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[2016-12-10 00:07:55] <TonyBest100> Hmm, that's a first, getting the outdated graphics driver message on NXT client now
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[2016-12-10 00:13:45] <TonyBest100> Hmm, gotta restart laptop for update
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[2016-12-10 00:57:00] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> hey tony? you can skip the tutorial nowindays right?
[2016-12-10 00:57:05] <Gaz_Lloyd> yes
[2016-12-10 00:57:08] <TonyBest100> Yeah
[2016-12-10 00:57:33] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> okay good, I've done that stupid island tutorial more than one time, gets on the nerves, as I said, just drop me in lummy and let me go
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[2016-12-10 01:33:12] <Deltaslug> everyone's away?
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[2016-12-10 05:25:38] <Jlun2> !tell gaz_lloyd hey, since you started HCIM, do you think http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/File:Slug_prince_safespot.png is still needed, or nah completely harmless?
[2016-12-10 05:25:38] <RSChatBot> Jlun2: I'll tell gaz lloyd that the next time I see them.
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[2016-12-10 14:31:51] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> hi everyone
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[2016-12-10 14:32:54] <Battleben> hi
[2016-12-10 14:36:40] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> how are you?
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[2016-12-10 14:38:42] <Fswe1> Why is Santa's chathead protected?
[2016-12-10 14:42:20] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> Turael still doesn't give out slayer points right?
[2016-12-10 14:42:51] <Fswe1> Nay
[2016-12-10 14:43:27] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> I can't remember...you don't actually need to receive points to level up the skill do you?
[2016-12-10 14:43:40] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> you just have to...well kill the slayer target to get exp?
[2016-12-10 14:45:18] <TonyBest100> Yeah, just kill the assigned target and you'll get xp, when the task is complete you'll get points which can be spent on rewards such as full slayer helmets, upgrades for the helmet and other stuff
[2016-12-10 14:45:45] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> except when it's tasks from Turael and his daughter yes?
[2016-12-10 14:45:53] <Battleben> it's protected because it's used on mainpage during certain thigns I think
[2016-12-10 14:46:16] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> I suppose they're meant to ease you into slayer without worrying about points? idk
[2016-12-10 14:46:51] <Fswe1> Hm
[2016-12-10 14:46:56] <Fswe1> I've a new version of it
[2016-12-10 14:47:00] <Fswe1> Not sure if it's better though
[2016-12-10 14:47:47] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> considering the combat level needed to contact the uh...one in canifis
[2016-12-10 14:47:53] <Fswe1> http://fusswell.wikia.com/wiki/File:Santa2.png
[2016-12-10 14:48:42] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> slayer masters don't ever tell you that you're probably a bit too high for their tasks right...?
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[2016-12-10 14:49:15] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> never really...did slayer so I'm confused as to what I do with it
[2016-12-10 14:50:33] <TonyBest100> If you're a higher level then they'll direct you to someone who would be a better choice for your level, like Vanakka in Edgeville Dungeon or the fairy (can't remember name) in Zanaris
[2016-12-10 14:51:05] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> ah okay, so basically they will say; you're a bit too weak for my tasks, go to (name here)?
[2016-12-10 14:51:10] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> er strong *
[2016-12-10 14:51:13] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> meant strong xD
[2016-12-10 14:52:09] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> so turael eventually will send me to the...guy...girl...? demon thing in canifis...
[2016-12-10 14:52:27] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> guy, he's a guy, lol 
[2016-12-10 14:53:03] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> Mazchna, I always either mistook him for a girl or forgot entirely he was a demon
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[2016-12-10 14:55:30] <TonyBest100> I think he'll direct you over to Edgeville for tasks and not Mazcha
[2016-12-10 14:56:19] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> edgeville...? which one is there...oh Vannaka
[2016-12-10 14:56:30] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> well...I mean if you hit 40 combat by then, sure
[2016-12-10 14:56:48] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> but at 20 combat, you'd think he'd send you to mazchna
[2016-12-10 14:57:07] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> and priest in peril is such a short quest *shrug*
[2016-12-10 14:58:43] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> iirc, you can either do that quest or just kill the ghoul in the way to enter canifis?
[2016-12-10 15:01:02] <TonyBest100> Yeah, you can just kill the ghoul in the way to get over to Canifis
[2016-12-10 15:05:42] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> ah, hm forgot what PiP gave...
[2016-12-10 15:06:08] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> oh prayer exp and the wolfsbane dagger
[2016-12-10 15:06:09] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> ...ehhh
[2016-12-10 15:06:34] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> I mean if I was killing the wolves of canifis maybe, but as it stands...can you do the quest after killing the ghoul?
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[2016-12-10 15:25:54] <TonyBest100> Yeah
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[2016-12-10 15:27:43] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> hm, doesn't matter then I suppose
[2016-12-10 15:28:10] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> besides, if you get a slayer quest for the wolves, they gotta be in wolf form anyways which the dagger prevents so
[2016-12-10 15:28:11] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> yeah
[2016-12-10 15:28:44] <Deltaslug> does make you wonder what the wolfsbane dagger is really good for?
[2016-12-10 15:42:01] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> besides keeping them in human form so they hit a little less harder? sometimes
[2016-12-10 15:44:27] <Deltaslug> Could also be a weapon a strength/def pure willing to use prayer uses.  (at least till str pure hits 55-60 Str) It's one of the low level weapons with a prayer bonus.
[2016-12-10 15:44:36] <Deltaslug> few low level weapons
[2016-12-10 15:46:44] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> that's very true
[2016-12-10 15:47:18] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> hm...swords can be slash or stab right?
[2016-12-10 15:48:20] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> Oh wait...
[2016-12-10 15:48:27] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> I was thinking of shortsword vs longsword
[2016-12-10 15:48:31] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> oops xD
[2016-12-10 15:49:12] <Deltaslug> not anymore, ... EOC
[2016-12-10 15:49:30] <Deltaslug> OSRS kept the ability for weapons to change styles
[2016-12-10 15:49:39] <Deltaslug> RS3, the weapons only use a single style
[2016-12-10 15:50:47] <Deltaslug> tbh, I'm not sure I've seen any monsters that were classified as "Weak to melee" in general, even if they were "weak to crush" have it make much of a difference if I use a Maul or Spear or 2h Sword on them
[2016-12-10 15:51:01] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> hmmm
[2016-12-10 15:51:22] <Deltaslug> the only time it matters is if they have a mechanic that required you to kill them that way
[2016-12-10 15:51:33] <Deltaslug> ie: golems from [[Spirits of Elid]]
[2016-12-10 15:51:34] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> so now short sword is stab, and longsword is...slash?
[2016-12-10 15:51:39] <Deltaslug> yeah
[2016-12-10 15:51:46] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> or would it be easier to get a bronze scimitar...
[2016-12-10 15:51:49] <Deltaslug> maces and warhammers are crush
[2016-12-10 15:51:56] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> can you wield a scimitar and a shield?
[2016-12-10 15:52:01] <Deltaslug> scimitars are slash
[2016-12-10 15:52:05] <Deltaslug> yes
[2016-12-10 15:52:12] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> hmmm...
[2016-12-10 15:52:17] <Deltaslug> but for general combat, you kinda ask "why"
[2016-12-10 15:52:28] <Deltaslug> dps rules the game, always has.
[2016-12-10 15:52:33] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> why when everyone uses whips later on anyways xD
[2016-12-10 15:52:45] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> or well used to
[2016-12-10 15:52:57] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> back in OSRS, having the dragon whip was OP 
[2016-12-10 15:53:05] <Deltaslug> Abyssal whip is Level 70 atk.  there aren't many offhands for 70-74 attack
[2016-12-10 15:53:14] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> abyssal whip, yeah that one, sorry
[2016-12-10 15:53:14] <Deltaslug> other than what you can win on treasure hunter
[2016-12-10 15:53:29] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> it's been a looong time since I've played RS, lol
[2016-12-10 15:53:36] <Deltaslug> but, people still use the whip because it's easy to get/cheap
[2016-12-10 15:53:57] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> do people still do whip matches in the arena?
[2016-12-10 15:54:01] <Deltaslug> once you hit 75 atk, usually suggested to upgrade to like a Godsword, Sara Sword, or Zammy spear
[2016-12-10 15:54:16] <Deltaslug> probably.
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[2016-12-10 15:54:37] <Deltaslug> but a serious piece of advice: you might not want to get too emotionally attached to the whip
[2016-12-10 15:54:51] <Deltaslug> though it can be upgraded to the Abyssal Vine Whip (T75)
[2016-12-10 15:54:58] <Deltaslug> and the Lava Whip (T85)
[2016-12-10 15:55:12] <Deltaslug> are you playing osrs or rs3?
[2016-12-10 15:55:21] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> gonna be playing RS3
[2016-12-10 15:55:21] <Deltaslug> ... btw ... are you playing OSRS or RS3?
[2016-12-10 15:55:41] <Deltaslug> then in that case, a lot of what you know for the combat mechanics have changed
[2016-12-10 15:55:57] <Deltaslug> you'll need to get used to using 2 handed weapons more, or dual wielding
[2016-12-10 15:56:43] <Deltaslug> I've seen a discussion like this on the RS forums.  and they are right, the use of shields are really only for certain boss battles (like Yakamaru, Durzag, some quest bosses)
[2016-12-10 15:57:21] <Deltaslug> Defenders were made to allow a hybrid of using def abilities and dual wield abilities.  you trade off some overall DPS to use abilities like Resonance
[2016-12-10 15:58:37] <Deltaslug> where as in OSRS and pre-EOC, the one handed weapons like the Abyssal Whip, and later the Chaotic Rapier were king because of attack speed, and you boosted your acc and dmg (with a hint of def) using a defender (DFS for just a focus on str and def)
[2016-12-10 15:59:01] <Deltaslug> and that combo you always did better than a godsword
[2016-12-10 15:59:27] <Deltaslug> the only reason you used the Godswords (the other top tier melee weapon at the time) was because of the bonus effects
[2016-12-10 15:59:33] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> didn't there used to be like a 2h sword that provided some defensive abilities in OSRS?
[2016-12-10 15:59:53] <Deltaslug> I have no idea about OSRS since the split
[2016-12-10 16:00:09] <Deltaslug> I know what OSRS is.  I know that it was originally RS2007.
[2016-12-10 16:00:16] <Deltaslug> then they gradually added lots and lots of updates
[2016-12-10 16:00:24] <Deltaslug> some of which were "like RS3" (GE, etc)
[2016-12-10 16:01:10] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> yeah...you don't want to see the ORIGINAL old school runescape
[2016-12-10 16:01:13] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> that...that was rough
[2016-12-10 16:01:28] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> crafting and stuff caused fatigue, you had to rest, just a bunch of other blech
[2016-12-10 16:01:30] <Deltaslug> I've been playing Runescape since the time the God Wars was released
[2016-12-10 16:02:42] <Deltaslug> yeah, they try to introduce mechanics to counter botting/macros, but eventually remove them because they hinder actual user gameplay
[2016-12-10 16:02:54] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> OSRS is one thing...runescape classic is another ballpark
[2016-12-10 16:03:02] <Deltaslug> I've ... visited RSC
[2016-12-10 16:03:05] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> runescape classic is what turned into 07 runescape
[2016-12-10 16:03:23] <Deltaslug> I'm well aware of the history of runescape (spent a lot of time on the wikia)
[2016-12-10 16:03:40] <Deltaslug> 9 years myself
[2016-12-10 16:03:42] <Deltaslug> so
[2016-12-10 16:04:04] <Deltaslug> but, in terms of combat, have you visited Lumbridge Combat Academy yet on RS3?
[2016-12-10 16:04:44] <Deltaslug> what are your atk and str?
[2016-12-10 16:04:58] <Deltaslug> (otherwise, kinda hard to make suggestions for stuff)
[2016-12-10 16:05:03] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> ...fresh account so...
[2016-12-10 16:05:15] <Deltaslug> ok
[2016-12-10 16:05:18] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> 1 and 1, lol
[2016-12-10 16:05:21] <Deltaslug> then def do combat academy
[2016-12-10 16:05:32] <Deltaslug> you can free xp for training there too
[2016-12-10 16:05:51] <Deltaslug> the ashdale tutorial is a little wierd
[2016-12-10 16:07:28] <Deltaslug> could go and do [[The Blood Pact]], that would give ya a Level 5 equiv main hand and off hand to play with on melee
[2016-12-10 16:07:42] <Deltaslug> (Level 5 stats, Level 1 ... 2) to wield
[2016-12-10 16:08:07] <Deltaslug> though RS3 and OSRS and RSC skill progression from LEvel 1-10 or 20 is pretty quick anyways
[2016-12-10 16:09:53] <Deltaslug> I'm one of those wierdos that used Quests as a dual excuse to "train" and "do something" at the same time.  SOme quests, the XP reward can be kinda close to the XP you would have earned if you had actually been training.  you get the xp for semi-free.  epecially for artisan skills, slow gathering skills, or even prayer
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[2016-12-10 17:25:10] <Gaz_Lloyd> crafting causing fatigue was classic
[2016-12-10 17:25:10] <RSChatBot> Gaz Lloyd, Jlun2 wanted to tell you @ 2016-12-10 05:25:38 UTC: hey, since you started HCIM, do you think http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/File:Slug_prince_safespot.png is still needed, or nah completely harmless?
[2016-12-10 17:35:51] <Gaz_Lloyd> useful for really low levels i guess but its really trivial
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[2016-12-10 18:00:47] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> well yeah, that's what we were talking about
[2016-12-10 18:00:52] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> how RSC was
[2016-12-10 18:00:57] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> ...those were...fun days
[2016-12-10 18:01:03] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> I guess, lol
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[2016-12-10 18:09:12] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> but yeah, played RS back when it was classic, then played 07 RS, then EoC but not...whatever it is now I guess?
[2016-12-10 18:23:29] <Jlun2> [[runespan]]
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[2016-12-10 18:30:08] <Jlun2> hey gaz can you please help me
[2016-12-10 18:30:17] <Jlun2> how do i change the settings so that when i upload
[2016-12-10 18:30:24] <Jlun2> it will stop asking if i want to watch the file
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[2016-12-10 19:11:09] <Jlun2> hey havent seen you in a while
[2016-12-10 19:11:54] <JaydenKieran> Mm, hey. Had a little break from the game
[2016-12-10 19:14:47] <Gaz_Lloyd> yo
[2016-12-10 19:15:23] <Gaz_Lloyd> [[special:preferences]] has default watch stuff somewhere
[2016-12-10 19:16:02] <JaydenKieran> Sup Gaz
[2016-12-10 19:16:25] <Gaz_Lloyd> how's it going
[2016-12-10 19:19:02] <JaydenKieran> This Gower quest is pretty cool
[2016-12-10 19:20:54] <Gaz_Lloyd> yeah its pretty good
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[2016-12-10 19:40:56] <TonyBest100> I only disabled that option on the upload screen, then it seemed to stay that wa
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[2016-12-10 19:55:20] <SteampunkGrandmas> im on the wikia yet ive never played runescape ecks dee
[2016-12-10 20:01:56] <TonyBest100> And they come here to ask someone to unban them
[2016-12-10 20:02:30] <TonyBest100> Banned from the MLP wiki that is
[2016-12-10 20:10:07] <Jlun2> ???
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[2016-12-10 20:48:50] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> what'd I miss?
[2016-12-10 20:51:05] <Jlun2> mothing much]
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[2016-12-10 20:55:30] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> hm...I wonder...if it'd be worth it to do gathering and artisan skills before combat...not sure *thinks*
[2016-12-10 20:56:48] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> I mean...I'd be able to make the weapons and armor as they become unlocked and use them right away in that regard hm...
[2016-12-10 20:59:22] <Jlun2> do whatever i guess
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[2016-12-10 21:13:01] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> *shrugs* guess so, I mean in RS you can really do whatever 
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[2016-12-10 21:24:38] <Gaz_Lloyd> there's not much equipment you should really make for yourself
[2016-12-10 21:24:43] <JaydenKieran> Any projects being worked on on the wiki? Would love to get editing again after my hiatus :P
[2016-12-10 21:25:10] <Gaz_Lloyd> i have some things
[2016-12-10 21:26:03] <JaydenKieran> ooh?
[2016-12-10 21:26:11] <Gaz_Lloyd> http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/User:Gaz_Lloyd/Projects
[2016-12-10 21:27:16] <JaydenKieran> Ah okay, I'll take a little look later :)
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[2016-12-10 21:54:03] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> monsters have to drop dragon armor for you to get it right? afaik
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[2016-12-10 21:54:42] <Jlun2> ??
[2016-12-10 21:55:13] <Jlun2> !tell battleben hey, would you be willing to retake http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/File:Slug_prince_safespot.png or nah pointless too?
[2016-12-10 21:55:13] <RSChatBot> Jlun2: I'll tell battleben that the next time I see them.
[2016-12-10 21:55:20] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> ...I don't know how I could've worded that better...dragon armor, is the only way to get it still by monster drop, lol
[2016-12-10 21:55:28] <Jlun2> oh. nope
[2016-12-10 21:55:37] <Jlun2> iirc barb assualt has that gamble option
[2016-12-10 21:55:41] <Jlun2> and motherlode maw
[2016-12-10 21:55:49] <Jlun2> and uh..triskelion key
[2016-12-10 21:55:53] <Jlun2> or however its spelled
[2016-12-10 21:55:56] <Jlun2> also elite clues
[2016-12-10 21:56:09] <Jlun2> and uh...high level implings
[2016-12-10 21:56:12] <Jlun2> probably missing more
[2016-12-10 21:56:41] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> elite clues...hrm well
[2016-12-10 21:56:49] <Jlun2> they give dmeds
[2016-12-10 21:56:54] <Jlun2> that countts as armour :)
[2016-12-10 21:56:59] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> rofl
[2016-12-10 21:57:35] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> dragon plate with the ornament kits always look so lovely...
[2016-12-10 21:59:33] <Jlun2> oh, and [[TH]] used to drop lucky dragon amrour
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[2016-12-10 22:26:31] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> Oh yeah implings...
[2016-12-10 22:26:34] <Kayhighwindroxsforev> almost forgot about them
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[2016-12-10 23:08:02] <JaydenKieran> Removing the noseo template from pages now, from your projects page Gaz
[2016-12-10 23:08:24] <JaydenKieran> Using JaydenBot
[2016-12-10 23:08:29] <Gaz_Lloyd> ok
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