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This thread was archived on 8 April 2010 by Calebchiam.

The style guide outlines common mistakes in the use of the English langauge, but it does not address the actual style in which articles should be written. Arguably, this is an encyclopaedic work, with the underlying academic implications that naturally follow. That is why slang is not used, why gramatically correct English is valued, and strictly fromal language is used.
As such it seems reasonable that this is formalized in the style guide. This was done, but the expansive section was removed due to "lack of consensus". It may have been too extensive in some opinions. Please comment both on what you wish to be commented on concerning "style" as a way of writing, rather than a list of common mistakes, and how extensive you wish such a section should be, if neccessary.

Please also consider before commenting, so we can assert what "Academic style" means before commenting on whether we believe it is relevant to this wikia. I suggest the partial removal of 3. Use 'One' as a subject as this seems too pompous in this setting.

Most of academic style is already formalized in the style guide in terms of common mistakes and how to avoid them. Why not generalize what one should do, rather than what should be avoided? Tortilliachp 16:22, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Style guides take on many forms. One that I've used extensively is the Associated Press Style Guide, which pretty much is to help in standardizing spelling for use in articles written by Associated Press writers. There are some other minor parts that also go into actual style of how the articles are written, but the whole thing is quite small and simple. Other style guides I've used have been mostly one page sheets of do's and don'ts for whatever they are suggesting.
For me, the best style guides tend to be written based on experience and problems that arise from time to time with the content being written. The current Runescape:Style Guide is for me an excellent example of this sort of style guide that has evolved and developed over time. Unfortunately, instead of being a mere guideline it has become for some people on this wiki a sort of policy on how to write articles, which makes it all that harder to update a style guide like this.
I would discourage the massive addition to this guide unless it is addressing explicit problems that you see consistently found in articles, such as the over-use of the word "you" (to note a policy discussion about this very issue).
We don't need to create rules simply to have rules. Academic style guides often are written by English professors that are in the publish or perish game of academics that tend to be a bit more verbose than needed in most normal contexts. I'm not saying that they are awful, but they do dive into minutiae that are seldom needed for most applications. I'm all for improving standards and raising the bar on the quality of what is seen on this wiki. At the same time, an over reliance on strict academic standards is something that is in some ways killing off Wikipedia, where it has been documented that the user community has peaked and is no longer growing. I would like to encourage a friendly atmosphere on this wiki that encourages new participants to join in with editing content and creating features that can help the player community as a whole. Even more, I'd like to invoke the K.I.S.S. rule on policies if possible: Keep it super simple If a guideline is to be used and actually adopted, it must be easy to digest and to become a part of the actual style of most contributors to this wiki. --Robert Horning 13:07, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

something simple such as " Wikia is an academic project. As such, common academic style should be used, as this facilitates effective transfer of information. This may sound difficult, it is not. Minimalism is the style of academia, where few words means the effective transfer of information. Further, the shortest clear way of saying something should be used. Language is therefore dense, many sentences are short and every single word is important. " gives a quick overview of exactly what you suggest where do's and don'ts don't figure. I am talking of a formalization of the academic nature of this wikia, as it is currently present, not a change.

I agree that the current style guide is not a style guide, but a gramar / common mistakes guide. Why is it not labelled as such? Tortilliachp 14:27, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Closed - No consensus. C.ChiamTalk 09:45, April 8, 2010 (UTC)