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This thread was archived on 29 January 2011 by Liquidhelium.

I recently realised that editing in Oasis/Wikia skin can be slow, laggy, and extremely frustrating. I think the major cause of lag could be due to JS scripts which constantly refresh/update the page unnecessarily. It is more noticeable in Firefox than in IE. Has anyone else lagged while editing/viewing?

Causes which may cause lag:

  • displayTimer (located at MediaWiki:Common.js/displayTimer.js)
    Basically provides a real-time clock, updating every second, in UTC with a link to purge the page. Is this clock/timer necessary in every single page, and with such accuracy? If the UTC clock is really that important, then it is quite easy to add additional clocks in the taskbar (Vista & Windows 7, Mac). The purge link can be relocated elsewhere. Exception can be made for event pages and/or during festivities.
  • timeAgo (located somewhere in a page called oasis_loggedin_js)
    This updates the text located just below the page heading (Edited X mins/hours/days ago by User Y). The text is refreshed/updated every minute. IMO, this is a waste as I don't think we really need real-time updates. If possible, this should be disabled (Edited by User Y), or modified to update less frequently.

Argh! {{Rolling eyes}} {{Rolling eyes}} {{Rolling eyes}}   az talk   09:52, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Discussion

support i find it annoying too, but what if wikia says its covered by the tos? they could very well do so, invalidating this thread, and pretty much anything else we try to do about it. LMRTBucket detail.pngrwojy 10:06, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Comment - As long as they are replaced and made known through the Gadgets extension, then fine. However, I don't see how diplayTimer would lag anyone. It created a valid link to goto an article in the Wikia skin if you wanted to exit editing an article and there are many more scripts that should also be disabled than these. On another note, FF never loads MediaWiki:Wikia.js, but it's a Wikia issue. Ryan PM 10:12, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Loads for me... but I'm usually on monobook. Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 10:37, January 22, 2011 (UTC)
It hasn't worked (MediaWiki:Wikia.js) since the release of the skin and has never been called by FF. I'm not the only one that experiences this. I'm under the assumption it still takes calls from MediaWiki:Oasis.js. Ryan PM 10:45, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Support - gtfo lag bad_fetustalk 10:31, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Half Oppose - displayTimer hasn't caused me anymore lag than normal and I'm in firefox. As for the timeAgo thing... I don't care, I don't use the wikia skin Lol. Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 10:37, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose 1, Support 2 - displayTimer hasn't caused me anymore lag than normal and I'm in (this is where it deviates) Chrome. The timeAgo thing is just useless and has no purpose but to lag. 222 talk 10:40, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Meh 1, Oppose 2 - It does seem pretty pointless, but it causes me no lag. I kinda like the timeAgo, because I can just look at the top of a page to see if I should scroll down to see if there was any new messages. svco4bY.png3Gf5N2F.png 16:49, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Support both - Per nom. However, I only support removing the timer as long as some sort of purge button remains or if it is made accessible though the gadgets extension. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 17:03, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Support both - I've had horrendous lag ever since Oasis has been here. Every page takes 30 seconds to load and half of the time they don't [load]­. And no, I don't have a suckish computer/Internet. I can run pretty much every game at max graphics and it goes great... except for the god damn wikia. As for the second proposal, just change it so it says: "last edited on x date". Quest point cape.pngTalk Newbie856 edit count Nomad guideMusic icon.png 18:10, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

It's a max of 14 days per the PHP. This means the avatar will remain and after 14 days, all it would say is "Last edited" instead of "Last edited $1" per the MediaWiki page. Ryan PM 20:57, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Strong oppose 1, Support 2 - The displaytimer is really useful imo, as it makes navigating to the page itself a lot easier. For example, you want to change the url to the actual page name instead of the page that redirected you. Then you gotta do just 1 click on the timer, and you are there. It is also useful to compare your own time with the official RuneScape Wiki time (UTC) so you know, for example, when to come to an event if you gotta be there 20:00h UTC. It just has too many uses to be removed imo. If it is possible, though, there should be a button to dismiss it to speed up page loads, and if you change your mind it should be possible to get it back. Just don't remove it altogether please. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 19:47, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Support 2 - As long as Wikia lets us I guess. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 03:22, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Support 1 If some people can't remember their UTC offset, fine, by why force this dumb timer on the rest of us? It should be a configurable option. Sagarmatha 04:31, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Comment - I don't really care...so long as we tell people they can add the code to personal js. HaloTalk 04:24, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - Both will be removed by someone who knows how to do this without breaking it. (aka, not me) --LiquidTalk 03:21, January 29, 2011 (UTC)