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Hi there

I have made this thread with interest regarding a somewhat new user in the clan chat by the name butterkity.

This user has been causing excess amounts of controversy over the last few days, with excessive amounts of spamming, elitism on other's achievements by quickchatting their higher levels whenever someone levels up a skill of similar nature, and excessive requests for high ranks, which shows that this user clearly has not paid attention to the rules. This user does not listen to any of the warnings bestowed upon them, as this behaviour has continued for many weeks now.

It is apparent that this level of disruption is beginning to annoy several users of the clan chat, and I have made this thread with intention of invoking a short ban on this user, or at least discussing what can be done to combat this.

Personally, I would like to see a short, temporary ban placed on the user, perhaps 2 weeks long, just as a stronger type of warning to let them know that we're now sick and tired of what is happening.

I will alert the user of this thread, in the case that would like to state their defence in what has happened.

Thanks RSN: Warthog Rhys Talk Completionist's cape... Coming soon. 00:05, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

logs please - I've never seen this person before, could you please provide one or two examples of the behaviour you've mentioned above? Ronan Talk 00:09, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

i've requested rank for recruit to corp which is 1 rankButterkitty (talk) 00:11, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Butter, you requested a rank even after being warned numerous times about that and other infractions, which suggests that you do not take into consideration your image in the eyes of other users. The point here is that people are disappointed by your behavior.--Cheers, Off-hand ascension crossbow.pngYodaAscension crossbow.png 00:15, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
the opinion of yoda is invalid because of a bias against me Butterkitty (talk) 00:19, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
I don't want to get involved, but please don't delete discussions. MolMan 00:23, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
That is not how it works. You cannot dictate which views are valid or not based on whether you like them or not. If you have evidence that yoda lies which would invalidate his statement then feel free to post it What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 00:23, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
i told yoda that i took ap calc and he has been hating on me sinceButterkitty (talk) 00:42, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
Feel free to provide evidence of that. Yoda, feel free to do likewise What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 00:44, February 3, 2013
how do i provide evidence,screenshot?Butterkitty (talk) 00:56, February 3, 2013 (UTC)(UTC)
That is the usual manner in which we provide evidence for ingame activity What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 00:58, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Comment - He seems to me like the new Bawble. I'm entirely in favour of a temp ban. It takes more than you can imagine to annoy me to this degree. King Kolton9 (9 more options)  Choose OptionUser Page King Kolton9 (Level: 9001)Talk to King Kolton9Edit Count King Kolton9Chat at IRCMy Pages My SandboxMy Contributions 00:12, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Support the 2 week block - This user is immature and disrupting; I've noticed his antics first hand, as have multiple other clan admins. S T Y G 00:13, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Support - Per the kitty known as Styg. Also Parsons. Korasi's sword.png Archmage Elune  TalkHS Void knight deflector.png fetus is my son and I love him. 00:21, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Comment - I tired of him continually spamming and being generally irritating. He begged and begged to join a dg group despite being told we are full. Initially he was told politely and then he was told to sod off, because he wouldn't stop begging, whinging and complaining while we were trying to enjoy Astra's Max cape achievement. Each time I see him in clan chat, he's doing saying something stupid, offensive or ignorant. I support the ban. SheWhoIsNex (talk) 00:30, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Support - Butterkity quickchats his 99s even when it is not relevant whatsoever to the conversation and ignores people who ask him to stop. It seems the only thing he wants from this clan is ranks. Also, though this may not be against the clan's rules, he logged on to 3 accounts at the same time and kept saying "hi". Megadog1414 (talk) 01:49, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Support - Butterkity has ignored repeated requests (from multiple members) to modify the behaviour that is annoying many people.  He is aware that his behaviour is not acceptable, but seems not to care.  While I understand that he is quite young, and socially inept, it would seem that a stronger statement is needed in order to encourage him to improve.  However, I suspect that his attention span is not great.  I suggest starting off with a 1 week block, followed by a 2 week block if the disruptive behaviour persists upon his return, followed by a month, if needed, and ultimately ending in a long-term ban should those measures prove ineffective. I've changed my mind.  He deserves a long-term (possibly even permanent) ban right off the bat.  He's guilty of multi-logging, spamming/disruptive behaviour, and now extortion, which I think might fall under the "solicitation" rule.  He's hopeless, and the clan would be better off without him.  -- Ms ZuZu Jpaddon (talk) 02:08, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Support: Butterkity excessively spams as people has already stated, failing to stop promptly when requested. I also screenshotted (him? her?) asking in what they thought was another clan chat if they could get to a high rank if they joined, followed by "wc" and "wrong chat". Dr. Vector (talk) 02:23, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

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i was asking KOS that question and i forgot to use /// i used //Butterkitty (talk) 02:29, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

That's not the point. This screenshot simply highlights your focus on ranking above all else, making it clear that you are seeking a "trophy rank" as opposed to earning a rank through positive contributions and mature character. Your constant questions about how and when you can rank up is one of problems people have with you. -- Ms ZuZu Jpaddon (talk) 02:44, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Support - Although I tend to err on the side of lenience, I feel butterkity has pushed the boundaries both of the rules and of what is socially acceptable behavior. Due to his lack of concern for others and extreme lack of maturity, I agree that stronger measures must be taken. In response to his post above, who the question was directed to is irrelevant. It clearly states an intention to leave without courtesy to the clan he is already in. Cbits ([[w:c:doom:User talk:Cbits|talk]]) 02:37, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Comment - A major situation occured about 30 minutes ago in which User:-Stygmata- removed Butterkity from the clan with his reasoning centered around RS:SNOW and this thread. I'm not sure if this is the appropriate place to post this, however, I figured that is revolves around this whole situation, that this would be the best place to put this. Evidence of the situation is found at: [1]. RSN: Warthog Rhys Talk Completionist's cape... Coming soon. 03:02, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

I also apologise for the poor editing and organisation of the screenshots. I was highly busy at the time, keying in a dungeon. RSN: Warthog Rhys Talk Completionist's cape... Coming soon. 03:03, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
I understand the action I took was poorly made, rushed, and too early since the thread's creation; this was due to my interpretation of RS:SNOW. I still support the two -week temp ban for butterkity, and I hope butter will mature and understand his actions if a consensus is reached, and if he is given this kick. S T Y G 03:16, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
Everybody makes mistakes from time to time. How you deal with it is what matters most. You took responsibility for your error, you fixed it, and you learned from it. That tells me more about your character than the mistake itself ever could. Ok EDIT: I'd aslo like to point out that Styg acted swiftly to make corrections after a brief discussion in the CC, lasting only minutes.  Butterkity has had the benefit of days or even weeks of discussion regarding his offences, and has made no effort to respond positively.  I'm just sayin'.  -- Ms ZuZu Jpaddon (talk) 03:44, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
As a reminder in future, RS:SNOW requires a week of a thread being open before it can be closed and then enacted, regardless of consensus. As an unrelated side note, Megadog1414's comment above suggests the accused is breaking Jagex's rules and thus the wiki's rules which I believe warrants a ban by itself, ignoring the disruption caused. cqm 16:22, 3 Feb 2013 (UTC) (UTC)

Support short temp ban - Bawbling, spamming, straight up saying that they are better than everyone else, doing things continuously even after asked to stop. I lack evidence because I threw them on my ignore list, and I'm not going to undo that to prove my point unfortunately. After all, I put him there for a reason WgvxeSr.png - frouZAC.png 7:10 pm, Today (UTC−8)

Temporary ban - It's quite blatant from the user in question's posts on this thread, and Rhys' screenshots, that this Butterkitty is a disruptive punk. A fortnight's break could be the right way to help him/her to take a step back and see what they could improve on. Ronan Talk 12:12, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

More evidence - The user was asking for a sum of ingame gold, to leave the clan for good. This is pathetic behaviour. [2] [3] RSN: Warthog Rhys Talk Completionist's cape... Coming soon. 18:09, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Even more evidence - In which he states that he will leave the clan forr 10-20M.  [4]-- Ms ZuZu Jpaddon (talk) 18:56, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Closed -- Butterkity has been banned indefinitely for ranting in the chat and on this thread (which can be seen in the history if necessary). ʞooɔ 19:26, February 3, 2013 (UTC)