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So the ToC doesn't align h3 with h2

Bordered image captions

I propose adding a border and drop shadow to captions, which I think looks neater when enclosed and makes images more clearly defined from the body text. I've also darkened the color of captions slightly.

  • Example 1 of standard thumbnails on an article
  • Example 2 of an instance where the image has transparency
Here's the css if you want to try it for yourself:
.article-thumb, .extimage {
     border: 1px solid #cfcfcf;
     background: #fafafa;
     box-shadow: 0.25em 0.25em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.05);
     padding: 0px !important;
.caption {
     color: #696969 !important;
     border-top: 1px solid #cfcfcf;
     padding: 5px !important;
.lightbox-caption {
     color: #696969 !important;

Parentheses styling in titles

This one is taken from [[starwars:Forum:CT Archive/Eras and Displaytitle|Wookieepedia]]: I would like to automatically shrink parenthetical descriptors in article titles, as well as lighten the font color to grey. This de-emphasizes the contents of the parentheses, which are almost always for the purpose of disambiguation; they are not part of the in-game name and therefore should not be given as much prominence.

  • [[w:c:iiiiiii:Pet Shop (Summer Beach Party)|Example 1]] of a regular article
  • [[w:c:iiiiiii:Driftwood (disambiguation)|Example 2]] of a disambig page

Wookieepedia applies the title change through [[starwars:Template:Eras|a template]] that is on all their mainspace pages; because we don't have anything like that, it probably has to be done through js. However, cases where parentheses are actually part of the name (like Maple shortbow (u)) will need an exception. Since the only times that I can think of this happening are with items, adding a class to Template:Infobox Item that stops the style from being applied if the name parameter matches the pagename should be enough.

Suggestions for both proposals are welcome.


Support 1 and 2 as nominator --Iiii I I I 06:50, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

Support 1, the last change to the skin made captions too easy to overlook. Neutral on 2. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 07:01, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

Support 1 and 2 cuz they look nice. --Shockstorm (talk) 07:14, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

Comment - I think the borders are a bit jarring, what about using something like rgba and reducing the opacity slightly? All it really needs is a hint of definition from the surrounding content.

As for the titles, I like the concept, but I don't want to have js doing it. The 'jumping around' in such a noticeable area isn't worth the gains as far as I'm concerned. I'm all for a template though, we could use it for certain subpages too, e.g. strategy guides (because I think slashes in the page title look weird). MDN have a good way of handling subpage titles, we could take inspiration from there, e.g. [1]. cqm 07:18, 19 Jul 2015 (UTC) (UTC)

Comment - Address cube (law), Bob Barter (herbs), Ivory Shredflesh (cursed). Restricting to only Infobox Item will not work in all cases. ʞooɔ 08:38, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

Support 1, neutral 2 - No idea why the borders were removed in the first place. As for the other thing, as Cook remarked, good luck standardising it via infobox. If we go through with this, I'd suggest only doing it for disambiguation pages (as opposed to always doing with exceptions for items etc.), and allowing it to be done on a case-by-case basis for other things. If that's possible, of course. Also, make the text a slightly darker grey. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 10:04, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

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Are you fucking high? MolMan 14:03, July 19, 2015 (UTC)
The only time I ever fuck is in a hot-air balloon or an airplane. I can confirm this. User talk:ThePsionic.png: RS3 Inventory image of User talk:ThePsionic ThePsionic Special:Contributions/ThePsionic.png: RS3 Inventory image of Special:Contributions/ThePsionic 09:41, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

Support-ish 1 - Borders were removed mostly because of an oversight on the part of Wikia. They stopped using the class thumbinner, which is what had the CSS border property, and replaced it with nothing. To restore .thumbinner properties to the way MediaWiki intended, you can add the following CSS wherever you want. It's what I've done in my personal common.css. --Saftzie (talk) 18:09, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

/* Wikia seems to have dumped .thumbinner completely */
.article-thumb, .extimage
  border: 1px solid rgb(204,204,204);
  padding: 3px;
  background-color: rgb(249,249,249);
  font-size: 94%;
  text-align: center;
  overflow: hidden;

Support both - If we can get the second suggestion to work as intended, then sure. It would be nice to have the caption below thumbnails to be readable again. Ryan PM 01:46, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Support both - per ryan Korasi's sword.png Archmage Elune  TalkHS Void knight deflector.png fetus is my son and I love him. 02:05, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Support both - The first suggestion is basically what I have in my personal CSS. The second is kinda obvious. Let's get both in the works! sMZBK5h.pngiisDlt8.png18:28, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Support Both - per Ryan's comment pjJ4pBM.png Abyssal vine whip.png 18:55, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Support 1 - Looks nice. There are too many exceptions with the second one, and it's not worth the time to work on it. 5-x Talk 15:10, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

Support 1, weak support 2 - Borders and shadows look nice. Weak support for 2 as I'm not bothered it isn't implemented, but if you/others want to spend the time making it apply to the exceptions, then sure Star Talk ayy lmao ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 15:32, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

Strong Seaport Both - Per Ryab --dDbvitC.pngScuzzy Betahib8CAd.png 19:17, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

Closed - Both proposed changes will be implemented. --LiquidTalk 01:00, July 27, 2015 (UTC)