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This thread was archived on 19 December 2010 by Stelercus.

Currently we have RS:RFA which is where people go through RFA's, RFB's and RFF's, RS:RFR where people request ranks and RS:RFRB and RS:CUST where people ask for the rollback and custodian tools respectively. We also have all bot requests here on the Yew grove. I propose we make these into 2 single page. RuneScape:Requests for tools and RuneScape:Bureaucrat requests. This would make all requests neater and easier for people to look for things. RS:RFT would have all things currently at RS:RFA plus Rank requests and bot requests. RS:BR would have Custodian and rollback requests as well as any other requests which need 'crat tools are needed. I have made examples of what the pages would look like in my sanboxes. Thanks.

Note: RFR would not reopen if this was passed, but if/when it is reopened all requests will be at RS:RFT. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 03:51, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Direct links to sandboxes: User:Sentra246/Sandbox1, User:Sentra246/Sandbox2 and User:Sentra246/Sandbox3. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 09:58, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Discussion

Support - As nom. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 03:22, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - Well, at least partly oppose. I don't mind the Bureaucrat requests page, since that makes life easier for the crats. My concern with the Request for tools page is that it lumps too many things together. True, they all require some kind of higher community trust. However, it makes the page too large and a bit too overcrowded. There really is no reason to lump Request for bots with rank and adminship. The requests for bots are used so infrequently (as I mentioned in Forum:RuneScape:Requests for bot flag) that there isn't a point to having it on a separate page. Likewise, rank requests are only used when they are needed. Merging everything onto one page will force us to put information about bots and ranks on the same page with information about adminship or forum adminship, which just unnecessarily bloats the page. We want to keep them concise. There is nothing wrong with the current system. --LiquidTalk 03:47, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Bots and rank requests are used so rarely so it's not like we would have different requests for different things at once. Also if you look at the page there is hardly any more information in there than there was before, just a few requirements and a couple of lines about what each thing does. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 03:51, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Partial oppose - I'd have to oppose Requests for tools, as it lumps together way too many mainly unrelated requests. Sysop, forumadmin, ranks, bots and bureaucrats are not related enough and would bloat the page and make it incredibly unorganised, complicating bureaucrats' jobs.

However, Bureaucrat requests is a pretty good idea, and I have to support it. It would make it much easier for users to request these useful functions as well as providing 'crats a central location to check every now and then. 222 talk 04:00, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - Pointless..god forbid we have different pages for the different types of requests. Don't fix what isn't broken. Andrew talk 04:01, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Support - Per nom. I don't see what the problem is as long as the page is clearly divided for each tool. Matt (t) 09:04, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - Per Helm. bad_fetustalk 09:40, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Support both - Because there are not many nominations for bots, and all other requests are already at RS:RFA, so it wouldn't be too much on one page. Also the crat requests is a good idea. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 09:58, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Partial support - I think that the current system is a little disorganised, but I don't think that shoving everything together will help. However, I would propose putting the Custodian requests with the RfAs, and splitting off the requests for 'cratship. If we made an RfB page (nothing to do with this), we could protect it if we don't need more bureaucrats, like what we do with the RfRs. Real Nub 12:34, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Protecting won't work because only sysops can run for 'cratship and you can't protect pages so sysop's can't edit them. Also having more pages isn't really a great idea because thing's like RfB won't be used very often. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 12:36, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
Well, we could put a notice at the top or something. And just 'cause it won't get used often, doesn't mean it can't exist. Real Nub 21:07, December 9, 2010 (UTC)
Well i think you would need consensus on another thread if you wanted to close RfB's Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 04:17, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

We could do a Request for maintenance tools page for Rollback and Custodian, and do a Request for tools page for Sysop +? --中亚人/中亞人 (Chinasian/Jeffwang16) 跟我谈话 14:00, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

What? Where would we do rank, forumadmin and bot requests then? Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 14:07, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
Sysop + means the rest. --中亚人/中亞人 (Chinasian/Jeffwang16) 跟我谈话 14:13, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
How is that any different from my proposal? Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 14:17, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
It isn't... JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 09:58, December 6, 2010 (UTC)
he is Supporting while trying to hide it, or he is trying to be smart and look like he came up with a good idea someone else had, while he actually just copies it. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 11:56, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose 1, Support 2 - RFBU all the way (to avoid confusion with bearcatship) ----クールネシトーク 04:40, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

It RS:BR not RFBU can beercatship is for noobs. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 07:44, December 7, 2010 (UTC)
What is that? 2 scentences in 1? or 3? Are you trying to mimic the "Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"? JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 07:12, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - The current system is fine. Crats aren't bothered that often to need to pile it all on one page. Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 04:45, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Support - I like things on one page :3 ajr 16:42, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Support - Per Ajr. melonWatermelon slice.png 17:32, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Support 2 - Perhaps just show the last 5 (un)successful requests to save on space.   Swizz Talk   Events!   19:32, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Closed - RuneScape:Requests for Tools will not be created, though there is consensus to create RuneScape:Bureaucrat Requests. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 16:27, December 19, 2010 (UTC)