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This thread was archived on 2 May 2010 by Liquidhelium.

The wikifests are great successes for the wiki, and an outstanding opportunity for the community to get together. Over the last year and a bit, I'd say one of it's weaknesses however is the amount of time that goes into planning it, and the lack of input from the majority of the community.

As it's such a big success, I think it would serve the wiki good to get them up and out a little more often. I've spoken to Stelercus and he's not aware of anything in planning stages yet, just a few people willing to help organize the next one, so before organization begins I'd like to propose a few changes to the fest. Feel free to comment on any of them:

A) We should create an official Wikifest agenda that is open to change. Here we can create an official agenda for all wikifests, or a basic template for future ones. This would include some of the popular events and have slots open for mini-games and other big events...

  1. Meet and Greet
  2. Costume Competition
  3. Hide n' Seek
  4. Cabbage Bombing
  5. Minigame 1
  6. Minigame 2

The above is just an example, we can figure out what we officially want the template to look like

B) We host the event every month, on a routine. If the community agrees to this, we would decide on a specific date for each event and run it monthly, rather then when we have finished organizing each one as we would have the template. For instance, if the community agrees to the Wikifest being run every third Saturday of the month, we would have a fest take place every third Saturday of the month.

C) If the community see's fit to run monthly wikifests, then we will need to create a routine of users interested in taking part of the fest. I'd propose a sign up sheet for users interested in becoming fest moderators. From that list we will Systematically select those that put there name down to run the fest in turn, and the same for those that put there names down to help. This method will ensure that everyone who wishes to be a part in organizing the fest will have the opportunity to do so.

I hope you guys understand my idea clearly. Feel free to ask any questions.

Bonziiznob Talk

13:34, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Discussion

Support A,B,C - As proposer

Bonziiznob Talk

13:34, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose all - A certain schedule for each and every fest? There are updates between each fest that can change what we want to do. When Drop Parties where nerfed, we stopped using them. When FOG was added, we started doing that. I don't see any reason to create a template schedule that we change almost every time. As for having one every month, that would cause strain on the community to continuously plan them, and they would lose their shine incredibly quickly. Having seasonal fests is good. C becomes irrelevant due to my opposition to B. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 13:42, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose all - The nice thing about a party is that it's always a bit different. Making a standard like this takes away from that. As to B, having one each month also takes away from the fun. It's nice to meet everyone at a party once in 3 months, but if that party is every month... Barely anyone would show up anymore. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 14:54, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Comment While I understand the need to try and organize it, I think the idea of doing things differently each time would be nice. I also think that there defiantly needs to be some sort of leadership throughout the wikifest. From what I read, the last wikifest was lacking some (the hide and seek comes to mind). I know this was brought up in a previous forum, and many didn't like the idea of having 1 or a group of people "run it". However, for it to be successful, we need some people committed to making it a success. It is a great tool to bring in new wikians without breaking any rules. ‎20px‎AtlandyBeer.png 15:00, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps a wikigiuld that is devoted only to planning wikifest? A sort of "Party Planning Committee"? --Aburnett(Talk) 16:34, March 31, 2010 (UTC)
That would be cool too. I'm just trying to clean up it's organizational process a bit ;) 16:49, March 31, 2010 (UTC)
As far as the events go..I would suggest using the guy who sells the games stuff (the running boots, the hide and seek equipment). That would make the events a whole lot easier and more organized ‎20px‎AtlandyBeer.png 16:56, March 31, 2010 (UTC)
Him Chicken7 >talk 02:13, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

As for the template, we can change that around. It's just to put some order behind the organization. And for the month thing, we can change it to two or three months or such, that's not a biggy. Just to get some uniform consistency down would be helpful.

Bonziiznob Talk

16:51, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - Wikifests never really follow a strict schedule regardless. Zaros symbol.pngChaos Monk Talk SignCoins 250.png 04:10, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose all - Per Stelercus --willwill Talk 12:05, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

Second proposal

Let's turn the fest into a wikiguild?

Bonziiznob Talk

16:53, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Pending/Netural - I like the idea in essence, but I imagine that eventually everyone will join it and it will no longer be any different than if it was a complete community function. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 17:22, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Then if we are going to oppose community teams and such, I still think we should come up with something that will better push this organization to it's maximum potential. The better organized we are the smoother things can run, so if we can get something uniform down I think it will benefit the wikifest. I'm 100% not supporting that we don't make changes. That's not what I meant to say by the above anyways. Change is a good thing. I was just looking for something a bit uniform to go by so we can establish a sort of list of what needs to be included or done for each one. Anyways, if you have any ideas on how we can work together to create something that will allow us to organize the fest a bit better, I'd love to hear them. <3 18:42, March 31, 2010 (UTC)
I agree the main down-side of all our wikifests is the organisation factor. Although, I think future ones will be better if we implement some of the suggestions for the old one that didn't happen. One was muting the cc (for the whole fest) so that only ranks could speak. Non-ranks could always speak in-game using public chat. Another idea I think would be for the best is if there was a committee or group that organised the fest, rather than every editor here. Don't tell me that's unfair because of RS:CONSENSUS or RS:AEAE, this would make the fest a lot easier, and better planned, rather than last-minute solid plans. When we organise as a community, it's just chaos, and the fest follows suit. We could have a committee who takes suggestions and ideas from the community and then finds a way to fit them in, rather than everyone throwing their ideas on 1 page and not considering the other ones. Note, there is still an active thread about this: Forum:Wikifest Committee. I can close it if you think that we can discuss both ideas here now. Cheers, Chicken7 >talk 02:13, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
I really think a wikifest team would be most beneficial to the wikifest as a whole. I understand that everyone wants to be involved, but then it becomes pure chaos. There should be some sort of leadership (that can be voted, rotated, whichever to be fair) for each fest. Ideas from all wikians would be accepted, and see what works and what doesn't decided by the team in charge. If it is done right, then it should be really successful. ‎20px‎AtlandyBeer.png 18:38, April 2, 2010 (UTC)
I don't think limiting the people who can contribue to it is going to work, but if we can create a routine list of people wishing to run the fest and alternate that, there is some sort of stability to who users are going to go to for advice and an overall planner. 12:30, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
The problem with that is that Wikifests only happen once every 3 months. We have no idea of the activity of users in 3, 6, 9, or 12 months after they sign a list saying they'd be willing to run a wikifest. If the users go inactive, then it's back to square 1. --LiquidTalk 19:38, April 2, 2010 (UTC)
Agreed (see the runescape post). It would be best to choose seasoned wikians who have been around for a bit to start. ‎20px‎AtlandyBeer.png 19:41, April 2, 2010 (UTC)
So what is there to do. We definetly need to get a bit more organized with the events, consistency in our ability to create the fest, yet we need to remain neutral on the idea of a committee. Any ideas on how we can do this? 23:21, April 3, 2010 (UTC)
Why remain neutral on ideas of a committee? This is not AEAE? It is to organize an event ‎20px‎AtlandyBeer.png 12:49, April 4, 2010 (UTC)
Because the Wiki doesn't want one. Forum:Wikifest Committee. 15:23, April 5, 2010 (UTC)
Majority of comments after my Neutral were also neutral about the idea. I wouldn't think that exact proposal Stelercus made is that good, but with some changes, it'd be a lot better, receiving more support. I only closed the thread because it was being discussed here, not for overwhelming opposition. Chicken7 >talk 00:38, April 6, 2010 (UTC)
I can understand that, but without overwhelming arguments for it, I still don't think many would like a committee simply based on the understanding of AEAE. We will need to create an method to organize an open contribution discussion while giving it some backbone to stand with for opposition. 04:33, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Notice of intent - I am going to close this tomorrow unless some discussion starts again. --LiquidTalk 17:56, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Closed - No consensus. --LiquidTalk 15:42, May 2, 2010 (UTC)