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This thread was archived on 22 October 2009 by Psycho Robot.

Since there is a new update about the hitpoints bar, does this mean we will have to update ALL images? Just came to thought that we should. Maybe we shouldn't. --Runecrafting.gif Mo 55 55 Talk|Sign 16:19, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Comment - I think it would be a good idea to update as many images as possible. Perhaps we could turn this into a project of sorts? We could tag images with a template, similar to the template for standard detail images below:

Any comments?  Tien  17:09, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

The bar along with the hit splats are big changes.. File:Bar.pngBlocked hitsplat old4.pngFile:Hit.png all of it is big changes

Question - Which images? A lot of them have transparency without any sign of the hitpoints bar. Or are you referring to only the images without a hp bar? Zaros tally.PNGBladeQuick chat button.png# 18:07, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Answer? - I think he's talking about images like the ones on the Special attacks page. FredeTalk 18:20, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - Do not start to update the images now already, since Jagex might update it due to feedback of players. And I don't think it's a must to replace them, when the subject of the image is not the hitpoints bar itself. Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 18:23, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I just saw the hitpoints bar and damage splats for the first time today and... ugh. I thought they'd look better than that. Perhaps waiting a bit would be a good idea.  Tien  20:51, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Comment - It's the combat ones (ones where someone is fighting the npc or something). I agree with ElfAnurin. --Runecrafting.gif Mo 55 55 Talk|Sign 20:02, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - I agree with ElfAnurin. I think that there's a good chance it'll be changed back. Personally I think the hitpoints bar and hitsplats look like they came from a little kid's game. x.x  Panjy16  20:17, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

oppose The hp bar and splats are very minor in comparison to when we went HD, not something we should make a project of.--Degenret01 06:24, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Support This isn't something to be made a project out of as it is in no way urgent, but I think enough people want to update the hp bars that if you just wait a couple of weeks most of them will be done. --Serenity1137 08:21, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - Per degen. Those are not very major. Only thing changed is just the hp and splats unlike the whole Gielinor when HD was released.Santa hat.png Powers38 おはようヾ(´・ω・`) 08:25, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Meh - In my opinion it doesn't matter. They'll end up being changed in the future at some point anyway, no need to bother just for the new hp bar/damage splats. Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 10:34, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - This would be a major task, as it would also contain images such as TzTok-Jad, the Giant Mole, or other bosses. Besides, some monsters (eg the Giant Mole) will be graphical reworked soon, and then we would have to replace them agáin! Miasmic Blitz icon.png Hapi007 Talk! Sign! . 18:14, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Comment - I agree, maybe they will update it.--Runecrafting.gif Mo 55 55 Talk|Sign 09:19, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Support Trying - What harm will at least trying do?Joe Click Here for Awesomeness18:08, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

A waste of time. --— Enigma 22:26, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - I agree on this statement:

Personally I think the hitpoints bar and hitsplats look like they came from a little kid's game.


And I'm sure many other players agree with something similar. By the feedback of the players, which most I believe dislike the new Hp bars and hitsplats, I think Jagex will change them to something different or possibly back to the original setting. Don't think we should get too far into it --— Enigma 22:26, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Support - we could just use this template.

ShinyUnown T | C | E 14:00, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Support again, but now for that template above.--Joe Click Here for Awesomeness 14:02, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Oppose template - Like I said before, I don't think it's a must to replace them, when the subject of the image is not the hitpoints bar itself. Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 17:16, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

The template is just there so that someone can take a replacement, not to make it outdated. ShinyUnown T | C | E 22:21, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
If you look at the image you can already see if it is? Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 00:21, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Don't forget about Category:Obselete images... ShinyUnown T | C | E 00:42, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
I don't like to put that whole category full with hp bars. Then we can't find the images of which a recent change is more important. And if you're adding a template to it you're just asking for some1 else to replace it. We should just leave it like it is. Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 09:44, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Slight Oppose - Per ElfAnurin. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 13:43, 6 July 2009 (UTC) (Changed to Strong Oppose, see below)

Request for closure - All combat images shall nót be changed. Miasmic Blitz icon.png Hapi007 Talk! Sign! . 19:36, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - I don't think they're changing the HP bar back ... But hey, now we have a new project =_= FredeTalk 19:24, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Maybe we could use a template like this:

FredeTalk 19:29, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

This template would work, if someone put it on a page (like Template:Oldhp) I'd be happy to scout obsolete images and change the template. ShinyUnown T | C | E 20:23, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - I have nothing against updateing images with the hp bar, but I oppose the use of a template. I feel that a big glaring template about something as trivial as the hp bar would be considerably more disrupting to an article than an obsolete hp bar. I would also refrain from lableing them obsolete images. As pointed out above, that category should be reserved for images that are in much greater need of replacing. RandoxTalk 01:05, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment - I believe the intention is to put this template into relevant image pages, not into the articles themselves. --Quarenon  Talk 01:26, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Support - As per Quarenon's comment. RandoxTalk 01:30, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm planning to make the template official and to create a new category for old combat images. Any objections? ShinyUnown T | C | E 23:42, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Note: You may now use {{oldhp}} to mark images with the old hitpoints bar and hitsplats. ShinyUnown T | C | E 00:58, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Your previous message was left an hour ago, which is hardly enough time for users to comment on this change. There is no consensus to use this new template yet, so please stop adding them to image pages. C.ChiamTalk 11:09, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
To other sysops: Please don't delete [[Template:Oldhp]] and Category:Old combat images until consensus is reached. ShinyUnown T | C | E 11:18, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Support new template - Decent looking and useful, might as well use it. Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 19:25, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Support - I liked this idea at the beginning, and I think that this update is actually big enough to have a project of sorts on. Unlike HD, which is completely optional, these are permanent. You don't have the option to have the old HP bar or damage splats. Everyone has the new ones. I don't see why SD images need to be updated to HD if you're not going to update the old HP bars/splats to the new ones.  Tien  21:25, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment - I think this is generally a good idea. If someone sees an old image, and they want to update it, they should do so. I do think that this is a relatively minor change and I wouldn't suggest someone putting a lot of time into it. As of now, we still have 1,409 images in [[:Category:Standard detail images]]. That's a lot of images that are still in SD. It would be nice to be updating those too. Just my two cents. Air rune.png Tollerach hates SoF Fire rune.png 02:33, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Neutral To me, this seems a bit unnecessary but heck, go at it if you like. --Allonym 14:25, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Support - Sounds good to me. --Quarenon  Talk 14:02, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Neutral Same as Allonym. Skull.pngDiaruga001Ancient talisman.png

Neutral - I see nothing wrong with it, but no incentive to NEED to do it since the changes are small. Feel free to do it though. - TehKittyCatTalk Wikian-Book 06:36, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Neutral - They are pretty small and are not the main focus of the image. Jagex might chnage it in the near future, but go ahead for people who really want to.--S•h•o•b•y•4 (TalkEditsContribsRuneScape Stories Wiki) 03:30, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - They're tiny little things. So what if 20 pixels of an image is out-of-date? — Enigma 05:45, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Comment Oh come on, you know it's THAT important. --Allonym 19:55, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Especially if you compare the bars. ShinyUnown T | C | E 20:02, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
So you're saying that old images of the Abyssal whip, where the whip is not the main focus of the picture, don't need to be updated to the new look either?  Tien  23:10, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Strong Oppose - It isn't that important, is it? That would seem like people who just want a higher editcount. It is totally ridiculous to change ALL images that contain something that is not the main focus, just because is has had a small graphics update! I don't think anyone is going to complain when they see an outdatedd HP bar on some screenshot for a quest or something. It's not important enough. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 20:56, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

No offense, but to assume that people who support this proposal simply want a higher editcount is really unreasonable.  Tien  21:23, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
That's not what I meant. It just sounds a bit like that to me. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 05:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Support - Per Joe bad_fetustalk 21:36, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Oppose- No reason to update them because the change is so small --Quest point cape equipped.png Cheese012Firemaking 12:05, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Oppose- When you think of the quantity of images which the hp bar is show this could become a mojor yet unecessary project.Green32b 11:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - The change is too slight to mandate a requirement. If this does get passed however, I also oppose new template, just use the existing obsolete template. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 01:04, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Support - There aren't many images like this anyway; it won't be hard to do, so why not update it? White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 01:17, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Request for closure - It has won and has been on for 4 months now without a final choice. Runecrafting.gif Mo 55 55 Talk|Sign 14:24, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose closure - There's no winner or loser in consensus, and if you're counting votes then its actually 11 opposes versus 10 supports.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Psycho Robot (talk).
I agree, it shouldn't be closed. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 16:14, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Support - RS:BB... I have nothing more to say other than to knock yourself out if you want to do it. --Robert Horning 14:34, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - Wow. It's good to be back. Anyway, the HP bar is not the subject of an image, and as stated earlier, images with TzTok-Jad would have to be retaken. Amethyst II Talk 12:16, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Comment - So will the template be used, or will it not? --Nup(T) 09:36, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Closed - The new template did not pass consensus and old images can be replaced as editors see fit, but will not be mandated. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 16:36, October 22, 2009 (UTC)