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This thread was archived on 19 September 2009 by Calebchiam.

Back when riots were a fairly rare occurrence (or atleast not an everyday event), these articles were both interesting, relevant, and above all else large enough to be notable. Now, however, it really doesn't seem necesary, to me atleast, to have an article every single time some players gather to complain about an update. Therefore, since all riots are basically the same anyway aside from the update that caused them, I propose that we merge all riot articles into a single article Riot. If the article becomes too long it can always be divided into subarticles based on year or even subject.


Support - As proposed.--

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05:40, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Support - I was thinking almost the same thing, but proposing to delete all riot articles unless they are notable, great sources, etc. Merging them all to the Riot article sounds real great also. Santa hat.png Powers38 おはようヾ(´・ω・`) 05:42, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Support - Sounds fair, I was getting tired of reading too many riot pages and felt like it should all be in one. Runecrafting.gif Mo 55 55 Talk|Sign 09:19, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Support - Per Azaz and Kalindrum. Riots are riots, they are interesting looking back at RuneScape History, but we don't need a separate page for every single riot, since most are not very notable except for ones like the December 10th riots and such. - TehKittyCatTalk Wikian-Book 09:22, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Support - Makes sense. Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 09:41, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Support - btw, I noticed that an artical about a riot in 2008/09 (started on new years eve and ended the next day) was removed. was it not worthy of an artical or what? Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 12:49, 17 July 2009 (UTC) changed to oppose, see below

Support - We could do what has been done with the Glitch article, and an article for '07 riots etc?--Joe Click Here for Awesomeness 15:21, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Support - riots would be something like player articles. Now that's a throwing weapon!Doucher4000******r4000I'll eat you! 17:14, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Support - I'm tired of all these riot articles. Andrew talk 17:40, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Support - Riots really aren't notable, and all these articles really do is encourage rulebreaking. Individual riots certainly don't deserve their own articles. Dtm142 17:51, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Support - Per above. --Quarenon  Talk 18:04, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Support - Makes sense, I don't want to ruin the clear consensus, and all above comments ShinyUnown T | C | E 18:32, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Support - We really don't need an article for every riot. Quest map icon.png Laser Dragon Task map icon.png 20:17, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Support - Per Dtm142 Ruud (talk)(Suggest me naems) 11:21, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Conditional support - If we merge every single riot together into one page, that page will be pretty long. How about, instead of including every juicy detail on some of the bigger riots (e. g. Pay to pk riot), we summarize it before merging? Butterman62 (talk) 12:22, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment We could use the riots page:Riots, We could put something like Riots/(Riot name) and replacing (riot name here) with the actual riot's name. Liam - Beta Tester (talk) 13:46, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Support Yeah makes sense. However, we need to keep some riot articles separate (like the one which resulted from the "Dec 10th Updates"), because otherwise as stated above the article will be too long. Dragon 2h sword old.pngCallofduty4 Talk

Strong Support - Also, to Callofduty4, the reason why the riots after the Dec 10th updates will make the article too long is because there are FAR too many pictures and FAR too much exposition. It can be cut back drastically and still convey all necessary information. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 14:30, 21 July 2009 (UTC)


Support Seems like a good idea, as long as people searching for a specific riot will be redirected to this page. AttackJdogy15 TalkDragonfire shield 00:31, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment - I read on one of our adminstrative pages that we consider all information to be valuble and should have an artical about everything other than playes. did I reed this wrong? Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 09:41, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

No, you didn't, BUT... this! kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 11:54, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Are you implying that we should use IAR to ignore RS:G? If so, that's not how it works. IAR's point is that if, say, someone needs to edit someone's userpage to remove something offensive, they can bypass RS:DEU, since it's for the betterment of the Wiki. Not having an article on something would be counterproductive, so IAR wouldn't apply. Dragon medium helm! Whaddaya know?Chiafriend12Better than rune!Loon is best buttlord 01:47, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
You seem to be confusing "article" with "information". I don't favor the deletion of any valid information on the wiki. But every little tiny bit of information in the wiki doesn't need to have its own article. Also, you act as if your interpretation of IAR is absolutely true. Nowhere in IAR does it specify which rules can and cannot be ignored. In fact it specifically says "Common sense takes precedence over any policy." Note the any. The specific part of IAR I'm citing is:
Remember that all rules are really just generalized guidelines, and you don't have to follow them all the time if you really think it isn't improving the wiki.
Having an article for every single riot doesn't help the wiki at all. There's no real reason for it to be this way (and if you have one I'd like to hear it). In fact, I think it would be far better to have things the way as proposed. So why should granularity stop us? kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 01:59, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Support Enough said =D Black cavalier.pngFerrelShadowSlayer cape (t).png 16:12, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Oppose (Yea, somebody did) I just say Yes, merge the articles, but notable riots, like the Pay to PK one, or the Rule 7 riot, should be mantained as individual articles. Balance iz powa!4ndrepd TalkContribsStupid monkeys actually have a use...Jump to the God Wars II! 19:47, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Conditional Support - Like 4ndrepd said, I would like the more important and memorable riots to stay. ~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  06:32, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Support - any point I would make has already been made Pith helmetDuckmartins 19:34, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Chnaged to Oppose - I can definatly see why it is that one would like this, as I did at one point, but I am changeing to oppose as per granularity. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 09:18, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Conditional Support - As long as notable riots will keep their articles. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 16:06, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Conditional Support - Per 4ndrepd. Amethyst II Talk 01:57, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Maybe make it like Glitch? The notable glitches still have their own articles, the slightly less notable ones are mentioned in the main article, and the ones that aren't very notable are mentioned in a subpage. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 07:18, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Conditional Support and Comment - There will always be riots and unsettledness if an update is unfavourable to certain people, thus amounts of articles about riots will keep increasing. Many riots go forgotten and undocumented if they are too small: so what constritutes a large enough and article-worthy riot? --  Nequillim  T C E   08:38, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

@Nequillim - A big riot would be a very notable riot, and have a large amount of information on the riot. I think Pay to Pk riot and Wilderness Riot, for example would be kept, but like Graphics Riot and Mod Hasmo riot would be merged into the Riot page. Amethyst II Talk 11:40, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Request for Closure

After looking through the riot articles, the Pay to PK riot will maintain it's original and seperate page due to it's size, the other riots however, will be merged either due to lack of notability (e.g. Mod Hasmo riot) or lack of unique information (e.g. the Wilderness riot). All information will be kept and abridged where necessary, should the riot page become too lengthy it will be divided into subpages by years. If no major opposition has been raised to this request within two days, the changes will be implemented as this thread as lasted over two months.--

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03:42, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Closed - C.ChiamTalk 04:48, September 19, 2009 (UTC)