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This thread was archived on 3 April 2010 by Calebchiam.

My name is Angel's fire, and I would like to request that the Runescape Wiki affiliates with the Unrunescape Wiki, http://prunescape.wikia.com. Yes, the old version was removed. However, under my direction we are going to be a lot different than from what has come before.

Reasons for Affiliation:

  • Look at some of our articles such as Underground Pass, K'ril Tsutsaroth and Kree'Arra. This is not just obscene jokes about cyber and she-males- this is genuine satire.
  • We have made it quite clear that all material is copyrighted by Jagex, and we are avoiding any libellous statements. This is including in several editing guidelines that have been created. We won't publish just anything.
  • However, we are struggling to advertise. The Runescape Wiki is a hugely respected site and if you affiliate with us, then people will be more willing to trust us. I can guarantee that any poor articles which threaten to discredit the Runescape Wiki because of "guilt by association" will either be immediately rewritten or deleted.

Please, give us a second chance. There's a new team, and this time we're on pure satire. With affiliation, this will become an "Unwiki" of which we can all be proud. The Fire of the AngelsPester me!

Deaffiliation discussion: Forum:Remove UnRuneScape Wiki from sister sites - C.ChiamTalk 13:01, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Discussion

Question - How will you make sure those obscene jokes don't come back? Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 10:28, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Neutral leaning towards Support - Your site is really funny, and if it was just for the humour I'd support. But you have alot of words that people would find offensive, not words like the "F word" or the "S word" but words like "retarded" which is an actual condition that shouldn't be used as an insult. If you were to get rid of words like these. I would support.   Swizz Talk   Events!   10:44, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Extreme Support - I think he may have a point. This wiki is too serious IMO so we need to have a counterpart which gives this wiki at least a "fun" side.

I'm an admin, I'll make sure they don't get away with it. Besides, I'm good friends with the other URS burecrat, so we can co-operate on this. And yes, I will remove "retarded" straight away for something less offensive. You're right- that could be a problem. 'The Fire of the Angels' Pester me! 12:45, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

But are you sure that the two of you can prevent this website from becoming what it used to be? Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 12:46, March 27, 2010 (UTC)
I am sure. We'll easily be able to track any overtly poor articles and remove them. You have my guarentee on that. No lines like "Mod Cheese's cheesy ----" here. The Fire of the AngelsPester me!

Pending, leaning towards oppose - The previous un-wiki was deleted for breaking Jagex Copyrights, and this wiki has not been shut down for that because of the neutral point of view policy, as far as I know (correct me if this is incorrect). I fear that the new un-wiki will simply be deleted again for the same reason, so I will watch the discussion a bit more before making a final decision. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 12:53, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I think that's most mentions of the word "retard" gone now. I don't think there are any more.

As to the copyright issue, there is a notice saying all materials are copyrighted by Jagex, and they're used under the terms of fair use. The Fire of the AngelsPester me!

Comment - The support tally is pointless. We don't count votes, we use consensus to determine whether something passes or not. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 12:57, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry. I've deleted it and I'll check those articles. The Fire of the AngelsPester me!
I was about to say this before I got an edit conflict. from you OMG!. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 13:00, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Neutral, leaning oppose - I'm still leaning towards the older de-affiliation discussion. --LiquidTalk 15:13, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose at this time - I'm pretty sure the old un-runescape wiki started out like this as well. The only way to see if the wiki is really going to change is to give it time for these extremely lewd comments to be added back, and see how the wiki's admins react. We need to give this wiki more time to grow to see just what it becomes. I would like to see this discussion brought up in 2-3 months, so we can have a true idea of what sort of content it will have. Because I don't think we can really get an idea of what the wiki is in its current state, I'm going to oppose at this time. --Aburnett(Talk) 15:22, March 27, 2010 (UTC)


I know I have no proof of this yet, but I shall try to avoid it becoming like the old Wiki. The Fire of the AngelsPester me!

I have no doubt you intend to keep the new wiki up to the highest standards, but what if you should become inactive? (life happens...) Other admins might have a different idea of how to maintain the wiki in your absence. --Aburnett(Talk) 19:56, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - Per Aburnett. --Coolnesse 19:59, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Not Yet - It seems to me that you're really trying hard to make the URSW a better place. I suggest we wait for a few weeks/months to see how things go when it gets a little bigger, and we make the decision then. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 20:02, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Strong Oppose - Your wiki is humorous. But I do not see a point in us being affiliated with you. Also, did anyone ever tell you that your signature is against our policy to not have animations? HaloTalk 20:02, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Eh, it's against the policy to have animations as in .gif files. It's not against the policy to make text blink like that. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 20:05, March 27, 2010 (UTC)
"Signatures must not have animations in them." - That seems like a coverall to me. HaloTalk 20:23, March 27, 2010 (UTC)
A lot of signatures blink. --Coolnesse 20:25, March 27, 2010 (UTC)
So, if a lot of people commit murder, that makes it okay? I would like to see clarification on this rule. HaloTalk 20:29, March 27, 2010 (UTC)
Than bring it up in its own forum. --Aburnett(Talk) 20:34, March 27, 2010 (UTC)
Aburnett is right, my stuff is off topic, thus let's leave it alone on here. HaloTalk 20:38, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Mild Oppose - Per above, let it grow some more and then consider friendship with it. Ajraddatz Talk 20:04, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

How does my signature "blink"? The Fire of the AngelsPester me!

I have dropped it, it is off topic. I request that we stay on the affiliation topic. HaloTalk 21:06, March 27, 2010 (UTC)
By "blink", I meant that the text appears, disappears, reappears, etc. Couldn't think of a better word to describe that than "blink". Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 22:23, March 27, 2010 (UTC)
Can we drop this at request of myself and Aburnett? HaloTalk 22:26, March 27, 2010 (UTC)
If he asks something, it would be rude not to answer. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 22:28, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

oppose - imo, there is intelligent humor, and humor that is only funny to those between the ages of 14 and 25. yours would fit in the second. Third age robe top.png 3rd age farcaster Third age druidic robe top.png 23:24, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Weak oppose - When the word "shit" is used four times in one article, the humor starts getting pretty tasteless. I also think we should give this wiki some time to experience some growth before we consider affiliating with it again.  Tien  23:49, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Not just that. A lot of the entire wiki has to do with insulting different groups of people. While it may just be a joke...it isn't very nice...or very funny... HaloTalk 23:57, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Not yet/maybe never - I do worry about sites like this. If it matures over time I might consider supporting but it is a brand new wiki which is very rusty, light on the satire and heavy on the personal vendettas. I do worry when Angel, the admin on prunescape who proposed this affiliation and who really pushed that "We have made it quite clear that all material is copyrighted by Jagex, and we are avoiding any libellous statements", wrote this article titled "Bullshit" which is all about how everything that Jagex says and does is bullshit. Sadly, it is the wiki's 7th most visited page. Unicorn horn dust.png Evil Yanks talk 00:33, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - Facts are stupid things... Dtm142 23:51, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Probably never - If the wiki continues as it has been, it will meet the same fate as the old one. Simple as that. Hello71 02:52, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - I'd like to see the UnRunescape Wiki gather people by itself first since, as you said, you are new. I do not mean it offensively, but I don't want us to be a crutch and give you everything. My philosophy is that you earn what you get, and I'd like to see you earn a positive reputation/more productive members before we talk about affiliation. Zaros symbol.pngChaos Monk Talk SignCoins 250.png 04:33, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Weak oppose - Can someone please direct me to where it says "Warning: Offencive Language is on this site", Otherwise, I do find it extremely refreshing. Per Evil Yanks.

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09:52, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose/Not Yet Per others, looked through the UnRunescape wiki there is quite a bit of things that can be offensive and as those have not been shown to be cleaned up yet is too soon to make a decision regarding if it truly is being cleaned up or not. Korasi's sword.png Archmage Elune  TalkHS Void knight deflector.png fetus is my son and I love him. 05:46, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - I tryed cleaning up the old one and half of it was reverted. I don't trust it and I will probably never will. But if it is clean, Cleaner than it is now I might change my vote. Twig Talk 772kZGs.png 05:52, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Closed - We will not affiliate with the Unrunescape Wiki at this time. C.ChiamTalk 01:56, April 3, 2010 (UTC)