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This thread was archived on 13 September 2010 by Stelercus.

I've been throwing this idea around for a while now. After Aburnett's request to get the bot flag for BurnettBot, though, I think time has come for me to propose it. We currently have ten accounts with the bot flag. The list is found at RS:BOTLIST. Of the ten, half of them have been inactive. They were last run over a year ago. The reason main reason that the bots have fallen inactive is that their operators have become inactive. Furthermore, some of the bots were made for one-off purposes, such as image-file conversion or fixing tradable to tradeable. One bot, GEBot, is now obsolete as its purpose is taken on by SmackBot.

I am thus proposing that we remove the bot flag from four of the five inactive bots. They are:

The other inactive bot is FBB, controlled by Andrew. FBB should keep its flag since Andrew is still active on the wiki, and could conceivably use the bot again.

Should this proposal pass, I think that in the unlikely event the bot owner(s) return and want to operate the bot again, they should be able to request the bot flag back without another discussion. This is similar to what sysops can do with their user rights on the wiki and with their clan chat rank. --LiquidTalk 19:50, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Discussion

Support - As nominator. --LiquidTalk 19:50, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Support - My thoughts exactly. --Aburnett(Talk) 19:52, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Support - I guess. I don't really see how they are harming anything by just being there. HaloTalk 19:57, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - I wouldn't call FBB active. Last month I used it to tidy up all the Yew Grove discussions. It just hasn't edited much lately because I've been busier. Andrew talk 20:43, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Support - Makes sense to de-bot the inactive ones. ajr 22:36, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Neutral - There's not much use of it being on them but it's not hurting the wiki either. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 06:48, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Neutral - Per Sentra. 222 talk 07:21, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Neutral - What about inactive admins? They don't use their tools. But it's not hurting anything to have them keep the tools, just another log action to remove them. Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 07:23, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

There's a difference here. Bot tasks are large tasks that are generally planned beforehand. The use of sysop tools can rarely be planned, as you don't know when someone is going to vandalize. That's why I don't support removing sysop tools, because the inactive sysops can suddenly come back in a vandal attack and find himself with out the tools. On the other hand, taking the bot flag away is not going to kill anyone, because bot tasks are not urgent, and the bot operator has plenty of time to plan and request the flag if he decides to return, which I find extremely unlikely. --LiquidTalk 19:29, August 26, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah...but I don't see how they are hurting. (Not saying they are helping), just saying I don't see it as that big of a deal. HaloTalk 19:50, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - Amg inactive bots, its the [email protected]@. bad_fetustalk 10:16, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Support - They're inactive, it doesn't serve us much use to keep them since they've finished their task. svco4bY.png3Gf5N2F.png 14:14, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Support - Per Zam and Ajr SaradominSign Me! 18:38, August 29, 2010 (UTC)


This request for closure is complete A user has requested closure for Removing the bot flag. Request complete. The reason given was: complete

svco4bY.png3Gf5N2F.png 21:19, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Closed - Bots with tasks that have either been completed or that are simply no longer in use are to be removed from the Bot user-group. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 09:34, September 13, 2010 (UTC)