanna> too bad athe isnt here to see
[2015-08-16 09:35:20] <Ozuzanna> https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130121165909AAk8y72
[2015-08-16 09:35:21] <Cook_Me_Plox> http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/User:Cook_Me_Plox/MapList
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[2015-08-16 09:43:58] <Lord_Adderhead> hey
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[2015-08-16 10:00:39] <ThePsionic> Cook
[2015-08-16 10:00:39] <ThePsionic> harmony_islans_windmill_cellar
[2015-08-16 10:00:43] <ThePsionic> bit of a typo
[2015-08-16 10:01:54] <Cook_Me_Plox> not my typo, iirc
[2015-08-16 10:04:05] <ThePsionic> Also some DB links don't show up as pictures but as links
[2015-08-16 10:04:46] <Cook_Me_Plox> yeah. I think that's just randomness
[2015-08-16 10:05:04] <Cook_Me_Plox> also psi I'm starting a new editor drive tomorrow
[2015-08-16 10:05:10] <Cook_Me_Plox> do you have any ideas for projects
[2015-08-16 10:05:17] <Cook_Me_Plox> or do you want to 'lead' one of the existing ones
[2015-08-16 10:09:20] <ThePsionic> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16076024/Maps/Dungeon%20map/Realm%20Of%20The%20Culinaromancer.png heh
[2015-08-16 10:09:27] <ThePsionic> Also what are existing projects
[2015-08-16 10:09:29] <Cook_Me_Plox> that one was fucking hard to get
[2015-08-16 10:09:35] <Cook_Me_Plox> the culinaromancer thing
[2015-08-16 10:10:56] <ThePsionic> You wouldn't think it would be that hard
[2015-08-16 10:12:34] <ThePsionic> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16076024/Maps/Dungeon%20map/Limbo.png even better
[2015-08-16 10:14:42] <Cook_Me_Plox> I sent you a think tbh
[2015-08-16 10:17:13] <ThePsionic> [[TH/P]]
[2015-08-16 10:17:26] <Cook_Me_Plox> ???
[2015-08-16 10:17:34] <ThePsionic> I was looking at it
[2015-08-16 10:17:42] <Cook_Me_Plox> I bet you [email protected]
[2015-08-16 10:18:13] <ThePsionic> I'm pretty much the only one who upkeeps the Treasure Hunter promo archives, and I didn't know if I already did this promo :P
[2015-08-16 10:18:29] <Cook_Me_Plox> did you see my message yo
[2015-08-16 10:18:33] <ThePsionic> yeye
[2015-08-16 10:19:02] <ThePsionic> None of them speak to me though :P
[2015-08-16 10:19:09] <Cook_Me_Plox> what does speak to you
[2015-08-16 10:19:29] <ThePsionic> Actually I guess monster data is a nice one
[2015-08-16 10:20:01] <ThePsionic> But you already self-assigned that I see
[2015-08-16 10:20:41] <Cook_Me_Plox> you can take it
[2015-08-16 10:20:47] <Cook_Me_Plox> do you know what needs to happen?
[2015-08-16 10:20:58] <ThePsionic> Not really, but I'm sure you can explain me :P
[2015-08-16 10:26:43] <Haidro> [[RS:SG]]
[2015-08-16 10:29:43] <Cook_Me_Plox> ThePsionic: basically, the monster data on the wiki is super inconsistent and isn't very machine-readable
[2015-08-16 10:29:57] <Cook_Me_Plox> we can't match it up to actual data from Jagex very well at all
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[2015-08-16 10:36:46] <ThePsionic> So what do you suggest to be done about it
[2015-08-16 10:38:35] <Cook_Me_Plox> well, we have all this jagex-provided data about monsters
[2015-08-16 10:38:45] <Cook_Me_Plox> for every monster we have the name and level
[2015-08-16 10:38:58] <Cook_Me_Plox> and for most monsters (through the bestiary) we have the skills, lp, xp, weakness, etc
[2015-08-16 10:40:52] <ThePsionic> So basically going through categories and eliminating them?
[2015-08-16 10:41:04] <Cook_Me_Plox> a bit more complicated than that
[2015-08-16 10:41:20] <Cook_Me_Plox> the complicating factor is how to deal with monsters of which there are "multiple" of them on a page
[2015-08-16 10:41:26] <Cook_Me_Plox> canonical example is [[Skeleton]]
[2015-08-16 10:41:50] <Cook_Me_Plox> we have two ways to deal with this and I would like to add a third
[2015-08-16 10:41:52] <Cook_Me_Plox> we can split the page
[2015-08-16 10:41:55] <Cook_Me_Plox> we can use switch infoboxes
[2015-08-16 10:42:22] <Cook_Me_Plox> or we can modify infobox monster so that it supports multiple monster parameters in a systematic way
[2015-08-16 10:42:32] <Cook_Me_Plox> that lets us extract all the data for a single monster (e.g. level 72 skeleton)
[2015-08-16 10:42:39] <Cook_Me_Plox> even if it's all visible on a single infobox
[2015-08-16 10:42:41] <Cook_Me_Plox> make sense?
[2015-08-16 10:43:03] <ThePsionic> That does make sense and that sounds like a good idea
[2015-08-16 10:43:14] <ThePsionic> I'd have no idea how to actually implement it
[2015-08-16 10:44:07] <Cook_Me_Plox> I'll figure out that part
[2015-08-16 10:45:00] <Cook_Me_Plox> let me give an example of where it's really bad
[2015-08-16 10:45:02] <ThePsionic> Awesome
[2015-08-16 10:45:10] <ThePsionic> [[Goblin]]? :P
[2015-08-16 10:45:17] <Cook_Me_Plox> For Agrith Na-Na's lp, we say:
[2015-08-16 10:45:17] <Cook_Me_Plox> 4800 (quest) 
[2015-08-16 10:45:17] <Cook_Me_Plox> 6400 (Dominion Tower)
[2015-08-16 10:45:28] <Cook_Me_Plox> Animated book we say "4, 24, 46, 68, 110, 138"
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[2015-08-16 10:45:40] <Cook_Me_Plox> "84 (1 on the island)"
[2015-08-16 10:45:45] <ThePsionic> wat
[2015-08-16 10:45:46] <Cook_Me_Plox> "See table"
[2015-08-16 10:45:52] <Cook_Me_Plox> "Varies"
[2015-08-16 10:45:59] <ThePsionic> I get the problem
[2015-08-16 10:46:09] <Cook_Me_Plox> okay
[2015-08-16 10:46:24] <Cook_Me_Plox> so we need to go through all the monster infoboxes and systematically make them machine-readable
[2015-08-16 10:46:32] <Cook_Me_Plox> in one of those three ways. splitting, switch infobox, new infobox
[2015-08-16 10:46:33] <ThePsionic> Fun times
[2015-08-16 10:46:46] <Cook_Me_Plox> I estimate it would take one person about a week or two
[2015-08-16 10:46:50] <ThePsionic> I would go for your suggested new infobox then
[2015-08-16 10:47:05] <ThePsionic> Also that's fine, in 2 weeks is the end of my holiday approximately lol
[2015-08-16 10:47:11] <Alchez> What's happening?
[2015-08-16 10:47:20] <ThePsionic> What isn't
[2015-08-16 10:47:22] <Cook_Me_Plox> Well, it's not an either/or thing
[2015-08-16 10:47:33] <Cook_Me_Plox> Splitting, switch infoboxes, and the new thing all have their place in solving this problem
[2015-08-16 10:48:01] <Cook_Me_Plox> THEN, once that is finished, everything falls into place
[2015-08-16 10:48:06] <Cook_Me_Plox> the bestiary can be automated
[2015-08-16 10:48:26] <Cook_Me_Plox> we can fix the wretched "dropped by" lines on item pages automatically to use the new levels
[2015-08-16 10:48:30] <Cook_Me_Plox> because we never fixed them with eoc
[2015-08-16 10:48:38] <Cook_Me_Plox> and then proceeded to not fix them with legacy either
[2015-08-16 10:48:55] <Cook_Me_Plox> Alchez: brainstorming big wiki projects
[2015-08-16 10:49:02] <ThePsionic> mhm
[2015-08-16 10:49:22] <Alchez> Interesting. What is the issue?
[2015-08-16 10:49:31] <Cook_Me_Plox> Well, we're discussing fixing monster infoboxes
[2015-08-16 10:49:51] <Cook_Me_Plox> Which are very much a mess, and have been from day one
[2015-08-16 10:50:05] <ThePsionic> So it's kind of [[Forum:Monster level module|the thing I suggested a while ago]]
[2015-08-16 10:50:22] <Cook_Me_Plox> yeah
[2015-08-16 10:50:35] <Cook_Me_Plox> although to be totally honest, I don't think that's a good idea without SMW
[2015-08-16 10:50:47] <Cook_Me_Plox> and I don't really even like SMW
[2015-08-16 10:51:07] <Cook_Me_Plox> I would say what I'm proposing is a prerequisite to doing your thing well
[2015-08-16 10:52:40] <ThePsionic> That's fine 
[2015-08-16 10:53:04] <Cook_Me_Plox> the actual workflow for this project would be something like...
[2015-08-16 10:53:19] <Cook_Me_Plox> I'd generate the jagex data for npcs and bestiary stuff
[2015-08-16 10:53:24] <Cook_Me_Plox> put that in a google doc or something
[2015-08-16 10:54:01] <Cook_Me_Plox> and then you (and possibly others) would go through the list of articles and standardize them, both in fixing how we do multiple monsters, and also making sure the numbers are correct
[2015-08-16 10:54:20] <ThePsionic> mhm
[2015-08-16 10:56:58] <Alchez> Sounds pretty great. What's SMW?
[2015-08-16 10:57:43] <ThePsionic> semantic mediawiki
[2015-08-16 10:58:19] <Ozuzanna> Shit MediaWikia
[2015-08-16 10:58:22] <ThePsionic> ^
[2015-08-16 11:00:38] <Cook_Me_Plox> semantic mediawiki is a really heavyduty mediawiki extension that lets you do things approximating database queries
[2015-08-16 11:01:02] <Cook_Me_Plox> actually psi, first things first
[2015-08-16 11:01:11] <Cook_Me_Plox> let's think of some guidelines for splitting, switch infobox, single infobox
[2015-08-16 11:01:24] <ThePsionic> Mhm
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[2015-08-16 11:02:11] <Vegancookies> http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Reward_book_%28Members_Loyalty_Programme%29?cb=4564
[2015-08-16 11:02:15] <Vegancookies> this calculator is broken
[2015-08-16 11:02:26] <Vegancookies> relics are giving me half of what that claims they should
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[2015-08-16 11:02:44] <ThePsionic> define relics
[2015-08-16 11:02:57] <ThePsionic> and the calculator works fine for me
[2015-08-16 11:03:08] <Vegancookies> 91 I get 6419
[2015-08-16 11:03:15] <Vegancookies> calculator gives me 12K+
[2015-08-16 11:03:21] <Vegancookies> and mysterious/goe relics
[2015-08-16 11:03:28] <ThePsionic> you mean the meteors?
[2015-08-16 11:03:30] <Cook_Me_Plox> is that specifically with the JOT book?
[2015-08-16 11:03:32] <ThePsionic> Oh wait no
[2015-08-16 11:03:36] * ThePsionic slaps face
[2015-08-16 11:03:40] <Vegancookies> no, relics from them
[2015-08-16 11:04:06] <Vegancookies> oh wait
[2015-08-16 11:04:08] <Vegancookies> I can't read
[2015-08-16 11:04:15] <Vegancookies> "half the experience" didn't see that bit
[2015-08-16 11:04:20] * ThePsionic slaps Vegan's face too
[2015-08-16 11:04:46] <ThePsionic> I have like 20 relics sitting in my bank, I should turn those into xp too
[2015-08-16 11:05:06] <Vegancookies> it's half the experience of that book:( I won't get my level
[2015-08-16 11:05:18] <ThePsionic> RIP
[2015-08-16 11:05:35] <Vegancookies> lol
[2015-08-16 11:05:36] <ThePsionic> Also I am addicted to a song
[2015-08-16 11:05:39] <ThePsionic> Help me
[2015-08-16 11:05:55] <ThePsionic> I've had Fall Out Boy - Uma Thurman on repeat all day
[2015-08-16 11:11:40] <TonyBest100> Lol
[2015-08-16 11:11:46] <ThePsionic> [[Earth rune]]
[2015-08-16 11:12:52] <Cook_Me_Plox> whoa
[2015-08-16 11:13:02] <Cook_Me_Plox> I think they drastically increased the number of monsters on the bestiary API
[2015-08-16 11:13:54] <ThePsionic> That's a Good Thing(tm)
[2015-08-16 11:14:00] <Ozuzanna> (H)
[2015-08-16 11:14:17] <ThePsionic> [[hydra pouch]]
[2015-08-16 11:14:40] <Ozuzanna> [[ironman]]
[2015-08-16 11:19:14] <ThePsionic> [[mahogany toy box]]
[2015-08-16 11:22:16] <TonyBest100> They did Cook?
[2015-08-16 11:22:33] <ThePsionic> They did, Cook?
[2015-08-16 11:22:40] <ThePsionic> Commas matter a LOT in this case
[2015-08-16 11:23:06] <TonyBest100> Too lazy for commas :P
[2015-08-16 11:23:18] <ThePsionic> I mean no one ever does Cook
[2015-08-16 11:23:56] <TonyBest100> Anyway, wonder what the update will be tomorrow, given that The Light Within was pushed back a week
[2015-08-16 11:26:40] <ThePsionic> Patch week
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[2015-08-16 11:34:41] <Cook_Me_Plox> I cook
[2015-08-16 11:36:13] <Cook_Me_Plox> so how do we want to do these guidelines
[2015-08-16 11:41:15] <Cook_Me_Plox> okay, figured out how to dump chatheads
[2015-08-16 11:49:10] <Ozuzanna> https://i.imgur.com/dzHEqug.png
[2015-08-16 11:54:56] <Alchez> Page got marked for deletion, Cook. :'(
[2015-08-16 11:58:58] <Cook_Me_Plox> aww
[2015-08-16 11:59:22] <Battleben> http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/User%3ABattleben/Cheese_(Saradomin) lol
[2015-08-16 11:59:26] <Alchez> Ah, well. They have a good reason for it anyway, I just chose the wrong project.
[2015-08-16 12:01:08] <Cook_Me_Plox> make the page, Ben
[2015-08-16 12:01:14] <Alchez> I know how he must have felt if it was blue cheese.
[2015-08-16 12:02:14] <Cook_Me_Plox> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16076024/npc2015.txt
[2015-08-16 12:02:59] <Cook_Me_Plox> ack. too many nulls
[2015-08-16 12:05:20] <ThePsionic> Ben
[2015-08-16 12:05:30] <ThePsionic> Are you perhaps a contributor to uncyclopedia
[2015-08-16 12:06:23] <Battleben> Nah
[2015-08-16 12:06:51] <Battleben> oh hey
[2015-08-16 12:07:09] <Battleben> that list has the disappeared Burgh De Rott NPCs at the end.
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[2015-08-16 12:09:31] <Battleben> and what was presumably their old position has been replaced with null.
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[2015-08-16 12:11:58] <Sralse> hi
[2015-08-16 12:11:58] <RSChatBot> Sralse, Gaz Lloyd told you: this should help with learning wikicode https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tutorial
[2015-08-16 12:12:12] <Sralse> ik, I had it bookmarked already
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[2015-08-16 12:18:04] <Ozuzanna> https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11892098_10150583356159949_7421112644905170022_n.jpg?oh=2ee964cdfd604a9ad267b6853c7d4218&oe=56488447
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[2015-08-16 12:21:03] <Sralse> cool
[2015-08-16 12:25:40] <Battleben> okay that's vaguely interesting
[2015-08-16 12:26:08] <Battleben> The NPC's [[Victor]] and [[Helena]] are seemingly removed from the game no matter your quest progression.
[2015-08-16 12:26:20] <Battleben> And there's apparently a Burgh De Rott NPC called [[Vladimir]] that we have no record of whatsoever.
[2015-08-16 12:26:34] <Cook_Me_Plox> what's the purpose of removing them?
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[2015-08-16 12:29:18] <Coelacanth0794> hi
[2015-08-16 12:29:46] <Battleben> I suspect they're bugged?
[2015-08-16 12:29:57] <Battleben> Since they're gone regardless of quest progress by the look of things.
[2015-08-16 12:30:08] <Battleben> When the other Burgh De Rott disappearances happen at set points and are explained.
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[2015-08-16 12:50:12] <Jlun2> !tell gaz_lloyd https://twitter.com/Maniac_Hex/status/632889202531700736/photo/1 gg
[2015-08-16 12:50:13] <RSChatBot> Jlun2: I'll tell gaz lloyd that the next time I see them.
[2015-08-16 12:58:40] <Ozuzanna> https://i.imgur.com/XoltM5B.jpg?3
[2015-08-16 13:02:43] <Battleben> oh hey I finally found TUska's model
[2015-08-16 13:07:12] <Cook_Me_Plox> http://strawpoll.me/1676092/r who remembers this?
[2015-08-16 13:07:13] <Coelacanth0794> oh?
[2015-08-16 13:07:35] <ThePsionic> I didn't, but I'm happy you showed me lol
[2015-08-16 13:08:41] <Ozuzanna> I like how the pie chart says "The wikia"
[2015-08-16 13:08:42] <Ozuzanna> spot on
[2015-08-16 13:13:04] <Cook_Me_Plox> So Psi, you want to be the guy for monster infoboxes?
[2015-08-16 13:18:02] <ThePsionic> Sure
[2015-08-16 13:18:29] <Coelacanth0794> hey cook
[2015-08-16 13:18:48] <Coelacanth0794> do you care if i change the th rares that say update:none to http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Update:Treasure_Hunter_%E2%80%93_Rares_%26_Luckies_Refresh
[2015-08-16 13:18:58] <Coelacanth0794> even though they came out on the 12th not the 13th
[2015-08-16 13:19:08] <Coelacanth0794> since otherwise they dont link to the update page at all
[2015-08-16 13:20:27] <Cook_Me_Plox> which ones?
[2015-08-16 13:20:48] <TonyBest100> Gold cane all the way through to Imcamdo rod on that news article
[2015-08-16 13:21:15] <Coelacanth0794> stuff like rare item tokens, silver hawk, icnamdo cannon, etc
[2015-08-16 13:22:17] <Cook_Me_Plox> which ones don't?
[2015-08-16 13:22:51] <Cook_Me_Plox> rather, which ones are you changing
[2015-08-16 13:23:01] <Coelacanth0794> i have to assume all of those from that batch
[2015-08-16 13:23:35] <Cook_Me_Plox> [[Imcando rod]] is fine, right?
[2015-08-16 13:24:05] <Coelacanth0794> yes
[2015-08-16 13:24:21] <Cook_Me_Plox> I'm confused what you're asking then
[2015-08-16 13:25:33] <Coelacanth0794> maybe i just managed to find the only ones that werent linked properly i guess
[2015-08-16 13:25:52] <Cook_Me_Plox> I think if you make all of them be like imcando rod, everything is fine
[2015-08-16 13:27:09] <Ozuzanna> http://www.unilad.co.uk/articles/man-gives-up-living-as-a-human-to-be-a-goat/
[2015-08-16 13:28:45] <Jlun2> hm
[2015-08-16 13:29:25] <Battleben> okay so that new NPC you got cook is interesting
[2015-08-16 13:29:35] <Jlun2> ?
[2015-08-16 13:29:36] <Battleben> helped me find Tuska's cutscene model
[2015-08-16 13:29:55] <Battleben> and let's me see Vladimir's model, if he was in-game, he would be one of hte citizens laying down
[2015-08-16 13:29:58] <Battleben> uh, NPC list*
[2015-08-16 13:29:59] <Coelacanth0794> is it just a head?
[2015-08-16 13:30:02] <Battleben> sitting down*
[2015-08-16 13:30:08] <Battleben> No, full model.
[2015-08-16 13:30:12] <Coelacanth0794> really
[2015-08-16 13:30:23] <Jlun2> how large is it
[2015-08-16 13:30:30] <Battleben> Anyway, there are two Goebies called "Lefty" and "Righty" that I don't think anyone's encountered ingame
[2015-08-16 13:30:44] <Battleben> not that huge, hard to get a good image because zooming in makes parts disappear
[2015-08-16 13:30:52] <Jlun2> why not middle-y
[2015-08-16 13:30:58] <Battleben> [[Sharkey]] is also apparently on Mazcab somewhere?
[2015-08-16 13:31:01] <Coelacanth0794> those are the new hires for jatizso
[2015-08-16 13:31:22] <Battleben> No
[2015-08-16 13:31:25] <Battleben> those are Leftie and Rightie
[2015-08-16 13:31:30] <Battleben> and they're not Goebies
[2015-08-16 13:31:42] <Coelacanth0794> i was not being seious
[2015-08-16 13:31:44] <Coelacanth0794> serious*
[2015-08-16 13:31:45] <Battleben> [[Jrar Jnr]] is called "Wild Krar Jnr" before he becomes a pet.
[2015-08-16 13:33:11] <Jlun2> jar jar
[2015-08-16 13:35:56] <Coelacanth0794> jar jar jr, new in solomon's general store
[2015-08-16 13:37:54] <Battleben> holy crap
[2015-08-16 13:37:58] <Battleben> there's a rejuvenated Jhallan model
[2015-08-16 13:39:51] <Battleben> for some reaosn the name of the NPC is Khazard though..
[2015-08-16 13:41:26] <Ozuzanna> [[vampyre dust]]
[2015-08-16 13:47:04] <Coelacanth0794> dagannoth mask
[2015-08-16 13:47:10] <Coelacanth0794> not a shrukien but ill take it
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[2015-08-16 13:54:03] <Spineweilder> hmm
[2015-08-16 13:54:08] <Coelacanth0794> hi
[2015-08-16 13:54:16] <Coelacanth0794> so hows that army camp thing
[2015-08-16 13:54:28] <Jlun2> ^
[2015-08-16 13:54:31] <Spineweilder> terrible
[2015-08-16 13:54:38] <Jlun2> sorry to hear that
[2015-08-16 13:54:42] <Spineweilder> literal hell
[2015-08-16 13:54:49] <Jlun2> you were bitten a lot i presume
[2015-08-16 13:55:01] <Spineweilder> luckily theres no gympie plants amirite
[2015-08-16 13:55:08] <Jlun2> no
[2015-08-16 13:55:15] <Jlun2> malaria
[2015-08-16 13:55:27] <Spineweilder> hmm
[2015-08-16 13:55:28] <Spineweilder> jlun 
[2015-08-16 13:55:36] <Spineweilder> since yak has a higher trust limit
[2015-08-16 13:55:50] <Spineweilder> could get better DII's of some stuff
[2015-08-16 13:55:57] <Jlun2> not just yak
[2015-08-16 13:56:00] <Jlun2> terrorbird too
[2015-08-16 13:56:01] <Jlun2> 5m
[2015-08-16 13:56:07] <Jlun2> got the animation token dii like thta :D
[2015-08-16 13:56:08] <Spineweilder> or just wait till cook spam-uploads everything
[2015-08-16 13:56:16] <Jlun2> eventually ;)
[2015-08-16 13:56:32] <Spineweilder> did he already do that for the current TH promo
[2015-08-16 13:56:40] <Jlun2> no
[2015-08-16 13:56:49] <Spineweilder> is he going to
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[2015-08-16 13:57:17] <Jlun2> idk
[2015-08-16 14:00:07] <Cook_Me_Plox> I got the first 4000
[2015-08-16 14:00:14] <Cook_Me_Plox> I realized the colors are a bit off though
[2015-08-16 14:00:21] <Cook_Me_Plox> trying to figure out how to rectify that
[2015-08-16 14:00:23] <Jlun2> example?
[2015-08-16 14:00:24] <Cook_Me_Plox> or whether we even should
[2015-08-16 14:00:36] <Cook_Me_Plox> http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/File:Combat_robe_top_0_detail.png
[2015-08-16 14:01:01] <Jlun2> isnt that due to them having varied color even in game?
[2015-08-16 14:01:11] <Cook_Me_Plox> hrm?
[2015-08-16 14:01:12] <Jlun2> example: coins in dg
[2015-08-16 14:01:17] <Cook_Me_Plox> maybe, maybe not
[2015-08-16 14:01:23] <Cook_Me_Plox> the colors are clearly a little bit unsaturated
[2015-08-16 14:02:03] <Jlun2> wait
[2015-08-16 14:02:05] <Jlun2> check in game?
[2015-08-16 14:02:09] <Cook_Me_Plox> I did
[2015-08-16 14:02:12] <Cook_Me_Plox> it's clearly lighter
[2015-08-16 14:02:17] <Jlun2> oh
[2015-08-16 14:02:27] <Cook_Me_Plox> the question is whether there's some hue/saturation modification that we can do to make it look like ingame
[2015-08-16 14:03:07] <Cook_Me_Plox> ey mr gaz
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[2015-08-16 14:03:20] <Gaz_Lloyd> hi
[2015-08-16 14:03:20] <RSChatBot> Gaz Lloyd, Jlun2 told you: https://twitter.com/Maniac_Hex/status/632889202531700736/photo/1 gg
[2015-08-16 14:03:21] <Spineweilder> GIMP can do that
[2015-08-16 14:03:34] <Cook_Me_Plox> yeah spine, the question is what the values are though 
[2015-08-16 14:04:11] <Jlun2> hi
[2015-08-16 14:04:25] <Cook_Me_Plox> wanna help me write a reddit jimmy wales-style appeal gaz
[2015-08-16 14:05:25] <Gaz_Lloyd> bout wut
[2015-08-16 14:05:27] <Jlun2> need sad music, some wide eyed kids/animal pics, and maybe  pics of disasters
[2015-08-16 14:05:31] <Cook_Me_Plox> about wiki editing
[2015-08-16 14:05:37] <Cook_Me_Plox> it's part of the master plan
[2015-08-16 14:06:04] <Gaz_Lloyd> ok
[2015-08-16 14:07:03] <Spineweilder> hmm
[2015-08-16 14:07:18] <Spineweilder> you guys trying to recruit ppl into editing/
[2015-08-16 14:07:36] <Cook_Me_Plox> yes
[2015-08-16 14:08:22] <Spineweilder> won't be a very fruitful endeavor 
[2015-08-16 14:08:30] <Cook_Me_Plox> that's the spirit
[2015-08-16 14:08:40] <Cook_Me_Plox> have you considered that maybe you just suck at getting people to edit
[2015-08-16 14:08:54] <Spineweilder> i do suck at that
[2015-08-16 14:09:06] <Spineweilder> !!!
[2015-08-16 14:10:37] <Spineweilder> I'm just saying there's little incentive to edit stuff on a regular basis
[2015-08-16 14:11:45] <Spineweilder> but if you get someone to stay here forever with us
[2015-08-16 14:11:49] <Spineweilder> i'll give you 1gp
[2015-08-16 14:13:09] <Spineweilder> in other news
[2015-08-16 14:13:44] <Cook_Me_Plox> did you and atheist hook up yet
[2015-08-16 14:14:00] <Spineweilder> I'm having a bit of difficulty
[2015-08-16 14:14:08] <Spineweilder> but I think he's about to give in
[2015-08-16 14:14:11] <Spineweilder> (H)
[2015-08-16 14:14:14] <Cook_Me_Plox> ((H))
[2015-08-16 14:14:22] <Spineweilder> anyway
[2015-08-16 14:14:25] <Spineweilder> so jagex has done little to nothing with us since that fated skype call months ago
[2015-08-16 14:14:26] <Spineweilder> right
[2015-08-16 14:14:29] <Cook_Me_Plox> correct
[2015-08-16 14:14:35] <Cook_Me_Plox> they have not responded to my last few proddings
[2015-08-16 14:14:57] <Jlun2> cook which interaction is worse
[2015-08-16 14:15:03] <Jlun2> wikia or jagex staff?
[2015-08-16 14:15:05] <Cook_Me_Plox> wikia or jagex?
[2015-08-16 14:15:11] <Cook_Me_Plox> wikia because they're actively destructive
[2015-08-16 14:15:31] <Cook_Me_Plox> jagex was bad for a while but the only thing they did that absolutely screwed us was the official wiki
[2015-08-16 14:15:48] <Cook_Me_Plox> I wish Jagex would actually talk to us once in a while, but whatever
[2015-08-16 14:16:17] <Spineweilder> dream on, cook. dream on :(
[2015-08-16 14:16:27] <Spineweilder> give 'em a piece of your mind
[2015-08-16 14:18:30] <Battleben> http://i.imgur.com/hyJWyCV.png unused Jhallan model
[2015-08-16 14:18:49] <Spineweilder> Jlun*
[2015-08-16 14:19:09] <Jlun2> what
[2015-08-16 14:19:16] <Cook_Me_Plox> nah ben that's Wahisietel
[2015-08-16 14:20:29] <Battleben> Nah it's Khazard according to the name of the NPC
[2015-08-16 14:20:41] <Spineweilder> Can't be, it must be ________
[2015-08-16 14:21:04] <Jlun2> V
[2015-08-16 14:21:09] <Spineweilder> a
[2015-08-16 14:21:20] <Cook_Me_Plox> what id, Ben?
[2015-08-16 14:21:50] <Sralse> !restart
[2015-08-16 14:21:55] <Battleben> uhhh
[2015-08-16 14:21:56] <Cook_Me_Plox> also have you ever heard of a Burgh de Rott NPC called Vladimir?
[2015-08-16 14:22:09] <Jlun2> russian
[2015-08-16 14:22:35] <Battleben> 14357
[2015-08-16 14:22:45] <Battleben> Yes, Vladimir is the Burgh De Rott NPC who doesn't exist.
[2015-08-16 14:22:50] <Battleben> I was talking about him earlier
[2015-08-16 14:23:09] <Jlun2> ben
[2015-08-16 14:23:12] <Jlun2> is he on osr?
[2015-08-16 14:23:13] <Battleben> Funnily enough Jhallan rejuvenated is with 4 other Khazards, none of which are actually Khazard.
[2015-08-16 14:23:20] <Jlun2> can spine or someone check?
[2015-08-16 14:23:20] <Battleben> I doubt it, he doesn't even have a page here.
[2015-08-16 14:23:20] <Cook_Me_Plox> don't think so Jlun
[2015-08-16 14:23:26] <Cook_Me_Plox> I've been looking for him for about 4 years, lol
[2015-08-16 14:23:45] <Jlun2> ben try asking on reddit/forums?
[2015-08-16 14:24:05] <Cook_Me_Plox> asking what
[2015-08-16 14:24:36] <Battleben> Vladimir is and always has been unused as far as I know
[2015-08-16 14:25:00] <Spineweilder> hnnngggg
[2015-08-16 14:25:03] <Battleben> I'm more interested in Victor and Helena ATM since they've apparently disappeared with the last update regardless of quest status.
[2015-08-16 14:25:52] <Battleben> http://imgur.com/a/t2n3k unused Armadyl death cutscene models
[2015-08-16 14:26:53] <Jlun2> stoned
[2015-08-16 14:28:12] <Cook_Me_Plox> lol
[2015-08-16 14:29:19] <Sralse> 69 Quest points haha
[2015-08-16 14:29:41] <Cook_Me_Plox> Hey Sralse
[2015-08-16 14:30:09] <Sralse> Hi CMP
[2015-08-16 14:30:34] <Coelacanth0794> cool ben
[2015-08-16 14:30:47] <Cook_Me_Plox> Why did you make an account?
[2015-08-16 14:30:55] <Sralse> On?
[2015-08-16 14:30:59] <Jlun2> btw spine
[2015-08-16 14:30:59] <Jlun2> http://services.runescape.com/m=news/god-caps--order-now-for-an-in-game-cosmetic?jptg=ia&jptv=community_news
[2015-08-16 14:31:14] <Jlun2> "Order before September 10th and you'll earn an exclusive in-game head-slot cosmetic, themed after the faction whose cap has proven the most popular. "
[2015-08-16 14:31:20] <Jlun2> new way to mtx in case you missed it
[2015-08-16 14:31:44] <Cook_Me_Plox> On here
[2015-08-16 14:31:50] <Cook_Me_Plox> I'm just curious what spurs someone to sign up
[2015-08-16 14:31:57] <Battleben> wonder if Jhallan rejuvenated has a chathead
[2015-08-16 14:32:11] <Cook_Me_Plox> uhh
[2015-08-16 14:32:13] <Cook_Me_Plox> what's the id?
[2015-08-16 14:32:15] <Cook_Me_Plox> oh you told me
[2015-08-16 14:33:12] <Sralse> The chat, I wanted some insight in what I was doing. Was going to do. So I needed an account for chat which I made, as there are no downsides to doing that. Also Im a frequent visitor of the wikia, so thats why it couldt do any harm.
[2015-08-16 14:33:22] <Sralse> couldnt
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[2015-08-16 14:34:07] <Cook_Me_Plox> 58593;58396; @ Ben
[2015-08-16 14:35:15] <Cook_Me_Plox> Cool, that's very helpful Sralse
[2015-08-16 14:35:21] <Sralse> No problemo.
[2015-08-16 14:35:43] <Cook_Me_Plox> Do you think you would have been more inclined to edit if there was something on every page with a list of things you could help edit?
[2015-08-16 14:36:46] <Sralse> I don't understand the question as comprehensive reading is quite hard for me. Im currently enjoying the game for a bit. Then I need to do some work, probably Ill begin the article tonight.
[2015-08-16 14:37:03] <Cook_Me_Plox> Okay
[2015-08-16 14:37:14] <Cook_Me_Plox> The question is, if there was a little module on every page that you visited
[2015-08-16 14:37:23] <Cook_Me_Plox> That said "Hey, you can help out by editing ____"
[2015-08-16 14:37:34] <Cook_Me_Plox> Would that be interesting or attractive to you?
[2015-08-16 14:37:54] <Sralse> Its fine the way it is now. For me anyways.
[2015-08-16 14:38:06] <Jlun2> @cook
[2015-08-16 14:38:06] <Jlun2> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banner_blindness
[2015-08-16 14:38:06] <Jlun2> no
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[2015-08-16 14:38:34] <Jlun2> a way to reduce that might help
[2015-08-16 14:38:57] <Spineweilder> hmm
[2015-08-16 14:39:10] <Spineweilder> as long as it's not overly intrusive 
[2015-08-16 14:39:28] <Spineweilder> could be like the thing that pops up when your talk page is edited
[2015-08-16 14:39:41] <Cook_Me_Plox> the current idea is that it would replace the article rating module
[2015-08-16 14:39:42] <Cook_Me_Plox> which nobody uses
[2015-08-16 14:39:49] <Jlun2> >.<
[2015-08-16 14:39:53] <Jlun2> i cant even find it
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[2015-08-16 14:41:18] <Cook_Me_Plox> what?
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[2015-08-16 14:43:33] <TonyBest100> Hmm, Loot interface will pick up the pet dropping as a normal item, in the same way as telegrabbing them :P
[2015-08-16 14:43:42] <Jlun2> tony
[2015-08-16 14:43:44] <Jlun2> old
[2015-08-16 14:43:45] <Jlun2> lol
[2015-08-16 14:43:57] <Jlun2> got over a hundred droppings like that
[2015-08-16 14:44:04] <Coelacanth0794> what
[2015-08-16 14:44:09] <Jlun2> [[pet droppings[[
[2015-08-16 14:44:27] <Spineweilder> [[pet droppings]]
[2015-08-16 14:44:29] <Spineweilder> fail
[2015-08-16 14:54:24] <Coelacanth0794> why did the client close itself?
[2015-08-16 14:54:44] <Coelacanth0794> for fuck sake
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[2015-08-16 14:58:10] <Jlun2> hey you had that too?
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[2015-08-16 15:04:25] <Spineweilder> hmm
[2015-08-16 15:06:24] <Cook_Me_Plox> yo spine
[2015-08-16 15:06:29] <Spineweilder> yo cook
[2015-08-16 15:06:51] <Cook_Me_Plox> do you have any suggestions for projects that new editors can do/help with?
[2015-08-16 15:08:16] <Jlun2> yes
[2015-08-16 15:08:21] <Battleben> updating monster combat levels
[2015-08-16 15:08:21] <Jlun2> update /strategy
[2015-08-16 15:08:37] <Jlun2> example like what alchz did for hellhounds
[2015-08-16 15:09:05] <Spineweilder> that depends
[2015-08-16 15:09:36] <Spineweilder> have we completely updated the new drop tables for bm/yaka?
[2015-08-16 15:10:44] <Coelacanth0794> client crashed again
[2015-08-16 15:10:53] <Coelacanth0794> why would it be so crashy anyways?
[2015-08-16 15:11:00] <Spineweilder> or if you're lower lv you could be doing quests with our quest guides and see if they're understandable or something
[2015-08-16 15:11:03] <Coelacanth0794> surely they'd have tried to fix that by now.
[2015-08-16 15:11:16] <Jlun2> coel something something spaghetti code
[2015-08-16 15:11:24] <Jlun2> they still havent fixed the familar bug
[2015-08-16 15:11:25] <Jlun2> so yea
[2015-08-16 15:11:36] <Coelacanth0794> feed spaghetti code to starving programmers and engineer a non crashing system
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[2015-08-16 15:16:36] <Ozuzanna> coel you talk about the client crashing like every day
[2015-08-16 15:16:50] <Coelacanth0794> it crashes everyday
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[2015-08-16 15:33:46] <Jlun2> [[Death Lotus Training]]
[2015-08-16 15:33:46] <Jr_Mime> http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Adambein
[2015-08-16 15:33:46] <Jr_Mime> RS:DDD best
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[2015-08-16 15:36:12] <Cook_Me_Plox> psst star
[2015-08-16 15:36:58] <Battleben> http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Adambein?diff=next&oldid=14413685 wut
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[2015-08-16 15:41:52] <Jlun2> nice
[2015-08-16 15:42:00] <Jlun2> 10 ppl met at airport with 3ds
[2015-08-16 15:42:04] <Jlun2> 9*
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[2015-08-16 15:51:18] <Jlun2> https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/3h7hsi/when_you_can_afford_maxed_account_but_not_gear/
[2015-08-16 15:51:25] <Jlun2> hey reminds me of a certain user on RSW
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[2015-08-16 16:09:46] <Sralse> It never crashes for me!
[2015-08-16 16:10:44] <Sralse> Im using the Unix launcher
[2015-08-16 16:12:32] <Starieeena> Cook Me Plox: psst star
[2015-08-16 16:12:34] <Starieeena> ??
[2015-08-16 16:14:51] <TonyBest100> http://i.imgur.com/EIBVtJI.jpg So true
[2015-08-16 16:18:20] <Starieeena> sequel is overdue
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[2015-08-16 16:24:50] <Spineweilder> hnnnggg
[2015-08-16 16:25:18] <Spineweilder> wow tony
[2015-08-16 16:25:23] <Spineweilder> how could you forget the baby
[2015-08-16 16:38:08] <Cook_Me_Plox> hai
[2015-08-16 16:38:44] <Cook_Me_Plox> @Starieeena: did I ever show you how to use things to get a list of new items/npcs for every update
[2015-08-16 16:39:51] <Ozuzanna> "Also, you should keep quiet about the conviction, especially online. It may be public knowledge, but there's a difference between "public knowledge" someone can find out by going to the archives of a specific courthouse, and stuff that comes up in the first five pages when they google your name. If you have a @fuckdapolice Twitter account, get rid of it."
[2015-08-16 16:39:53] <Ozuzanna> ([[]]H)
[2015-08-16 16:41:45] <Starieeena> uh
[2015-08-16 16:41:51] <Starieeena> no
[2015-08-16 16:42:09] <Starieeena> you showed me your list
[2015-08-16 16:42:22] <Cook_Me_Plox> oh
[2015-08-16 16:42:30] <Cook_Me_Plox> well basically whenever there's a new update
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[2015-08-16 16:42:47] <Cook_Me_Plox> we can get a list of items, npcs, monsters, and models/images that have been updated
[2015-08-16 16:43:12] <Cook_Me_Plox> just thinking about how we can streamline the new updates process
[2015-08-16 16:43:18] <Cook_Me_Plox> what would be helpful? more people working on it?
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[2015-08-16 16:46:28] <Sralse> Im hungry
[2015-08-16 16:53:39] <Starieeena> eat food
[2015-08-16 16:53:46] <Starieeena> sure cook
[2015-08-16 16:54:40] <Sralse> Ill do! But did you guys know there is more as one timeline going on in runescape?
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[2015-08-16 17:10:29] <Atheist723> Did you see the mention on tumblr, Starieeena?
[2015-08-16 17:11:02] <Starieeena> no
[2015-08-16 17:11:16] <Atheist723> I have no idea how "mention" works.
[2015-08-16 17:11:24] <Atheist723> Do you just link to someone's blog?
[2015-08-16 17:12:10] <Starieeena> i have no clue tbh
[2015-08-16 17:12:26] <Cook_Me_Plox> guys 
[2015-08-16 17:12:30] <Cook_Me_Plox> where can I get custom printed socks
[2015-08-16 17:12:47] <Atheist723> ThePsionic linked to my blog and I got the mention notification: http://tumblr.thepsionic.com/post/125944189415/tesladyneindustries-idea-a-teleportation
[2015-08-16 17:13:06] <Atheist723> So I tried to do it here: http://voidtorcher.tumblr.com/post/126775949913/kalphite-king-wiki-event
[2015-08-16 17:13:08] <Starieeena> where is the notification
[2015-08-16 17:13:20] <Starieeena> it's not in my tags, not that i check them anyways
[2015-08-16 17:13:30] <Starieeena> cook pls
[2015-08-16 17:13:48] <Starieeena> http://www.sockprints.com/
[2015-08-16 17:15:33] <Atheist723> http://i.imgur.com/H1lNdHw.png
[2015-08-16 17:15:38] <Atheist723> Shows up like this for me.
[2015-08-16 17:15:42] <Atheist723> In activity.
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[2015-08-16 17:16:31] <Starieeena> oh
[2015-08-16 17:16:49] <Starieeena> i don't check my activity cus' too much there
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[2015-08-16 17:18:27] <Atheist723> You're making me jealous.
[2015-08-16 17:20:53] <Starieeena> ;-;
[2015-08-16 17:24:48] <Gaz_Lloyd> do you even tumbl
[2015-08-16 17:29:21] <Atheist723> Gaz Lloyd: ?
[2015-08-16 17:29:29] <Gaz_Lloyd> hi
[2015-08-16 17:34:31] <Starieeena> ((H))
[2015-08-16 17:37:33] <Battleben> should I upload Jhallan's unused rejuvenated model?
[2015-08-16 17:38:13] <Atheist723> I don't think so...
[2015-08-16 17:38:52] <Battleben> we already have [[File:Bilrach skeletal.png]]
[2015-08-16 17:54:04] <Atheist723> http://i.imgur.com/3fBWJIe.png
[2015-08-16 17:54:09] <Atheist723> Stay classy, #selfiescape.
[2015-08-16 18:01:43] <Starieeena> lol
[2015-08-16 18:02:48] <Battleben> eh whatever yolo
[2015-08-16 18:04:18] <Sralse> Gaz
[2015-08-16 18:04:24] <Gaz_Lloyd> hi
[2015-08-16 18:04:52] <Sralse> On the wikia, they say only admins can operate the chatbot? Is that true? So there are no commnds for me?
[2015-08-16 18:05:00] <Sralse> And hi :D
[2015-08-16 18:05:21] <Gaz_Lloyd> !help
[2015-08-16 18:05:29] <Gaz_Lloyd> !commands
[2015-08-16 18:05:29] <RSChatBot> Gaz Lloyd, all defined commands are: !quit, !plugins, !ignore (.*), !unignore (.*), !commands, !source|^src|^git(?:hub)?, !updatelogs, !logs, !updated, !seenon, !seenoff, !tell ([^ ]+) (.+), !seen (.*), !tellon, !telloff. (Confused? Learn regex!)
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[2015-08-16 18:05:46] <Gaz_Lloyd> you have access to tell and seen
[2015-08-16 18:06:04] <Mage_Hybrid> is anyone here good with abuse filters?
[2015-08-16 18:06:04] <RSChatBot> Mage Hybrid, Spineweilder told you: u noob
[2015-08-16 18:06:20] <Mage_Hybrid> !tell Spineweilder uwot
[2015-08-16 18:06:21] <RSChatBot> Mage Hybrid: I'll tell Spineweilder that the next time I see them.
[2015-08-16 18:08:47] <Starieeena> !updatelogs
[2015-08-16 18:08:47] <RSChatBot> Starieeena: [[Project:Chat/Logs|Logs]] updated (added ~17 to log page).
[2015-08-16 18:09:19] <Sralse> okay
[2015-08-16 18:11:31] <Sralse> !updatelogs
[2015-08-16 18:11:55] <Mage_Hybrid> someone pls
[2015-08-16 18:12:00] <Sralse> Looks like its not working for me, so thats what I mean haha
[2015-08-16 18:12:15] <Sralse> I also used !tell
[2015-08-16 18:12:25] <Sralse> But it didnt respind anything
[2015-08-16 18:12:29] <Sralse> *respond
[2015-08-16 18:13:45] <Atheist723> It doesn't work like that.
[2015-08-16 18:14:01] <Atheist723> Oh wait, you've seen people using it.
[2015-08-16 18:14:08] <Atheist723> That's odd.
[2015-08-16 18:14:17] <Sralse> yeah I can see it
[2015-08-16 18:14:33] <Atheist723> !tell Sralse test
[2015-08-16 18:14:33] <RSChatBot> Atheist723: I'll tell Sralse that the next time I see them.
[2015-08-16 18:14:43] <Sralse> Test
[2015-08-16 18:14:44] <RSChatBot> Sralse, Atheist723 told you: test
[2015-08-16 18:14:53] <Sralse> I can see you saying that
[2015-08-16 18:15:00] <Sralse> !tell Sralse test
[2015-08-16 18:15:00] <RSChatBot> Sralse: You can't !tell yourself something!
[2015-08-16 18:15:04] <Sralse> Look
[2015-08-16 18:15:08] <Sralse> Thats odd
[2015-08-16 18:15:13] <Sralse> First time it responded
[2015-08-16 18:15:33] <Mage_Hybrid> you need to type the name right
[2015-08-16 18:16:15] <Sralse> ik
[2015-08-16 18:16:33] <Sralse> It responded me: Sralse: You can't !tell yourself something!
[2015-08-16 18:17:01] <Sralse> Could you try a wrong thing?
[2015-08-16 18:17:07] <Sralse> To see if I can see it
[2015-08-16 18:17:16] <Sralse> Like !tell yourself something
[2015-08-16 18:17:47] <Mage_Hybrid> wrong thing?
[2015-08-16 18:17:58] <Sralse> Say a command that doesnt work
[2015-08-16 18:18:02] <Mage_Hybrid> !tell Mage Hybrid hi
[2015-08-16 18:18:02] <RSChatBot> Mage Hybrid: I'll tell Mage that the next time I see them.
[2015-08-16 18:18:17] <Mage_Hybrid> .
[2015-08-16 18:18:21] <Sralse> !tell Mage Hybrid hi
[2015-08-16 18:18:22] <RSChatBot> Sralse: I'll tell Mage that the next time I see them.
[2015-08-16 18:18:30] <Mage_Hybrid> .
[2015-08-16 18:18:33] <Sralse> u said !tell Mage Hybrid hi
[2015-08-16 18:18:42] <Mage_Hybrid> odd
[2015-08-16 18:18:47] <Sralse> Lol
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[2015-08-16 18:30:51] <Sralse> Found a interesting visual glitch
[2015-08-16 18:32:15] <Sralse> When you have the resting emote "Deckchair resting" enabled, and you teleport in front of you with the magic ability, you appear to be a deckchair moving at superspeed forward hhaha
[2015-08-16 18:33:59] <Battleben> I think I recall seeing a gif of that.
[2015-08-16 18:34:39] <Sralse> Link me if you'd know where it is haha
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[2015-08-16 18:41:12] <ChaoticShadow> @sralse, you have to put underscores instead of spaces or else the chatbot'll think you wnat to tell "Mage", "Hybrid hi" (using what you did before as example)
[2015-08-16 18:41:38] <Sralse> Okay, so you can see the commands too then?
[2015-08-16 18:44:49] <ChaoticShadow> Yea anyone can see the commands, it's also shown in the logs
[2015-08-16 18:45:00] <Sralse> Mage cant see them
[2015-08-16 18:45:04] <Sralse> He says
[2015-08-16 18:45:48] <ChaoticShadow> i dunno
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[2015-08-16 19:11:04] <Atheist723> http://i.imgur.com/ld6rLul.png
[2015-08-16 19:11:07] <Atheist723> Why?
[2015-08-16 19:11:44] <Sralse> Why what?
[2015-08-16 19:12:08] <Atheist723> Why do you get 25% more xp in those skills?
[2015-08-16 19:12:29] <Sralse> Idk
[2015-08-16 19:12:48] <Sralse> Why do programmers program?
[2015-08-16 19:13:47] <Starieeena> because it's the death lotus thing athe
[2015-08-16 19:14:36] <TonyBest100> Athe, it's part of the Death Lotus Training promo
[2015-08-16 19:15:02] <TonyBest100> "Over this time, there's +25% XP from Treasure Hunter lamps and stars used on Agility, Thieving, Ranged and Slayer too!"
[2015-08-16 19:15:09] <Atheist723> Ah.
[2015-08-16 19:15:24] <Atheist723> I'm going to go to sleep early today...
[2015-08-16 19:15:31] <Atheist723> *Is 3:15 a.m.*
[2015-08-16 19:19:36] <Sralse> Sleep well
[2015-08-16 19:24:12] <Ozuzanna> https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/580881_484568541553602_287944898_n.jpg?oh=baa213d866dfd4113406bc88164c1d71&oe=56440C99
[2015-08-16 19:24:56] <ChaoticShadow> rip orange
[2015-08-16 19:36:59] <Cook_Me_Plox> star: apparently subreddit traffic is actually *lowest* on saturday and sunday so I'm gonna hold off on doing the thing until monday or tuesday
[2015-08-16 19:37:13] <Starieeena> ok
[2015-08-16 19:37:38] <Starieeena> (y)
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[2015-08-16 19:42:44] <Scuzzy_Beta> OMG OMG SO HYPE
[2015-08-16 19:42:52] <Scuzzy_Beta> http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/File:Jhallan_rejuvenated.png BEST MAHJARRAT REJUVINATED
[2015-08-16 19:44:18] <Scuzzy_Beta> ty ben for that
[2015-08-16 19:44:52] <Scuzzy_Beta> thats all i really came in here for.
[2015-08-16 19:44:53] <Scuzzy_Beta> cya.
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[2015-08-16 21:08:02] <ThePsionic> [[morvran]]
[2015-08-16 21:28:59] <ChaoticShadow> wtf "Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information."
[2015-08-16 21:46:06] <Ozuzanna> [[moran]]
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[2015-08-16 22:28:08] <Ozuzanna> .
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