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This thread was archived on 7 December 2008 by Kytti khat.

i was thinking, it would be easier to find items if they are more categorised, for example, items like swords and schimmys can be put into the blades subcategory, while spears, staffs and hastas can be put into the polearms subcategory, the same can be done for armour and shields.. you name it, but it will certainly be easier. to find them through that way Explorer's ring 3.pngBtzkillerv has entered the building! Cape (blue).png 17:09, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


Hmmm, I think we can add sub-categories for "Melee weapons", but not for "Armour". Currently we have these categories for armour:

And for armour weapons:

The list of possible sub-categories for Melee weapons are as follows:

  • L1: Category:Unique weapons - for all unique weapons (such as TzHaar weapons, quest-obtained weapons, etc.)
  • L1: Category:Two-handed weapons - all 2h weapons
  • L1: Category:One-handed weapons - all 1h weapons
  • L2: Category:Smash weapons - Maces, Warhammers, Mauls
  • L2: Category:Slash weapons - Blades, Battleaxes
  • L3: Category:Polearms - Halberds, Spears, Hastas
  • L3: Category:Blades - Daggers, Swords, Longswords, 2h swords, Scimitars
  • L3: Category:Battleaxes - Battleaxes, Axes, Pickaxes
  • L3: Category:Mauls - Granite maul, Barrelchest anchor, Gadderhammer, etc.

That should cover most (if not all) of the melee weapons.   az talk   07:30, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

i don think maces and warhammers belong to the polearms, i think they belong to the warhammer subcategory. also, daggers should be put into the larger category blades along with the category of swords. I would prefer to put the maul category as a smaller one inside the category of smash weapons. along with the warhammers and maces. then the blades can be put into the larger category of slasher weapons. along with the battleaxes subcategory. Explorer's ring 3.pngBtzkillerv has entered the building! Cape (blue).png 10:06, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
NOTE: Updated the list above based on the comments by Btzkillerv.   az talk   07:28, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be better to sub-categorise armour by combat style, i.e. melee, ranged or magic? Then divide each into body, legs, headwear, shield, etc. Leevclarke talk Max_logo_mini.png bulldog_puppy.png 13:22, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Yes. Hmm... but we have some categories for armour already. We should "revise" them: make some changes to the hierarchy of the armour subcategories. The list above is partial (based on what I found in 5 minutes). A full list of available armour categories should be compiled, if possible, before making the appropriate changes.   az talk   07:28, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Just doing a revision of some wording:
  • L1: Category:Unique weapons - for all unique weapons (such as TzHaar weapons, quest-obtained weapons, etc.):::
  • L1: Category:Two-handed weapons - all 2h weapons
  • L1: Category:One-handed weapons - all 1h weapons
  • L2: Category:Bludgeoning weapons - Maces, Warhammers, Mauls
  • L2: Category:Slash weapons - Blades, Battleaxes
  • L3: Category:Polearms - Halberds, Spears, Hastas
  • L3: Category:Edged weapons - Daggers, Swords, Longswords, 2h swords, Scimitars
  • L3: Category:Hacking weapons - Battleaxes, Axes, Pickaxes
  • L3: Category:Mauls and Hammers - Granite maul, Barrelchest anchor, Gadderhammer, etc.

Changed 'em for clarity. Would you call a warhammer a "smash" or a "bludgeon" if you were asked how to describe it with one noun? My guess is that you wouldn't say that it can be described as a "smash" (though they certainly are smashing XD). 7kyt1iT.gif --WINE OF GOOD HEALTH (Actually Stinko)

yeah but if u think about it axes and battleaxes and used for cutting as well, edged would have to inbuled the axe group if you think about it, and pickaxe does not have any cutting capable surfaces. blades and edged weapons is a problem because they are both formal names for cutting capable objects, and also, what about knives and jaxelins and they are a kind of cross between the group of plolearms and blades, with ranged throwing weapons. Explorer's ring 3.pngBtzkillerv has entered the building! Cape (blue).png 14:44, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
also, "bludgeon" is too much of a complex word

Explorer's ring 3.pngBtzkillerv has entered the building! Cape (blue).png 12:40, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Actually, it's the PERFECT choice for a word that means a blunt object. 7kyt1iT.gif --WINE OF GOOD HEALTH (Actually Stinko)
okay, so lets combine the ideas, and make the subcats

Explorer's ring 3.pngBtzkillerv has entered the building! Cape (blue).png 14:20, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

You guys have totally ignored stabbing weapons in all of this business. (Short)swords are stabbing weapons. Daggers, spears, hastae, and (maybe) claws are also stabbing weapons. So that list could use some changes. The Alphy 01:53, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

no matter what you say, daggers are still blades that can cut, so it will go the blades, we adjust by weapon type according to the royal armouries guide to the melee weapons, not according you your liking

Explorer's ring 3.pngBtzkillerv has entered the building! Cape (blue).png 11:07, 10 November 2008 (UTC)