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This thread was archived on 5 July 2009 by Calebchiam.

Today, at the runescape wikia civil war, an incident came up. One of the matches had just finished, and I world hopped. I joined "R S WIKIA" and chaos monk said "You suck for leaving, Supirion1". This is not the first time Chaos monk has flamed me, and there were some witnesses to this incident. Other users told me that he repeatedly flamed everyone merely because our team (Calebs) had only won one match and lost the rest. I do got some screenies, but I am yet to upload them to photobucket. Other users may have gotten screenies, but I do not know. Lovely torso armourSupirion1Talk Contribs #Summoning.png 03:14, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

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Support - As nominator. Lovely torso armourSupirion1Talk Contribs #Summoning.png 03:15, 14 June 2009 (UTC) Support - I saw chaos monk flaming and cursing a lot of times during the war, and tried to explain by saying that our (chia's) team was with more people or because he was being piled, although I don't think that this explains what he did. Quest point cape detail.png Brux Talk 03:30, 14 June 2009 (UTC) Support - If he has been flaming then he needs a block to cool off. ~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  09:14, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Question Do we have screenies of this flaming please?--Degenret01 09:28, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Supirion did not upload it just yet. Santa hat.png Powers38 おはようヾ(´・ω・`) 09:35, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - I understand that being directly insulted is pretty annoying, especially when it is uncalled for. But I also understand that some people in the gaming world (younger people) really dislike losing and become a little too competitive. In my experience people like this just need a little reminding that its all in good fun and to calm down a little bit. A simple kick with a "don't do that again" attached to it would suffice in my opinion. Now if he comes back with the same attitude or immediately seeks revenge, then you start dropping bans. Cap and goggles.pngTEbuddy 09:46, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Not much can actually be said until you show us the actual screenshots so that we can see how serious the flaming was. C.ChiamTalk 09:48, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Caleb is right; nothing much can be said until seeing the screenshots as we can't know what really happened right now. bad_fetustalk 10:04, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - A ban should not be issued per tebuddy. If a ranked user didn't warn chaos monk, then a ranked user should have. Only after he has been kicked and if he continues can I support a ban. Warn > Kick > Ban. Karis Talk to me 10:23, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - A kick will suffice. If he continues to be immature then we shall temp ban him, I am sure.Joe Click Here for Awesomeness14:25, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Pending - I will wait till the screenshots come then decide since I wasn't there. Zaros tally.PNGBladeQuick chat button.png# 15:43, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - Its not too serious. A kick will do. However, if the flaming continues, a temp ban may be necesarry. As time passes though, this discussion may change depending on Chaos Monk's behaviour --— Enigma 15:51, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

As the Accused, if I may, I'd like to explain/justify myself. In regards to the "Civil War", Supirion left unannounced, and, in general, the whole team was upset with that. He gave no hint off that he would from what I, and what I believe my teammates, saw. Naturally, this was very discerning since our team was already outmatched. Also, I can't say I "flamed" anyone at all during the Civil War, I made no personal attacks. Anything that I would consider an "attack" was retaliation to people coming up to me saying "eater" and similar things; they were no big deal. Another thing is that Supirion claims that "This is not the first time Chaos monk has flamed me", though I never have. We've disagreed on things, yes, but I've never flamed/attacked him. Maybe he considers disagreements a "flame", but from everything I read on it, it's not considered it. The screenshots he has are either from the civil war (which Bruxacosmica has already talked about) where a filter is in place and I'm not attacking anybody, just complaining as I do, and the one where I found him sitting in the clan chat, and told him how I felt at the moment, which he basically summed up at the top. He left before I could apologize, so I had no way to say that (and his wikia page says he's retired).

In all, I'll take what consensus calls for, and I'm more than willing to make amends with him if he'll allow me. If this message isn't supposed to be here, I apologize as well. Zaros symbol.pngChaos Monk Talk SignCoins 250.png 17:15, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Oppose I like what Chaos said above, he manned up. And I believe the "offense" was pretty trivial. Supiron, what I am going to say next may anger you but it is not meant to. And that is, you in your position should certainly be understanding and forgiving of others. Accidents happen, words get said in the heat of the moment, forgive and move on man.--Degenret01 21:37, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - Per Chaos Monk and Degenret above. You can't jump the gun every time you see what you think is an insult, especially when it's something as silly as this. Andrew talk 22:50, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Changed to Neutral - Per Chaos Monk. ~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  23:53, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment - If I'm not mistaken, this was the second battle (Jack Spiral1 represented Chia, I represented Caleb). We (in my CC - me, Chaos, Supirion and another (I apologise, I forget your name)) vs Jack, Bruxacosmica, Karilz, and two others. We were far outclassed (I was the highest level, and Brux ever so slightly outclasses me, and Karilz has the ability to fairly easily decimate most of us, as he has over 90 ranged). Then, one match, Supirion dissapears and the opponents team increases by one, so we thought he had joined their team (this may have not been the case; I didn't see Supirion myself after he left, but I didn't see the "Supirion1 has logged out." message either).

This should explain for why Chaos said it. I wasn't actually in the wiki's CC when it was said however, I had to leave early (or earlier than the rest). Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 12:47, 15 June 2009 (UTC)


Oppose - Reading a few opposes got me to change it. If we keep asking "request to temp ban user" after most stuff, it might not be good. We could lose editors and other people's interest seeing that we would perm/temp ban people for flaming or something even as something as the war. I'm sure that the war usually brings out the bad side of the people (I have, I saw degen's bad side also at the war.=/) because of how hyped up they are to win for their team. Santa hat.png Powers38 おはようヾ(´・ω・`) 12:51, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Closed - We will not ban Chaos Monk from the CC. C.ChiamTalk 12:32, 5 July 2009 (UTC)