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This thread was archived on 18 September 2010 by Degenret01.

I've had a few thoughts about this with the Fansite tournament, wikifests and most recent when Pharos 5 asked me what he should do if he wants to create an event with a few wikians and i thought the wiki doesn't have anything for this. My idea is to have an official events (don't know the right words, kinda like the wiki post). I'm not sure how it would run but it could be a bit like the [[RuneScape:Inter-fansite communication|Inter-fansite communication]] but a little bit more organised because there would be more happening probably. If you have any suggestions for how the idea could be improved please suggest them. Thanks. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 10:59, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Note:This is for an "organisation" to control events not for a single event. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 11:03, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Discussion

Support - As nom. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 10:59, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Question - What are you trying to do? Start a new event? Start a new organisation for events? 222 talk 11:01, August 30, 2010 (UTC) EDIT:Because if you want to start a new event, [[RS:IFC|inter-fansite communication]] is the place to go. 11:02, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

^ bad_fetustalk 11:02, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
Not if it is intra-fansite. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 11:04, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
Inter-fansite communication is for organising things with outer fansites, I think he means organising events like GWD.   Swizz Talk   Events!   11:06, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
So he means something like an events team? 222 talk 11:07, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - Either use the RSWP or the community portal.   Swizz Talk   Events!   11:04, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think you quite get the idea, it's a group that will help plan events for the wiki. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 11:05, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
Why should we limit this to a group? Why cant anyone make events.   Swizz Talk   Events!   11:08, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
I thought we didn't want too much bureaucracy? 222 talk 11:09, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
This is what i have been trying to say but haven't been good at explaining. It will be run like the inter-fansite thing and yes anyone can make events but this will be like a way to organise and promote them. People can make there own private ones if they want but if they want to make it an official event then they could get help planning and promoting it. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 11:18, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps we can integrate this with fansite communication so both parties can have more to do. Because they are both related: event-organisers. It might be more efficient (and with less organisation), but its up to you. All the processes you need are already there, just waiting for someone to use them. RuneScape:Events and Fansite Community perhaps. 222 talk 11:21, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - EDITConflict:222 - To try and clarify, my question to Sentra was about starting a small event to help level up some of the lower level wikians using LS on Cockroach soldiers. I am planning to take a two or three high levels who are willing to help train the lower levels and just go fight them. So, what i think he wants to make is a group/committee thingy to help in the creation and moderation of these events. - [Pharos] 11:25, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

^Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 11:26, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Support - I think it would be great for the wiki and worst case scenario, we don't use it and it becomes another [[Runescape:Market|Market]]. - [Pharos] 11:30, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

It shouldn't and hopefully it doesn't. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 06:14, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - I've tried to push such a proposal before for practical reasons (Forum:Wikifest Committee). It failed because people didn't like the idea of a group planning the event in an authoritarian manner, even though it's much more practical. In this case, I have to say I think the proposal is a bit further in that direction, as the group has the power to decide when and what the events are. --LiquidTalk 10:01, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Comment We have seen what works, and we have seen what does not. We used to try to have a weekly or biweekly event, but it grew stale and people stopped going, stopped planning, stopped being involved. It grew stale. But when a user actually plans an event and then announces it, it happens. Gradius' GWD trips are successful because he is simply doing it, not having a committee discussion. Swizzled was successful at making the inter fansites tourney because he went and did it, not by having discussions. Plan a GOOD event, and announce it. If it is a good event, people will go. We still have the page somewhere for "weekly" events, rename it to "community events" so it is not stuck to a weekly schedule. When an event is planned, site-notice it (I love using nouns as verbs).--Degenret01 10:35, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Should i be advertising the training trip i was planning on my userspace or somewhere else? - [Pharos] 10:42, August 31, 2010 (UTC)
edit conflict I learnt something new. I found [[RS:WE]] existed and Degen likes using nouns as verbs! I oppose making a new group But it would be a great idea to reinvigorate [[RS:WE]] and perhaps Sentra's proposal might just be it. It's always easier to start something when the building-blocks are already there. That's why lazy governments (like NSW) like to work on pointless infrastructure that is "shovel-ready". 222 talk 10:45, August 31, 2010 (UTC)
Yes move WE to where ever this will go an we will not a have a group of people running and created it wouldn't be what would happen, it would be people decide to make an event they tell the events thing and they will help advertise it and maybe have a cc or something for any events people want to have. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 09:25, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
Idea is to just have this page set up. Call it Community Events (RS:CE and RS:EVENTS)or something. Just have a small group maintaining the page and helping advertise/promote the site on sitenotice and whatever. Just putting what you said above into easier to understand words. Yes, you told us you didn't like English 222 talk 09:22, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
You like? Just my attempt. 222 talk 09:41, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
Pretty good, i might make a couple of changes to see what i can do though and your as fast as Speedy Gonzales. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 09:49, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
Yea, sure. You have free rein to edit that part of my userpage, if you want. 222 talk 10:02, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 10:29, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
^That's such a cheap way of moving the thread to the top. There are so many more things you could have said, e.g. annoy Degen about his noobish love of using nouns as verbs. 222 talk 10:43, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
More comments on how well/badly my epically fast typing turned out (Sentra and Pharos' names are illusions BTW Smile) would be nice, because I think most people like this idea. 222 talk 10:43, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Lol. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 10:54, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - I'm not sure about this idea, but I'd support a page with a list of upcoming dates, this allows anyone to add an event, maybe a poll or a comment section to let the organiser know who, and how many they could expect. This means we reduce conflicting events, and the organisers of some of the "worse" events won't be as upset at their events turnout. Edit There's no need for all these "Current and "Volunteer" lists, if a user wants to make an event he just puts the details down, maybe a general or a back-up host. There's no need to over complicate things. 15:53, September 9, 2010 (UTC)   Swizz Talk   Events!   15:49, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, anyone can add an event. They can change their event section into anything they like (within reason). The list of people can be used as users who can help someone who wants to set-up an event but doesn't know how. 222 talk 06:30, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
Yes as Brains said you don't need to be a volunteer to add/run an event, those people are just there for help for people who want it. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 08:11, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
We don't need those lists then, one day they'll will become endless. If a user wants help, he can comment on a users talk page, some one experienced.   Swizz Talk   Events!   16:08, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
If you're new and don't know who is "experience" in this type of work, how are you going to find someone to help? 222 talk 00:06, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
Plus the people who will be there will help with the adverting and running and planning of the event if needed. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 01:50, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
They could just post on the talk page.   Swizz Talk   Events!   09:54, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
I think it's best that people know who is helping out beforehand. I'd just prefer to keep the list there. 222 talk 10:16, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Support - Per all my previous comments and work on this proposal. Disregard any opposes I said earlier. 222 talk 10:16, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Intent - If this passes, [[RS:WE]] will be moved to RS:Community events and then it's contents and talk page will be archived and replaced by the new set-up, with or without modification. 222 talk 10:16, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - My only concern is that these lists will be packed with users.   Swizz Talk   Events!   14:48, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

There IS an evaluation process you know... Even im not joining, my name is there as an example. - [Pharos] 00:41, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
I really doubt there will be a queue of users trying to join. 222 talk 01:37, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - My main concern with this is that it might end up exactly like WE: unused, unkempt, and neglected. --LiquidTalk 03:11, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry about neglected, I will make sure it is always up-to-date and sparkling clean! 222 talk 03:15, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
We won't know if we don't try it and the way it will be set up it shouldn't turn up like that. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 09:01, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Clarification question The absolute only role/purpose of the volunteers is to assist someone in setting up an event if that person so requests such help? And to make sure those adding events do so neatly in the format we are looking for? If that's how it is rolling, yea good, make it so.-- Degen says Unban TLUL  03:23, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

That's it exactly. Nice sig btw. 222 talk 03:32, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
By setting up, are talking page creation and advertising? E.g. wiki stuff. Or does that also include giving tips on how they think the event could be changed and improved? And yes, Admins are in fact better than everyone, except rollback users like me Cuz we R HaX- [Pharos] 04:57, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
They can give tips if they think it would benefit the event Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 07:02, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - WAIT! I just realised that [[RuneScape:Community Events]] already exists! What do we do now? Where do we move it to? Should we just replace the page with the new set-up and delete [[RuneScape:Weekly Events]]? 222 talk 09:05, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Yea, we can archive the old stuff, and start over right there. So this thread can be closed. Get busy.-- Degen says Unban TLUL  09:08, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
Yes sir! =D So I can go ahead? 222 talk 09:10, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
That is what get busy meant, yup.-- Degen says Unban TLUL  09:19, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
Ok, I've copied the page from my sandbox and archived the old page. A Sitenotice entry might be useful to tell people of this new page, I'll also add some links in other relevant pages. 222 talk 09:29, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
Does other relevant pages mean the Noticeboard on RuneScape:Community Portal (more than the SiteNotice)? --Saftzie (talk) 15:04, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
I was planning to have a permanent link on Community Portal, but a sitenotice link for a few weeks like when RS:TODO was created. 222 talk 00:03, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - Looking good guys, I like the layout. I think that 222 and Sentra still need to go through evaluation though.   Swizz Talk   Events!   15:58, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should be automatically given a listing on Community Events, I mean with your track record who wouldn't? I think we should leave it as that, no need to go through another evaluation, it's not necessary and bureaucratic. I still stand by a once over by an existing volunteer to be enough. 222 talk 00:17, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
They are only there to help if some one asks for help, so the eval is not needed.

Closed Implemented.-- Degen says Unban TLUL  06:31, September 18, 2010 (UTC)