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This thread was archived on 2 June 2017 by Liquidhelium.

So yesterday, I found some official runescape trailers archive, that gave me an idea, what if we would add these to related articles?

So my idea is that we put official games trailers from official sources on their related page using the youtube template (because even if we could directly upload vid on wikia using x format, it would have to use a shitty wikia player and we dont want that). I think since they are directly RS related, it could be important to have all the information related to a subject.

I think we could also upload some cutscene (type5 and 6 come to my mind[1]) but specifically historical one (troll warzone, random three-headed green dragon etc..) and maybe other historical content that can be displayed fully in a pic (i.e old animated login screen), however since those would not come from official sources, we would need to find trustable youtube user, here a few that come to my mind:

  • Myself
  • Yann
  • RS Orshestred (also know as RS Orshestra or Lequietriot)

Also there would be requirements for the vid:

  • The video would not be repertoried (aka only findable on RSWIKI)
  • Disabled comments (to avoid eventual shitstorms with RS3 and OSRS)
  • Not monetizing it ofc
  • Link to the article of the subject in description
  • Maybe a thumbnail with RSWIKI logo.

So what do you guys think, should we put vids on specifics article (not in the video section), only game trailers or nothing at all?

  1. ^ There is 6 different cutscene type, however, only the last two are what we really call cutscene (the earlier are thing like camera movement) type 5 range to rotm to sleeping dogs (tww) and type 6 is what is used today

1wDmkih.png  Manpaint of the RPU (t)(c) 16:47, May 26, 2017 (UTC)


Comment - I believe we last discussed using video at Forum:Video, and at that time I don't think we were too interested in using videos in the article space. svco4bY.png3Gf5N2F.png 23:07, May 26, 2017 (UTC)

Oppose - We have already rejected the use of videos in articles in several previous threads (with some related discussion here).

  • As mentioned in those threads, the main issue is you cannot quickly and easily edit videos like you can with text. If there is a mistake, it's basically up to the uploader to correct it, since no one else has the original files. You will need recording software and editing software; if you have no experience producing videos, it's going to look unprofessional, especially in your case considering your not-quite-fluent English and lack of attention to detail.
  • There is no such thing as "trustable youtube user", simply because you/Yann/RS Orchestrated will be individuals running your own off-site accounts that we have no control over. There is no guarantee the videos or channels won't become private or removed because of copyright infringement, or that your accounts are secure and won't have videos altered by someone else. If you become inactive or are otherwise uncontactable, that's pretty much the end of the channel.
  • Are you going to record every single dialogue possibility for cutscenes? Where are you going to get these historical cutscenes in the first place? If you're finding them online, then downloading and reuploading to your own account, you're going to lose quality (as well as have any text/overlays/watermarks that people put on their videos). If you're planning on embedding others' videos, you run into the same issues from the above paragraph.
  • I don't think videos of cutscenes actually contribute that much; all you need is one or two images per "sequence", and all the text is already transcribed in dialogue pages. What extra information would the video show? We don't need to record entire cutscenes for the same reason we don't have animations of players rotating with items equipped to show off every possible angle. Our existing screenshots are sufficient.

--Iiii I I I 09:27, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

You only mentionned cutscene tho, what is your opinion about official trailers?

1wDmkih.png  Manpaint of the RPU (t)(c) 13:19, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

Keep the status quo - If we need to reference an official trailer or BTS or anything like that, then we link to it, as we've been doing. We should only be embedding videos on the news articles they appear in. As for yer list of "trust[ed] youtube user[s]", Orchestra hasnae been around that long, and I've nae idea who Yann is What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 23:46, May 28, 2017 (UTC)

Yann is Habblet, he's brilliant. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 17:08, May 29, 2017 (UTC)
Ah ya, I ken who he is, ta What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 17:26, May 29, 2017 (UTC)

Oppose - Ideally, it'd be nice, but per Heptophthalmos, it's just not worth the maintenance. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 17:08, May 29, 2017 (UTC)

Oppose - Per 7eyes --dDbvitC.pngScuzzy Betahib8CAd.png 15:11, May 31, 2017 (UTC)

Oppose - Per everyone else. pjJ4pBM.png Abyssal vine whip.png 16:01, May 31, 2017 (UTC)

Request for closure Everyone oppose as per usual.

1wDmkih.png  Manpaint of the RPU (t)(c) 16:31, May 31, 2017 (UTC)

You had a well thought-out proposal with the best intent. However, 7i made some good points as to why we probably should not do this. This has nothing to do with you personally. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 17:27, May 31, 2017 (UTC)
Again, going to leave it open for a week in case people have more comments. --LiquidTalk 17:38, May 31, 2017 (UTC)

Oppose - This isn't worth the investment and upkeep really, as others have said above. This is nothing against you Manpaint, your proposals have always been made with the best intentions (such as improving the wiki) - sometimes things are just not worth taking the time to do or don't need changing (if it ain't broke don't fix it attitude). If you ever have proposals to make, keep making them. Don't be put off by people opposing previous proposals. I think I speak for many wikians when I say that there is never anything personal against you jayden 18:42, June 1, 2017 (UTC)

Closed - The wiki will not implement videos. --LiquidTalk 22:46, June 2, 2017 (UTC)