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This thread was archived on 24 May 2021 by Liquidhelium.

I feel like the maintenance of Userboxes have been neglected and their appearances lack consistency, so I thought maybe there should be a standard to it.

Here are some key constraints that come to mind:

  • Dynamic font size - pretty straightforward, just a simple formula that considers the text length and calculates the ideal font size
  • Legible colors - right now, some userboxes such as this one have poor color choices (black text on brown background)
  • Nothing weird - something like this just seems way too out there (or maybe it's just me)
  • Border width - sure, while you could use box-sizing: border-box to keep a consistent element size, something's just off about inconsistent border widths.
    • Some border colors are barely legible depending on the background, should there be an inner border and an outer border?
    • Borders are for boomers, embrace the edgy material look??
Other random thoughts
  • How should icon sizes be handled?
  • How much padding should there be?
  • What should be the new width and height to accommodate everything?
  • Do we keep it rectangular or make it square to fit a larger icon?
    • Do we offer both layouts and let the user decide?

Thanks for reading,

/bren/tc 22:48, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Discussion

Closed - Hello! First I want to say thank you for wanting to further contribute to the wiki. I would argue something like this would fall under Be bold!. What I would suggest, as to not possibly rid someone of their userbox, is just make the visual improvements that you have concerns with. Any userboxes that are not linked to any userpages can be tagged with a speedy delete ({{D}}). Userboxes are meant to be a personalised way for folks to communite things about themselves on their userpage; this probably contributes to the increased inconsistencies... the implementation for new ones is simple: someone wants something specific, so they make it. :P --Legaia2Pla · ʟ · 23:14, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Re-open - This thread was inappropriately closed; I have re-opened it for discussion. Apologies for any confusion! :) --Legaia2Pla · ʟ · 23:32, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Comment - I'm not really convinced that userboxes need to be standardised. Their purpose is for fun and they are only used in the user space. Subjectively, yes some seem to have extremely questionable design choices or serve such a specific purpose that very few people would ever want to use them. But presumably at some point in time someone created that hideous and obscure userbox because they liked how it looked and intended to use it.

I feel like the solution here is just to improve the appearance of the particular ones that you think don't look great. If you have ideas in mind about what standards would look better then I'd say it's a case of be bold and make those changes. I don't think there's ever been a protocol about how changes to userboxes should be implemented; presumably it is something where consensus could be required due to multiple editors using particular userboxes and having differing opinions about how they should look. I think that's very unlikely at this point (and the thread gives notice of your plans anyway) so I'd say if a disagreement occurs with particular userboxes that could be dealt with on a case by case basis.

I don't think that standardisation should be a hard requirement in userboxes. If someone is making a new userbox or if they are really invested in how a current one looks, I think they should have the freedom to make whatever hideous, oddly specific creation they like. Magic logs detail.pngIsobelJTalk page 11:16, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Completely valid points made. This is why I wanted to run it through YG. It looks like it might be a BB sorta thing. /bren/tc 17:27, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Oppose - I don't think userboxes are something that need to be standardised. They are only used in the User namespace and if a user does not like one userbox, they can either use another or create a new one that suits their needs. Lava hawk.png BlackHawk (Talk)    16:43, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Oppose - Would much prefer a discussion to delete all userbox templates. Maybe standardised user infoboxes, though? Cronos Dage (talk) 22:12, 18 May 2021 (UTC)


This request for closure was denied A user has requested closure for Standardising Userboxes. Request denied. The reason given was: The thread hasn't been open for that long, while there isn't support so far for the standardisation proposal I think there's merit in leaving this open so people can provide feedback on userbox designs if they wish to do that

Closed - There is no consensus to standardize userboxes. --LiquidTalk 10:28, 24 May 2021 (UTC)