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This thread was archived on 10 September 2008 by Azaz129.

I think the Training section for each skill be transfered to a sub-page (i.e. Fishing/Training and Hunter/Training). This is to unclutter the article from facts about the skill from the guides to training that skill. And since training guides may be long, moving the training section will reduce the article size, making it clear and concise.   az talk   12:21, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I think this is a great idea, as it would greatly decrease load times of some very large articles. Good idea! Karlis (talk) (contribs) 12:35, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
I like the idea of the training section being on a separate article. It doesn't have to be a subsection, what about Free-to-play Ranged training? We could have 39 different skill guides like those. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 13:03, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
I would prefer if it is still be linked to the main skill article. (Subpages have links to the main page.) I guess we could move existing articles to the skill article as subpages. But, that's just my opinion.   az talk   14:00, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
It is a good idea to have some subpages to ease the burden of the main article. But I am thinking that moving the training parts do not sound that effective if we are based on the said aim.
And if we are moving out some large content, would there be a lot of subpages produced, like what Teng said?
(At least 1 page for each skill, that is ..... 24! )
Not only a large amount of subpages are to be produced, how about the original place for the moved content? Shall we briefly write something in point form to replace it or.... some other thing?
Taking Fishing as a example, the largest content is the Fishing#Fishing spots. Meanwhile, the training part takes only a quarter of the total content. In my opinion, we could list the spots in point form and leave the description far behind those into subpages. This keeps the unity of the article and at the same time saving some space. XDRAGONAITE +Saradomin's Book of Wisdom.png 02:05, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

I admit several skill pages is getting ridiculously long, and an old browser may take ages to load it. My main concern is load time, and information available in the skill page itself. Some detailed info should not be in the skill page, but rather be in the corresponding article dedicated to the detailed info. My first suggestion does not seem right at the moment, as discussed above. But, somehow, the articles need to be shrunk someway. So, here goes:

  • Information related directly to the skill but do not have an article should be moved to subpages (or appropriately-named articles).
  • Information with existing articles on their own should be moved there, with a summary provided in the skill page, and the {{main|Article name}} used to link to the article.

  az talk   08:39, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Sounds like it makes a lot of sense, and there is no one saying it's a bad idea.. As long as each subpage gets a 1 or 2 sentence brief next to its link this should prove to really neaten up some articles. --Degenret01 09:49, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

I feel like if we had the training guides in their own separate pages, they should be more detailed than they are now. For most of the skills they're not very in-depth; if they're getting their own pages then those bits should be expanded. troacctid 01:59, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

my feeling is that when they migrate to their own subpages more editors will be inclined to work on them (as they won't be buried in an article that is as long as some of them grew to be. I know that for me when an article gets to be way more than i'm looking for i'll oft skip over pieces that i might otherwise be inclined to add to. So my instinct is the Training articles will almost automatically grow with new ideas from contributors. ~kytti khat 03:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
There are several aspects of skill pages that may cause them to explode in size. Skill training is one such element. Training losses/profits are another. Then there are the huge number of items that some skills are involved in (e.g. summoning, slayer, farming, herblore, cooking, magic spells, smithing). It may make sense to dedicate a separate page to off-load the main skill page. Doing this in a consistent manner will be difficult. Often, content moves result in articles with mostly links and no actual information. Miw 13:53, 19 August 2008 (UTC)