Forum:Runecrafting Gloves w/ Explorer's Ring
I've been updating Free-to-play Runecrafting training and trying to come up with some efficient F2P runecrafting training methods. Rather than simply trying to give a subjective viewpoint about what training method is the best, I'm trying to give specific numbers in terms of experience points earned per hour for each of several different training methods.... by actually logging into the game and trying the methods out (GASP... actually trying it out?!?)
Where I am stumped at right now is in regards to experience points earned for runecrafting gloves, and how their experience boost when coupled with the somewhat minor experience point boost from the Explorer's ring from the Lumbridge and Draynor Diary. I'd like this to be as accurate as possible, and in the case of Runecrafting gloves show experience points earned with and without the gloves... assuming that the runecrafter has the Explorer's Ring. I'm going to average out the randomizing effect of the Explorer's ring by simply claiming elemental runes get a flat 10% xp bonus, but any other tips about how much experience you can earn via F2P (or P2P) runecrafting methods would be appreciated here.
I'm working on a calculator that automatically calculates the xp/hr you earn strictly based on the "typical" time to complete a circuit while Runecrafting (including time waiting with a musician to restore run energy), the number of ess that you are using on the run (for things like casting teleport or bringing other items on the trips), and the kind of rune being crafted. Ultimately, I'd like this calculator to also include money earning potential as well listed for each method in terms of coins per hour. I think this could have some practical value... perhaps having similar calculators for other kinds of items as well beyond runes.
Anyway, if there are any "expert" runecrafters around, any help in determining these calculations would be appreciated. I'm not asking help so much with the calculators as simply trying to find an answer to this question about the combined effects of Runecrafting gloves with other items for training Runecrafting. --Robert Horning 19:15, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
- Comment - This would be more fit in the forums rather than the Yew Grove. Doucher4000******r4000 20:23, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
- Why? Why does the Yew Grove have to be exclusively about policy decisions? --Robert Horning 22:06, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
The Yew Grove is a page where community members can 'discuss larger changes to the wiki, such as policy proposal or suggestions to substantially redesign high-traffic content pages.
- The forums are more suitable for this type of discussion, or perhaps the article's talk page. — Enigma 22:09, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
Comment - Who cares what the yew grove is designed for in all honesty, theres no harm in bringing something like this to the community. Its not like the yew grove has a schedule or anything. TEbuddy 23:16, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
Comment - I find attitudes like some displayed above to be very un-nooby friendly. More to the point, Smacking down a conversation before it even starts is assuming bad faith and in many ways showing disrespect. I see this happen on the official RS forums, and it makes me sick when I find it happening. Yes, f-mods do move threads that are mis-placed and occasionally block stuff, but we can be a little more friendly here.
It does concern me that there are forbidden topics for the Yew Grove. Topics of this nature did come up from time to time before the Yew Grove became in the current format. I have been frustrated to no end having been told I can't start a topic because it isn't appropriate here. We supposedly can't discuss wiki business on the forums, so where is the appropriate place for topics of this nature? Yes, I am talking about something on the wiki, and needing some help that may not be responded to on the ordinary talk pages.
This is an issue that has been something I've disliked from day one when I've come onto this wiki. Yes, perhaps I'm pushing boundaries here, but I find that the current situation with the forums and perhaps even the Yew Grove is getting unwieldy when there are situations like the one I'm raising here, where I really do need some genuine help in writing content for this wiki. If not on the Yew Grove, then where? No, this is inappropriate for the forums, because it is about content on the wiki... or so I've been told. I also think that rule is silly, as the current "forums" started exactly in the fashion the Yew Grove did... on the wiki and then moved off to their own independent community. IMHO this is not healthy for seeking collaboration to write content for a wiki. --Robert Horning 00:38, September 15, 2009 (UTC)
- RS:IAR, no need to be restricting positive discussion on the Yew Grove everyone. At its base level, the Yew Grove is meant to discuss how to help the wiki, as long as it's not spam I see no need to disallow it from the Yew Grove.-- 01:15, September 15, 2009 (UTC)
Comment - I was not trying to shoot it down or do anything of that nature. I was simply stating that it would be more fit in such places. I'm sorry if it seemed harsh or offensive. Anyway, why not hit the talk page and forums also, to get even more support? Doucher4000******r4000 02:25, September 15, 2009 (UTC)
Comment - Robert, sorry I don't have anything to add to the Runcrafting part of this discussion. I hate to see a lot of these discussions get off track - quickly. Before you know it, these simple discussions get into policy and he-said, she-said. If you don't have anything useful to add, let the discussion die, don't visit it. If someone finds something constructive to add, they will. Tdoubleup 12:24, September 15, 2009 (UTC)
Comment - What I think would be useful to the wiki is a place where users can 'call out' to others, in a visible place, for help investigating something in-game without having to go through the formalities of a wikiguild. I personally have a few things I'd like to investigate, but would take a huge amount of time alone or is impossible for me (e.g. cooking no-burn levels; being level 80 means I'm well over a lot of the levels, and I can't get another member's account purely to investigate), so help from other users would be greatly appreciated. I'm sure there's a good few others who are willing to help or want to be helped with something out there.
In regards to the actual question, I'm hardly an expert runecrafter (training it once in a blue moon) but I can help where required (so long as it doesn't entail playing FoG - I whitescreen every time I try to play ). 21:32, September 20, 2009 (UTC)