Forum:Tense - Past, present or future?

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This thread was archived on 8 September 2009 by Azliq7.

I have found that in a lot of articles the tense is inconsistent or incorrect. For example, a lot of holiday event articles are written as though the event is still happening, even though in a lot of cases the event ended over a year ago. I believe we need to:

1. Create a policy or add a section to the Style Guide detailing when and which tense should be used.

2. Create a group of people with good grammar skills to clean up incorrect tense.

Please post below.


Support - As proposer. ~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  07:44, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Question - Could you provide some examples?   az talk   08:40, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

2009 Easter event, Trogs (in the part about the Hallowe'en attire), 2008 Christmas event, 2007 Hallowe'en event, and the many of the items related to the events (like the Scythe sharpener and Sooty pipe). There are many more examples you can find if you browse the holiday event pages and articles related to those events.

~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  09:06, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Surely tense should be relative to the situation...--Serenity1137 11:14, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but we need to update the aforementioned articles more quickly when the event is removed and add some sort of policy that governs when a certain tense should be used (eg: don't use past tense in quest guides). ~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  11:31, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
okidoke, support, but I wouldn't prioritize this as a project --Serenity1137 11:48, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Comment - um, what's stopping you from finding such articles and correcting them? Can't really make a bot for this...Now that's a throwing weapon!Doucher4000******r4000I'll eat you! 14:48, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Of course you can. It's very simple, I'm sure. If I'm wrong, it still shouldn't be too hard to correct them all... --— Enigma 18:03, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm trying to create some sort of guideline as to when different tenses should be used. I don't mind correcting the current mistakes but no doubt more articles with incorrect or inconsistent tense will be created. The reason I brought the to the YG is, as I stated earlier, to build some sort of instructions on in which circumstances tenses should be used. ~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  23:15, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Support - Then I agree. Lots of things like randoms and events need that. Now that's a throwing weapon!Doucher4000******r4000I'll eat you! 04:10, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Support - I am surprised that we don't have something like that in the style guide already.--Joe Click Here for Awesomeness 14:04, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Support - There are a few other articles as well: NPCs who die during quests - Duradel, for example. dictature 23:29, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment - So... more discussion pl0x? ~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  22:05, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Support - Per my love of grammar. What I was thinking (though it's common sense, really):

Past tense: Holiday events and other activities/items/NPCs/stuff that are no longer in the game.
Future tense: Things that are not yet in the game but are confirmed to be in the future.
Present tense: Basically, anything that is currently "do-able" in the game, like quests, skills, minigames, NPCs, etc.

 Tien  23:09, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

I like those guidelines a lot. That's how things are meant to be (I think) but it probably needs to be better enforced. Add it to the style guide or create a new policy? ~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  08:41, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Support- I have found also that the tenses are inconsistent. AttackJdogy15 TalkDragonfire shield 00:25, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Support - Per all. I like Tienjt0's ideas. The inconsistencies need to be cleaned up and made a priority once a update or announcement causes the need for a change of tense. - TehKittyCatTalk Wikian-Book 16:12, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment - I suppose I had better write a draft. ~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  08:39, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Support- If the events already happened there is no reason it should be in present tense. --Quest point cape equipped.png Cheese012Firemaking 01:48, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Support - Alot of articles are like this. I've had to re-tense some myself and I know how irritating this can be. Last I knew, the easter event article was still in present tense and so was Lily of the Valley was until about a week after they'd been discontinued. Some former random event articles need to be re-done too like the evil chicken. It still talks about its combat stats as if it still appears outside of RFD. Black cavalier.png Zenihdrol Tribal top (blue).png 00:39, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Support - Per all. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 08:07, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Closed - Added the "Tense" section (RS:STYLE#TENSE) in our style guide.   az talk   12:49, September 8, 2009 (UTC)