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This thread was archived on 30 November 2010 by Liquidhelium.

Ok, ill make it quick as it a small thing, and Evil1888, said i must make a thread do do this, so here the thing, just replaceing the skillcapes article boxes

from:

{{Infobox Item
|name = Agility cape
|image = [[File:Agility hood.png]] [[File:Agility cape.png]] [[File:Agility cape (t).png]]
|AKA = Agil cape
|release = [[18 October]] [[2006]]
|update = Capes of Achievement... and Goats!
|members = Yes
|quest = No
|tradeable = No
|equipable = Yes
|stackable = No
|high = 59,400
|low = 39,600
|destroy = Drop
|store = 99,000
|seller = Capn' Izzy No-Beard
|examine = The cape worn by the most agile of heroes.
|weight = 0.4
}}

to:

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{{Infobox Skillcape
|name = Agility cape
|image = [[File:Agility hood.png]] [[File:Agility cape.png]] [[File:Agility cape (t).png]]
|AKA = Agil cape
|release = [[18 October]] [[2006]]
|update = Capes of Achievement... and Goats!
|members = Yes
|tradeable = No
|equipable = Yes
|stackable = No
|high = 59,400
|low = 39,600
|destroy = Drop
|store = 99,000
|frequency = {{99s|Agility}}
|seller = Capn' Izzy No-Beard
|examine = The cape worn by the most agile of heroes.
|weight = 0.4
}}


Different

  • Quest Box Gone
  • G.e box replaced with Frequency

Frequency is the number of 99's players have in this skill, using

{{99s|Agility}}

i cant do it without breaking RS:PDDA, so that about it, support and stuff below

Project Myface Parsonsda Talk | Sign Here | Project Myface Project Myface 13:04, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Discussion

Support - I see no problems since it is kinda obviously not involved with any quest or on the GE. I just wonder how up to date the Frequency box will be, and unless we can/have some method to keep it up to date I'd like to omit that part. svco4bY.png3Gf5N2F.png 14:01, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

the Frequency is controlled by a template, that controlled mostly by a bot, it updates itself :) --Project Myface Parsonsda Talk | Sign Here | Project Myface Project Myface 14:12, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
It is not. Looking at Template:99s's history, no bot has ever updated it. Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 21:48, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose First off, this is an incorrect assumption. This is the CAPE article, not the 99 article. You do not know how many people actually bought the cape, nor is it relevant. Who cares really? I could see the number of people with 99 going on the skill article, but it can not go here. Also, even if we knew how many bought the cape, our information would be constantly out of date.--Degenret01 14:08, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

sometimes things you may think are useless are useful to others, for e.g say a player want to know what skillcape is most common, using this they might think it the easiest to get, see what im saying, think about the uses to others. Project Myface Parsonsda Talk | Sign Here | Project Myface Project Myface 14:17, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
We already have a page with all the frequencies in a table. . . wouldn't that be easier for the purposes of comparison? - [Pharos] 14:19, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
but im talking about the skillcape articles, this way when looking at the skillcape you get the information, you don't always wanna go to that one page all the time do you? --Project Myface Parsonsda Talk | Sign Here | Project Myface Project Myface 14:27, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
@Parsons Your ignoring that you cannot possibly know how many people bought the cape.--Degenret01 14:28, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
Isn't that a bit like saying we should have a list of all YG threads inside each thread, just so we don't have to go back to Forum:Yew Grove? + Degen's argument - [Pharos] iPhone Edit 14:36, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Neutral - I don't know, do we really need to provide the frequency? --中亚人/中亞人 (Chinasian/Jeffwang16) 跟我谈话 14:50, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - Per Degen, we have no idea who actually bought a cape, out of the thousands that have the level to do so. Real Mad 15:33, November 20, 2010 (UTC)


Note- it not about who brought the capes!! it about how many players got that many 99's! some people find there 99's by reviewing what capes the most common, i know loads of player that do this! that what im saying! --Project Myface Parsonsda Talk | Sign Here | Project Myface Project Myface 16:37, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

That information is in the relevant skill article. The cape article is about the item not the 99. Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 16:38, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - I don't see how what your proposing could improve anything. Matt (t) 21:10, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Partial support - Remove the quest box, seeing as no NPC seller requires a quest to get the cape. But omit the freqency box, as, like so many are saying, it is impossible to tell how many capes there are, seeing as the cape:99 ratio isn't 1:1. What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 21:17, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Support - The quest and GE box are useless for these and the other things they have been replaced with are useful. Maybe the only thing is change "frequency" to "frequency of 99", but i think that is useful for this page, it is relevant and useful. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 00:26, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Partial support - Removing irrelevant "information", as in the quest box, etc. is all good. But adding an inaccurate and probably out-of-date "fact" would be detrimental. Unless you can prove that the data is 97% accurate and up-to-date, I will not support it. 222 talk 00:36, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - Does not show that even if there are that many with a skill mastery does not mean that many will have the cape, let alone be able to get one (F2P). Just leave it as it is. Ryan PM 00:39, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose GE box -> frequency, Support removal of quest parameter - The number of capes =/= to the number of people with 99. Farming cape (t).png Lil cloud 9 Talk 04:07, November 21, 2010 (UTC)


As i said before for about the frequency, say a player wanted to find a way to get a easy skillcape, they can look at the article and see how many is owned, this helps a player find out what skillcape might be easiest for them to get, it very useful in that way, and also thoe you asking about it being updated, it using a temmplate:

Agility = {{99s|Agility}} = 162,897

it controled by a template, so when it be like the Skill Mastery page, ok :) --Project Myface Parsonsda Talk | Sign Here | Project Myface Project Myface 11:40, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

I looked at the skill mastery page when I was trying to decide whether to go for a 99. It's much easier than making a whole new template. Real Mad 12:00, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
We not using a whole new template, this template already there, it mainly a replacement for the g.e box, it hard to say, what i mean is if you on the cooking skillcape, while your there you see how many players in the game got that 99,

im also making this because as you know the wiki updating it style, from old, to new boxes, this boxes give you more data on skillcape, it only basicly gonna be used 25 times, (26 if jagex make more skills), it hard to explain really, it just providing user who are thinking of getting a skillcape with this type of information, get what i'm saying? --Project Myface Parsonsda Talk | Sign Here | Project Myface Project Myface 16:30, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Saying how many people have, say, 99 Agility, in a field marked "Frequency" on the article FOR THE AGILITY CAPE is misleading, and suggests that's how many people have the cape. By all means remove the GE price, Tradeable and Members only fields, but don't put on the frequency of the 99. Real Mad 19:38, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - The change is pointless and irrelevant. For one thing, not every person with 99 in a skill has a skillcape. There are many free players with level 99 in a skill, and hence cannot obtain the skillcape. Furthermore, several players have more than one copy of a skillcape. Thus, it is impossible to accurately ascertain the number of capes in the game. Going to the skill page is preferable. --LiquidTalk 16:33, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - Place a message with A total of X players have reached level 99 in this skill at trivia, which is 100% facts and says the same without assuming every 99 has a skillcape. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 20:48, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - Even if you did want to find out the "frequency" of a certain skillcape, there would be no numbers to compare it to... so you'd have to visit the level 99 skills article anyway.  Tien  21:13, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Neutral - Looks good but not necessary. Full slayer helmet.png Axela40 Slayer-icon.png 22:43, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - Wouldn't the "stackable", "equipable" and "tradeable" part be unnessacary aswell? --中亚人/中亞人 (Chinasian/Jeffwang16) 跟我谈话 02:25, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Example:
[view][talk]

Closed - There is insufficient consensus to implement this. --LiquidTalk 02:17, November 30, 2010 (UTC)