Forum:Remove the Wikiguilds
The RuneScape Wikiguilds was a good idea... 4 years ago. Now, it is just a useless area that isn't even monitored anymore. Most of the wiki guilds are things that users could just Be bold and do with out a proposal, intrested members, etc.... Some even fit better as a yew grove forum. It seems time to remove them.
Remove - As nominator (This is a community project so it didnt seem to be best to do an Rfd). Hair 14:59, January 24, 2012 (UTC)
Remove - It was never really used anyway. Users can set up projects as subpages of their own user pages, and invite others to work there instead. --Sαcrε Fι (edit my sig) | (edit my user page) 15:02, January 24, 2012 (UTC)
Remove - first time I even heard of them.16:41, January 24, 2012 (UTC)
Remove - Only time I've heard of them is during Joey's first RfA. Sound like they're defunct22:17, January 24, 2012 (UTC)
Oppose - I don't see why we can't just try to improve them instead of just deleting them. The problem with them right now is there is not much to do in them, however, in the future, it could be used as a place to organize reviews and set goals etc. WikiGuilds are also a great place to discuss minor changes that would affect a certain scope. Putting them in the userspace would see a decrease of activity (for example, because of less advertisement) and it would be much more difficult to organize reviews and such.
Second, I disagree that the whole project is dead, and would not mind monitoring them as a whole myself. There are a couple guilds members have expressed interest in (i.e., the Quests Guild). The projects on Wikipedia seem to be doing well, and I think these ones can as well with a little more effort put into them. Smithing (talk | contribs) 01:20, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
- That's a good example, if a touch embarrassing for me, as I made that Quest Guide proposal, but it also was an example of how it ended up being abandoned. I frequently clean up quest guides according to RS:QSG still, but I realized early on that the project ("wikiguild") was unnecessary: I don't need a project to edit quest guides. The table never got finished, as it quickly became apparent it would be too much work to try and keep it up to date. If I really wanted, I could copy the table to my userspace and it wouldn't make a difference. And with all due respect to the members of the various projects, how often do we actually edit the articles the project was targeted at? We often edit on whim, forgetting the projects we scrawled our names on (which means absolutely nothing, really). Hofmic Talk 20:00, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
Comment - We certainly need some way to organize projects. The process for WikiGuilds is vague and not really followed, so if we decide to keep them we might as well streamline it (there's no need for proposal subpages, etc.) These kinds of projects will live on in userspace if we delete the WikiGuilds, so I don't know if it really matters one way or another. But if we do delete them, let's make sure we archive everything. ʞooɔ 01:27, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
Delete - I thought about this as well when cook said this, but just never got round to posting it. The wikiguild for calculators isn't used, and the only time things are done to it, is when a user comes across it and works on it for a day or 2. The wikiguilds simply aren't used, and really, they aren't going to be used. While they may work on wikipedia, we don't have anywhere near the same amount of editors, and people aren't going to follow a project. If something needs to be done, it is usually done in userspace, User:Thebrains222/Projects/Portals being the prime example. 01:36, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
Comment - I think some of you fail to see the reality of the situation. You can't just be bold and finish everything the WikiGuild requires. The Music Article WikiGuild calls for a huge addition of information for our music articles; how could one or two users do this on the spot all by themselves with no coordination? And how can it be said this is already covered by the Yew Grove? The Yew Grove is a place to pass proposals. In a way, the WikiGuilds are a way to implement them. It's sad that rarely happens. I probably would support the deletion, but in a few days I'll probably propose something different that may replace this. Chicken7 >talk 06:17, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
Delete - useless, unessarry and almost never used, also can be done in userspace as mentioned above... nothing more to itWer den König nicht ehrt, ist nicht Lebenswert. 07:48, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
Remove - just a week ago, as a newb, I looked and looked for the 'Varrock Cleaners' under community > projects. Nuke from orbit.09:31, January 26, 2012 (UTC)
Closed - There is consensus to remove WikiGuilds. The subpages of RuneScape:WikiGuilds will be archived in their current form and the main RuneScape:WikiGuilds page will be modified to reflect these changes. Matt (t) 10:36, February 4, 2012 (UTC)